Flat Earth

[DampDevil]

Calling it 'heliocentric software' is disingenuous -- unless you've personally navigated the supposed globe with the app open to confirm so. Anyone who studies the stars and other objects can correctly map it to an app, but that doesn't confirm the shape of the realm. All of what you're seeing could easily be mapped in a dome, crater, or whatever. You don't know what we do or do not orbit because you've never left this realm.

Denial of round earth doesn't mean we know everything. It's the opposite. We know the heliocentric model is full of inconsistencies and so we think, examine, and discuss until new theories and new evidence comes about. You know as little as we do.

Well, of course. The app would not need a globe to work, assuming everything else is correct. Things I myself can validate in the night sky. thio, it woulöd still be heliocentric, since that only means the sun is in the middle.
I find it kind of hard to discuss the flat earth without coming across like a total dick. Because I kind of think it is a huge stretch to think we live on a pancake or a "cosmic egg" while every other body in the solar system is spherical. Logic dictates we also live on a sphere and every ounce of evidence proves it. Flat earth has nothing. Lunar eclipses exist, you can watch one happen. No straight edges there.

 

[Worsaae]

Well, of course. The app would not need a globe to work, assuming everything else is correct. Things I myself can validate in the night sky. thio, it woulöd still be heliocentric, since that only means the sun is in the middle.
I find it kind of hard to discuss the flat earth without coming across like a total dick. Because I kind of think it is a huge stretch to think we live on a pancake or a "cosmic egg" while every other body in the solar system is spherical. Logic dictates we also live on a sphere and every ounce of evidence proves it. Flat earth has nothing. Lunar eclipses exist, you can watch one happen. No straight edges there.

We have a flat earth thread here:
Flat Earth

You will see that I am not in favor of flat earth myself, but others are and they have valid arguments for their beliefs. You are also not qualified to discuss flat earth, so you might feel that you would come off as a total dick, but you shouldn't even have that discussion before you took the time to look into what the flat earth beliefs actually are.
This thread is not for the discussion of flat earth, so I suggest taking your questions into the other thread.

The best introduction is this video:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEaHjPF47_E

 

[Silent Bob]

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You seem to have captured an 'Orb' in this picture

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[Jd755]

The 8xdxd formula is also easy enough to do in your head.
8x2x2 = 32 inches.
Put a breadbox at the shoreline and try to photofraph it from the opposite bank, with your camera height also at the shoreline.
If the breadbox is not visible, you have proof of the globe.

Crack on then.

You seem to have captured an 'Orb' in this picture

It's just a rain drop. I was genuinely out in the rain on foot taking pretty pictures!

 

[grav]

Crack on?
How many times should we do simple math?

Of all the proofs of earth's plane-ness, this one is the easiest to ascertain.
We see too far.
I don't travel to New Orleans often. Whenever I do, I can see the city from 20 to 30 miles away, if the weather permits.

At home, I do the math, Google heights of buildings like the Superdome, and verify for myself that I witnessed a non-globe.

I've taken pictures, poor quality, have satisfied myself about geocentrism.
But I rely on dedicated researchers like Taboo Conspiracy to conduct more scientific analyses of long distance photographic evidence.

This is what confounds me about FE critics. They either ignore the evidence or defile logic with trivial matters.
Like the tv weatherman who said the impossi-ball picture of Chicago from across Lake Michigan was a mirage.

It truly boggles the mind.
I am reminded of the tribulations of Job, the biblical figure who was tested by God to verify Job's faith. His wife and children were killed, his life ruined. And, by God, Job still loved his Lord.

I say again, no scientist in his right mind really thinks earth is a wet spinning ball in a vacuum.
Posters here may agree with that assessment but have different theories about the true nature of reality.

Until I see evidence to the contrary, I will identify as a flatearther.
What say the rest of you?
p.s. I also think the flat earth is a figment of a computer sim-world program.

 

[Jd755]

But I rely on dedicated researchers like Taboo Conspiracy to conduct more scientific analyses of long distance photographic evidence.

Thanks. I'll leave it to the dedicated experts researchers too.
Edit to correct 'experts' to 'researchers'.

 

[DampDevil]

We have a flat earth thread here:
Flat Earth

You will see that I am not in favor of flat earth myself, but others are and they have valid arguments for their beliefs. You are also not qualified to discuss flat earth, so you might feel that you would come off as a total dick, but you shouldn't even have that discussion before you took the time to look into what the flat earth beliefs actually are.
This thread is not for the discussion of flat earth, so I suggest taking your questions into the other thread.

The best introduction is this video:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEaHjPF47_E

Consider lesson in respect and rules learned. ✌

 

[Worsaae]

Consider lesson in respect and rules learned. ✌

You're welcome. I hope you enjoyed the video.

 

[DampDevil]

You're welcome. I hope you enjoyed the video.

Yeah, I always find videos like these fascinating.
I have seen most of these proofs before and I too can understand why someone would believe in FE. Also, I see we are in the correct thread now. Sweet transition
Thing is, you can´t watch a video like this without looking up individual points and verify. A video like this wants you to believe. One must see both sides of the coin. Dubay sure would love to sell you his books.
Like last night.
I was looking at some old maps and decided to look up the kings portrayed on one of them. Trying to verify the dates and hence the map itself. Take nothing for granted, trust but verify even here on this forum. =)

 

[Lightseeker]

Yeah, I always find videos like these fascinating.
I have seen most of these proofs before and I too can understand why someone would believe in FE. Also, I see we are in the correct thread now. Sweet transition
Thing is, you can´t watch a video like this without looking up individual points and verify. A video like this wants you to believe. One must see both sides of the coin. Dubay sure would love to sell you his books.
Like last night.
I was looking at some old maps and decided to look up the kings portrayed on one of them. Trying to verify the dates and hence the map itself. Take nothing for granted, trust but verify even here on this forum. =)

Flat Earth isn't a profitable niche, at all. I doubt anyone is in it for the money. Not even Dubay.

 

[Sigian]

Magnetism is another area of the electric battery that we need to figure out.

Diamagnetics are an interesting read, levitating water, frogs, and mice in a magnetic field. One of those oddball aspects of science that was discovered then lost and rediscovered 50ish years later, odd that is.

I know you aren't a believer in the atom, but isn't it odd that the periodic table is laid out with fewest to most electrons, and seemingly those elements with little to none are lighter than air, than those with more.

Diamagnetics points out that everything is magnetic, no matter what, with a great enough magnetic field you could levitate a human, though no idea what side effects that may entail.

 

[grav]

Diamagnetics are an interesting read, levitating water, frogs, and mice in a magnetic field. One of those oddball aspects of science that was discovered then lost and rediscovered 50ish years later, odd that is.

I know you aren't a believer in the atom, but isn't it odd that the periodic table is laid out with fewest to most electrons, and seemingly those elements with little to none are lighter than air, than those with more.

Diamagnetics points out that everything is magnetic, no matter what, with a great enough magnetic field you could levitate a human, though no idea what side effects that may entail.

One of the best posts I've ever read. My username indicates my great interest in this hidden field of science. The recent slew of UFO sightings in the news may indeed be Nasa anti-grav technology. When the media hypes a topic like this, you should smell a freemason agenda (which I think will be a fake alien invasion).

Yes, I never took to the Atom, or the electron shell and the empty space between it and the nucleus. The periodic table is based on some unknown (to us) quality of dielecteicity. There are alternatives to the one we learned in school . . .

alternative periodic tables - Google zoeken

The aether (which, I think, is how Eric Dollard spells the ether) is a solid volume of electromagnetism. What we call our world is a closed system which generates energy. It's basically a salt water battery. And its metals and elements can be manipulated, as you intimate when you levitate a human. How? by altering the electromagnetic density of matter.

 

[Silent Bob]

Diamagnetics are an interesting read, levitating water, frogs, and mice in a magnetic field. One of those oddball aspects of science that was discovered then lost and rediscovered 50ish years later, odd that is.

I used to run a levitation experiment as part of our physics open days: we had a train track constructed of magnets, positioned so poles were alternate around the track. A small piece of super conductor material was cooled using liquid nitrogen to take its temperature below the level needed for zero resistance, then it would levitate and with a little push it would travel around the magnet train track. It would carry on until its temperaure increased, which wasn't long since we were at room temperature, then it would sink onto the track as it warmed. Lasted maybe 20 - 30 secs before it needed cooling again.

I used to use a gif of the levitating frog as part of the demo, the still shot is below. The next 2 pics show how the magnetic field bends around the super conductor when it is below the critical temperature. The final 2 pics show how the temperature affects resistance, and how this temperature is different for various materials. We need to find the materials which have this affect at, or near, room temperature - that would explain a lot!

 

[Sigian]

Thank you, I know I have posted quite a few things that go against the grain, but there are so many things that always seem lost to science and then rediscovered only to be lost again. Goudsmits observations about the electron spin always interested me personally.

I have always been one to question the current theories, especially since past scientists have gone against the grain themselves. Have studied physics quite a bit myself over the past 15 years, but not from your normal classroom setting. I do believe in atoms, just do not think they are formed the way mainstream would have us believe, the electron itself has undergone so many changes from an orbiting object to now an electron cloud that exists at all points at the same time. We channel this to create electricity using magnetics, and the AC motor basically reverses this process to power electric motors. The aether makes so much more sense in that it is everywhere at all times, passing through everything, and we have only found one way to harness its so we have been told. There is alot more to the world around us than we could ever imagine, and I believe Mr.Tesla himself knew of this.

But the sad truth of it is that we may never know beyond what we are fed as truths, unless it is figured out by someone who gives a damn to pass this information to everyone instead of wanting to make a buck off of proprietary knowledge.

Maybe a bad quote, but the truth us out there, just need to keep pressing the right button to get that truth to everyone. While I may not agree with certain aspects of models describing how things work, I would rather know for sure, than to just speculate. That is one of the biggest reasons that I originally started following KDs SH and now follow this new iteration of it.

May the truth be uncovered some day, so that this world can be made a better place for us all, not just those that have the wealth and power to deem what truths/lies should be common knowledge.

 

[FarewellAngelina]

This is a video with interesting info about frozen oxygen - am assuming that's super cooled. Linked to the ice wall and the dome possibly.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bebl31yOO0

 

[Sigian]

On a side note, have been really into rotating magnetic fields lately. Toroidal generators, how particles can become ionized losing electrons, such as running current thru aluminum foil so that it levitates. Dunno, we think as the air around us as just air, when it in fact is a sort of fluid containing molecules itself, maybe not as dense as water, but static electricity builds from friction between molecules, which can cause ionization, causing otherwise heavier molecules such at water vapor to rise and create storm clouds.

Sorry, just so much rattles through my head sometimes, it's almost as if they put the answers in front of us, but tell us a different story as to how they really work. Einstein was a good figurehead for that one...I mean cmon, relativity my ass. We have already proven the speed of light is variable to a degree, I've read documentation of using sound that can travel close to the speed of light, and pure thought itself is faster.

Ok, sorry, trying to stay inside the fringe here.

 

[Jd755]

History.
http://revue.elth.pub.ro/upload/292688art01Gerald.pdf

 

[grav]

My post disappeared? something about a security issue???


Do I need to copy and save before I hit post reply?
I will try to recollect my thoughts. Damn.

While there is plenty of information about the sun's light, I've never found much about the moon. What is its wavelength, its aether composition, or whatever the science reveals?
To me, the sun is an incandescent light bulb, while the moon is more like a fluorescent bulb, or one of the other types that are supposed to use less energy or emit less heat -- LED, CFL, plasma lava lamps, etc.

Nasa still pushes the crazy notion that the moon ball reflects sunlight, even lighting up completely during full moons, when the earth sits between the two objects. Ridiculous!
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Strange Moonlight | Science Mission Directorate

........ a few puzzling things:


1. Moonlight steals color from whatever it touches. Regard a rose. In full moonlight, the flower is brightly lit and even casts a shadow, but the red is gone, replaced by shades of gray. In fact, the whole landscape is that way. It's a bit like seeing the world through an old black and white TV set.


"Moon gardens" turn this 1950s-quality of moonlight to advantage. White or silver flowers that bloom at night are both fragrant and vivid beneath a full moon. Favorites include Four-O'clocks, Moonflower Vines, Angel's Trumpets—but seldom red roses.

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2. If you stare at the gray landscape long enough, it turns blue. The best place to see this effect, called the "blueshift" or "Purkinje shift" after the 19th century scientist Johannes Purkinje who first described it, is in the countryside far from artificial lights. As your eyes become maximally dark adapted, the blue appears. Film producers often put a blue filter over the lens when filming night scenes to create a more natural feel, and artists add blue to paintings of nightscapes for the same reason. Yet if you look up at the full moon, it is certainly not blue. (Note: Fine ash from volcanoes or forest fires can turn moons blue, but that's another story.)


3. Moonlight won't let you read. Open a book beneath the full moon. At first glance, the page seems bright enough. Yet when you try to make out the words, you can't. Moreover, if you stare too long at a word it might fade away. Moonlight not only blurs your vision but also makes a little blind spot. (Another note: As with all things human, there are exceptions. Some people have extra-sensitive cones or an extra helping of rods that do allow them to read in the brightest moonlight.)


This is all very strange. Moonlight, remember, is no more exotic than sunlight reflected from the dusty surface of the moon. The only difference is intensity: Moonlight is about 400,000 times fainter than direct sunlight.

 

[Silent Bob]

After my post above about levitation this video popped up on my you tube recomended list today, very interesting - I've nevered heard of the concept of AC Gravity before, but hey why not as it is analgous with AC electricity.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS_rEzKdzBA


As an aside, this comment from the above video gave me a chuckle

'I started reading a book on antigravity and I couldn't put it down'

 

[grav]

Whatsup with all the recent UFO sightings in the news, Silent Bob?
Though I think aliens are real, these mysterious antigrav spaceships are most likely Illuminati devices. Gravity is a bs force, as the levitation scientists know. Apparently, density of matter can be manipulated through several means.
Not new technology either, possibly "ancient " knowledge. Same ol' occulted business as usual, that for which this forum is named.

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