Flat Earth

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I like the Thunderbolts thinkers because the aether makes a helluva lot more sense than the atom theory. I also like @Akanah's biology-earth-embryo idea because it fits into the digital Gaia program -- knowledge which gnostics accessed in the Akasha. This process is achieved when the practitioner's pineal gland reaches through the aether to touch the dome.

As for Velikovsky, I appreciate his research into Coherent Catastrophism via comets.
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The Great Authority has spoken:

Immanuel Velikovsky - Wikipedia​

en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › Immanuel_...

Velikovsky pointed to alleged concordances in the accounts of many cultures, and proposed that they referred to the same real events. For instance, the memory ...
s work is frequently cited as a canonical example of pseudoscience and has been used as an example of the demarcation problem.[2]

Immanuel Velikovsky
Immanuel Velikovsky at the 1974 American Association for the Advancement of Science Conference in San Francisco
Born	10 June 1895 Vitebsk, Russian Empire (in present-day Belarus)
Died	17 November 1979 (aged 84) Princeton, New Jersey
Alma mater	Moscow State University

His books use comparative mythology and ancient literary sources (including the Old Testament) to argue that Earth suffered catastrophic close contacts with other planets (principally Venus and Mars) in ancient history. In positioning Velikovsky among catastrophists including Hans Bellamy, Ignatius Donnelly, and Johann Gottlieb Radlof [de],[3] the British astronomers Victor Clube and Bill Napier noted "... Velikovsky is not so much the first of the new catastrophists ...; he is the last in a line of traditional catastrophists going back to mediaeval times and probably earlier."[4] Velikovsky argued that electromagnetic effects play an important role in celestial mechanics. He also proposed a revised chronology for ancient Egypt, Greece, Israel, and other cultures of the ancient Near East. The revised chronology aimed at explaining the so-called "dark age" of the eastern Mediterranean (c. 1100–750 BC) and reconciling biblical history with mainstream archaeology and Egyptian chronology.

 

[Sigian]

So hey, not trying to be too off topic, but I have a job next week at the Grand Lodge in MD, built in 1817 I believe, doing some installs, quite the different location from restaurants/supermarkets and fast food chains....anything I should be on the look out for?

Sorry, not to derail, just an interesting location to say the least. Finally leaving NC/SC (been here too long) to MD then PA then TN by the end of August. Besides Virginia Tech, it's quite a different clientele than I am used to.

 

[Sigian]

Oh sorry forgot to put the full name, but yes that one in Cockeysville. Not one of the little brick buildings I see in every little town, it's pretty damn big.

 

[space966]

In Bible: Melachim II - II Kings - Chapter 7.2:
And the king's officer upon whose hand he would lean, answered the man of God, and said,
"Behold, if the Lord makes windows in the sky, will this thing come about?"
And he said, "Behold, you will see with your own eyes, but you shall not eat therefrom."

What in modern times we perceive as time zones, may be windows in the sky.
Many things depend on point of perception.
Let's say, you have friend on the moon & talk on the phone with him/her.
You ask: what form is moon? Your friend answers: flat.
You say: round.
Because you see more & from perspective.

 

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Listen to all voices. Trust no one.
I say that a lot. But I often fail to check on sites that have ideas that may be pertinent to the earth's structure.

Flat Earth is a large part of the Whole Deception -- including but not limited to fake science, fake history, fake medicine, fake politics, fake news, fake entertainment.

Lots of fake ct on the internet too. Or at least mistaken ct.
I mentioned Nancy Lieder jokingly on Loop yesterday in a guest post. If you never heard of her, you should remedy that lack and occasionally check out her weekly newsletter,
ZetaTalk Newsletter

I rarely do, but my bad, I should read it more often. She of Nibiru fear porn fame, Nancy at least does a good job rounding up earth changes and events that might actually mean something.
This week she looks at earthquakes, the New Madrid Fault (which flooded the Mississippi River valley many years ago), and solar activity. She's not a bad writer, nor is she completely delusional. But. Little green men talk to her and she frets over Nibiru as the Wormwood destroyer.
Ah, Nibiru. Crazy ct, right? No. It is a phenomenon in the dome, in my opinion. A second sun, like a spare light bulb in your closet for when the old one burns out.

My guess, which I have stated before, is that earth is a saltwater battery which powers the dome which turns overhead. At irregular intervals, the clockwork mechanism shorts out and electrical discharges disrupt the dome and the earth itself. Earthquakes happen when (maybe) the sun's energy sputters. Comets insult the earth with plasma when the sun undergoes changes in frequency and vibration, possibly because it is getting old.
Eric Dollard, q.v., who studies the sun, says it is hollow, a capacitor/transformer, and dying.

What a pity we don't learn real science in our indoctrination camps (schools).


View: https://youtu.be/gpAFVV-WxrM

 

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@sandokhan posted an excellent comment on his thread.
It jibes with a pet theory of mine. Here is my response to it. . . . . .

hmm. Excellent post. Links?

I think you know how I think comets are the agents of resets of world ages, as well as plagues on mankind.

The Black Death, for example, was hardly a pandemic caused by fleas on rats. It has been linked to the terrible Comet Negra in 1347.

https://georgebishopjr.com/2013/06/19/th...QF6BAgHEAI

I will follow up on this idea in another post.
I am not at all saying that Covid is a real disease. But influenza is. And other illnesses which seem to come out of nowhere. Could they be microorganisms that drop from cometary debris?

Let's drag Shakespeare, whoever he really was, back onto the stage.
"When beggars die there are no comets seen; the heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes.
Julius Caesar, II, 3. 31.

hmm, the heavens may blaze diseases.

 

[Starman]

@sandokhan posted an excellent comment on his thread.
It jibes with a pet theory of mine. Here is my response to it. . . . . .

hmm. Excellent post. Links?

I think you know how I think comets are the agents of resets of world ages, as well as plagues on mankind.

The Black Death, for example, was hardly a pandemic caused by fleas on rats. It has been linked to the terrible Comet Negra in 1347.

https://georgebishopjr.com/2013/06/19/th...QF6BAgHEAI

I will follow up on this idea in another post.
I am not at all saying that Covid is a real disease. But influenza is. And other illnesses which seem to come out of nowhere. Could they be microorganisms that drop from cometary debris?

Let's drag Shakespeare, whoever he really was, back onto the stage.
"When beggars die there are no comets seen; the heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes.
Julius Caesar, II, 3. 31.

hmm, the heavens may blaze diseases.

In one of his videos, Ewaranon conjectured that comets are not bolides, but are punctures in the firmament, with the visible tail as a piercing of light. He showed a time lapse of the stars rotating around the pole star and the 'comet' tail rotating in concert with the movement of the stars. One would think that a comet trajectory would have its own path and not hang there in the sky following the uniform star paths.

In the same vein of thinking, meteorites fallen to the earth are remnants of the rocky firmament. Perhaps a hole lets in some kind of microorganism nasties that the firmament normally protects us from. Does the hole heal itself, otherwise you'd think the light through the hole would remain?

Whatever the reality, I agree that 'cometary' events do presage a biological downturn for human life. Maybe TPTB knows this is in store for us and wants to get rid of people slowly now, instead of all at once later when it will be too difficult to hold onto power if there is too big of a quick die-off.

 

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I'm thinking about going to my niece's house for a day, just to use her high speed connection so that I can finish watching Ewaranon.
I have been fascinated by comets for many years. Any fresh information would make my day!

To continue the gist of my earlier post about comets and Covid, I have found this.

Actually, there is a goodly amount of internet info about "space" causing diseases. The book article below also mentions SARS, which is the parent of Covid.
The article examines pathogens as the culprits.

ok, seems possible, but we've also seen Electric Universe theories that blame illnesses on harmful ranges in the electromagnetic spectrum. Microwaves in countertop ovens and cell phones, for example, are harmful. Uranium is not, according to some nuclear engineers like Galen Winsor.
7.83 Hz, the Schumann Resonance, is often called earth's heartbeat. It is also our natural frequency which, when disturbed by the environment, throws our biology off balance.

Flatearthers think that "space" is the region between us and the dome. The dome itself is, I'm guessing, an inert glasslike material. It rotates in reaction to an energy production of earth's saltwater and metals. Mount Meru, at the North Pole, has long been proposed as the magnetic pole which transmits the power upward.
Electric systems are unpredictable. When there is a disturbance in the force, bad stuff happens.
Literature, even sci-fi fictions, give us many clues to the truth.
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Anyway, here is one of several sources about disease and/or death from above.

Diseases from Space - Wikipedia

Diseases from Space is a book published in 1979 that was authored by astronomers Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe, where they propose that many of the most common diseases which afflict humanity, such as influenza, the common cold and whooping cough, have their origins in extraterrestrial sources. The two authors argue the case for outer space being the main source for these pathogens- or at least their causative agents.^[1][2][3]




Diseases From Space
AuthorChandra Wickramasinghe, Fred HoyleCountryUnited KingdomLanguageEnglishGenreSpace medicinePublished1979ISBN978-0060119379LC ClassRC1137The claim connecting terrestrial disease and extraterrestrial pathogens was rejected by the scientific community.
Contents

Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe spent over 20 years investigating the nature and composition of interstellar dust. Though many hypotheses regarding this dust had been postulated by various astronomers since the middle of the 19th century, all were found to be wanting as and when new data on the gas and dust clouds became available. Chandra Wickramasinghe proposed the existence of polymeric composition based on the molecule formaldehyde (H₂CO).^[4]

In 1974 Wickramasinghe first proposed the hypothesis that some dust in interstellar space was largely organic (containing carbon and nitrogen),^[5][6] and followed this up with other research confirming the hypothesis.^[7] Wickramasinghe also proposed and confirmed the existence of polymeric compounds based on the molecule formaldehyde (H₂CO).^[4] Fred Hoyle and Wickramasinghe later proposed the identification of bicyclic aromatic compounds from an analysis of the ultraviolet extinction absorption at 2175A.,^[8] thus demonstrating the existence of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon molecules in space.
Hoyle and Wickramasinghe went further and speculated that the overall spectroscopic data of cosmic dust and gas clouds also matched those for desiccated bacteria. This led them to conclude that diseases such as influenza and the common cold are incident from space and fall upon the Earth in what they term "pathogenic patches." Hoyle and Wickramasinghe viewed the process of evolution in a manner at variance with the standard Darwinian model. They speculated that genetic material in the form of incoming pathogens from the cosmos provided the mechanism for driving the evolutionary engine.^[1][9] Hoyle died in 2001, and Wickramasinghe still advocates for these views and beliefs.
Scientific consensusEdit
The claim connecting terrestrial disease and extraterrestrial pathogens was rejected and dismissed by the scientific community.^[10] On 24 May 2003 The Lancet journal published a letter from Wickramasinghe,^[11] jointly signed by Milton Wainwright and Jayant Narlikar, in which they speculate that the virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) could be extraterrestrial in origin instead of originating from chickens.

 

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In one of his videos, Ewaranon conjectured that comets are not bolides, but are punctures in the firmament, with the visible tail as a piercing of light. He showed a time lapse of the stars rotating around the pole star and the 'comet' tail rotating in concert with the movement of the stars. One would think that a comet trajectory would have its own path and not hang there in the sky following the uniform star paths.

I watched that episode. The comet in his video, maybe Encke, looked like a bad scratch in a windshield. Not a crack that would let water in, but enough to let light come through. Encke returns every 3 years or so.
Why don't we see all the comets all the time? Something to do with multiple layers of the dome or the way light powers the stars and other celestial objects?

 

[The Green Dragon]

I am new to this forum and don't see an active thread on flat earth. Is there any interest in the topic?
SH's format is quite impressive. And imposing, to the point that navigating it is tricky for a simple mind like mine. Generic forums have become gross mockeries of their original designs, and so I am looking for a new home where I may spout my heresies, primarily the most basic hidden truth upon which all other distorted truths are based. The Infinite Plane of the Electric Universe.

My overall guesstimate of reality is a computer program which is crashed and rebooted every 300 years or so.

The gnostics may have had insights about our true history, starting with creation by an aeon named Sophia.
Who, if memory holds, became Gaia "in the flesh" so to speak.
I also respect ancient "myths" like that of Pyrrha and Deucalion, who threw rocks over their shoulders to repopulate the world after the Deluge. Rocks growing into organic beings? And vice versa. Nope, human beings are not imaginative enough to come up with such a crazy conspiracy theory.

Here is something for you to have a look at.

 

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Here is something for you to have a look at.

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You weren't just whistling Dixie whan you said there was somethimg to look at.

And as much as you did include in that list, there are many other globe faults that we have never touched on in this thread.

The biblical references may bother some people. Not me, though I am an atheist Christian who takes the Old Testament as an imperfect book of history.
Thanks.

 

[Citezenship]

Anyone else spot anything wrong with this pic???

Source. r/interestingasfuck - The power lines over Lake Pontchartrain in Louisiana illustrate very well that Earth is not flat

 

[Jd755]

Anyone else spot anything wrong with this pic???

No seagulls?

 

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Anyone else spot anything wrong with this pic???

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Source. r/interestingasfuck - The power lines over Lake Pontchartrain in Louisiana illustrate very well that Earth is not flat

Oh, just stop pulling Auntie grav's leg.

I've seen those power lines many times over the years driving between LaPlace and New Orlens.
Gee whiz, I still get car sick sometimes. That wacky vertical curve would've made me dizzy and giddy. No horizontal curve shows up.
The curve is of course an optical ilusion of the wide angle lens. Even if the globe curved 8 inches per mile squared, it would not look like that roller coaster ride.

I have observed, on the other hand, the Superdome in the distance as Mr. grav was drivng south over the spillway. I even did the math once. I tried to get the mile marker out of LaPlace, to find the distance to the Big Easy, now a vax-mandate city, plus the height of the building. From memory now, so don't quote me, but there should have been no way I could see rhe Superdome on a clear day at that distance.

 

[Citezenship]

Oh, just stop pulling Auntie grav's leg.

I've seen those power lines many times over the years driving between LaPlace and New Orlens.
Gee whiz, I still get car sick sometimes. That wacky vertical curve would've made me dizzy and giddy. No horizontal curve shows up.
The curve is of course an optical ilusion of the wide angle lens. Even if the globe curved 8 inches per mile squared, it would not look like that roller coaster ride.

I have observed, on the other hand, the Superdome in the distance as Mr. grav was drivng south over the spillway. I even did the math once. I tried to get the mile marker out of LaPlace, to find the distance to the Big Easy, now a vax-mandate city, plus the height of the building. From memory now, so don't quote me, but there should have been no way I could see rhe Superdome on a clear day at that distance.

Yes clearly a fake to me,

The power lines are level yet the sea is not.

No seagulls?

Haha, good spot.

 

[Wil-I-am]

Those power lines look about as real as elon musk's roadster in fake space.

 

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As long as we're being absurd . . .

Is our world any more absurd than it used to be? Or are some of us finally realizing that it's always been a dog and pony show.

Constant wars, rigged politics, fake history, fake medicine, fake science., fake food, fake everything.
I rememer an old Bugs Bunny, or Daffy Duck, cartoon where rockets landed right-side up on the moon.
And then. And then. By golly, they recreated that cartoon right smack dab here - - out in the open - -
somewhere where you weren't invited

How do you like the shadows of the rockets? nice touch, eh?

 

[Citezenship]

Is our world any more absurd than it used to be? Or are some of us finally realizing that it's always been a dog and pony show.

I figured this a long time ago, or I should say my body always knew but my mind had been taught not to listen, took me a little while to tune back in, which required tuning out.

 

[Starman]

As long as we're being absurd . . .

Is our world any more absurd than it used to be? Or are some of us finally realizing that it's always been a dog and pony show.

Constant wars, rigged politics, fake history, fake medicine, fake science., fake food, fake everything.
I rememer an old Bugs Bunny, or Daffy Duck, cartoon where rockets landed right-side up on the moon.
And then. And then. By golly, they recreated that cartoon right smack dab here - - out in the open - -
somewhere where you weren't invited

How do you like the shadows of the rockets? nice touch, eh?

I think our world today is way more absurd than it used to be. There's more 'science' to fiddle with, more gadgets and tools to dazzle the masses. We've lost our common sense and it's been replaced with technobabble.

Granted, there were different religious narratives holding sway in the past, and many were equally suspect as 'scientism.'

The problem now is that there is a cult of intellectualism embedded in a literate society that easily fools itself with its own hubris. We've dug a deeper hole for ourselves and can't get out.

 

[Wil-I-am]

Pardon my absurd humor. Since we know the controllers have tried to penetrate the firmament in the past with fishbowl glass ceiling stuff; what if they blew a hole through with a directed energy weapon in the recent past. Since water is on the outside, a great deluge poured through the hole causing the mudflood and then resealed itself due to the firmament shell having self healing properties. Could the great rift in the Milky Way be the sealed hole?