Flat Earth

[nineholes]

I'm to the point now that I view FE as a sub-set of the destruction of the Tartarian Empire. Once again, I will scribble down my impressions of Flat Earth Tartaria.

I'd really like to see what y'all think, your own conclusions and guesses.

To hide all the Tartaria stuff they had to delete the timelogs and everything else ( emotional imprints, holographic fields, etc., ) from the collective unconscious. Written history and facts are easy to prove or disprove. Our power of creativity, which imho powers this construct can only be tempered with to a certain degree, otherwise the weil lifts up. So fragments of Tartarian memory from the unconscious surfaced in a form of art - Steampunk. That's my guess. There are a million ways to get lost or find some kind of "truth" and make a conclusion. Think about the amount of energy you put into it. It just makes it more solid. There is no truth here. In this world the majority of people think in associations and they are sleepwalking through life, step by step. They are probably awake to some degree for a few minutes in a lifetime. The evil ones, the controllers, the PTB or whatever you wanna call them think in absolutes, I am sure you observed the effects of that in your daily life. The very few who have some spiritual powers and serving a perceived greater good with best intentions can never convey a conceivable wisdom without resorting to use paradoxes. Using metaphors is a step taken to avoid running into the eventual paradox. So as you can see, the game is fixed and by finding out the ways how it's fixed will not get somebody out of it. That would be my "conclusion". I guess my previous post should have started sometime after this conclusion. Sorry about that and I hope I did not go too far

 

[otl2021]

Let's not get too far from the thread topic, to comply with SH policy's.
We all pretty much agree that reality is a simulation, that a computer code has written our history and everything else.

This whole thread is off topic. And I, for one, do not agree with the idea that reality is a simulation, nor that a computer code has written our history and everything else.
LOL

This is the most censored topic, period. It is because when this truth gets free, we change everything. From our schools to everything else that is tied into these lies... it all changes.

Even here, there's a thread asking if FE is a psyop? I went on there to show everyone that, no, their explosion that created everything inside their imagined vacuum space is the psyop.

I was responded to by a mod who stated:

We already have a thread on FE found here Flat Earth

Please keep all pro FE related content there, this thread is a discussion revolving around the FE movement as a psy-op (which, even if there is some merit to the arguments for FE, can still be a psyop nonetheless). Any further off topic posts in here may be removed or the thread may be locked.

But, this isn't even a flat earth thread! And how can a thread be started, requesting specific opinions, yet only allow for one side of the story?

Earth can not be a plane and psyop... sorry.

That said, I guess I'll throw my posts over here so folks can judge for themselves whether the Earth curves anywhere near what they say and whether water becomes convex on its surface.

Has there been a FE thread here that focused specifically on the evidence?

Sorry for my last attempt. Please allow me to try again.


That is the psyop!

How do I know this?

The above gif is from a video I took some months back. You can see the original here:

View: https://youtu.be/R4SoWUyZyz0


I have taken many of these. I have spent the last few summers camping on beautiful lakes and oceans, and not once have I been able to capture a boat going over a horizon.

The confusion stems from our misunderstanding of how we see; it's about perspective, convergence and vanishing points.

The horizon, it turns out, is not a physical thing as modern astronomy claims that it must be.

In the above video, my camera was about one foot above the water at the beach. You can see the waves coming in, just under my lens.

Modern astronomy, nasa, etc., have locked themselves into us living on something very close to spherical, but more importantly, sea level (not curve) must be the claimed 3,959 miles from the center of our rock. If that is falsified, the entirety of heliocentrism dies instantly.

And because we are told what our radius must be, we can determine, thanks to old Pythagoras, EXACTLY where that horizon MUST BE, so far as we know the height of the observer/camera.

In my example above, the camera is one foot above the water. This places the horizon at exactly 1.2 miles. But, for the sake of argument, let's go to 1.5 feet above the water. In this case, the horizon must be exactly at a distance of 1.5 miles. And this means that after 1.5 miles, everything will begin to disappear because there is now a physical barrier between the object and the observer.

The boat we see is at least 4 miles out according to locals and then confirmed with google maps. At this distance, to make matters worse for the liars, the entire boat should be hidden behind over ten feet of a physical barrier. And yet we still see the horizon beyond it all.

If anyone wants to check the math, have at it, but this is their own math:

I hope that made sense.

Peace

 

[NigeWz]

This whole thread is off topic. And I, for one, do not agree with the idea that reality is a simulation, nor that a computer code has written our history and everything else.
LOL

This is the most censored topic, period. It is because when this truth gets free, we change everything. From our schools to everything else that is tied into these lies... it all changes.

Even here, there's a thread asking if FE is a psyop? I went on there to show everyone that, no, their explosion that created everything inside their imagined vacuum space is the psyop.

I was responded to by a mod who stated:


But, this isn't even a flat earth thread! And how can a thread be started, requesting specific opinions, yet only allow for one side of the story?

Earth can not be a plane and psyop... sorry.

That said, I guess I'll throw my posts over here so folks can judge for themselves whether the Earth curves anywhere near what they say and whether water becomes convex on its surface.

Has there been a FE thread here that focused specifically on the evidence?

Not only is this realm a simulation, it's provably so. Pop over to 'Decode Your Reality' YT channel, and watch 'Prison Planet Decoded'

 

[nineholes]

I tried googling the two numbers 2178 and 8712 adding ‘bible’ : the first number came up as the Song of Solomon (in gematria?) and the reversed number came up as the denial of Christ (in a bible theme dictionary). May well be a coincidence but who knows?

And Bagh (2178) means God in Persian as in the city Baghdad which means given (dad) by god.

When you do the calculations starting with 2178 and deduct the reflection or the opposite of that number, the sequence is as follows : 2178, 8712, -6534, -2178, 6534, 4356, 2178
All numbers collapse the zero when the holographic reflection or opposite is deducted from them. Except 2178. As you can see it folds back into itself and forms an eternal loop.
What I discovered is that there are numbers that also do not collapse to zero because in the process of deduction they run into those seven numbers I described above. If you do it with 4510 it will run into 4356 and will fall into the eternal loop. If we could see the others numbers connected to that sequence the same way as 4510 does, that would allow us to try to construct a geometric pattern and look at the abstract expressed on a piece of paper. That would be my first guess, what would happen to your mind when you look at a pattern like that. If that doesn't work I would do it in 3D and stand in it. It's a mind-soul-DNA game. Trying to rationalize it by adding everyday meaning to those numbers would be more like solving a crossword or a puzzle where the solution would only leed to another crossword or puzzle. You cannot solve a crossword that YOU are creating constantly at every second of your life. But you can stop playing and look at it.

I am the sole point of perception in my reality.

True. When you become what you perceive, including your thoughts and the voices in your head I would say the egg has fully hatched. If you would want to be an egg again in this life, you'd have to experience just perception and nothing else. A kind of death so to speak and be reborn again, in a new way - for if you do that in one life time it cannot be the same for the second time.

 

[Jd755]

True. When you become what you perceive, including your thoughts and the voices in your head I would say the egg has fully hatched. If you would want to be an egg again in this life, you'd have to experience just perception and nothing else. A kind of death so to speak and be reborn again, in a new way - for if you do that in one life time it cannot be the same for the second time.

You seem to have missed the point

I don't know what it is where it is why it is or anything else about it.

Or are you describing your own beliefs there?

Has there been a FE thread here that focused specifically on the evidence?

Oh I don't know you could use the site search. Toolbar top of your screen, the button is on the right hand side and bears the word "search". Don't be lazy.
If you don't find one and you have "the evidence" of whatever shape the earth is or why it needs to have one then start your own thread and lay out your evidence and research and any testing you have done to arrive at your position of knowing what shape the earth is.

Edit to add
I just remembered I have already done the search and posted the links the search threw up back up the thread a fair aways. Perhaps going to the op and reading through the whole thread from there would be a good start point to find it.


Second edit to add this.

Watch the video I mentioned (How to Decode Yourself. The YT channel is 'Decode Your Reality') and go the full distance. You'll be amazed, bro.

I watched and listened to decode the reality and then did some digging into the bloke doing the speaking.
I spent a whole quarter hour looking into the name behind the Decode Your Reality Yuotube channel which was created in 2018.
This is what I found.

https://www.youtube.com/c/DecodeYourReality/about

Which led me to this;

Cosmic Sugar – BECOME A BETTER YOU

Which contains this;

I personally believe that whatever created this reality creates through us. Because of this notion, the Artificial Intelligence mankind is and has been building through computers and technology is an extension of the Creator of this reality. The Creator of this reality would own and operate the Artificial Intelligence. What makes this Intelligence ‘Artificial’ is because it was created by Human Beings. Yet since Human Beings are already scripted into the software of Life, whatever we create was designed by the Creator of this reality.

He believes.

I personally believe that whatever created this reality creates through us.

He has decoded his reality and he BELIEVES.

Moving on he has a linkedin profile

https://www.linkedin.com/in/logan-jayson-piette-b891a980

Which contains this;

LOGAN JAYSON PIETTE
Meta-Physician at BrainBodySoul
Los Angeles Metropolitan Area
242 connections

Which led to this;

Life-Coding – Brain Body Soul

And for just $899 you will get "The Keys to Your Kingdom"

Which led to this;

Login • Instagram

Logan Jayson Piette
Custom made Art Design meets Philosophical Quotations.
Freelance designer ♡ Graphic Designer | Editor

So he tells you how to decode your programmed life on the youtube and flogs the keys for big bucks off of youtube.
At least uk_quanon and his very long video series he made to "wake his family up" didn't attempt to flog anything to anyone.

Another edit to add.
If this is the same chap here is his early youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnZmeml9dAph-7KdK4qNMPg/videos

 

[NigeWz]

You seem to have missed the point


Or are you describing your own beliefs there?


Oh I don't know you could use the site search. Toolbar top of your screen, the button is on the right hand side and bears the word "search". Don't be lazy.
If you don't find one and you have "the evidence" of whatever shape the earth is or why it needs to have one then start your own thread and lay out your evidence and research and any testing you have done to arrive at your position of knowing what shape the earth is.

Edit to add
I just remembered I have already done the search and posted the links the search threw up back up the thread a fair aways. Perhaps going to the op and reading through the whole thread from there would be a good start point to find it.


Second edit to add this.

I watched and listened to decode the reality and then did some digging into the bloke doing the speaking.
I spent a whole quarter hour looking into the name behind the Decode Your Reality Yuotube channel which was created in 2018.
This is what I found.

https://www.youtube.com/c/DecodeYourReality/about

Which led me to this;

Cosmic Sugar – BECOME A BETTER YOU

Which contains this;



He believes.



He has decoded his reality and he BELIEVES.

Moving on he has a linkedin profile

https://www.linkedin.com/in/logan-jayson-piette-b891a980

Which contains this;



Which led to this;

Life-Coding – Brain Body Soul

And for just $899 you will get "The Keys to Your Kingdom"

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Which led to this;

Login • Instagram



So he tells you how to decode your programmed life on the youtube and flogs the keys for big bucks off of youtube.
At least uk_quanon and his very long video series he made to "wake his family up" didn't attempt to flog anything to anyone.

I know Logan personally, and I tend not to make judgements on what people sell / don't sell. I totally agree with you regarding Ewaranon, but maybe he has a regular job, lol? If people want to pay $899 for something, then that is their business. I guess if they don't feel they are getting value for money, then they can take that up with him. I spend countless hours researching and making presentations for my YT channel, and I am not interested in selling / monetizing simply because I have a 'job' that provides me income. If that wasn't the case then I guess I would have to look at other ways of finding $$. I take your point though, and thanks for the response / links.

 

[Jd755]

So thanks to Logan Jayson Piette and Nigewz I found the document linked below and include the screenshot and yes it is pertient to flat earth so certain parties will be pleased about that and yes it is mathematics which may be doubly pleasing to some so here is the short journey I took. Twenty five minutes or so this time.

Logan features a lot of stuff from a chap called Santos Bonnacci. He came to my attention donkeys years ago through my journey we are told is life.
Here is Santo's youtube channel; https://www.youtube.com/c/MrAstrotheology_Universal_Truth_School/community

Which I found through his website; Welcome to the Universal Truth School Website of Santos Bonacci | Universal Truth School

Here is the podcast he did on Bitchute;
View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/fbvqFsKD85He/


And in the comments on that podcast there I found this link https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88104main_H-1391.pdf

From which I downloaded the pdf and shot for the conclusion because I have had more days than are still to come and am not fluent in mathematics.

 

[grav]

trismegistus said:
We already have a thread on FE found here Flat Earth

Please keep all pro FE related content there, this thread is a discussion revolving around the FE movement as a psy-op (which, even if there is some merit to the arguments for FE, can still be a psyop nonetheless). Any further off topic posts in here may be removed or the thread may be locked.

....
Wait. what ?
Only one side of a debate is to be presented in a thread?

I realize that the sim world and Gematria code are not prima facie evidence of the obviously flat and motionless world.

But if they are pigeon-holed into separate threads, at least in my case, they would not get the attention they deserve. Yeah, it's a messy melange of material facts and curious speculation.

I appreciate admin's preference for threads that focus on clearly defined topics. Too much time spent on possibly related ideas may derail continuity or discourage some readers.

I myself prefer to talk about what we can observe and prove.
If posters want to do the numberolohy and symbology, okey dokey, but please tie them in to flatology.

 

[NigeWz]

So thanks to Logan Jayson Piette and Nigewz I found the document linked below and include the screenshot and yes it is pertient to flat earth so certain parties will be pleased about that and yes it is mathematics which may be doubly pleasing to some so here is the short journey I took. Twenty five minutes or so this time.

Logan features a lot of stuff from a chap called Santos Bonnacci. He came to my attention donkeys years ago through my journey we are told is life.
Here is Santo's youtube channel; https://www.youtube.com/c/MrAstrotheology_Universal_Truth_School/community

Which I found through his website; Welcome to the Universal Truth School Website of Santos Bonacci | Universal Truth School

View attachment 12744​

Here is the podcast he did on Bitchute;
View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/fbvqFsKD85He/


And in the comments on that podcast there I found this link https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88104main_H-1391.pdf

From which I downloaded the pdf and shot for the conclusion because I have had more days than are still to come and am not fluent in mathematics.

View attachment 12745​

Gonna all put it to 'bed' tomorrow. Will post link here as soon as it's uploaded to YT. It really is a 'night night'

 

[dreamtime]

Only one side of a debate is to be presented in a thread?

The thread is primarily about the meta-level (arguments for or against flat earth as psy-op), not about arguing for or against flat-earth specificially. this is simply about focusing on specific aspects in a given thread.

 

[nineholes]

You seem to have missed the point

I think I did. Sorry about that.

Or are you describing your own beliefs there?

I think I was. It doesn't belong really here.

 

[Jd755]

I think I was

Thank you.

 

[grav]

how do the tides work on the flat earth?

Mainstream science trots out tides as the result of the moon's gravity.
a silly feeemason invention, grabbity.

FE sees the moon as an electromagnetic effect in the dome.
Since we are composed of electricity and water, we react to the light of the moon (radiation).
Some people don't sleep well during the full moon. Wolves howl at it.
Moonlight is cooler than moonshade. Sunlght positive and healthy; moonlight is negative and unhealthy.

But what causes high tides?

Ocean Tides on Flat Earth Explained
Proof of the Close Flat Earth Sun

Water Is naturally diamagnetic, which means it repels a magnetic field. It creates a magnetic field in opposition to an externally applied magnetic field. The close sun is a positive electromagnetic energy repelling the water in the ocean, creating low tides and and the moon is a negative electromagnetic energy causing high tides. They work together like a perfectly designed machine.

 

[Jd755]

My follow up question is how do the tides work on the flat earth?

Care to share any explanation you have of how they do whatever it is you think they work do with any shape of earth?

Wait. what ?
Only one side of a debate is to be presented in a thread?

You appear to be mis-reading. This thread is the thread for the psyop discussion SH Archive - Is "Flat Earth" a PsyOp?
The one I am typing in is your flat earth theory exploration.
All sides of debate relevant to the OP topic are presented in the relevant thread, it seems to me.

Gonna all put it to 'bed' tomorrow. Will post link here as soon as it's uploaded to YT. It really is a 'night night'

Why youtube?
Is it easier to make a video than type what you have to say in this thread?

Edit to correct wordage.

 

[otl2021]

Not only is this realm a simulation, it's provably so. Pop over to 'Decode Your Reality' YT channel, and watch 'Prison Planet Decoded'

"Provably?"

I'm guessing we have different ideas of what is meant by 'proof.'

This is from the the thread asking is FE is a psyop. The one we are not allowed to discuss or share uncomfortable truths that come off as pro-FE and point to the actual psyop being the disney/masonic space fantasy.


View: https://youtu.be/7KYfodwnHAI


If you have yet to see this, it's a must see. Keep in mind, based on their math and the dimensions they have given us for our spinning-water-rock, that laser should have been hidden below nearly 180 feet of the Earth.

We see it plane as day. Direct hit, in fact!

Water does not, and never has, become convex on the outside of any object, let alone a spinning, orbiting, wobbling sphere.

Never even mind one that is traveling in multiple directions simultaneously, at speeds that exceed the speed that sound travels at by many, many times.

Heliocentrism, with spheres in orbit, that came from an explosion which in turn created humanity is THE PSYOP.

 

[grav]

Our world is demonstrably flat, as laser experiments prove.
Water seeks its own level, also proving that oceans must lie inside a plane.

Atmospheric gases prove that a dome above the surface prevents air from escaping into a false region called outer space. Air pressure is the mass of oxygen and other gases divided by the volume.

In other words, air must be confined in a container, like a tank of composed air to fill your car's tires.
The idea of a total vacuum called outer space defines logic and laws of physics.

We can't see the dome because of atmospheric interference.
But at night, telescopes and cameras with special lenses show can us the lights that are embedded in the dome. We may also see the Dark Rift, which looks like the seam of a welded plate.

The whole effect has the appearance of a curved ceiling which rotates around us. In this beautiful short video we see shooting stars, or meteors.
Like comets, they are probably light effects from pockmarks in the glasslike dome, similar to scratches and dings in a car's windshield.


View: https://youtu.be/tLC6Sy8f06s

 

[trismegistus]

In this beautiful short video we see shooting stars, or meteors.
Like comets, they are probably light effects from pockmarks in the glasslike dome, similar to scratches and dings in a car's windshield.

What then in your opinion are the objects in the sky that do manage to break into our sky and strike on earth?


View: https://youtu.be/fBLjB5qavxY

 

[Referent]

The laser experiments are very interesting and pretty convincing. One thing I wonder if any people have done as part of their laser experiments, would be to calculate an estimate of the beam "dispersion/spread" at the measured distance, then measure the amount of laser light at different locations within the "beam", to show that yes the beam is spreading, but that no the beam's spread (diameter at that distance) is not the reason for "seeing/recording" the laser source from the opposite end of the lake still.

I ask about this because, putting aside the sheer magnitude of Earth "height/curvature" to be overcome, the experiments might be misinterpreted by some as assuming that laser beams begin and end as focused dots. However, all amateur lasers I've ever read about or purchased do indeed have a "spread"; something like 10 inches at 100 yards, to make up an example.

Would it even be possible to sprinkle fine powder in the air at night, and use sensitive photography to show where the beam's "dot/diameter" ends at such great distances (miles across a lake)? If the shape and center of the beam at the "target" could be measured, that would be very interesting, too. The center ought to be slightly above the surface of the lake (or, rather, the height the laser is off the lake).

The point would be, again, putting aside visual observations with zoom lenses and just focusing on the laser experiments, to show that indeed the laser is traveling parallel to the lake. (People may attempt to explain even this away, but I don't buy an air or gravity based diffraction theory just yet.)

I've seen a lot of the laser experiment videos. Wondering if anyone can point to the most rigorously documented ones, which might account for the beam "spread" (other than simply saying that the sheer height of globe that the beam should be hidden below exceeds the beam spread at the distance).

 

[otl2021]

What then in your opinion are the objects in the sky that do manage to break into our sky and strike on earth?


View: https://youtu.be/fBLjB5qavxY

Break into our sky and strike on earth? Like, from outer space?

Have you video of that? I have never seen any.

They always look like what you showed, at almost identical angles. The similar trajectories and the fact that they attribute craters to their strikes with no legitimate debris, coupled with how they are always here within our atmosphere, makes me think military psyop.

The laser experiments are very interesting and pretty convincing. One thing I wonder if any people have done as part of their laser experiments, would be to calculate an estimate of the beam "dispersion/spread" at the measured distance, then measure the amount of laser light at different locations within the "beam", to show that yes the beam is spreading, but that no the beam's spread (diameter at that distance) is not the reason for "seeing/recording" the laser source from the opposite end of the lake still.

I ask about this because, putting aside the sheer magnitude of Earth "height/curvature" to be overcome, the experiments might be misinterpreted by some as assuming that laser beams begin and end as focused dots. However, all amateur lasers I've ever read about or purchased do indeed have a "spread"; something like 10 inches at 100 yards, to make up an example.

Would it even be possible to sprinkle fine powder in the air at night, and use sensitive photogrpahy to show where the beam's "dot/diameter" ends at such great distances (miles across a lake)? If the shape and center of the beam at the "target" could be measured, that would be very interesting, too. The center ought to be slightly above the surface of the lake (or, rather, the height the laser is off the lake).

The point would be, again, putting aside visual observations with zoom lenses and just focusing on the laser experiments, to show that indeed the laser is traveling parallel to the lake. (People may attempt to explain even this away, but I don't buy an air or gravity based diffraction theory just yet.)

I've seen a lot of the laser experiment videos. Wondering if anyone can point to the most rigorously documented ones, which might account for the beam "spread" (other than simply saying that the sheer height of globe that the beam should be hidden below exceeds the beam spread at the distance).

The spread does not matter if a physical, geometric barrier exists. Based on their own narrative, these photons are leaving at 'light speed' from just a few feet above the water and at least some are entering the camera on the other side positioned at very nearly the same exact height.

We are looking at drop heights of several story buildings!

As far as refraction, it is very real, but only very rarely does what the globe's narrative pushers claim. In fact refraction and poor visibility in general, along with how perspective works, is why we do not see even farther. It is also why it is so difficult to see how the sun and the moon actually 'set.' But, for another time.

Anyways, I have a feeling that these laser tests will be confirmed shortly and the FACT that water does not display convexity on its surface will be obvious for all to see...
11thousandfeet.com – 11 thousand feet

Force the Line

 

[trismegistus]

Break into our sky and strike on earth? Like, from outer space?

Have you video of that? I have never seen any.

They always look like what you showed, at almost identical angles. The similar trajectories and the fact that they attribute craters to their strikes with no legitimate debris, coupled with how they are always here within our atmosphere, makes me think military psyop.

Anecdotally - I have seen one of these “green fireballs” back in 2018. I watched it penetrate the clouds, so whatever it was it was fairly close to the ground. It went from small green streak to massive green ball (like a second sun), back down to a streak - almost like it pulsed in the sky.

I was in a car, so I didn’t hear anything. I also did not hear it land. I caught some local news reports and others did see it and catch it on various hunting or security cameras. No one figured out where it landed, if it did. There is hundreds and hundreds of miles of forest out here it could have landed in. Debris, if it exists, could take years of rigorous searching to find out here.

I don’t want to take this thread off topic, so let me bring it back.

What I saw was an object that was very close to earth. It doesn’t mean it came from space, or that it necessarily landed. What is the flat earth cosmological explanation for this phenomenon? Volcanic ejecta? Plasma? I know you mentioned that you believed they were scratches on a dome but unless the dome is right behind the cloud line (this happened at around 1600ft above sea level - clouds are relatively close to the ground here) I don’t see that as a solution.

Edit: this is a camera that caught the event I described above - although it only caught the “pulse” light, not the object itself. If I had to guess this camera was at least 20 miles away from where I saw it.


View: https://youtu.be/3xXrJIleW64