Flat Earth

[trismegistus]

Go learn some optics, here you can only convince uninformed people like yourself.


No, we can observe Mars properly when viewed with a telescope.

Here is an example:

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The photo was taken from Çanakkale using the Celestron Nexstar 8SE telescope and the Zwo Asi 120mm camera.

I believe this is the image @FarewellAngelina is referring to

 

[Safranek]

It seems clear that planets have a spherical shape, as evidenced by their phases.

From the phases of the Moon, we can observe that the Moon has a spherical shape and receives its light from a different light source, namely the Sun.

Yes it does seem so, but many of us already know that things are not always as they seem. In your second sentence you should also have added 'the Moon seems to have' accordingly.

While I sometimes enjoy reading people convincingly asserting their beliefs (when presenting new, solidly founded and convincing ideas concerning them) regarding the realm we all live in, I will stay on the fence on this issue as I prefer knowing as opposed to believing.

I'm open to all ideas, but what I have a problem with most of all regarding the concave and globe models is demonstrable evidence how we can 'stick' to either the inside or outside of a sphere. In the globe model, add motion. I find it strange that critical thinkers skip over this one glaring issue. (Please don't respond to this with a hypothetical explanation as we have enough of those already, wait until you have demonstrable proof.)

Its not entirely useless to talk about what things seem to be like as at least its a starting point but I find getting on-board with any of this difficult in the face of the obviously missing proofs.

What's wrong with not taking a side until you can actually assert knowledge and abstain from asserting a belief in a (presently) improvable theory?

 

[superstar]

spinning and super fast moving earth can explain the movements of stars which are trillions of miles away but cannot explain the movements of aeroplanes which are just few miles above it and we have to assume earth as stationary flat plane to explain their movements. Isn't that funny..

 

[Seeker]

There are far too many pages here for me to sit down and read them all, so I apologize if somebody has already raised this point - but I thought I would share an observation I made in another topic:

What actually happens when the sun sets?

 

[veeall]

Please say what latitude?

I have observed this kind of behaviour for many years, I even invested in camera gear to try and document it.

It often seems to me that the angle of the light/dark axis line across the Moon's face is not at the correct orientation compared to where the Sun is. In the case of this photo, the Sun has just set to the right, so you would expect that light/dark line to be tilting slightly right. Instead, it's tilting about five degrees left. (I'm not sure if the given photo is exactly what was seen, or just a representation).

I was observing the Sun and Moon a few days ago when there was a waxing half Moon and both of them were a similar height in the sky, maybe 30 degrees elevation. So the Sun was directly over to the right from the Moon. Approximately 90 degrees of azimuth between them. I would expect the Moon's bright/dark line to be more or less vertical under those conditions, but it was tilted to the left by 45 degrees.

The picture i posted was just an illustration, i have no picture of it. I saw the moon low at the horizon, with shadow of the moon phase pointing to about 23 o'clock, obviously sun should have been above the horizon for this configuration to have happened, but instead the sun was set few hours before and sky was pitch black. I observed this in Norway in Tjøtta (from vikipedya 65.8226°N 12.4284°E), probably around Christmas season.

I think any discrepancy from the accepted model should be more obvious whenever the moon is very low at the horison at night, the lighted part of both full moon and, even better, of the half moon should point to the light-source, if the sun is already set then it takes some mind-bending to explain it.

I plan to keep my eyes open for these occurrences.

 

[Silent Bob]

Those who deal with science don't care what you think.

I wish people like you would stop claiming to be a spokesman for all scientists, it really is annoying. Scientists are a diverse group of people with vastly different views and we argue with each other all the time. You would know this if you were a scientist yourself.

You should take note of this well respected scientist who is no stranger to astronomy (Patrick Moore, The Sky at night) and perhaps adopt his approach to discussing ideas you find strange. If he can be this respectful, why can't you?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFuKxvMWFk

When I was at school, I was taught a very specific narrative about Columbus, and so was everyone of my generation. The narrative is

1) In 1492, everyone believed the Earth was flat, and if you sailed too far, you would fall off the edge.

2) Columbus set out to prove everyone wrong by sailing around the world.

3) He expected to arrive in India, but accidentally discovered America instead. This is why we call Native Americans 'Indians' to this day.

This almost feels like a Mandela effect for me, I clearly remember being taught the same three points. I was at school in the UK late 70's/80's, how about you? Curious to see how wide spread this lesson was!

 

[Shadow11]

Those who are interested in the topic of flat earth- have you seen "vibes of cosmos" channel on YouTube? Or Ewar Anon on bitchute? I'm wondering other like minded people's thoughts.

But the sheeple have lost what minuscule critical thinking skills they once had. if any.
The globe spins 1000 mph, yet the starry night sky appears motionless?

Some flatearthers think there will be an awakening. I don't see how.
The ptb work hard to keep us, as David Icke describes, dumb, drugged,and docile.

Flat Earth is really a puddle in the Infinite Plane.
Other puddle worlds exist outside our Antarctic border.
No flights are possible over Antarctica, such as between southern tips of Africa and South America.
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The image is of course speculation about what lies beyond the ice wall.

Another video, which I have managed to lose :-\ suggests that the Moon reflects more of the Infinite Plane.
Not Vibes of Cosmos? ?
Has anyone seen it? about Mu and Atlantis visible outside the Antarctic ice shelf?


Some FEers think the NWO agents of deception will fake a flight to justify the fake icy continent at the bottom of the spinning ball


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wEgsS95Qknw

I have seen it. I came here looking to see if others have. Have you seen ewar anon on bitchute?

 

[superstar]

Great video @Silent Bob

Space agencies proved pushing nonsense through their so obvious fake methods and now only a blind man can believe them. once they are out of equation, now everything make sense except mainstream narrative.

 

[Thax]

As a retired Canadian Military, I once had the opportunity to spend time with some Russian forces in Croatia of all places. They were a special division and their patch was the flat earth. We chatted through broken English and I asked about the patch. The response I got was that it represents the truth of our Earth. He said he couldn't say anything in particular, but he mentioned that it is much much larger than you think and consists of more land than you know.

 

[luddite]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFuKxvMWFk

Brilliant find. Very enjoyable and thought provoking.

After my chemistry degree was over I did a short summer nights cosmology course with Mt Burnett Observatory - Dandenongs, Victoria 15 years before it was community run. It was a university telescope then and was used for these small courses. I got my money back after they wouldn't let us move, aim, focus anywhere except the tiniest part of the night sky. We begged. We pleaded. We left assuming that the dodgy TV monitor that was showing the view from the viewfinder was nothing more than a vhs tape. The entire experience was lame. It helped push this little brain washed scientist into some alternative thinking which has never stopped.

 

[FarewellAngelina]

I live within walking distance of the local county amateur astronomy society . Paid a visit to the observatory during an open day event . Was shown a room underneath the main telescope where all the viewing takes place . Apparently one sits in front of the screen and remotely directs the scope from a keyboard and look at the grainy screen.

I asked to see the scope but was informed the thing was out of action - faulty camera - but I was shown around it. Fit an eyepiece I suggested . No can do, said the guide , we don't use those. The faulty part had been sent back to America for repair - Yale university, if I recall correctly.

Makes me wonder - is astronomy a controlled field of study now?

All images we are fed are CGI it appears. Cameras that take thousands of images and then a select few are stacked to give a desired image, manufactured by a software system.

 

[luddite]

Makes me wonder - is astronomy a controlled field of study now?

Yes. Highly likely.

All images we are fed are CGI it appears. Cameras that take thousands of images and then a select few are stacked to give a desired image, manufactured by a software system.

Sounds about right.

All experiments of chemistry equations, molecular interactions and physics are conducted in software for the last 30 years.

 

[Silent Bob]

Makes me wonder - is astronomy a controlled field of study now?

All images we are fed are CGI it appears. Cameras that take thousands of images and then a select few are stacked to give a desired image, manufactured by a software system.

I think the main/most powerful telescopes will be controlled, but on the flip side there are so many amateur astronomers out there with their own telescopes aswell.

I keep wondering about the last guy in the video I posted, making his own telescope with extra lens which he claimed showed a lot more than an astronomers telescope. I want to look further into that when I have time, especially how he overcame the light loss. Patrick mentioned this and it was acknowledged but it also didn't seem to be a problem for him. Often what we see during experiments does not fit with our theory, I wonder if the theoretical light loss is much higher than the actual loss?

 

[Safranek]

I keep wondering about the last guy in the video I posted, making his own telescope with extra lens which he claimed showed a lot more than an astronomers telescope.

I immediately wondered the same. The idea that 'modern' telescopes are purposely built 'crippled' suggests a massive conspiracy, as I refuse to believe that those who design them are not aware of their shortcomings. I'm curious what you find out.

 

[FarewellAngelina]

I think the main/most powerful telescopes will be controlled, but on the flip side there are so many amateur astronomers out there with their own telescopes aswell.

I keep wondering about the last guy in the video I posted, making his own telescope with extra lens which he claimed showed a lot more than an astronomers telescope. I want to look further into that when I have time, especially how he overcame the light loss. Patrick mentioned this and it was acknowledged but it also didn't seem to be a problem for him. Often what we see during experiments does not fit with our theory, I wonder if the theoretical light loss is much higher than the actual loss?

After that experience I bought two telescopes , a 6" refractor and a 4" reflector. Never see anything other than discs when looking at the planets although alot will depend on atmospheric conditions I suppose.

I also was told that optical telescopes and microscopes vary only in focal length , they're basically the same instrument. Sort of begs the question of what are we looking at in the starfield.

 

[Worsaae]

I wish people like you would stop claiming to be a spokesman for all scientists, it really is annoying. Scientists are a diverse group of people with vastly different views and we argue with each other all the time. You would know this if you were a scientist yourself.

You should take note of this well respected scientist who is no stranger to astronomy (Patrick Moore, The Sky at night) and perhaps adopt his approach to discussing ideas you find strange. If he can be this respectful, why can't you?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFuKxvMWFk


This almost feels like a Mandela effect for me, I clearly remember being taught the same three points. I was at school in the UK late 70's/80's, how about you? Curious to see how wide spread this lesson was!

I was taught the exact same thing in Denmark but I was born later than that

 

[Whateverittakes]

Those who are interested in the topic of flat earth- have you seen "vibes of cosmos" channel on YouTube? Or Ewar Anon on bitchute? I'm wondering other like minded people's thoughts.

I have seen it. I came here looking to see if others have. Have you seen ewar anon on bitchute?

There's a whole thread on Ewars videos

New Ewaranon video

His videos are well known here. Though most the thread is arguing about whether he is controlled op but it's at least agreed his videos are very well put together and he seems to have a lot of interesting ideas about the sun and shape of the earth I have not seen anywhere else.

I find the idea of a giant, flat clock face earth fascinating. The north poles movement would also be explained well by this model.

 

[Shadow11]

There's a whole thread on Ewars videos

New Ewaranon video

His videos are well known here. Though most the thread is arguing about whether he is controlled op but it's at least agreed his videos are very well put together and he seems to have a lot of interesting ideas about the sun and shape of the earth I have not seen anywhere else.

Thanks- yeah I started to find all that out as the days went.
I was intrigued by the connection he made with flat earth and the reset. I guess I'm just interested in what others think. The biblical route or annunaki route etc.

I thought the videos were good. It explains most of what flat earths know and he presented it probably how he believes and sees the world. Just like I'd probably bring a whole bunch of Norse references.

But other people's views open up or can add to your current view so I don't mind when people have different theories. And it would be cool to see other like minded ideas.

 

[pushamaku]

Flat Earther admits he was wrong after traveling 9,000 miles to Antarctica

A recent trip to Antarctica by flat earthers has led to some admitting defeat in their theory. The trip, which cost over $US35,000, was arranged to prove that the Earth is not round by showing that the sun does not stay in the sky for 24 hours in Antarctica during the summer. However, upon witnessing the 24-hour sun, some flat earthers have conceded that their theory is incorrect.

 

[ThomasVonDerBosch]

$35k to get a team of people to Antarctica??

Seems quite reasonably priced.

Not getting blown out of the water by military patrols….. priceless.

I think the biggest issue here is the unlimited budget for telling the big lies. Getting to the Antarctic on a 35k budget is about as plausible as Israel being successfully attacked by a bunch of guys in pickup trucks racing across the border. They both being funded by the same perpetually schwetzing liars.