Flat Earth

[Just]

In the time between the thread being closed and then reopened, I have added new ideas about cosmology.
I've touched on the hologram projection theory briefly and need to clarify that position which, by the way, some mainstream physicists accept as the true nature of reality.



In this current reset, I reckon WW2 Nazis had knowledge of the black sun (swastika) mechanism which transfers data from "Summerland" to our dimension. One of the ways we can see this veil, or through it, is the so-called lunar waves which have been photographed multiple times over the years.
They are not contrails or camera artifacts or optical illusions, or anything other than what they are -- the hologram projection refreshing itself.

We should recognize the freemason code of honor, or that which they call honor, as a transgendered version of the truth.
That is, their little mind games take a real thing and turn it upside down and inside out. Which would be a good song title, okgo?

With their the Big Bang theory, for example, the Body Scientific freemasons take the computer matrix of our hologram universe, and make a joke out of it.
First, there was nothing.
And then, BANG! The nothing exploded and then stars and planets and people appeared.
Religions at least admit a creator or creators, who I liken to Kevin Flynn, the computer game wizard in TRON, the original movie, which was more better than The Matrix and Avatar and Dark City, etc.

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Who runs the projector? 'tis a mystery. Advanced Beings, the aeons of gnostic knowers and, in a way, Greek myths.
Gamers, I reckon. Bored ABs who built ("emanated") dungeons and dragons, larped around as titans who begat giants, played god and forged empires and then burned them down and rebooted and reset the fake realities.
And who are we? Fractals, or so they say. Little offshoots of the One of the Pleroma.

Sorry but isn’t this just a rehashing of the ‘humanity are non-existent, readily disposable, useless pawns in some gamers imagination’ schtick? The magical and transformational reality of humanity is being overlooked and forgotten at our peril. We have to wake up to the reality that we are much stronger than the forces that control us. Of course they don’t want us to know - that’s the point of evil: to create a duality that forces us to recognise and to choose what happens next. Laugh in their faces and understand you have the power to defeat them.

 

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Sorry but isn’t this just a rehashing of the ‘humanity are non-existent, readily disposable, useless pawns in some gamers imagination’ schtick? The magical and transformational reality of humanity is being overlooked and forgotten at our peril. We have to wake up to the reality that we are much stronger than the forces that control us. Of course they don’t want us to know - that’s the point of evil: to create a duality that forces us to recognise and to choose what happens next. Laugh in their faces and understand you have the power to defeat them.

I'm not saying we are helpless pawns. We may be aetherial beings who volunteer or are conscripted to participate in a virtual reality.
Buddhists might say this is a test of our character. an experiment or a prison. or a stage in a process.
If we cannot achieve enlightnment here in this dimension of faux physical suffering, we will meet karma consequences in cycles of reincarnation.
Gnosticism makes more sense of existence than religions, which are based on the supernatural. Which I totally reject -- and have rejected since I was a child in Sunday School
I think that the Original Design was in fact duality, the syzygy of Sophia and Jesus. When she disobeyed that principle (as Eve, Pandora, Gaia) she created the Demiurge (Saturn), the instigator of evil. Can we defeat the evil d•evil in our personal lives? yes, if we exercise our free will.

This line of thinking is better suited to the thread about Archons and Devas, and I am ill-equipped to understand such deep ideas.

But I am fairly sure of one thing -- that the great poets and philosophers were sure that life is but an endless dream, a cave of shadows, where we strut and fret our upon the stage, etc. Not magical, though. We just don't have the vocabulary to define this thing called existence.

Movies hint at a computer program reality; physicists propose the hologram projection.
Right now, those concepts make better sense to me than the Big Bang. And better than 3 religions based on Abraham, the man willing to cut his son's throat because God demanded a blood sacrifice. People who call themselves Christians also buy into the blood sacrifice of Jesus, whose greater identity has been subverted and denigrated by the Control System.

Enough speculation on matters which rile people up.
Flat Earth is much easier to observe, even if we don't know how it came to be.

Oceans are water. Water is level in that it does not adhere to a surface that curves 8 inches per mile squared.
Air can not adhere to a surface that spins in 3 different directions at 1000 + 66,600 + .5 million mph.
Far distant targets that are visible with zoom lenses immediately disprove the watery spinning ball inside an infinite vacuum chamber.

 

[Seiya]

Our crater was invade a long time, a sneakily invasion like the snack they are. Every event that causes pain, suffer or degradation they are the root cause. In every single one, without exception. When I first started noticing this I thought "no! It can't be!" But after a few years I have no doubt whatsoever. I believe in evidence not coincidences.

In addition to the invading parasites, there is another outsider, which I call creatures or as they have always been called: demons. Parasites have a connection with them. In politics and in the entertainment world there are many, and they are disgusting to see.

If you don't believe that there is good and evil, your life will never have meaning.
When you become aware of this, you will see the world with different eyes and see how beautiful it is. People's actions are not the world. The nature of man is good but we have the capacity to do evil as well. From birth to death we all have free will. You will always have a choice in life. Evil has another name: corruption. Only when you choose to be corrupt does evil enter your life to destroy you and others.

Space is fake and we are fed a mixture of lies and distorted truth.

I think the MKUltra branch call operation Matrix movie was a success operation. So many bought this ridiculous idea of simulation. They just take your mind from prison ball to digital prison SiFi Channel style.
This movie made by 2 men that think is woman, Lana e Lilly (of course Lilly) and they first work had Sylvester Stallone, Antonio Banderas, and Julianne Moore at the time this people had relevance. If you choose understand your life base on this good luck.

 

[AntiSoof]

I'm not saying we are helpless pawns. We may be aetherial beings who volunteer or are conscripted to participate in a virtual reality.
Buddhists might say this is a test of our character. an experiment or a prison. or a stage in a process.
If we cannot achieve enlightnment here in this dimension of faux physical suffering, we will meet karma consequences in cycles of reincarnation.
Gnosticism makes more sense of existence than religions, which are based on the supernatural. Which I totally reject -- and have rejected since I was a child in Sunday School
I think that the Original Design was in fact duality, the syzygy of Sophia and Jesus. When she disobeyed that principle (as Eve, Pandora, Gaia) she created the Demiurge (Saturn), the instigator of evil. Can we defeat the evil d•evil in our personal lives? yes, if we exercise our free will.

This line of thinking is better suited to the thread about Archons and Devas, and I am ill-equipped to understand such deep ideas.

But I am fairly sure of one thing -- that the great poets and philosophers were sure that life is but an endless dream, a cave of shadows, where we strut and fret our upon the stage, etc. Not magical, though. We just don't have the vocabulary to define this thing called existence.

Movies hint at a computer program reality; physicists propose the hologram projection.
Right now, those concepts make better sense to me than the Big Bang. And better than 3 religions based on Abraham, the man willing to cut his son's throat because God demanded a blood sacrifice. People who call themselves Christians also buy into the blood sacrifice of Jesus, whose greater identity has been subverted and denigrated by the Control System.

Enough speculation on matters which rile people up.
Flat Earth is much easier to observe, even if we don't know how it came to be.

Oceans are water. Water is level in that it does not adhere to a surface that curves 8 inches per mile squared.
Air can not adhere to a surface that spins in 3 different directions at 1000 + 66,600 + .5 million mph.
Far distant targets that are visible with zoom lenses immediately disprove the watery spinning ball inside an infinite vacuum chamber.

You say that you cannot imagine that the globe with a circumference of 40,000 km would be covered with a layer of water of about 4 km thick.

In a ratio of 1: 10,000 that would be a sphere of 4 meters in diameter with 0.4 mm of water distributed over it. That sphere is located in a space where there is minimal other attraction, except for the gravity generated by that sphere.

Why would the water fall off there? There is no up nor down, there is only a force towards the center of that sphere.

I can imagine that this is possible and that the water just stays there and is nicely distributed over that sphere.

By the way, did you know that the oceans are not 'flat' everywhere? Depending on the density of the subsurface, the water level is higher or lower. Some parts of the ocean can be meters deeper or shallower than average. This shows that the earth pulls on the water, or 'something' pushes against the water. The fact that we do not understand and cannot comprehend gravity does not mean that gravity does not exist. The orbit of the earth may also seem to move fast, but it is relatively very slow. Just look at the sun, how slowly it seems to move. I have read Eric's 200 'proofs' and have refuted them one by one. So what more do you want? Try to think 3D and try to read something about relativity. Like Einstein's. (Just kidding.) But honestly, think clearly and believe people who point out your errors. If not, then further discussion is probably pointless.

 

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You say that you cannot imagine that the globe with a circumference of 40,000 km would be covered with a layer of water of about 4 km thick.

In a ratio of 1: 10,000 that would be a sphere of 4 meters in diameter with 0.4 mm of water distributed over it. That sphere is located in a space where there is minimal other attraction, except for the gravity generated by that sphere.

Why would the water fall off there? There is no up nor down, there is only a force towards the center of that sphere.

I can imagine that this is possible and that the water just stays there and is nicely distributed over that sphere.

By the way, did you know that the oceans are not 'flat' everywhere? Depending on the density of the subsurface, the water level is higher or lower. Some parts of the ocean can be meters deeper or shallower than average. This shows that the earth pulls on the water, or 'something' pushes against the water. The fact that we do not understand and cannot comprehend gravity does not mean that gravity does not exist. The orbit of the earth may also seem to move fast, but it is relatively very slow. Just look at the sun, how slowly it seems to move. I have read Eric's 200 'proofs' and have refuted them one by one. So what more do you want? Try to think 3D and try to read something about relativity. Like Einstein's. (Just kidding.) But honestly, think clearly and believe people who point out your errors. If not, then further discussion is probably pointless.

You make some interesting points, which I will now demolish. but not because I "imagine" anything. I prefer to use laws of physics and logic.

. First, I can't imagine why you confuse ocean flatness with depth. We easily observe far-off targets over bodies of water with magnification lenses . Chicago, the Alps, lighthouses, and other photographic evidence immediately disprove the watery curve of 8 inches per mile squared
.. Your contention that gravity is a force that pull or pushes water and other gross matter is a lie put forth by the Body Scientific (BS). The BS gravity force is dispelled by clouds, smoke, gases, and other lighter-than-air substances that float because their particle density is less than that of those comprising the atmosphere.
... I like your recommendation of thinking with 3d and relativity. How amusing to consider that air which appears totally still is actually moving at mach speeds in multiple trajectories.
.... Here, to illustrate that absurdity, we see the solar system model with earth as one of the blue-green spaceballs. Our blue marble ball is rotating 1000 mph, orbiting the sun at 66,600 mph, and speeding ahead at half a million mph.
And so is our air, relativity speaking. That's what official BS astronomy declares in their textbooks.



Thanks for participating in this discussion of cosmology.
I will now stand for correction if you choose to disabuse Eric Dubay and me of our errors.

 

[AntiSoof]

You make some interesting points, which I will now demolish. but not because I "imagine" anything. I prefer to use laws of physics and logic.

. First, I can't imagine why you confuse ocean flatness with depth. We easily observe far-off targets over bodies of water with magnification lenses . Chicago, the Alps, lighthouses, and other photographic evidence immediately disprove the watery curve of 8 inches per mile squared
.. Your contention that gravity is a force that pull or pushes water and other gross matter is a lie put forth by the Body Scientific (BS). The BS gravity force is dispelled by clouds, smoke, gases, and other lighter-than-air substances that float because their particle density is less than that of those comprising the atmosphere.
... I like your recommendation of thinking with 3d and relativity. How amusing to consider that air which appears totally still is actually moving at mach speeds in multiple trajectories.
.... Here, to illustrate that absurdity, we see the solar system model with earth as one of the blue-green spaceballs. Our blue marble ball is rotating 1000 mph, orbiting the sun at 66,600 mph, and speeding ahead at half a million mph.
And so is our air, relativity speaking. That's what official BS astronomy declares in their textbooks.

Thanks for participating in this discussion of cosmology.
I will now stand for correction if you choose to disabuse Eric Dubay and me of our errors.

Lets stay at why you think water falls from the globe? I gave you an example. Why do you not accept that the globe can hold the water? Can't you see that it is easy possible? We can see gravity and we know that from the earth gravity is becoming less. So, far away from earth is must be possible to hold 0,4 mm water on a globe 4 meter in circumference. Can you imagine that?

I gave you an example of the water level of the ocean. So I called the ocean 'flat'. But, what I wanted to say is that de terrain under the ocean plays a role in that level; heavy ground: a 'hole', light: a hill. We see thus what is happening. Water is not always 'flat'.

Please, let us do one point at the time: why does the ocean not fall of the earth. And why is the water not always evenly distributed. And why the surface can be round, as a globe.

 

[Seiya]

All this science discussion is a waste of time when people don't even know what science is or what it's for or where it's used.

I'm just asking you one very simple thing. Show me a photograph of the Earth taken from space.

To this day it has never been presented, I am waiting decades, just as I continue to wait for the photograph of DNA and the photograph of the atom.

But this thing they call science is not capable of presenting photographs of many things they claim. It reminds me of a group that acts the same way they never presents any evidence.

 

[Tetromino]

And that "They must know" that their evils will be outed, ? maybe. But isn't that when we are reset to zero? flat-lined, so to speak?

I imagine that's what they would like to happen when we get too aware but if we look deeper it's clear that people managed to break the cycle before.

Show me a photograph of the Earth taken from space.

That was the turning point for me when I was trying to find real photographs of space or satellites that weren't artists' impressions.

 

[luckyducky007]

All this science discussion is a waste of time when people don't even know what science is or what it's for or where it's used.

Just because some people might not understand the science behind it all doesn't mean that its wrong just because they may disagree with it.
That to me is just foolishness.

As for pictures, look further than ya nose? There are videos from when we first send a v2 into space in the 40s and there is a video of that on youtube as well as again in 59 i think it was where we sent a staged rocket up and get an even better look at the globe of the earth from space.

People may continue to disagree even in the face of truth, but it doesn't mean it isn't true.

 

[Deleted member 1816]

Just because some people might not understand the science behind it all doesn't mean that its wrong just because they may disagree with it.
That to me is just foolishness.

As for pictures, look further than ya nose? There are videos from when we first send a v2 into space in the 40s and there is a video of that on youtube as well as again in 59 i think it was where we sent a staged rocket up and get an even better look at the globe of the earth from space.

People may continue to disagree even in the face of truth, but it doesn't mean it isn't true.

Ther is NOT a single picture of "globe" earth in existence. Nasa freely admits they are all composit images. I saw a "video" of Will Smith saving the planet and/or humanity. More than one, in fact. That Will, always so busy. Do I believe it because I "saw" it in a video? Uh, no!

 

[luckyducky007]

Ther is NOT a single picture of "globe" earth in existence. Nasa freely admits they are all composit images. I saw a "video" of Will Smith saving the planet and/or humanity. More than one, in fact. That Will, always so busy. Do I believe it because I "saw" it in a video? Uh, no!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O99IH9kbPw


Like i said, look further? Not a photo that's for sure but i feel a video is just as good if not better.

 

[Akanah]

I made a thread a while ago on the subject of earth form which was unfortunately deleted by whoever. I tried to provide photographic evidence that our earth has an embryonic shape that is largely reflected in stellar nebulae in space. That's why I don't believe in this light years large cosmos and also not in a plasma sun. I have now created a whole website on this topic. This saves me from having to put photos in here that are deleted for no reason. -> biologischer himmel
However, the website is in German because I come from Germany.

 

[alltheleaves]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O99IH9kbPw

re: the film on Alphabet owned youtube...

The clouds don't move but since it's General Electric I be lie ve it!

 

[Tetromino]

Ther is NOT a single picture of "globe" earth in existence. Nasa freely admits they are all composit images. I saw a "video" of Will Smith saving the planet and/or humanity. More than one, in fact. That Will, always so busy. Do I believe it because I "saw" it in a video? Uh, no!

 

[Deleted member 1816]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O99IH9kbPw


Like i said, look further? Not a photo that's for sure but i feel a video is just as good if not better.

Surely, you jest! 1. Why isn't it spinning? Never mind, not worth debating if this video is your proof.

 

[luckyducky007]

Surely, you jest! 1. Why isn't it spinning? Never mind, not worth debating if this video is your proof.

Surely you understand size and scale? Surely you understand that even though the earth is moving at 1000mph at the equator and being roughly 24000miles around and takes 24 hours to do a full revolution then surely we wouldn't see the spin in a min long clip?

As for clouds not changing in the same amount of time its not a time lapse. have you ever looked outside at the clouds on a calm day, they wont move for a period of time.

You seek truth yet hide from it when it comes because it doesn't fit with your perceived view of how things currently are. But then again those world views weren't even made by you but guided by others opinions in the first place.

 

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[Seiya]

Just because some people might not understand the science behind it all doesn't mean that its wrong just because they may disagree with it.
That to me is just foolishness.

I would say foolishness is exactly what you just wrote, foolishness and nonsenses.

What you quote is not a question, it is an affirmative sentence. Based on what I have observed which can also be seen in your replay. It is evidence that people do not know what science is and assume a false meaning. When you write “understand the science” is meaningless, it is like if you saying let’s “moisten the wet” puddle

Don’t exist “the science” because science it is not a thing that is ever settled and anyone that believes that there is such a thing is a moron

I’m not blaming you for this misguided belief you have because it was intentionally taught to be this way. It’s Is a deception, a scam. By who? Guess who is involved in deception or a scam every single time? Of course the same suspects, it’s the people that everybody has been noticing more and more

As for pictures, look further than ya nose? There are videos from when we first send a v2 into space in the 40s and there is a video of that on youtube as well as again in 59 i think it was where we sent a staged rocket up and get an even better look at the globe of the earth from space.

Actually Im actually only capable of looking further than my nose because (perhaps unlike yourself) I do not have a big nose, I imagine having a nose so big that you are almost cross eyed because it gets in the way and you can see it always without mirror?

Whatever it is this that you believe, please post here. Maybe you are right.

People may continue to disagree even in the face of truth, but it doesn't mean it isn't true.

I don’t think you know the meaning of the words you write. Clearly you don’t know what “disagree” means and how or when you can use it properly or not.

 

[Deleted member 1816]

Surely you understand size and scale? Surely you understand that even though the earth is moving at 1000mph at the equator and being roughly 24000miles around and takes 24 hours to do a full revolution then surely we wouldn't see the spin in a min long clip?

As for clouds not changing in the same amount of time its not a time lapse. have you ever looked outside at the clouds on a calm day, they wont move for a period of time.

You seek truth yet hide from it when it comes because it doesn't fit with your perceived view of how things currently are. But then again those world views weren't even made by you but guided by others opinions in the first place.

Pal, Take that last paragraph of yours....and apply it to yourself. You're very funny, did you know that?

 

[Seiya]

Pal, Take that last paragraph of yours....and apply it to yourself. You're very funny, did you know that?

I wish lucky ducky 007 was at least funny but 77th brigade is runout on the funny ones.