Flat Earth

[Citezenship]

Just for shits n giggles
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The bloodhound team removed 16000 tonnes of stone by hand,

Damn i thought they were taking the piss but,

Those orange suits remind me of something but it is not "team players".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34200629
The result of all these factors is that the surface may look perfectly "flat" to the naked eye, but it's really a slightly rough, irregular and undulating surface, which approximately follows an equipotential gravity surface on the surface of the Earth.

 

[veeall]

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[E.Bearclaw]

roundabout spinning at 5mph would have a fast rate of rotation, maybe once a second? Now imagine the same roundabout spinning at the rate of one revolution per day, i.e. it takes 24 hours to rotate once. Imagine sitting for 24 hours watching this roundabout turn once

RPMs and revolutions per day may be useful for some applications, but not for centrifugal force. Speed is speed is speed.
One rpd, so? The ground spinning at 1000 mph would chunk off an elephant or a bulldizer in a nanosecond. Mountains would crumble, oceans would turn into tsunamis, the whole ball of dirt and rock would disintegrate instantly.

Rim velocity is what matters. 1000 miles per hour. Golly gee, that would blow the doors off the Batmobile.
Nothing could withstand flying off at a tangent from a giant ball spinning at mach 1.5. So this rpd business is a useless comparison.

And Bob's professor who shrugged off experiments which failed to show earrh's movement. Well there you go! same ol' same 'ol false authorities.

That's what they do, these experts who make up fairy tales and call them theories.
They torture logic with false constants (like the speed of light) and when you catch them with their britches down, they shrug and grin and drop their microphones and say "my bad" and collect their paychecks for their peer-reviewed hogwash.

On this velocity business. I can kind of see how the effect of spinning "could" be passed off, as because of a sitting in the car effect. One thing, I haven't heard discussed by Flat Earth people, or defended, by non-flat earth people, is that if the earth is spinning at 1000mph at the equator, it must also be spinning at 0mph at the poles. Me who lives reasonably far up the North hemisphere - in the UK - should be spinning somewhere in between this, I am not going to learn spherical geometry to work out exactly what, but right now it feels really really cold outside, so lets say 200mph.

In short - I am allegedly spinning at 800 mph slower than someone on the equator. When I travel between the two places, I would notice physically the difference in speed at which I am being transported at? Why do I feel no difference? How do planes that fly from the north to the south hemisphere deal with the hundreds of mph difference at which they are being rotated? I have stepped off a few planes in my time, and my body needs to adjust to the temperature, the sunlight, the language, the new terrain, culture, time difference absolutely everything, why not the speed at which I am travelling?

My post is a classic example of how to preach to the converted.

 

[Curved Pluto]

How do planes land on a north to south runway? At what point do they flip upside down when flying to Australia from North America?

 

[Lightseeker]

I came across this video on YouTube tonight. Interestingly enough, it is featured on a mainstream media channel:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zzTanyzDoA


Anyone ever read Lovecraft's "At the mountains of madness"? Perhaps Lovecraft, being a sensitive man of great imagination, was given a glimpse of what is going on out there in Antarctica and beyond.

 

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Centrifugal forces is calculated with the angular velocity not rim velocity.

The pilot is turning 360 degrees in a couple of seconds.
We turn 360 degrees in 24h.

Here is your so-called angular velocity of earth.
Which turns 24,000 miles in 24 hours.
. . . . . .
https://www.google.com/url?q=[URL]h...FjAQegQIDBAB&usg=AOvVaw3MUaE4rqgguTlJN7NlU5j6[/URL]

Sep 3, 2011 · When calculating the angular velocity of the Earth as it completes a full rotation on its own axis (a solar day), this equation is represented as: ωavg = 2πrad/1day (86400 seconds), which works out to a moderate angular velocity of 7.2921159 × 10-5 radians/second.
. . . . .

This is false reasoning, aka sophistry, which the Body Scientific has embraced, after Einstein & Cohort threw out the Scientific Method. It uses obscure jargon, false mathematical constants, and the endless capacity of humans to BELIEVE Authority.

So this asinine calculation (radians per second) is mumbo jumbo gobbledygook.
Because it ignores distance.
The globe's axis turns 1 mph.
Its equator turns 1000 mph.
which the mathemagical equation sloughs off as insnignicant.

We see this shameful behavior every doggone day on the tv, where politicians and "news" reporters and "scientists" like Fauci sell their propaganda.
Climate change. Covid. Vaccines. Election results. Stock market. Social justice. blah blah BS.
And Homo ignoranus eats it up.

Same difference. because people just don't think. They believe. The education system has dumbed down the dumbasses to the point that they believe they live on a spinning ball in a total vacuum, which is kind of a metaphor for how people live in this disgusting world of lies.

 

[Lightseeker]

I don't quite remember where I saw that argument, about the shape of the Earth having significance for a human being's feeling of freedom. If we live on a spinning ball making its way across the vacuum of a vast universe at tremendous speed, the only way out of here is "up", meaning that the people who hold the key to the gate are our rulers. Meaning that this planet is a prison.

If, however, Earth is indeed a plane (and I am 99% percent convinced that it is), then the way out is either towards the center or towards the edge.

 

[Bitbybit]

Centrifugal forces is calculated with the angular velocity not rim velocity.

The pilot is turning 360 degrees in a couple of seconds.
We turn 360 degrees in 24h.

Here is your so-called angular velocity of earth.
Which turns 24,000 miles in 24 hours.
. . . . . .
https://www.google.com/url?q=[URL]h...FjAQegQIDBAB&usg=AOvVaw3MUaE4rqgguTlJN7NlU5j6[/URL]

Sep 3, 2011 · When calculating the angular velocity of the Earth as it completes a full rotation on its own axis (a solar day), this equation is represented as: ωavg = 2πrad/1day (86400 seconds), which works out to a moderate angular velocity of 7.2921159 × 10-5 radians/second.
. . . . .

This is false reasoning, aka sophistry, which the Body Scientific has embraced, after Einstein & Cohort threw out the Scientific Method. It uses obscure jargon, false mathematical constants, and the endless capacity of humans to BELIEVE Authority.

So this asinine calculation (radians per second) is mumbo jumbo gobbledygook.
Because it ignores distance.
The globe's axis turns 1 mph.
Its equator turns 1000 mph.
which the mathemagical equation sloughs off as insnignicant.

We see this shameful behavior every doggone day on the tv, where politicians and "news" reporters and "scientists" like Fauci sell their propaganda.
Climate change. Covid. Vaccines. Election results. Stock market. Social justice. blah blah BS.
And Homo ignoranus eats it up.

Same difference. because people just don't think. They believe. The education system has dumbed down the dumbasses to the point that they believe they live on a spinning ball in a total vacuum, which is kind of a metaphor for how people live in this disgusting world of lies.

No distance is not insignificant
The centrifugal force is:
angular velocity squared x DISTANCE
https://www.engineersedge.com/physics/centrifugal_force.htm

 

[grav]

I don't quite remember where I saw that argument, about the shape of the Earth having significance for a human being's feeling of freedom. If we live on a spinning ball making its way across the vacuum of a vast universe at tremendous speed, the only way out of here is "up", meaning that the people who hold the key to the gate are our rulers. Meaning that this planet is a prison.

If, however, Earth is indeed a plane (and I am 99% percent convinced that it is), then the way out is either towards the center or towards the edge.

I'm also 99% convinced that the surface is an irregular plane.

The Hollow Earth theory may also explain how we can find what you call -- the way out -- of our prison. The UN has erected a fence (Antarctic Treaty) with a military presence to prevent our leaving this idiotic world of lies we live in.

Once again, my "satellite" server is too slow to embed an attachment.
It shows Rick Potvin's map of the flat earth. Images like this almost always show an icy infinite plane beyond Antarctica. But Admiral Byrd reported seeing unfrozen land and waters when he explored Antarctica before the Great Lockdown in the 50s.

https://stolenhistory.net/attachmen...d]=3724&hash=c23092e106a9e2618b2412181852f068

 

[Lightseeker]

I don't quite remember where I saw that argument, about the shape of the Earth having significance for a human being's feeling of freedom. If we live on a spinning ball making its way across the vacuum of a vast universe at tremendous speed, the only way out of here is "up", meaning that the people who hold the key to the gate are our rulers. Meaning that this planet is a prison.

If, however, Earth is indeed a plane (and I am 99% percent convinced that it is), then the way out is either towards the center or towards the edge.

I'm also 99% convinced that the surface is an irregular plane.

The Hollow Earth theory may also explain how we can find what you call -- the way out -- of our prison. The UN has erected a fence (Antarctic Treaty) with a military presence to prevent our leaving this idiotic world of lies we live in.

Once again, my "satellite" server is too slow to embed an attachment.
It shows Rick Potvin's map of the flat earth. Images like this almost always show an icy infinite plane beyond Antarctica. But Admiral Byrd reported seeing unfrozen land and waters when he explored Antarctica before the Great Lockdown in the 50s.

https://stolenhistory.net/attachmen...d]=3724&hash=c23092e106a9e2618b2412181852f068

What is the basis for that map? Which ancient text or testimony?

 

[grav]

I don't quite remember where I saw that argument, about the shape of the Earth having significance for a human being's feeling of freedom. If we live on a spinning ball making its way across the vacuum of a vast universe at tremendous speed, the only way out of here is "up", meaning that the people who hold the key to the gate are our rulers. Meaning that this planet is a prison.

If, however, Earth is indeed a plane (and I am 99% percent convinced that it is), then the way out is either towards the center or towards the edge.

I'm also 99% convinced that the surface is an irregular plane.

The Hollow Earth theory may also explain how we can find what you call -- the way out -- of our prison. The UN has erected a fence (Antarctic Treaty) with a military presence to prevent our leaving this idiotic world of lies we live in.

Once again, my "satellite" server is too slow to embed an attachment.
It shows Rick Potvin's map of the flat earth. Images like this almost always show an icy infinite plane beyond Antarctica. But Admiral Byrd reported seeing unfrozen land and waters when he explored Antarctica before the Great Lockdown in the 50s.

https://stolenhistory.net/attachmen...d]=3724&hash=c23092e106a9e2618b2412181852f068

What is the basis for that map? Which ancient text or testimony?

I think it's basically the Gleason map with Rick Potvin's own guesstimates of distances across oceans.

We used to have a neat app on NullSchool, but they took away the azimuthal_equidistant projection after those pesky flateaethers started using it.

This bowdlerized version lets users click on options for wind, temps, world views, and other information.
https://classic.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/conic_equidistant
There are no true world maps anywhere. With one exception.
I'd bet the darn farm that NASA has them locked away where the peasants will never find them.

 

[Lightseeker]

I don't quite remember where I saw that argument, about the shape of the Earth having significance for a human being's feeling of freedom. If we live on a spinning ball making its way across the vacuum of a vast universe at tremendous speed, the only way out of here is "up", meaning that the people who hold the key to the gate are our rulers. Meaning that this planet is a prison.

If, however, Earth is indeed a plane (and I am 99% percent convinced that it is), then the way out is either towards the center or towards the edge.

I'm also 99% convinced that the surface is an irregular plane.

The Hollow Earth theory may also explain how we can find what you call -- the way out -- of our prison. The UN has erected a fence (Antarctic Treaty) with a military presence to prevent our leaving this idiotic world of lies we live in.

Once again, my "satellite" server is too slow to embed an attachment.
It shows Rick Potvin's map of the flat earth. Images like this almost always show an icy infinite plane beyond Antarctica. But Admiral Byrd reported seeing unfrozen land and waters when he explored Antarctica before the Great Lockdown in the 50s.

https://stolenhistory.net/attachmen...d]=3724&hash=c23092e106a9e2618b2412181852f068

What is the basis for that map? Which ancient text or testimony?

I think it's basically the Gleason map with Rick Potvin's own guesstimates of distances across oceans.

We used to have a neat app on NullSchool, but they took away the azimuthal_equidistant projection after those pesky flateaethers started using it.

This bowdlerized version lets users click on options for wind, temps, world views, and other information.
https://classic.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/conic_equidistant
There are no true world maps anywhere. With one exception.
I'd bet the darn farm that NASA has them locked away where the peasants will never find them.

"Basically the Gleason map"

Does the Gleason map suggest endless ice beyond Antarctica?

I don't remember where I read that once certain modern organizations had the technology to reach a certain altitude and see the real shape of the world, they got scared and decided to keep it a secret.

Here is something I was thinking about last night: we are told that the north pole is a circle of ice, yet on Google Earth there is nothing like that to be seen?

 

[Bitbybit]

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Also it should be asked why, using this true analog method of measurement with a sextant, one gets different lengths for a mile if measured on a ground vs at the sea level.
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First of all, that image is incorrect. The rays from the sun and stars are so far away the rays can be considered parallell.
Second, whats a mile got to do with anything, the sextant gives you latitude. Not distance.
You measure the angle to the polar star and then you figure out where you are.
At the southern hemisphere, the polar star can not be seen.

 

[grav]

I don't remember where I read that once certain modern organizations had the technology to reach a certain altitude and see the real shape of the world, they got scared and decided to keep it a secret.

I'd like fo see that source. What modern organizations would have the technology to fly high enough to get a good view? 60 to 70 miles is, as far as we know, the limit to any rockets. A photo from the 1960s showed a flat horizon.

Satellites are a hoax. Google maps are Photoshop constructions which stitch together photos and videos taken from airplanes and drones. One of Google Map's planes is named Sophia, which was another name for Gaia in gnosticism.
There are videos which show glitches in the software. Or are they clues left intentionally by the head knockers?


View: https://youtu.be/OvQz1dqkjIc

 

[veeall]

First of all, that image is incorrect. The rays from the sun and stars are so far away the rays can be considered parallell.

I realized, i mentioned it in my subsequent post. I tried to refute the scientific theory from that angle, didn't work out.

Second, whats a mile got to do with anything, the sextant gives you latitude. Not distance.
You measure the angle to the polar star and then you figure out where you are.

Length of the mile is 1/60th of degree of latitude (measured using the angle of the north star), on sea level it's 1.8520km, if you go higher, the mile becomes shorter as you are approaching the northern star, which is close, as the sun and other stars.

Wikipedia states latitudes are measured relating to the center of the earth, in which case earth mile should get longer than nautical.
Wikipedia states latitude lines are of equal increments, which would be impossible with flat earth and close stars, hints toward concavity. So i don't know, my eyes see flat plane, with a sharp cutout and various atmospheric distortions at horizon. I don't hope to challenge science, the jargon would kill me at the spot.

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[Bitbybit]

First of all, that image is incorrect. The rays from the sun and stars are so far away the rays can be considered parallell.

I realized, i mentioned it in my subsequent post. I tried to refute the scientific theory from that angle, didn't work out.

Second, whats a mile got to do with anything, the sextant gives you latitude. Not distance.
You measure the angle to the polar star and then you figure out where you are.

Length of the mile is 1/60th of degree of latitude (measured using the angle of the north star), on sea level it's 1.8520km, if you go higher, the mile becomes shorter as you are approaching the northern star, which is close, as the sun and other stars.

Wikipedia states latitudes are measured relating to the center of the earth, in which case earth mile should get longer than nautical.
Wikipedia states latitude lines are of equal increments, which would be impossible with flat earth and close stars, hints toward concavity. So i don't know, my eyes see flat plane, with a sharp cutout and various atmospheric distortions at horizon. I don't hope to challenge science, the jargon would kill me at the spot.

Edited.

How would a spheric earth look with our eyes at the ground in your opinion?

I don't remember where I read that once certain modern organizations had the technology to reach a certain altitude and see the real shape of the world, they got scared and decided to keep it a secret.

I'd like fo see that source. What modern organizations would have the technology to fly high enough to get a good view? 60 to 70 miles is, as far as we know, the limit to any rockets. A photo from the 1960s showed a flat horizon.

Satellites are a hoax. Google maps are Photoshop constructions which stitch together photos and videos taken from airplanes and drones. One of Google Map's planes is named Sophia, which was another name for Gaia in gnosticism.
There are videos which show glitches in the software. Or are they clues left intentionally by the head knockers?


View: https://youtu.be/OvQz1dqkjIc

I am not a fan of google, but i am pretty sure the ”scanning effect” is because the cameras are zoomed in to get more and more details to sell

 

[veeall]

How would a spheric earth look with our eyes at the ground in your opinion?

No. How would checkerboard look on a ball? There are visual hints indicating flatness with straight lengthy parallel lines crossing over areas, non-tilted skyscrapers when observed from far, mountain ranges with tops of the same heights not appearing gradually lower the farther they are (that was actually tested by a youtuber).

Also there are different information depending on whom are you listening, there have been claims that that North Star Polaris is actually visible far into south of equator (in the Gleasons book), and that not all southern constellations are visible everywhere in southern hemisphere.

The rotation issue. A plane taking off from the North pole, flying toward south, should have to put up with gradually more violent western crosswind reaching few to five hundred meters per second (up to a thousand knots) at the equator, just because the atmosphere rotates along with the earth.

First time i've heard that there are no polar night in Antarctic was in my childhood, in soviet schooling system, while differentiating arctic from antarctic, It seemed controversial even back then, i remember a boy asking, how could it be, while mimicking the rotating ball with his hands. Teacher was like, yeah, but no.

Also, the notion that in a space program, all calculations are made relative to a stationary and flat earth, was known to these soviet teachers, though they could not provide a counterargument to the statement 'it doesn't matter'.

 

[Bitbybit]

In the ball model, How high above the ball would correspond to the height of a person, skyscraper and path of an airplane?

 

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polar night in Antarctic was in my childhood, in soviet schooling system, while differentiating arctic from antarctic, It seemed controversial even back then, i remember a boy asking, how could it be, while mimicking the rotating ball with his hands. Teacher was like, yeah, but no.

Also, the notion that in a space program, all calculations are made relative to a stationary and flat earth, was known to these soviet teachers, though they could not provide a counterargument to the statement 'it doesn't matter'.

Russian academicians, Soviet or not, always seem to be more open-minded and much more advanced than other nationalities. Anatoly Fomenco, for example, is one of the leading alt chronologists.

So I'm not surprised that flatearthism is quietly known in New Tartaria.

It's funny to, to see this site's abbreviation.
Sh, shh, hush up, don't spill the beans.
The sheeple must not know they live in a world of lies.

In the ball model, How high above the ball would correspond to the height of a person, skyscraper and path of an airplane?

no idea what your question is.
Are you asking for the height at which the curve is perceptible?
Which I don't think is answerable.

It just seems obvious that as you rise in altitude, the ball should shrink in size below you. Like a sci-fi movie where a planet gets smaller and smaller in the rear view mirror of the rocket ship.

 

[Bitbybit]

My feeling is the opposite, FE is primaru but bot only an american phenomena. Russian alternative researchers is open minded but i dont see them fallen into FE