Hidden Nature of the Moon

[JimDuyer]

I agree with the poster above who said that Steiner and Blavatsky are probably controlled opposition or shills for the PTB.
I like Dark Journalist. But he does seem to place a lot of faith in a few very strange pushers of information. I will still watch him.

As to the Moon, there were quite a few early authors who spoke of the time before there was a Moon in our sky:

A period in time in which the Earth was Moonless is probably one of the most remote recollections of mankind. But those days are remembered, they were indeed recorded, and by some of the same scholars that we appreciate today for their contributions to our historical record.


Democritus and Anaxagoras taught that there was a time when the Earth was without the Moon.


Democritus, born about 460 BC, was one of the two founders of ancient atomist theory. He elaborated a system originated by his teacher Leucippus into a materialist account of the natural world. The atomists held that there are smallest indivisible bodies from which everything else is composed, and that these move about in an infinite void. This sounds much like an early version of our understanding of atoms.


Democritus’ theory of perception depends on the claim that eidôla or images, thin layers of atoms, are constantly sloughed off from the surfaces of macroscopic bodies and carried through the air. These films of atoms shrink and expand; only those that shrink sufficiently can enter the eye. It is the impact of these on our sense organs that enables us to perceive. Visible properties of macroscopic objects, like their size and shape, are conveyed to us by these films, which tend to be distorted as they pass through greater distances in the air, since they are subject to more collisions with air atoms. (DK 68A135; Baldes 1975). Which sounds suspiciously like a very early version of the “holographic Universe” theory.


Anaxagoras, born about 500 BC, was a Pre-Socratic Greek philosopher. Born in Clazomenae at a time when Asia Minor was under the control of the Persian Empire, Anaxagoras came to Athens.

 

[rickmarty]

The 3D Matrix didn’t only consist of the Moon - which was just a relay station to impose an oppressive EM field on Earth - but was basically run from a regressive GF base around Saturn.

The technologies were manyfold and vast (e.g. having created the Saturn unnatural rings as antennas to emit powerful waves to the moon for control and powering), yet all of them based on relative low-tech since they used EM waves only - which as we know are unhealthy/destructive.

As for the moon itself, the Taygetans explained that it was using 12000 years old low-tech based on nuclear reactors and digital computers, but by now the Andromedans (who built the former Earth 3D Matrix) have more advanced technology. Though not from own creativity, which they as are only partially capable of, but from trading with their regressive Tall Gray masters.

 

[Memphis]

From the very childhood I knew that souls go to our Moon, which acts as a main repository and tool for reincarnation mechanism, set up by our creators. I've been trying to spread this idea among many acquaintances and even random people but almost none of them were ready to accept this idea.

It is curious to point out the fact that among those few people who speak out about the true nature of our Moon, most tend to present it in either neutral or negative way. Like as if we were slaves to its influence. I personally believe that it is the only way to get things done. I mean, how else could Gods bring up new civilizations? Imagine yourselves in their position - you create humans and give them some knowledge and power. How can you make sure that they grow into good beings? What if they turn to the "dark side"? It's not the first time I'm expressing this idea, but I am almost absolutely sure that Earth acts as a training camp for young souls, that go through this "life/training' to become better and go to higher worlds (other planets with more advanced life conditions). If a soul can't develop or degrades, it stays for another life-cycle, or maybe gets transformed/recycled into a different form or energy.

I have the same understanding of this world, that souls get trapped into a mechanism after death, like a false light. I know that this is true because I remember, I have memories about that, and remember other lives here on earth. Is like a never ending recycling of the same souls. Probably earth is some sort of prison, but I am not sure. And probably moon is the central body of the mechanism.
Also think earth is a training camp for souls, and only the bravest ones came here and decided to get into this trap. Because, actually, is difficult to escape this realm. The moon plays a central role in all this reality.

 

[blindvictory]

I wonder if you have read the Chani project? some interesting bits on the moon there... Another fascinating book I just stumbled onto in the internet archive is named "Text" named so because this is what the elite call their information while calling what the rest of us use as X-Texts holding only bits of truth... I'm on information overload, lol would love your thoughts. it shares that when they were using remote viewers is was discovered tis done through the spirit body. that part makes sense, they then put one into a faraday cage and the man was not able to leave the cage to view as his spirit body was trapped. armed with this the elite were able to put a man in cage near his death alongside a newly conceived babe and mother. controlled reincarnation. TEXT : Walter C Vetsch : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

 

[Quiahuitl]

I'm on information overload, lol would love your thoughts.

That's a very interesting book you've shared. I've seen similar info before, like the idea that science is being deliberately held back and so on. What has really blown my mind since coming across Martin Liedtke and subsequently this forum is the fact that advanced technology was widely used in our recent past. For example there are 'Ancient' structures made from concrete with metal reinforcement see here Collecting Historical clues for calendar manipulation

Possession is a big issue and most people don't realise a lot of what they think is being planted there by astral entities. Anyways, this is a bit off-topic.

I'm fascinated by the number of posts on this thread talking about how the Moon is where dead souls go. This is exactly what my Mexican Toltec teachers have been telling me for years. The Moon is the embodiment (i.e the physical body) of the land of the dead. You come from there before you were born and go back to there after you die. It's also where you go when you dream. The Nahuatl word for the Moon is 'Metztli' which also means dream within a dream.

The Sun meanwhile, is the combined energy of all the souls who have successfully escaped from the cycle of reincarnation. They have learnt how to resonate together so they feed each other energy instead of stealing each others energy.

 

[blindvictory]

That's a very interesting book you've shared. I've seen similar info before, like the idea that science is being deliberately held back and so on. What has really blown my mind since coming across Martin Liedtke and subsequently this forum is the fact that advanced technology was widely used in our recent past. For example there are 'Ancient' structures made from concrete with metal reinforcement see here Collecting Historical clues for calendar manipulation

Possession is a big issue and most people don't realise a lot of what they think is being planted there by astral entities. Anyways, this is a bit off-topic.

I'm fascinated by the number of posts on this thread talking about how the Moon is where dead souls go. This is exactly what my Mexican Toltec teachers have been telling me for years. The Moon is the embodiment (i.e the physical body) of the land of the dead. You come from there before you were born and go back to there after you die. The Sun meanwhile, is the combined energy of all the souls who have successfully escaped from the cycle of reincarnation. They have learnt how to resonate together so they feed each other energy instead of stealing each others energy.

flat earth British? I really appreciate how he includes links to source material... not sold on the earth being flat, however, I still look at all info with an open mind. the only thing we can be 100% sure if is that we have been lied too. i think the lie is due to space time, ive found a few items in different direction that all show that zero or micro gravity is outside our spacetime. quantum communication would be required and that crap bends my noodle. As far as the moon goes... 20 years ago I had the most frightening nightmare I've ever had. I think I was meant to remember it. its simple really, i was standing in front of a bright tunneled light surrounded by darkness and a voice told me to go into the light. Well, everything in me screamed no not to. So, i refused the voice snarled and the white light fragmented and shifted into jagged white demons surrounded and were dancing jumping and clawing at me. I woke up in my bed, shuddered a sigh but as soon as i walked across the room and was spoken to, I realized I was still asleep and couldn't wake up. I folded in on myself screaming at myself to wake up.... phone rang finally and woke me up... that's the only time that has ever happened. I have weird friggin dreams, some scarier in content but that one messed me up. they say that there was a time before the moon, high strangeness it and that moon of Saturn that looks far too much like the death star, lol

 

[mifletzet]

King Solomon reigned for 40 years c850 BCE.

Jewish tradition has it that for 10 out of those 40 years the Moon was phaseless i.e. there was a full Moon for 10 years as a sign of Divine favour.

 

[AntiSoof]

The moon can indeed represent the physical. It is our mother in body, as the sun is the father of the spiritual. So the moon is our ego, which stands in the way of us reaching the father, the spirit. Our passion (moon), ignorance and love of the moon holds us back. Osho also pointed to the moon. I only understand now, reading this from Gurdjieff. What is also said is that when the moon is in the sign of the sun during our birth, we can become healthy again. We should then do nothing but meditate and otherwise take it easy, so that our endocrine system can be restored and our oil can flow to our sanctity in our brain. The wedding is then when the oil in us reaches the highest in the head at the moment when the moon is in our zodiac sign. That's why people kept track of the stars? I'm not very sure, but it may be that ancient writings point to this: our enlightenment is when our spirit rises above matter. That may be a physical process.

That is fair enough. In that case let me list out some true abnormalities that I don't think have been discussed in this thread yet:

• The moon's center of gravity isn't where it should be, instead it is off-center from its expected gravitational center. Even mainstream sources can only speculate as to why this is the case, where anomalies are documented but paid little lip service as to how this could happen.
• The moon has uneven mass distribution, heavier on the near side. Again - mainstream arguments say this is due to the effect of tidal lock, but it is a theory just as much as anything else.
• While the circumference and width of impact craters on the moon wildly vary in size, their depth does not. No crater exceeds approximately 3400 meters in depth before it is "stopped" by something. The mainstream explanation of this is essentially "gravity"
• The moon is lacking in density - it should be heavier than it actually is.
• The moon makes its own water

Some further, though perhaps looser associations:


Source: Bee Goddess

More on Cybele found on this site:
SH Archive - Diana of Ephesus, or Artemis to the ancient Greeks
SH Archive - Ancient Genetics Factory: The Temple of Artemis
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Throughout ancient history we find repeated use of the beehive motif as representing the cycle of life, the building of a strong structure, and unity. The moon is just as popular a motif in ancient times, both have been venerated by many cultures in the past. Now to take things squarely into the speculative:

If you were part of a highly advanced race of beings who existed on Earth and had knowledge of a cyclical cataclysm - what would you do? How do you ensure that civilization would continue afterwards? You couldn't build a shelter on Earth - that would be counterproductive. You would want a structure that is near earth, but not too far away to make travel difficult. You would need it to be tidally locked, to ensure that it existed in harmony with earth's rotation. You would need it be extremely strong, also. Well it just so happens that a honeycomb structure is objectively the strongest possible design for protecting against anything, including impacts. With a strong layer of protection, you can build your infrastructure underneath in order to protect whoever needs it - hence the uneven distribution of mass, and relatively low density due to the honeycomb structure. You would need it to generate its own water, in order to survive and prosper while waiting out the cataclysm.


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Examine the symbol of the crescent moon as portrayed in ancient times. Apply the esoteric knowledge of the moon as the "rebirth" of our civilization after a cataclysm. Is this a moon with a star in it? Or is this actually representing a structure literally inside the moon? It is an interesting thought to entertain, at the very least.

"Is this a moon with a star in it?"
I think that's the sun above the moon. It seems to be imagined that if the sun and the moon are in the same position, then there is a special time. It may mean that if the moon is in the sign of how the sun was during our birth (or conception?) there is a special time, so different for every person.

 

[jonbecker03]

From the very childhood I knew that souls go to our Moon, which acts as a main repository and tool for reincarnation mechanism, set up by our creators. I've been trying to spread this idea among many acquaintances and even random people but almost none of them were ready to accept this idea.

It is curious to point out the fact that among those few people who speak out about the true nature of our Moon, most tend to present it in either neutral or negative way. Like as if we were slaves to its influence. I personally believe that it is the only way to get things done. I mean, how else could Gods bring up new civilizations? Imagine yourselves in their position - you create humans and give them some knowledge and power. How can you make sure that they grow into good beings? What if they turn to the "dark side"? It's not the first time I'm expressing this idea, but I am almost absolutely sure that Earth acts as a training camp for young souls, that go through this "life/training' to become better and go to higher worlds (other planets with more advanced life conditions). If a soul can't develop or degrades, it stays for another life-cycle, or maybe gets transformed/recycled into a different form or energy.

Perhaps you should get in touch with Linda Moulton Howe. Her ideas are quite similar to yours.

 

[Vulcani]

flat earth British? I really appreciate how he includes links to source material... not sold on the earth being flat, however, I still look at all info with an open mind. the only thing we can be 100% sure if is that we have been lied too. i think the lie is due to space time, ive found a few items in different direction that all show that zero or micro gravity is outside our spacetime. quantum communication would be required and that crap bends my noodle. As far as the moon goes... 20 years ago I had the most frightening nightmare I've ever had. I think I was meant to remember it. its simple really, i was standing in front of a bright tunneled light surrounded by darkness and a voice told me to go into the light. Well, everything in me screamed no not to. So, i refused the voice snarled and the white light fragmented and shifted into jagged white demons surrounded and were dancing jumping and clawing at me. I woke up in my bed, shuddered a sigh but as soon as i walked across the room and was spoken to, I realized I was still asleep and couldn't wake up. I folded in on myself screaming at myself to wake up.... phone rang finally and woke me up... that's the only time that has ever happened. I have weird friggin dreams, some scarier in content but that one messed me up. they say that there was a time before the moon, high strangeness it and that moon of Saturn that looks far too much like the death star, lol

I’m in agreement that the famed and beloved “white tunnel of light” is shifty as hell. I will certainly not be going anywhere near that reincarnation/memory wipe trap. Amazing you had this dream so long ago before anyone was discussing how fishy the white light is- fascinating topic. I think that voluntarily entering the light serves as consent to get recycled on Earth again, though uninformed consent hardly seems fair. Deception abounds- as above, so below. Lies here and lies there.

 

[feralimal]

I’m in agreement that the famed and beloved “white tunnel of light” is shifty as hell. I will certainly not be going anywhere near that reincarnation/memory wipe trap. Amazing you had this dream so long ago before anyone was discussing how fishy the white light is- fascinating topic. I think that voluntarily entering the light serves as consent to get recycled on Earth again, though uninformed consent hardly seems fair. Deception abounds- as above, so below. Lies here and lies there.

The soul trap people too are no bastions of truth either. The idea is not something that can be proven.

 

[Vulcani]

The soul trap people too are no bastions of truth either. The idea is not something that can be proven.

Proven? Of course it can’t be proven, nothing of a religious-type nature can be. I’m curious who you’re referring to, if you don’t want to say that’s fine but what do you consider them to be lying about? Or is it just more you disagree and find them to be wrong as opposed to lying?

 

[feralimal]

Proven? Of course it can’t be proven, nothing of a religious-type nature can be. I’m curious who you’re referring to, if you don’t want to say that’s fine but what do you consider them to be lying about? Or is it just more you disagree and find them to be wrong as opposed to lying?

I'm thinking of Mark from forever conscious, Dan from overwatch, Wayne Bush, etc. I don't say they are lying or malicious. But Mark certainly has a level of religious certainty that is unmerited. He says that he himself was guided to the soul trap information, but then he goes through NDE accounts of people who also think they were guided only he knows better somehow. It's an inconsistent position.

And anything that is not objective and unverifiable (ie anything metaphysical) cannot be known. You might have a personal experience (eg an NDE), and you can express your experience, but no one else can share that experience with you. If you say you know there is life after death, or that life after death is a trap or whatever, you do not know, even if you say "I know". At the least, it's poor use of language, and risks becoming a misleading religion with articles of faith.

 

[MM1966]

I wonder if you have read the Chani project? some interesting bits on the moon there... Another fascinating book I just stumbled onto in the internet archive is named "Text" named so because this is what the elite call their information while calling what the rest of us use as X-Texts holding only bits of truth... I'm on information overload, lol would love your thoughts. it shares that when they were using remote viewers is was discovered tis done through the spirit body. that part makes sense, they then put one into a faraday cage and the man was not able to leave the cage to view as his spirit body was trapped. armed with this the elite were able to put a man in cage near his death alongside a newly conceived babe and mother. controlled reincarnation. TEXT : Walter C Vetsch : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Wow...I clicked on your link to the TEXT book and it was quite a read. I spent all my spare time over the last 2 days reading it and just finished... Funny thing is when I got to the last 30 pages or so, my tablet started moving the pages by itself and random screens were popping up out of nowhere non-stop, as if someone/something did not want me to continue. Thank you so much for the referral and link.

 

[nightrider_2000]

Has anyone looked at the fact that maybe the moon was here first and the earth kind of took the moons place and displaced it? All our planets and the moon is round, but when you look at earth without the oceans it looks more like an asteroid. Maybe Earth is from somewhere else and it displaced the moon taking its orbit from it

 

[TheOmniInterestGuy]

That's a given. There's no reason to believe anything, and metaphysical and occult stuff is very suspect. At the same time, it's important to collect available data, if it exists, and don't ignore it completely just because there's no direct way to verify it.

I wouldnt go so far as claiming all metaphysical stuff bullshit.
Its possible to release your spirit from your body.
I experienced it myself a few times.
Lucid dreams are also part of that stuff in my opinion.