SH Archive Nuclear Weapons: do they exist or not?

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Username: CitizenShip
Date: 2020-08-09 10:39:34
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I was thinking this with the Lebanon blast, everyone saying it was a nuke, then why do lebonions still have their hair???
 
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Username: Tool18
Date: 2020-08-09 11:16:24
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It definitely wasn't a nuke, looked nothing like a nuclear weapon
 
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Username: CitizenShip
Date: 2020-08-09 11:21:03
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Conventional for sure, that compression wave was something else, massive crater should not really be there as the blast should take the least path of resistance, ie up and not down and through!
 
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Username: DanfromMN
Date: 2020-08-09 16:09:35
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Nukes aren't radioactive. Chernobyl is THRIVING. Japan's power plant? Hows things there at the moment?

Look up who Galen Windsor is.
 
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Username: CitizenShip
Date: 2020-08-09 17:49:09
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Yes a quick look through google earths historical imagery shows no damage to the surrounding foliage(organic materiel), although i have now heard that plants are somehow more resilient to said radiation but humans not so much, i smell a rat as they say!
 
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Username: Hipophoralcu
Date: 2020-08-10 10:19:58
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Because that only happens in hollywood movies. Nukes are very efficient, they convert all but a single digit percentage of the splittable material to energy and the remaining stuff is either vaporized by the released energy or thrown away on a big area. Nukes leave a definitive, measurable radiation behind, but so does an x ray. Only cobalt and dirty bombs have dangerous after effects. That 60 years down the line you get cancer, well, you still cant really prove it was the nuke radiation or something else in the next 60 years.
 
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Username: CitizenShip
Date: 2020-08-10 11:12:03
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No not just in movies but the official narrative too,

"Then my hair started falling out, and my gums started bleeding. I was constantly exhausted, always having to lie down.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki: Women survivors of the atomic bombs

from this article, i also remember bbc show making much fanfare about this as a direct symptom of radiation sickness and showing that this had taken affect before the sun had set on that day.
 
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Username: Magnetic
Date: 2020-08-10 13:32:45
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Radiation poisoning was not mentioned until months later as an afterthought. There was no deformities in children born after and the cities are occupied with healthy folks. There are no nukes and radiation poisoning associated with this hoax.
 
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Username: asatiger1966
Date: 2020-08-10 22:16:12
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If The Southern Poverty law Center hates VT then its a badge of honor. The Co-Founder was my commanding Officer. Colonel David Hackworth. Yes it is a fact that in order to be the largest "Open Source" Intelligence Agency in the world one must sow 30-40 percent of deniable information.

They do sit in on many countries meetings as registered diplomats. Countries talk to them because they are in the business of honor, loyalty, trust and America always. If you had read their disclaimer, that says boldly "If you are not in the intelligence community then this website is not for you because you will not understand it"

If you are a bad actor then VT will say so. One should consider what they say but what they do not say is overwhelming.
 
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Username: CitizenShip
Date: 2020-08-10 22:57:42
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I did not know they were so villified by almost all other media types and special groups.

I can only speak for myself and that is the lack of any real evidence of early nukes, the faking of the mid time nuke tests at bikini atol and then nukes going underground, firebombed Hiroshima looking more like dresden.

Then there is the fallout story, everything dead in a certain radius which gets more survivable with distance, not the case at chernobyl or fukushima, so there is something very fishy going on.

If they were faking the old ones why will the new ones not be fake too, they would only be faked if they don't work.

I would just like to say that i have read a good few of your post and think that your wisdom and Zen attitude is impressive
 
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Username: asatiger1966
Date: 2020-08-11 03:26:58
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Think you for your kind words I was of the impression that any club that I belonged to was not worth joining.

The games played by most people in powerful positions is sickening. Your right, I was not at any of the early "Atomic" bomb drops or test. No one that talked to me over the years had that experience.

The Waring factions often "fake" events to send messages, so the event could be taken different ways by different people. This game is played on many levels.

Chernobyl I have no knowledge about, but the lack of dead people for 100 years is not concerning to me because of the event its self was not a bomb parsec.

Fukashima is a different matter. One of our allies did not want the Japanese to sell enriched uranium to Iran. The Japanese had signed a contract to do exactly that. So a boutique bomb is designed just for that site. Again the bomb that set off the reactor failure was quite small and there was no need to hide the radiation footprint.

Thank you
 
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Username: Hipophoralcu
Date: 2020-08-11 06:25:59
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Because radiation poisoning happens in reactor disasters, not atomic bombs. How do you leave behind deadly radiation after the explosion if you converted all but a small percentage of the radiating material to energy and vaporized the rest with a fireball? You dont. You leave a detectable fingerprint of radiation and thats it.
The two-headed turtles and two-cored dandellions are what happens in reactor disasters, not after nukes going off.

The thing with nukes is that they are in reality very far from the destructive power everyone thinks they have. They are just big bombs left over from the era without sattelite guided missiles capable of hitting a 1,5x1,5m window from 1000 miles away, so missing the target would be less of a problem.
 
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Username: Magnetic
Date: 2020-08-11 13:34:45
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gordon duff of vt admitted that 40 % of veterans today is disinfo. i think the number is much higher.
there is radiation in the chernoble area confirmed by a wild and interesting experimentor on youtube. he takes his radiation device around with him and checks areas for it. some areas are very hot like the tractors used to clean up the area. most areas are safe however. here is his channel. he is a bit of a mad scientist experimentor and lived in the radioactive area illegally. kreosan english.
 
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Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2020-08-15 23:15:39
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I agree, the reported cause should never create such a crater. Looks like possibly another underground suitcase device. As has been used in many, many, events around the world. The wierd thing is, none of the code words that are used to signal such, are present in any reporting I saw.
 
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Username: Magnetic
Date: 2020-08-16 14:38:58
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Military explosives and perhaps EM weapons that maximize their destructive capability use the principle of maximum impulse in a very shortened period. There was a sharp earthquake impulse that set off the final explosion just like those used in military explosive weapons. Seismic devices should have captured this impulse.
 
Thought you would find this worth a thought.


So, it was impossible to bring the WTC Towers down by any kind of traditional controlled demolition.

The same thing could be said about the WTC building # 7 and of the Sears Tower in Chicago. Either of them was constructed using similar thick double-walled steel frame that was impossible to break at once due to reasons described above.

However, in accordance with the US laws governing construction of skyscrapers buildings designers had to submit some satisfactorily demolition project before their construction project could be approved by the Department of Buildings. No one could be allowed to build a skyscraper that can't be demolished in the future.

This is the main point of the skyscrapers' in-built nuclear demolition features.

Ironically, such a nuclear demolition scheme of a skyscraper is not meant to actually demolish the respective skyscraper, especially considering that no one has any practical experience in demolishing skyscrapers by such means - it is only intended to convince the Department of Buildings to permit the skyscraper's construction whatsoever.

It appears that all designers and proponents of such nuclear demolition schemes sincerely hope that their ideas would not be put to use during their life-time.

Anyhow, "Controlled Demolition Inc." began to study possibilities of demolishing modern skyscrapers by underground nuclear explosions at the end of 60s, at request of the then New York Sate Governor Nelson Rockefeller - when it became necessary to get a legal approval from the New York Department of Buildings for the WTC Twin Towers construction.


After some research, a final solution was found and approved by the Department of Buildings and "Controlled Demolition Inc." got its nuclear demolition know-how patented.

You can not make this stuff up. Read the whole article below.

Nuclear Demolition of Skyscrapers

Each one of us knows so little. A case of "The more I know, the less I know"
As this could be considered a plausibility by some readers here, I can say all the points listed on that site are circumstantial. In fact nothing in this thread I would consider as any kind of concrete proof of existence of explosive detonation based nuclear weapons.

This includes your first hand experience with your friend who you claim was a scientist and involved in designer nuclear weapons.

No disrespect to you, but I cannot ascertain what said friend/acquaintance really thought of you, whether he respected you enough he would tell you the honest truth. And if he was telling the truth, I did not read anywhere where you have mentioned they were small detonation nuclear type weapons. perhaps some sort of pocket radiation microwave type weapon, but still deadly?

A built to scale mini nuclear bomb, suitcase nuke sounds ridiculous, and we are far from seeing any true semblance of fact other than strictly by your word of a friends word. Again no disrespect.

Why wouldn't TPTB have pushed a demolishing nuke type patent with generic faces to bring legitimacy?

Also legislation that mandates buildings to be designed to be more easily demolished≠those were so that mini nuke bombs can explode them down.

I can rationalize the mini nuclear applications "designer" type to even be similar to the small modular reactors as authorized in a Trump E.O. here Executive Order on Promoting Small Modular Reactors for National Defense and Space Exploration – The White House
 
As this could be considered a plausibility by some readers here, I can say all the points listed on that site are circumstantial. In fact nothing in this thread I would consider as any kind of concrete proof of existence of explosive detonation based nuclear weapons.

This includes your first hand experience with your friend who you claim was a scientist and involved in designer nuclear weapons.

No disrespect to you, but I cannot ascertain what said friend/acquaintance really thought of you, whether he respected you enough he would tell you the honest truth. And if he was telling the truth, I did not read anywhere where you have mentioned they were small detonation nuclear type weapons. perhaps some sort of pocket radiation microwave type weapon, but still deadly?

A built to scale mini nuclear bomb, suitcase nuke sounds ridiculous, and we are far from seeing any true semblance of fact other than strictly by your word of a friends word. Again no disrespect.

Why wouldn't TPTB have pushed a demolishing nuke type patent with generic faces to bring legitimacy?

Also legislation that mandates buildings to be designed to be more easily demolished≠those were so that mini nuke bombs can explode them down.

I can rationalize the mini nuclear applications "designer" type to even be similar to the small modular reactors as authorized in a Trump E.O. here Executive Order on Promoting Small Modular Reactors for National Defense and Space Exploration – The White House

This is an old post, I think the friend you were referring to was a nuclear engineer, Georgia Tech. He was responsible for designing the power plants that were installed in the first few subs. The patients were in his control. He did not design Weapons'. One of the many indelibly marked phrases that was made clear on occasion was " never Lie". It could be fatal, better to talk less and listen.

What were the reasons behind any actions the rulers put in place? What did he think of me, LOL I was there to keep him alive one would image he thought highly of me. He lived while in my presence.
 
While on the topic of friends: the point of this comment is to contribute a personal story to the mass body of the discussion overall.

I know some people, who know a guy (that they trust at least), who they believe "witnessed" nuclear testing sometime in the 20th century, when that was a big deal.

The people I know provide the fact that their friend suffered eye damage from his participation in the "nuclear testing", and was subsequently well taken care of by their government, as a result of the eye injury, as evidence that the nuclear events during said alleged testing must have been "real".

My obvious question follows:
  • Could the eye damage have resulted from intense heat (indeed a form of radiation)--or any other effects (even wind, debris, or any kinds of fields)--accompanying any kind of intense or huge explosion or testing, not necessarily a "nuclear weapon"?
My thoughts: I don't think the people I know have any kind of solid reason to believe that the eye damage was in particular caused by a "nuclear weapon".
  • They were told a narrative that came with its own apparent supporting evidence, as insufficient as it may be.
  • They did not have any reason to doubt the story given to them, much less their government, their friend, or the particular technology in the story.
    • The friend, his direct coworkers, and his doctors may well have all believed the eye damage was due to a nuclear weapon test (even if they did not require much convincing evidence to believe so). (My comment: a humongous explosion along with light, blast wind, and a double mushroom cloud of smoke is enough evidence, in a typical witness' view at that time, right?)
  • The story does nonetheless help to bolster their belief in the existence of nuclear weapons.
    • Logic seems able to reach an impenetrable wall of disbelief when confronted with such deeply embedded notions (along the lines of "it's just not possible, there's this person"), or at least this was my experience discussing the topic with the people I know.
 
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This is an old post, I think the friend you were referring to was a nuclear engineer, Georgia Tech. He was responsible for designing the power plants that were installed in the first few subs. The patients were in his control. He did not design Weapons'. One of the many indelibly marked phrases that was made clear on occasion was " never Lie". It could be fatal, better to talk less and listen.

What were the reasons behind any actions the rulers put in place? What did he think of me, LOL I was there to keep him alive one would image he thought highly of me. He lived while in my presence.
This lines up good with my theory, that the nuclear weapons hoax was really just to demonize the basically free unlimited energy produced by nuclear power plants.

Radium, uranium, and other natural occurring substances are banned entirely in my opinion for oil and natural gas alternatives. You can search radium on this site and will find some good info about it's demonization early 20th century.

Its possible he was not lying to you, his specialty was power generation though. Surely he knew all the chemistry for the substances, mechanical engineering of the engine, the steam system involved, all the parts for that system to function etc; that doesn't mean he wasn't shown the same production video every other enlisted G.I. is shown, probably sat through several presentations/lectures, talked about the dangers. His specialty was not in the application of igniting a 10,000 lb bomb in such a manner to cause explosions = to 20,000 tons of TNT.

I appreciate you taking the time to respond. One question during your time serving any mining regions come to mind you know of?
 
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