SH Archive Tartarian City of Norumbega was conquered to become Washington, DC

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Username: jd755
Date: 2019-01-13 23:57:10
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The british royal family is really german.
The name was changed from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the English Windsor (from "Windsor Castle") in 1917 because of anti-German sentiment in the British Empire during World War I.

Another thing regarding the siting or should that be sighting of DC on a previously existing city is I have long felt the same with the city of london (that sits within the current city called london) and the vatican. This triad of control centres feel like they are 'nodes' in a control grid of some kind suppressing the will of people so they, we forget who we are.
Why is beyond my fathoming.

 

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Username: trole
Date: 2019-04-01 21:18:43
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New member here.

Very intresting things in this thread that i never heard of before. ( whole site actually )

What i was wondering and hopefully someone can clear this up. After reading this thread i asked myself. if some of these things were already here and covered up, who built them. With the Church going after the Knights Templar, them fleeing somewhere, with old world treasures. All the info coming out of Oak island with the Templar influence there, and other places in America, i believe they ended up in the north America. is there any connection with them and Tartary. Just curious of there connection if any to the America that was here before our America.

This might not be the right place for this question, i apologize in advance if its too of topic. still finding my way around.

 

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Username: Plissken
Date: 2019-04-01 22:43:44
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Welcome Trole!

With the Church going after the Knights Templar, them fleeing somewhere, with old world treasures. All the info coming out of Oak island with the Templar influence there, and other places in America, i believe they ended up in the north America. is there any connection with them and Tartary. Just curious of there connection if any to the America that was here before our America.

There are some articles about who might have built these structures to get you started. I personally haven't seen the Templar and Tartary idea developed on this sight but maybe KB or one of the more senior members can say for sure. Would love to see one...

Legendary City of Norumbega
Norumbega- Washington monument and the Roman Empire
Kings of Florida
Similar Buildings around the World
Tartaria Quivira Regnum

Plissken

 

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Username: fabiorem
Date: 2019-04-01 22:59:23
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There is this oddity here:
Flag of Novorossiya - Wikipedia

The flag of the rebels in Ukraine, is very similar to the Confederate flag of the US.
According to Wikipedia: Gubarev has since stated that the inspiration for the flag came from "banners used by Cossacks who reclaimed the New Russian territories from Tatars and Turks for Russia in the 18th century"; however, according to Alexey Eremenko of the Moscow Times, no Cossacks ever used a flag resembling the one chosen.

So, cossacks took land from tartarians and used these banners, but the russian media says the cossacks never used this flag. Maybe it was a tartarian flag? And maybe, the Secession War was against remnants of the tartarians in the US, and hence, they used the same flag, but with stars on it?
If Russia was allied to France, then it only expanded after the Napolenic Wars, and in the 18th century, the history of the cossacks would be different from what we are told. Maybe the cossacks were allied with the tartarians, and not the other way around, leading to this confusion.

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-04-02 00:22:25
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There is this oddity here:
Flag of Novorossiya - Wikipedia

The flag of the rebels in Ukraine, is very similar to the Confederate flag of the US.
According to Wikipedia: Gubarev has since stated that the inspiration for the flag came from "banners used by Cossacks who reclaimed the New Russian territories from Tatars and Turks for Russia in the 18th century"; however, according to Alexey Eremenko of the Moscow Times, no Cossacks ever used a flag resembling the one chosen.

So, cossacks took land from tartarians and used these banners, but the russian media says the cossacks never used this flag. Maybe it was a tartarian flag? And maybe, the Secession War was against remnants of the tartarians in the US, and hence, they used the same flag, but with stars on it?
If Russia was allied to France, then it only expanded after the Napolenic Wars, and in the 18th century, the history of the cossacks would be different from what we are told. Maybe the cossacks were allied with the tartarians, and not the other way around, leading to this confusion.

I guess I thought the Cossacks were the the Golden Horde (or part of them) of Tartary...

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-04-02 00:25:27
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This is definitely an interesting flag resemblance.

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-04-02 01:03:27
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I looked this up because a town near me (in the US northwest) is named Belgrade after Serbian railroad financiers. (Late 1800s)
Croatian Soldiers in American CIvil War 1861-1865 genealogy project
Looks like they were actually pretty involved. I never knew. Actually on second pass looks like Slovenia mostly.

this is interesting
The Day When the Serbian and U.S. Flags Flew Together Over the White House | U.S. Embassy in Serbia

The United States of America officially celebrated July 28, 1918 as “Serbia Day.” On July 27, U.S. Secretary of State Robert Lansing called on every American citizen to, “gather on Sunday, July 28 in their churches in order to express their sympathies toward this enslaved nation (Serbia) and their oppressed brothers...
Other than the American and Serbian flags, only one other has been flown over the White House. That was the French flag, on the 131th anniversary of the fall of the Bastille, on July 14, 1920.

Their flags aren’t similar (except the old one with the doubleheaded eagle or whatever) but perhaps the above are lumped together as ‘ Croatia’.

 

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Date: 2019-04-02 02:49:21
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There is this oddity here:
Flag of Novorossiya - Wikipedia

Novorossiya="New Russia"?
Interesting connection to the CSA flag.
Welcome to stolenhistory!

 

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Username: AnthroposRex
Date: 2019-06-17 17:26:37
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Here is a cutout from a 1719 Map of the DC+ area. Anyone recognizes any of those city names in the vicinity of the current Washington DC?

• Clavertton?
• Bristol?

What about Dorinton?

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Nice Names
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Carte Des Pays connus sous le nom de Canada

+ 1 additional map: West Indies

That Henry Iames Town is interesting.
Spelling with an I instead of a J sure seems "Roman"

 

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Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2019-06-17 18:15:40
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That Henry Iames Town is interesting.
Spelling with an I instead of a J sure seems "Roman"

Just from memory, the official story has "I" turning into "J" sometime in the 1400s. Oddly around the same time it seems that the J changed to a 1 on the dates.

 

[N.D. Magoo]

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Username: N.D. Magoo
Date: 2019-07-24 17:38:16
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Some thoughts on the possible etymology of the name "Norumbega" --

"Nor" = prefix denoting "north" universally in Romanesque languages
"um" = "a" or "an" in Portuguese
"bega" = "vega" with the B/V flexion in Spanish/Portuguese; meaning a "large fertile grassy plain or valley" in "Spain or Spanish America"

So "Norumbega" roughly translates to "North of the plain/valley".

 

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Username: Nova Scotian
Date: 2019-11-01 12:40:09
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In my opinion the most likely candidate for the city of Norumbega is St John, New Brunswick. Overlay the old and new maps and the great river on which Norumbega is situated is approximately on the St John River. St John, NB is overflowing with amazing masonry and mudflood evidence. Washington DC is too far south.

 

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Username: ShemTov
Date: 2019-11-02 01:36:21
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In my opinion the most likely candidate for the city of Norumbega is St John, New Brunswick. Overlay the old and new maps and the great river on which Norumbega is situated is approximately on the St John River. St John, NB is overflowing with amazing masonry and mudflood evidence. Washington DC is too far south.

personally i think i would have put it here farther up river where there are easy resources, easy and flexible transportation so you can defend it easily and surprise your enemies.

the micmacs want it back badly as it is specifically included in the sikniktuk land claim

 

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Username: Madwack
Date: 2019-11-02 07:01:18
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I found this video a few years back and thought it was kinda odd....think y'all should see it.

The guy talks to his staff...lol

 

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Username: Timeshifter
Date: 2019-11-02 07:45:39
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Here is a cutout from a 1719 Map of the DC+ area. Anyone recognizes any of those city names in the vicinity of the current Washington DC?

• Clavertton?
• Bristol?

What about Dorinton?

View attachment 12349

Nice Names
View attachment 12379
Carte Des Pays connus sous le nom de Canada

+ 1 additional map: West Indies

We have a Bridlington on the East Yorkshire coast here in the UK!

 

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Username: Nova Scotian
Date: 2019-11-02 11:22:22
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personally i think i would have put it here farther up river where there are easy resources, easy and flexible transportation so you can defend it easily and surprise your enemies.

the micmacs want it back badly as it is specifically included in the sikniktuk land claim

It's certainly possible it was located farther up river. However I don't see how, up river, it would have any more or less access to resources and transportation, and a city is not going to surprise enemies.

Either way, the St John river is in the right position to be the "Rio Grande" on which Norumbega sat.

 

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2019-11-02 12:58:42
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Well.
We know that entire area around the (now) Great Lakes was teeming with people. Iroquois nation...
It might have been a huge practically megalopolis in that entire area and all aling the coasts. That old map where cities are just LINING the coasts and waterways.
It MIGHT be, that the actual target of your search is at the bottom of the ocean. Or lake. Or OBLITERATED. Or whatever.
We conveniently forget the sometimes wildly changing landscape in our searches. Things go up... Things go down... Right, left, shimmy, shimmy. Let's all do the zombie shuffle.

 

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Username: ShemTov
Date: 2019-11-02 13:39:21
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It's certainly possible it was located farther up river. However I don't see how, up river, it would have any more or less access to resources and transportation, and a city is not going to surprise enemies.

Either way, the St John river is in the right position to be the "Rio Grande" on which Norumbega sat.

it is a convenient choke point in the river just above the point where the tide/salty water stops. the river has massive fish migrations at various times of the season. when we were bolting the mactaquac dam back together the flood lights would attract unimaginable numbers of fish behind the dam and we were perpetually chasing aboriginal canadians out of that restricted area.
i do not think game would like living near saint john. i certainly did not and the cherry brook zoo is famous for having disgruntled animals. its extra windy and eric the reds flowing fjord makes it worse.

 

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Username: Nova Scotian
Date: 2019-11-02 14:59:37
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it is a convenient choke point in the river just above the point where the tide/salty water stops. the river has massive fish migrations at various times of the season. when we were bolting the mactaquac dam back together the flood lights would attract unimaginable numbers of fish behind the dam and we were perpetually chasing aboriginal canadians out of that restricted area.
i do not think game would like living near saint john. i certainly did not and the cherry brook zoo is famous for having disgruntled animals. its extra windy and eric the reds flowing fjord makes it worse.

Or maybe the city was located near the #1 highway for ease of transportation?? Perhaps Norumbega was situated at the ferry terminal to Digby for convenience of getting to Digby.

The maps and historical record show a completely geography and climate. I think you are overlooking that part of the equation.

 

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Username: ShemTov
Date: 2019-11-02 15:25:26
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Or maybe the city was located near the #1 highway for ease of transportation?? Perhaps Norumbega was situated at the ferry terminal to Digby for convenience of getting to Digby.

The maps and historical record show a completely geography and climate. I think you are overlooking that part of the equation.

i do not think i have overlooked climate. i have lived in the city. it is terrible in winter. why wuld you think a large population would live in primitive housing on such an exposed location. what is the benefit. shooting the rapids? its a terribly dangerous place in a boat. also there is no water to drink.