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Tortoise/Turtle tombstones are fairly common in Korea.
I would see them all over.
This one is in Seoul, and is not in Hangul, but some form of Chinese; which is also not-so-uncommon as you'd think.
SH Archive Tartarian Ruins of Mongolia and Karakorum
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I would see them all over.
This one is in Seoul, and is not in Hangul, but some form of Chinese; which is also not-so-uncommon as you'd think.
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Wow. Same type and style.
This confirms the link between modern Koreans and "Coreans," and also their Tartarian/Mongolian roots.
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Who did the map, might help me to find it online.
He says in the first minute or so but I couldn't understand what he was saying (accent). I did make out him saying it was a composite map from ??? in 1450.
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(Composite map) Mappemonde dress es en 1450, par Fra Mauro cosmographe Venetien. Par order d'Alphonse V. Roide Portugal. Publiee pour la premiere fois de la grandeur de l'original avec toutes les Legendes par Le Vicomte de Santarem 1854. J. J. Feuquieres, lith. Schwaerzle Sculp. Pl. I-VI in SearchWorks catalog
(Composite map) Mappemonde dress es en 1450, par Fra Mauro cosmographe Venetien. Par order d'Alphonse V. Roide Portugal. Publiee pour la premiere fois de la grandeur de l'original avec toutes les Legendes par Le Vicomte de Santarem 1854. J. J. Feuquieres, lith. Schwaerzle Sculp. Pl. I-VI in SearchWorks catalog
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If it is at all reliable, charting out some of those waterways would show where to find the major ruins of "civilization".
Yes, that word deserves quotes.
JON LEVI (youtube) shows improbability of official stories regarding incredible constructions.
The molten-rock to me looks similar to the aftermath of the Dresden "firestorm"...and of the many pictures of the American Civil War (with so so many bricks appearing molten, scattered with unusual/impossible evenness, and totally insufficient number of canon balls to have caused such uniform massive damage).
US Army reported numerous bodies found in underground bunkers of Dresden were 'baked' in temperatures apparently reaching 1,600deg. However, the clothing is perfectly fine on the corpses, as is their hair. They are simply cooked, instantaneously, as if in a gigantic microwave oven. The same is true of nearly all of the bodies found in the streets of Dresden (go look at the many curious pictures) --- the bodies are baked, as if flash-microwaved, with clothing and hair all perfectly intact.
Betcha the weapon somehow involved Pompeii.
The Jesuits' (TPTSNB) latest weapon-mongering is all about 5G in low-atmosphere...the Elon Musk / STARLINK trilla-watt zapper web that is to span tens of thousands of "satellites". See relation to Arthur Firstenberg INVISIBLE RAINBOW which correlates all major disease outbreaks as immediately following major electrifications on earth (power grid, RADAR, milsat, and now 5G). Very interesting, as we are first-most electrical beings.
If "the weapon" that ThePowersThatShouldNotBe is some kind of energy device, as I think it is, I bet it operates at microwaves or higher. ConspiraOrg has a good, big page comparing photos of microwave weapon attack sites.
I find it interesting that modern Mongolians have no legend of a Genghis Khan from their ranks and that only 3-5% of the population (mostly ethnic Kazakhs) practices Islam, which was the Mongol Empire's primary religion...the Gobi Desert is also one of the most inhospitable places on Earth and that makes up a large chunk of modern Mongolia...I would guess that modern Mongolia was a piece of Tartaria/Mongolia's empire and bore the namesake due to it being a location of certain tribes of the empire stemming from that region hundreds of years ago
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Here is an interesting video on strange architecture in the Gobi desert, since I figured there has to have been something there at one point, right? Pretty sure the massive circular dial used to be something else entirely.
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I agree with you regarding Scythia/Tartaria becoming multi-cultural. Scythia was certainly comprised of the White Israelite tribes who escaped their captivity and moved to the northeastern side of The Black Sea. And Scythia later became known as Tartary. As it expanded westward, northward, eastward and southward, and became known as Grand Tartary, its people mixed with those of other nations/races and mixed peoples.
Finns were considered to be Mongols until as recently as 1960's.
"Most people are surprised when they discover that until as recently as the 1960s it was widely accepted that the Finns originally came from Mongolia. But the Mongolian ‘Origins of the Finns’ is a controversial topic in Finland. The Western-looking academic elite have done all that they can to suppress it and academics that still contend that Finns have ‘Mongoloid origins’ are cast into the wilderness in a ferocious dispute."
Even American textbooks taught that Finns were Mongolian. (Source)
It was not until Jan 4th 1908 that United States District court of Minnesota decided that Finns were "white", not "yellow".
"On January 4, 1908, John Svan and sixteen other Finnish immigrants were on trial in Duluth, Minnesota to determine whether or not they were white enough to become naturalized citizens. The Federal district prosecutor John Sweet argued before the United States District Court of Minnesota represented by Judge W.A. Cant that Finnish immigrants were yellow and therefore could not be citizens. Sweet’s argument was based on the Naturalization Act of 1790 which allowed naturalization to “any alien, being a free white person.” Mr Sweet believed the Finns were yellow because their Mongolian descendants were not “native” or white Europeans."
In general Finns have no clue where they come from. We are taught in school that we had no culture before Swedes "civilized us" around mid 1800's. Some have theory that we came from around the "bend of the river Volga" as the saying goes. Interestingly that area is now covered by the Rybinsk Reservoir, 2nd largest artificial lake in Europe which covers ancient city of Mologa along with 663 villages. When the water is low you can still see parts of the city above the surface.
To make things even more confusing, there is evidence of a pyramid building high "white" culture of Tarim in China, near Gobi desert, area of interest in this thread. There is some info about well preserved mummies which have been found there but the information is covered up by the Chinese government, perhaps the reason is that those mummies don't resemble Asian features at all? They are also much taller in stature. As an interesting side note, the way they are preserved is mind-blowing:
" In effect, the mummies were not what you would call real mummies, in the sense that they were not embalmed. They had been preserved in an amazing way. They had been placed in the ground, which had been subjected to a unique weather system. Heat, aridity, and bitter winter cold, mixed with a salty soil, had preserved them better than other mummies found around the world. Even the clothing was still perfectly recognizable."
Finns used and still use certain ancient "Tartarian" and "Mongol" symbols, like Swastika. In fact, Finnish air force used Swastika until this year.
Just some food for the thought.
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The following seems to be the continuation after the Boxer Rebellion thread.
SH Archive - 1899-1901: Boxer Rebellion. What are they hiding?
According to Fomenko after the fall of Pugachev, Tartary began to slowly lose ground. Siberia was renamed: "Russian Tartary", however it can be seen from these three maps of 1789, 1818, 1820, that the Tatar Qing dynasty still retains a good part of the territory including Mongolia and Tibet, while independent Tartary seems to be out of Russian control even, bordering Persia, the Mughal Empire.
Nicholas I of Russia, Alexander II (1855-1881), the man who supported Lincoln against the Confederates. He was forced to undertake a series of sweeping reforms and issued a decree abolishing serfdom in 1861. SH Archive - 1863 Russian involvement in the US Civil War
The Great Game is an expression used to describe the rivalry between the Russian Empire and the British Empire in their struggle for control of Central Asia and the Caucasus during the 19th century. Great Game - Wikipedia
1837-1907
Location: Afghanistan, Persia, Turkmenistan, Turkmenistan and Tibet.
Result: Afghanistan, Persia and Tibet are considered buffer states.
Territorial changes The khanates of Khiva, Joqand and Bukhara form the General Governorate of Turkestan under Russian rule.
The British Empire sought to expand the Indian Empire and protect its interests there, while the Russian Empire wanted access to the Indian Ocean and the mineral wealth of Central Asia. A race for supremacy began and from 1813 to 1907.
By the beginning of the 20th century, Central Asia was firmly in the hands of Russia and, despite some resistance to the Bolsheviks, Uzbekistan (independent Tatarstan) and the rest of Central Asia became part of the Soviet Union.
It is also in 1901 the Boxer uprising, some 8 nations supported by 4 other countries against the Tatar Qing dynasty. SH Archive - 1899-1901: Boxer Rebellion. What are they hiding?
It is here that I believe the last traces of Tartary in Mongolia were erased.
With the collapse of the Qing Empire in 1911, the Mongolian capital became a focus of independence efforts.
The Communist Revolution of 1921 was a military and political event whereby Mongolian revolutionaries, with the help of the Soviet Red Army, drove the Russian White Guard out of the country and in 1924 founded the Mongolian People's Republic.
Mongolian Revolution of 1921 - Wikipedia
Later, Queen Genepil was executed in May 1938, shot as part of the Stalinist repressions in Mongolia, in which a large part of the population died.
SH Archive - 1899-1901: Boxer Rebellion. What are they hiding?
According to Fomenko after the fall of Pugachev, Tartary began to slowly lose ground. Siberia was renamed: "Russian Tartary", however it can be seen from these three maps of 1789, 1818, 1820, that the Tatar Qing dynasty still retains a good part of the territory including Mongolia and Tibet, while independent Tartary seems to be out of Russian control even, bordering Persia, the Mughal Empire.
1789 Bonne, Rigobert important areas
1818 Lizars, Daniel
1818 Lizars, Daniel
Then comes the Crimean War (1853-1856), the Russian country was defeated in the Crimean War (1853-1856) by an alliance of European great powers such as the United Kingdom, France, the Ottoman Empire and the Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia. Energy technologies of the past: Crimean war (by tech_dancer) (tart-aria.info mirror)
Nicholas I of Russia, Alexander II (1855-1881), the man who supported Lincoln against the Confederates. He was forced to undertake a series of sweeping reforms and issued a decree abolishing serfdom in 1861. SH Archive - 1863 Russian involvement in the US Civil War
The Great Game is an expression used to describe the rivalry between the Russian Empire and the British Empire in their struggle for control of Central Asia and the Caucasus during the 19th century. Great Game - Wikipedia
1837-1907
Location: Afghanistan, Persia, Turkmenistan, Turkmenistan and Tibet.
Result: Afghanistan, Persia and Tibet are considered buffer states.
Territorial changes The khanates of Khiva, Joqand and Bukhara form the General Governorate of Turkestan under Russian rule.
The British Empire sought to expand the Indian Empire and protect its interests there, while the Russian Empire wanted access to the Indian Ocean and the mineral wealth of Central Asia. A race for supremacy began and from 1813 to 1907.
By the beginning of the 20th century, Central Asia was firmly in the hands of Russia and, despite some resistance to the Bolsheviks, Uzbekistan (independent Tatarstan) and the rest of Central Asia became part of the Soviet Union.
It is also in 1901 the Boxer uprising, some 8 nations supported by 4 other countries against the Tatar Qing dynasty. SH Archive - 1899-1901: Boxer Rebellion. What are they hiding?
It is here that I believe the last traces of Tartary in Mongolia were erased.
With the collapse of the Qing Empire in 1911, the Mongolian capital became a focus of independence efforts.
The Communist Revolution of 1921 was a military and political event whereby Mongolian revolutionaries, with the help of the Soviet Red Army, drove the Russian White Guard out of the country and in 1924 founded the Mongolian People's Republic.
Mongolian Revolution of 1921 - Wikipedia
Later, Queen Genepil was executed in May 1938, shot as part of the Stalinist repressions in Mongolia, in which a large part of the population died.
- In this Mongolian revolution of 1921 you can clearly see socialist Mongolia and socialist Russia against white Russia, Mongolia, China (not yet socialist), supported by Japan. I believe that here was the last purge for those who did not forget the recently fallen Tatar past.
- These socialisms in China, Russia, Mongolia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, a kind of purge for those who still had in their memory the past of Tatarstan? eliminating the traces of Tatarstan from the memory of the people. To this must be added the world wars.
- This according to the official chronology, otherwise it could have happened in a shorter period of time. The thing is that on this Siberian side there were no traces of large cities that we see on ancient maps so abundantly, what kind of weapons were used to erase them? Nuclear or the "new directed energy airships" straight out of "science fiction"? Laser weapon - Wikipedia
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While I don't know how much value this is, but looking at the image search for the "Karakorum ruins," and the subsequent turtle/tortuous statues, I see several which I think look like panthers with shells.They have claw/paw feet, cat-like teeth and nose, and what look like whiskers.
Other depictions actually look like turtles.
I wonder why the turtle would be chosen to be represented at all, it's not exactly a powerful creature (maybe related to the whole Earth is on a turtle's back thing). Comparing the relation of turtle statues to the image of the Kublai Khan with Marco Polo, I assume that is an ocean present in the painting. Perhaps there was a change in nearby bodies of land and water.
Reminds me of this photo.
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Im confused... because we Know that Tartars are Swarthy in complexion, So I dont see how he could even be depicted as white and why anyone would consider this accurate.Well, in the same book it says the following:
Unfortunately we do not know that today's Koreans are the same ones Huc refers to in his book. Japan was most probably inhibited by the Ainu People. So, who knows what race left Tartary to go to Korea, and what happened to it. Judging by the fate of the Ainu... nothing good could happen.
- The present inhabitants state that, in the olden time, the country was occupied by Corean tribes, who, expelled thence in the course of various wars, took refuge in the peninsula which they still possess, between the Yellow Sea and the sea of Japan. You often, in these parts of Tartary, meet with the remains of great towns, and the ruins of fortresses, very nearly resembling those of the middle ages in Europe, and, upon turning up the soil in these places, it is not unusual to find lances, arrows, portions of farming implements, and urns filled with Corean money.
I don't think those were your traditional Mongolians or Koreans of today. This here below is Marco Polo on the left and Kublai Khan on the right. We can see that Kublai Khan has nothing Asian about him, and... he is considerably bigger than Marco Polo.
Here is Kublai Khan's court, and he looks nothing like your typical Mongolian of today.
So much we do not know...
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You meet all kinds of Tatars (or Tartars)...
Link1, Link2, Link3.
Kazan Tatars.
Tell them about the Mongol-Tatars and the Horde (in the context of the Mongol-Tatar yoke).
Marat Basharov, Ruslan Nagaev, Yulia Valiullina, Chulpan Khamatova, Diniyar Bilyaletdinov, Marat Safin.
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