The Daily Fake

[FarewellAngelina]

This is a question of opinion, of course, but there is lots to make one doubt the authenticity.

Firstly, I say, restorers can be highly skilled, meticulous, conscientious, etc... like historians... and yet they can still act in a way that results in fakery being treated/presented as real.

Then there is the issue of providence of the artwork. Apparently it was painted in 1490-1495, then mentioned in a will in 1830, then found last year. It was absent a lot. I'd personally like to see the will it was mentioned in, cos without that there's no reason to think there is any historicity to the painting at all.

It is also plain from the imagery that this 'restoration' was effectively like creating a new painting. Of which there is a twin somewhere else. As can be seen, it's really nothing like the original image. But it is now attributed to a renaissance master.

Additionally, there is something of a marketing campaign for this new attraction, as can be seen from the associated links.

In my view, it seems far more likely that Correr museum and its curators, found an opportunity to create a story around something, in a way that is harmful to no one, but beneficial to the museum, the restorers, etc. It's an interesting story to get the crowds in. What's the harm in it?

No harm . In the highly skilled meticulous restorers imagination it is true .

 

[Frostychud]

I don't know if this counts as a proper daily fake, but I think it's worth sharing. Everyone here has probably encountered the unusual "coincidence" that the speed of light is encoded in the latitude of the summit of the Great Pyramid:

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This information is always presented as an illustration of the advanced science of Ancient Egypt.

Of course, it's precisely the opposite that's true. From Jeremy James at zephaniah.eu:

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I feel pretty dumb for not seeing this before. Of the three obvious possibilities, namely:

1. The Egyptians knew the speed of light and encoded it into the pyramid.

2. It's a weird coincidence.

3. The speed of light is a Masonic hoax and the coordinates of the Great Pyramid were used as both a wink to the craft and a form of mockery.

...the third possibility is by far the most realistic.

Think about it. How many physicists out there have actually tested the speed of light themselves? Probably almost none. It's probably not even possible to measure it in any kind of precise way here on Earth. What a perfect way to poison physics from the inside.

Looking at the idiotic and useless fake formula E=mc2, which only exists to bludgeon the peasants into intellectual submission to Time's "Man of the Century" (=deceiver of the century), Albert Einstein, I now see simple numerology. Both E and M can stand in for 3's if rotated. C is also 3 (3rd letter of the alphabet). If we discard the equal sign as distraction, we get 333^2, which is 999999, which is 666666, or perhaps 333×2, which is 666.

The deception is that massive and that stupid.

Let's do Einstein again as he's possibly the most important figure in the entire 20th century deception. The spooks at Time Magazine didn't make him "Man of the Century" for nothing.

Physics is presented to us plebs as a robust edifice constructed over centuries by towering geniuses. Then you read articles like this and realize they're just inventing bullshit as they go.

Newfound 'glitch' in Einstein's relativity could rewrite the rules of the universe, study suggests

Newfound 'glitch' in Einstein's relativity could rewrite the rules of the universe, study suggests​

Einstein's theory of general relativity is remarkably good at describing the universe above quantum scales, and it has even predicted other aspects of our cosmos, including black holes, the gravitational lensing of light, gravitational waves, and the Big Bang.

Yet some discrepancies between theory and reality remain. First, attempts to scale down general relativity to describe how gravity operates on quantum scales transform its usually robust equations into incomprehensible nonsense.

"Incomprehensible nonsense." They said it, not me.

However, some scientists say a simple modification of Einstein's relativity might not be enough. In fact, it's possible that the discrepancies revealed by astronomical observations are hints that our understanding of the universe needs a complete rewrite.

Hmmm.

"If so, it means we understand even less than we thought we did," he told Live Science. "My hunch is that instead of adding more new stuff, we need a new paradigm. But no one has come up with anything that makes any sense yet."

The most common "debunk" of "alternative physics" and "conspiracy theories" is that all those smart people in institutions would sooner or later figure it out. Well, here's a debunk of that debunk. They see that something is very wrong, but by the time they get to that stage, they've been selected for docility and worship of authority, initiated, and brainwashed past the point of no return. By the time they've learned enough to realize it's all lies, their salaries and self-images are entirely dependent on remaining blind. The only way this repressed knowledge can make it past the internal and external censors is in the watered-down form seen here: "Yet some discrepancies between theory and reality remain". Compare that weasel formulation to the more neutral "there are discrepancies between theory and reality." Sounds a little different, right? The cognitive dissonance here is beautiful. In the same article we are first told that Einstein's relativity is our best description of the universe, and later told that actually, it needs to be completely jettisoned for a new paradigm.

These people seem not even to notice the contradiction!

The combination of chutzpah and childish innocence is very dangerous. These people know nothing.

 

[feralimal]

Let's do Einstein again as he's possibly the most important figure in the entire 20th century deception. The spooks at Time Magazine didn't make him "Man of the Century" for nothing.

Physics is presented to us plebs as a robust edifice constructed over centuries by towering geniuses. Then you read articles like this and realize they're just inventing bullshit as they go.

Newfound 'glitch' in Einstein's relativity could rewrite the rules of the universe, study suggests

Newfound 'glitch' in Einstein's relativity could rewrite the rules of the universe, study suggests​

Einstein's theory of general relativity is remarkably good at describing the universe above quantum scales, and it has even predicted other aspects of our cosmos, including black holes, the gravitational lensing of light, gravitational waves, and the Big Bang.

Yet some discrepancies between theory and reality remain. First, attempts to scale down general relativity to describe how gravity operates on quantum scales transform its usually robust equations into incomprehensible nonsense.

"Incomprehensible nonsense." They said it, not me.

However, some scientists say a simple modification of Einstein's relativity might not be enough. In fact, it's possible that the discrepancies revealed by astronomical observations are hints that our understanding of the universe needs a complete rewrite.

Hmmm.

"If so, it means we understand even less than we thought we did," he told Live Science. "My hunch is that instead of adding more new stuff, we need a new paradigm. But no one has come up with anything that makes any sense yet."

The most common "debunk" of "alternative physics" and "conspiracy theories" is that all those smart people in institutions would sooner or later figure it out. Well, here's a debunk of that debunk. They see that something is very wrong, but by the time they get to that stage, they've been selected for docility and worship of authority, initiated, and brainwashed past the point of no return. By the time they've learned enough to realize it's all lies, their salaries and self-images are entirely dependent on remaining blind. The only way this repressed knowledge can make it past the internal and external censors is in the watered-down form seen here: "Yet some discrepancies between theory and reality remain". Compare that weasel formulation to the more neutral "there are discrepancies between theory and reality." Sounds a little different, right? The cognitive dissonance here is beautiful. In the same article we are first told that Einstein's relativity is our best description of the universe, and later told that actually, it needs to be completely jettisoned for a new paradigm.

These people seem not even to notice the contradiction!

The combination of chutzpah and childish innocence is very dangerous. These people know nothing.

Fwiw, I previously mentioned an alternative theory to explain the 'gravity effect', which doesn't fall back on magic, untestable magic forces pulling things to the center of large objects:
SH Archive - Is "Flat Earth" a PsyOp?

... namely, that acceleration can also explain the effect.

 

[feralimal]

I just read this post:
preearth.net • View topic - No ancient Jewish cities in Israel but lots of Greek cities.

(referenced from here: Greeks in the Holy Land - Cluesforum—Exposing Mass Deception)

I'm posting this as an example of someone else's research in uncovering fakery.

It turns out that there is not a single ancient Jewish city in what is now called Israel. There is not a single ancient city where Jewish letters were used in the building inscriptions. There is not a single ancient city where the buildings are of "an ancient Jewish architectural style". In fact, there is not even a building category that could be described as "ancient Jewish". Of course, the Jewish letters that should be seen in these cities, are those of the Dead Sea scrolls (supposedly from 2000 years ago).

The word synagogue (ΣΥΝΑΓΩΓΗ) is a Greek word for a gathering of people, assembly, or meeting place. It is exceedingly strange that Jews should have chosen a Greek word to name their churches. Here is a photo of the dedication stone of the oldest synagogue in Israel. This dedication stone is all that is left of the building.

Many fraudulent "Hebrew" inscriptions have been produced simply by adding the word peace, in Hebrew, to an existing Greek inscription. Often, even though care has been taken to carve the added word in the same style as the original, it is still clear that it has been added by a different hand. An example is pictured below. The Aramaic ostracon inscriptions are also highly likely to be fraudulent. When all the fraudulent, and miss-dated cases, are removed from the tally, one suspects that there will be no real Hebrew or Aramaic inscriptions (from before the Arab conquest) left.

There's a lot more to the article.. and the theory outlined probably deserves a post of its own.

 

[Frostychud]

Gotta share it.

This one is really stupid.

'It was not a peaceful crossing': Hannibal's troops linked to devastating fire 2,200 years ago in Spain

They excavated a burned farmhouse in the Pyrenees, found some animal skeletons and a gold earring, and presto: proof that fake character Hannibal himself set the fire on his march through the mountains.

Researchers think a farmhouse in the Pyrenees was set on fire by Carthaginian troops on their way to attack Rome.

They "think" so.

a devastating fire in an Iron Age farmhouse may be evidence of the damage wrought by his troops more than 2,200 years ago, a new study finds.

Is it really a study?

The fire completely destroyed the farmhouse and almost everything in it — including four sheep, a goat and a horse — but the people who lived there seem to have escaped, as no human remains were found

Or maybe the farmhouse was burned down by an angry neighbor, or a psychotic homeowner, or to collect insurance, or was struck by lightning, or whatever. I mean, don't these people tell us that every single city in America burned to the ground by accident?

The artifacts there include a single gold earring, which seems to have been deliberately concealed and may be evidence of the Carthaginian attack, Olesti Vila said.

It's all so dumb. This is how history is laundered. Before too long, this completely fraudulent "study" will be condensed to "archaeologists have found significant concrete evidence of Hannibal's march through the Pyrenees" and inserted into the Wikipedia page or wherever. No one will dig any deeper as it's basically impossible to chase every single one of these loose ends.

 

[jeenam]

This is how history is laundered...

To which I then say to the researchers...

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I know my response isn't very professional, but I couldn't help but offer up what I felt was an appropriate response to such absurd research. Even 9 year old me in "advanced" Logic class at Compulsory Schooling would be hard pressed to make the inferences made in the article.

 

[feralimal]

Helen Keller, on her life before she gained self-consciousness, lol

Before the Soul Dawn - Helen Keller on Her Life Before Self-Consciousness

Before my teacher came to me, I did not know that I am. I lived in a world that was a no-world. I cannot hope to describe adequately that unconscious, yet conscious time of nothingness. I did not know that I knew aught, or that I lived or acted or desired. I had neither will nor intellect. I was carried along to objects and acts by a certain blind natural impetus. I had a mind which caused me to feel anger, satisfaction, desire. These two facts led those about me to suppose that I willed and thought. I can remember all this, not because I knew that it was so, but because I have tactual memory. It enables me to remember that I never contracted my forehead in the act of thinking. I never viewed anything beforehand or chose it. I also recall tactually the fact that never in a start of the body or a heart-beat did I feel that I loved or cared for anything. My inner life, then, was a blank without past, present, or future, without hope or anticipation, without wonder or joy or faith.

It was not night—it was not day.

But vacancy absorbing space,
And fixedness, without a place;
There were no stars—no earth—no time—
No check—no change—no good—no crime.

Etc, concluding with:

However that may be, I came later to look for an image of my emotions and sensations in others. I had to learn the outward signs of inward feelings. The start of fear, the suppressed, controlled tensity of pain, the beat of happy muscles in others, had to be perceived and compared with my own experiences before I could trace them back to the intangible soul of another. Groping, uncertain, I at last found my identity, and after seeing my thoughts and feelings repeated in others, I gradually constructed my world of men and of God. As I read and study, I find that this is what the rest of the race has done. Man looks within himself and in time finds the measure and the meaning of the universe.

Poetic, lyrical stuff, a little juvenile perhaps, but wowee, no?

Is this a philosophical case study (brain in a jar, sort of stuff)? Or a question of psychology - how a person can learn to speak, and learn all about the world, despite not being able to see or hear? Or an engineering question - can one use a typical computer, without a keyboard or mouse? Or is this a case of fakery, where we might wonder about the idea of this person's lifelong dedication to the role?

 

[feralimal]

A second post for today.... An msm chap tries to find out about Bologna's towers:

Why Medieval Bologna Was Full of Tall Towers, and What Happened to Them

I watched the 12 min embedded video:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikg3-GQLg3g

Short, imperfect summary of the video:

The opening picture has 179 towers in the image. However, this is an artist's rendition of Bologna in the 1200's - ie not relevant to reality and drawn in 2008. To find out the truth of the matter, the narrator goes to Bologna, and sees a model in the local museum. The model is based on a book written in 1904 ("really solid historical work") that references 194 towers. However, this number is apparently wrong - intentionally so, as it is a sort of boast. The museum then tells him about a second model that does show how it was like in the 1200's - apparently 80-100 towers. Finally he acknowledges we will never know how many towers there really were.

I'm not surprised that he was unable to find the actual number of towers that there were in the 1200's. I do admire his honesty and diligence in visiting the town to get a first hand understanding. However, even though his tower estimates fluctuate wildly during his investigation, I was unsurprised that his investigation doesn't seem to spark any concern about the history we are presented. Outright falsity is "solid", apparently. Its amazing that people remain so deferential to these provided narratives, even when they personally research things for themselves.

You also have to wonder about the museum - it has a model that shows 194 towers, and another one in some sort of backroom that is more accurate (showing 80-100 towers), only even, then they do not seem sure. And what is the alternative model based on anyway?!? At any rate, they apparently prominently display a model of 194 towers that they know to be wrong. But this is in keeping with the role that museums play imo - they are there to provide entertaining ideas for history tourists, draw people to the drama of an imagined past - truth be damned.

This little vignette is another example of how we are unable to get close to guessing the number of towers (a pretty major landmark) in a place like Bologna (which surely keeps records of this sort of thing) - so, how much trust should we extend to all these other historical 'truths'? Could it even be that the towers were created more recently? All bets are off.

 

[feralimal]

Helen Keller, on her life before she gained self-consciousness, lol

Before the Soul Dawn - Helen Keller on Her Life Before Self-Consciousness


Etc, concluding with:

Poetic, lyrical stuff, a little juvenile perhaps, but wowee, no?

Is this a philosophical case study (brain in a jar, sort of stuff)? Or a question of psychology - how a person can learn to speak, and learn all about the world, despite not being able to see or hear? Or an engineering question - can one use a typical computer, without a keyboard or mouse? Or is this a case of fakery, where we might wonder about the idea of this person's lifelong dedication to the role?

Helen is a feminine name of Greek origin that means "torch" or "light."

Helen (given name) - Wikipedia

In modern German Keller means cellar or basement

Keller (surname) - Wikipedia

Helen Keller = Illuminated Cellar. Its quiet and dark in the cellar - but the lights are on! This is funny!

 

[ViniB]

Helen (given name) - Wikipedia


Keller (surname) - Wikipedia

Helen Keller = Illuminated Cellar. Its quiet and dark in the cellar - but the lights are on! This is funny!

Upon a closer look at everything about this person, one thing becomes crystal clear. Everything about her is a lie! But on the why she went ahead with it and who was behind, that i don't know......

She is quite popular among new age groups from what i've researched

 

[ThomasGledstanes]

Gotta share it.

This one is really stupid.

'It was not a peaceful crossing': Hannibal's troops linked to devastating fire 2,200 years ago in Spain

They excavated a burned farmhouse in the Pyrenees, found some animal skeletons and a gold earring, and presto: proof that fake character Hannibal himself set the fire on his march through the mountains.

Researchers think a farmhouse in the Pyrenees was set on fire by Carthaginian troops on their way to attack Rome.

They "think" so.

a devastating fire in an Iron Age farmhouse may be evidence of the damage wrought by his troops more than 2,200 years ago, a new study finds.

Is it really a study?

The fire completely destroyed the farmhouse and almost everything in it — including four sheep, a goat and a horse — but the people who lived there seem to have escaped, as no human remains were found

Or maybe the farmhouse was burned down by an angry neighbor, or a psychotic homeowner, or to collect insurance, or was struck by lightning, or whatever. I mean, don't these people tell us that every single city in America burned to the ground by accident?

The artifacts there include a single gold earring, which seems to have been deliberately concealed and may be evidence of the Carthaginian attack, Olesti Vila said.

It's all so dumb. This is how history is laundered. Before too long, this completely fraudulent "study" will be condensed to "archaeologists have found significant concrete evidence of Hannibal's march through the Pyrenees" and inserted into the Wikipedia page or wherever. No one will dig any deeper as it's basically impossible to chase every single one of these loose ends.

That reminds me of the Romans deforesting the Mediterranean - the ruined landscape hypothesis. I found it to be total b*ll*cks. Pollen record showing a decline, oh it's the Romans deforesting to implying they used a lot of wood for things so again must have deforested. As someone that did a doctorate in environmental archaeology I shake my head at it all now.

 

[feralimal]

NYT - private sale of a Stegosaurus!

https://archive.ph/4fB3T#selection-3551.0-3555.23

"Mr. Cooper supervised the preparation and mounting of the stegosaurus, 3D-scanning the existing bones and mirroring elements of the specimen to fill in the gaps."

In May 2022, Jason Cooper, a commercial paleontologist, went for a walk around his property near the aptly named Colorado town of Dinosaur with a friend and found a bit of femur protruding from some rock.

"a bit of femur protruding". Wow, lucky!

That femur led to a stegosaurus fossil, among the largest and most complete ever found, which has subsequently been nicknamed “Apex.” In July the Sotheby’s auction house will sell Apex at auction at an estimated value of $4 million to $6 million, making the skeleton the latest flashpoint in a long-running debate about the private fossil trade.

"4 million to $6 million", not bad!

Mr. Cooper and his colleagues unearthed the Sotheby’s-bound stegosaurus in 2023. Digs on his property have yielded a number of Jurassic period dinosaurs

Mr. Cooper described the Apex stegosaurus as a unique and scientifically important specimen. Skeletons — even partial ones — of the plate-backed, spike-tailed herbivore are rare. The skeletal mount contains material from about 70 percent of the animal’s bones. At 11 feet tall and over 20 feet long, Apex is double the size of “Sophie,” the most intact stegosaurus specimen known, and has unusual proportions, remarkably long legs and square-bottom plates.

The specimen was also discovered with skin impressions, possibly from the neck, which will be offered as part of the sale.

Mr. Cooper supervised the preparation and mounting of the stegosaurus, 3D-scanning the existing bones and mirroring elements of the specimen to fill in the gaps.

Mr Cooper, on his own property, finds, prepares, mounts, fills in, creates records, etc.

Cassandra Hatton, the head of Sotheby’s science and popular culture department, said the auction house worked closely with Mr. Cooper to reinforce the scientific legitimacy of this privately sold dinosaur mount, aiming to create a model for future auctions.
“This is the first time a specimen has been auctioned where we’ve been working together from the time it was excavated,” she said. “This is the most transparent sale of a dinosaur to have ever occurred.”

The head of science and popular culture department of Sotheby's, reinforces the scientific legitimacy. "A model for future auctions".

 

[ViniB]

Mr Cooper, on his own property, finds, prepares, mounts, fills in, creates records, etc.

The head of science and popular culture department of Sotheby's, reinforces the scientific legitimacy. "A model for future auctions".

These fuckers are not even trying to hide the bullshit anymore, and it's kind of annoying how many in the masses will read these articles and be like, yup they're selling full dinos now how cool

As long aa it's for profit, most will turn a blind eye when it comes to fakery.

We're living in a trully clown world

 

[feralimal]

Another story that I suspect to be fake from beginning to end.

Martha Gellhorn Was The Only Woman to Report on the D-Day Landings From the Ground

Public Relations. "Gellhorn (third from left) later co-wrote a play about her wartime experiences."

Gellhorn was one of the first journalists—and the only female correspondent—to view that hellish scene 80 years ago [D-day/Allied Invasion]. Lacking proper credentials, she lied her way onto a hospital ship traveling from England to France, then rode in a water ambulance to the still-dangerous Normandy shore as artillery shells from battleships roared overhead. Among other hazards, she endured snipers, landmines and strafing by German warplanes, all to get the story.

The only female war correspondent.

Born in St. Louis in 1908, the future journalist was the only daughter of George Gellhorn, a German-born doctor, and Edna Fischel Gellhorn, a suffragist who helped found the League of Women Voters. Gellhorn’s father and maternal grandfather were Jewish, while her maternal grandmother was Protestant. Though Gellhorn wasn’t religious, this dual background had a lasting influence on her, particularly when she became one of the first journalists to view the Dachau concentration camp in 1945.

Famous suffragist relations.

“For Gellhorn, I think it was all about making the world a better place,” says Maggie Hartley, director of public engagement at the National WWII Museum in New Orleans. “Whenever I give a talk, I like to include this quote by her: ‘There has to be a better way to run the world, and we had better see that we get it.’”

"There has to be a better way to run the world, and we had better see that we get it." Yes... but which 'we'?

She was later fired from the bureau for reporting sexual harassment by a businessman with ties to the agency. In the mid-1930s, she worked as a field investigator for the Federal Emergency Relief Administration and assisted first lady Eleanor Roosevelt with correspondence and her magazine column.

Lots of people assist the first lady, right?

For D-Day, Gellhorn was again working with Collier’s. She had hoped to be the publication’s lead reporter for the invasion, but her husband of four years, the novelist and writer Ernest Hemingway, stole the assignment. By the spring of 1944, the couple’s relationship was on the rocks, and Gellhorn believed her husband had taken the job out of spite.

Bad Ernest.

(Gellhorn had used her connections to secure Hemingway a spot on a flight to London, but her trans-Atlantic journey proved more perilous: She spent more than two weeks traveling on board a Norwegian freighter packed with dynamite.)

Once in London, Hemingway arranged for transport to Normandy on the USS Dorothea L. Dix. Gellhorn, meanwhile, didn’t have military approval to continue to France. In fact, the military denied all female journalists permission to cover the Allied landings. But that wasn’t going to stop her.

Plucky. Setting the scene with dynamite and dealing with the patriarchy.

Contrary to several sources, Gellhorn was not on Omaha Beach on June 6. According to Moorehead, when the reporter learned D-Day was underway that morning, she was in London attending a Ministry of Information briefing. Soon after, she made her way to Southampton, where the HMHS Prague was docked. To get on board the hospital carrier, she lied to a military policeman about wanting to interview nurses, then locked herself in a bathroom until the ship was safely en route.

"Contrary to several sources" - did previous narratives fail to stick?

“It will be hard to tell you of the wounded, there were so many of them,” she wrote in her Collier’s article, which was published on August 5, 1944

but, later we read:

Despite the high numbers of injuries, only one man died on the hospital ship.

After D-Day, Gellhorn continued to cover the war in Europe. For months, word had filtered out about the horrors unfolding at Dachau and other Nazi concentration camps. Gellhorn, one of the first journalists to tour Dachau following its liberation in April 1945, thought she was prepared for the experience but quickly realized otherwise.

In her Collier’s article, titled “Dachau: Experimental Murder,” Gellhorn described the shock of what she had witnessed: “There suddenly but never to be believed were the bodies of the dead. They were everywhere. There were piles of them inside the oven room, outside the door and alongside the building. They were all naked, and behind the crematorium, the ragged clothing of the dead was neatly stacked.”

Reports on the holocaust.

Stricken with ovarian cancer and unable to perform even simple tasks, she swallowed a cyanide pill and died at age 89 in February 1998.

This article and her wiki page, have this fake, over the top, self-aggrandising tone (that is interpreted as plucky). We are being told this is a person that can do no wrong, a heroine on the right side of history.

 

[feralimal]

Second post today, is a link to a series of tweets from Lez Luthor on twitter, talking about D-day.

x.com

 

[feralimal]

An ancient aboriginal ritual.

Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows

Two slightly burnt, fat-covered sticks discovered inside an Australian cave are evidence of a healing ritual that was passed down unchanged by more than 500 generations of Indigenous people over the last 12,000 years, according to new research.

Ancient sticks, in the fire, unburnt.

Each one was found in a separate fireplace around the size of the palm of a hand—far too small to have been used for heat or cooking meat.

The slightly charred ends of the sticks had been cut specially to stick into the fire, and both were coated in human or animal fat.

One stick was 11,000 years old and the other 12,000 years old, radiocarbon dating found.

They carbon date the sticks not the fat.

Mullett spent years trying to find out what they could have been used for, before discovering the accounts of Alfred Howitt, a 19th-century Australian anthropologist who studied Aboriginal culture.

Some of Howitt's notes had never been published, and Mullett said he spent a long time convincing a local museum to share them.

In the notes, Howitt describes in the late 1880s the rituals of Gunaikurnai medicine men and women called "mulla-mullung".

Hard to get access to the anthropologists notes..

Jean-Jacques Delannoy, a French geomorphologist and study co-author, told AFP that "there is no other known gesture whose symbolism has been preserved for such a long time".

"Australia kept the memory of its first peoples alive thanks to a powerful oral tradition that enabled it to be passed on," Delannoy said.

"However in our societies, memory has changed since we switched to the written word, and we have lost this sense."

We don't know what people were doing in the past.

Indigenous Australians are one of the oldest continuous living cultures, and Mullett said the discovery was a "unique opportunity to be able to read the memoirs of our ancestors".

It was "a reminder that we are a living culture still connected to our ancient past," he added.

Hmm.. about that connection to the ancient past...

The thing to point out is that the aborigines themselves do not seem to know about this ritual. Geomorphologists are using hard-to-access work of anthropologists, to determine this stuff. Indigenous aborigines are the grateful recipients of this academic work, and by it, feel connected to their "ancient past". It's a heartwarming story.

 

[ViniB]

The thing to point out is that the aborigines themselves do not seem to know about this ritual. Geomorphologists are using hard to access work of anthropologists, to determine this stuff. Indigenous aborigines are the grateful recipients of this academic work, and by it, feel connected to their "ancient past". It's a heartwarming story.

So, in a nutshell, we have a supposed "ancient ritual" that the natives themselves never new about, a single written source from the 1880s (that the public most likely won't ever see it), questionable "dating" of the sticks, and the, against all odds, stick who remained undisturbed for "12.000" years.....

Sometimes i ask myself if these individuals ever considered their dating methods to be wrong

 

[feralimal]

So, in a nutshell, we have a supposed "ancient ritual" that the natives themselves never new about, a single written source from the 1880s (that the public most likely won't ever see it), questionable "dating" of the sticks, and the, against all odds, stick who remained undisturbed for "12.000" years.....

Sometimes i ask myself if these individuals ever considered their dating methods to be wrong

It's most interesting to me as an example of how it is possible to insert something into a group's historical record. This would then become part of the historical backdrop for aborigines, who also give up control of their past to -ologists. This may be what has happened to all cultures.

 

[Seiya]

So, in a nutshell, we have a supposed "ancient ritual" that the natives themselves never new about, a single written source from the 1880s (that the public most likely won't ever see it), questionable "dating" of the sticks, and the, against all odds, stick who remained undisturbed for "12.000" years.....

Sometimes i ask myself if these individuals ever considered their dating methods to be wrong

All native history are fake. It is just ridiculous and I feel sorry for the people.
I don't know which one is the worse, the costume or dance. I think is the dance because the have only 2 function; mocky or sexual or both the same time

 

[ViniB]

Well, the false flag of the moment happened, trump suffered and alledged "assassination" attempt