The History and Culture of the Ancient Aryan Civilization

Just like all of your 'evidence', it's all artist's impressions which are no more than artist's opinions.
The buildings don't lie.
Those that really exist on the ground today. Those whose photographs I've placed here.

Fancy that, people even built with wood in Europe...
This is a totally brain dead take.
An argument along the lines of "oh yeah, people all over the world built with wood, so there is no connection".
A way to cover your eyes, a way of ignorance, when the evidence is overwhelming.

Yeah, people all over the world built with wood, but wood is just a building material. What was their architecture like? Why some people built similar architecture buildings? A common architecture style implies a common civilization.

Here we have similar shape of the buildings, similar shape of the roofs, the decorations on the roofs and around the roofs, decorations under the arches of the roofs, decorations around the windows, etc. In general the Ancient Aryan architecture style is completely made of wood, but very elaborate and ornamental.

The Ancient Chinese buildings are also made completely of wood, but their architecture style is completely different.

Similar skyscrapers can be found in modern United States, Germany, Dubai, and China. They are all part of the same globalist capitalist civilization. These buildings belong to either the same architectural school or group of schools, or they belong to the same views or biases or assumptions that the builders had for architecture.

The thread "Similar style buildings are all over the world, were they built by our civilization".

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So I take it that you have no problems accepting the similarities between different Roman style buildings all over the world, made of granite and marble. Which leads us to the conclusion that there was an ancient global or semi-global Roman Empire. But you absolutely refuse to accept the similarities between different Aryan style buildings all over the world, made of wood! Because the conclusion is unpleasant for you, that there was a non-Western global or semi-global civilization, one centered on Russia or in which at least Russia has played a large role. It may have been a "distributed" civilization, there may have been different countries, not one center of power, but they were parts of the same civilization none the less.
 
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So I take it that you have no problems accepting the similarities between different Roman style buildings all over the world, made of granite and marble. Which leads us to the conclusion that there was an ancient global or semi-global Roman Empire

Do NOT put words in my mouth! You don't know me or anything about me so DON'T make assumptions about my beliefs!

But you absolutely refuse to accept the similarities between different Aryan style buildings all over the world, made of wood! Because the conclusion is unpleasant for you, that there was a non-Western global or semi-global civilization, one centered on Russia or in which at least Russia has played a large role.

You have totally failed to convince me of your fantasy Russian centred global civilisation, but of course that's my fault because I'm the one with the huge chip on my shoulder not you, oh no, never you. You are the poor persecuted martyr to "the truth" who gets harassed all across the internet by trolls like me, but who never stopped to wonder why.
 
Do NOT put words in my mouth! You don't know me or anything about me so DON'T make assumptions about my beliefs!
Ok, I take that back then.
What I meant was more general, that there are other posters here, people who appear as moderators on this forum, who openly discuss the theory that just because there are Roman style buildings all over the world, then that means that they were built by an Ancient Roman global civilization. That Americans, Europeans, and Russians did not build, but merely excavated and repurposed these buildings. I don't see such harsh criticism into such topics.
And yet when I too put pictures of similar buildings suggesting the presence of an ancient wide-spread lost civilization, which is deliberately hidden by official historians, it is I who gets the criticism.

You have totally failed to convince me of your fantasy Russian centred global civilisation, but of course that's my fault because I'm the one with the huge chip on my shoulder not you, oh no, never you. You are the poor persecuted martyr to "the truth" who gets harassed all across the internet by trolls like me, but who never stopped to wonder why.
Don't worry, I'm not trying to convince you, who has such strong negative opinions about this topic.
Wonder why you even continue posting here? Please stop trying to derail my thread. Thank you.
I'm writing this for open minded readers, not for trolls and critics.
 
Wonder why you even continue posting here?
I'm writing this for open minded readers, not for trolls and critics.

Because it's a forum and that's what happens in forums. You're writing this for people who won't even bother to try and contradict you, that's why you want me to stop posting here.
 
Because it's a forum and that's what happens in forums. You're writing this for people who won't even bother to try and contradict you, that's why you want me to stop posting here.
If I'm not mistaken, you're the guy who wrote an article "disproving" the Ancient Aryan theory. Hence you are invested in trying to uphold your own theory, and disprove mine, because our theories are polar opposites.
I understand what you're in here for.

Anyway, back to my regular posts.

Traditional Thailand/Cambodia architecture displays features in common with Nordic/Slavic architecture.
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Notice especially these arches, that have a "half arch" in the middle that goes down. I don't know how it's called.
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Similar "half arches" can be found in the Russian architecture.
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Wooden buildings in Pakistan resembling those that can be found in the Russian countryside.
If I'm not mistaken, these buildings are from the Kashmir region.
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This building (mosque?) resembles an Orthodox church that can be found in Ukraine or the Balkans perhaps.
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This is the architecture of the Carpatho-Rusyns, a Slavic ethnic group living in Southwest Ukraine, Slovakia, and Hungary. They are considered as the original Ancient Russians, who have preserved the culture and traditions. Some Carpatho-Rusyns have said, "We are Russians, but not High Russians". Meaning that they have a sense of belonging to the nebulous Russian culture, but not to the modern Russian Federation in it's current territories.

These roofs with multiple levels stacked on top of each other resemble some "pagoda-esque" buildings in Southeast Asia. Also notice the resemblance to Scandinavian stave churches.
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Some odds and ends that didn't fit in previous posts.

Indian window decorations that look similar to Russian ones.
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Fractal architecture in Russia and in Thailand.
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So we see, all of these similar buildings are located along the same line!
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Obviously, this hypothetical civilization isn't Russian but an Indian one. It's amazing to see how the Indian-Aryan conquerers exported their Aryan culture to the backwarded Russians. Thanks to India, Russia has beautiful buildings and horseriding skills. Sanskrit, an Indian language, gave Russians the roots for their own language. They probably couldn't utter words before that.

Evidently, India has always been more populous and financially stronger than Russia. They've also developed a great religion to which Russian paganism pales in comparison.

Russians must be thankful to their Aryan cultural masters from India, Pakistan and Uzbekistan, who helped the backwarded Russians come out of the dark. Who knows what kind of swamp Russia would've been today if not for the beautiful culture of India.

Am I doing this right?
 
Obviously, this hypothetical civilization isn't Russian but an Indian one. It's amazing to see how the Indian-Aryan conquerers exported their Aryan culture to the backwarded Russians. Thanks to India, Russia has beautiful buildings and horseriding skills. Sanskrit, an Indian language, gave Russians the roots for their own language. They probably couldn't utter words before that.

Evidently, India has always been more populous and financially stronger than Russia. They've also developed a great religion to which Russian paganism pales in comparison.

Russians must be thankful to their Aryan cultural masters from India, Pakistan and Uzbekistan, who helped the backwarded Russians come out of the dark. Who knows what kind of swamp Russia would've been today if not for the beautiful culture of India.

Am I doing this right?
Are you doing it right? If you're just trolling or joking, then no. Just get out.
If this is a serious idea, then yes. Only serious discussion would be right.

backwarded Russians come out of the dark
The word "backwarded" is not right. I never said that South Asians or Southeast Asians are "backwarded". Even Australian Aborgenes or Maori peoples are not "backwarded". They are unique in their own way. It is a Western way of thinking other peoples as "backwarded". I wouldn't say that.

They probably couldn't utter words before that.
Yeah obviously you're just mocking, which shows your poor character. Russians couldn't utter words? Bullshit!

We know that before the arrival of the Aryans, India spoke Dravidian languages. Indeed South India still speak Dravidian languages to this day. So what languages were spoken in Russia prior to the arrival of the Aryans? They were Finnish languages. Indeed Finland still speaks the Finnish language to this day. But we have historical records that Finnish languages were spoken even as far Southeast from Finland in Komi or Mari-El until very recently, the late 20th century (!) when the youth stopped learning these languages, and were relegated to elderly speakers. During the 19th century one Russian writer recorded his story of staying in a village in those parts, where no one in the village apparently spoke Russian, and he had to go around with a teenage boy as an interpreter.

So before the arrival of the Aryans they not "couldn't utter words". They had their own languages, Dravidian in South India and Finnish in North Russia.
That's a very piggish insult. No, you are not doing this right.

Indian-Aryan conquerers exported their Aryan culture to the backwarded Russians.
Russians, and Scandinavians, and Balkans

The question, did the Aryans come from Russia/Scandinavia/Balkans to India/Pakistan or vice versa, is actually a good question worth discussing. Actually these two possibilities are not mutually exclusive! I show evidence here of a cultural connection between Scandinavia/Russia/Balkans and Pakistan/India/Southeast Asia. Where did this common culture come from? Either from the North or from the South. More likely they came from the Center, or Central Asia. One group went north into Russia, the other group went south into India. So we can conclude that the ancient homeland of the Aryan peoples in in Central Asia, since it is equidistant to both Russian and India. And then it was taken over by Turkic speaking peoples only later, perhaps during the Middle Ages.

In Russian and Eastern Europe we have a certain people called the Tsygani, also known as the Roma or Gypsies in the English language. The word "Gypsies" in the English language is a misnomer, suggesting that they came from Ancient Egypt. Actually these people look like they came from India. They have Indian appearance, Indian like accent when they speak Russian, and even some tribes or groups of Tsygani, particularly the women, have traditional clothing that is similar to the clothing of South Asia. We can say that these people came from India into Russia. Could they have been the Ancient Aryans? Perhaps.

Also we have Europeoid or Russian looking people in certain parts of South Asia or Southeast Asia!
For example, some Indonesian women look very much Europeoid.

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The Kalash people of Pakistan (Hindu Kush region) also look Europeoid, even Slavic. These people really look like common people that you can find in Russia. You maybe familiar with Kalashnikov, the Russian man who invented the AK-47. His name Kalashnikov means simply of the Kalash family/tribe/lineage. So it seems that the Kalash came from Russia. Or did Russians, and all White peoples in general, come from Pakistan originally? It seems that the former is more likely.

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So who came from where originally? It is rather difficult to say.
I have exhausted my knowledge in this topic. I can refer to the writings of the Indian historian Bal Gangadhar Tilak, according to him the Ancient Aryans came from a land in the far north, the Arctic Circle in fact. His book is "Arctic home in the Vedas". According to him, the Vedas describes a land in which there is half year day, half year night, a phenomenon which can be seen in North Russia Arctic Shore.

The Arctic Home in the Vedas by Bal Gangadhar Tilak (1903) : Bal Gangadhar Tilak : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Arctic home in the Vedas : Tilak, Lokamanya Bal Gangadhar : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
 
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What if the Ancient Aryans came from India, or even from Pakistan, and conquered Russia, and brought their culture to Russia, thus making Russia a Slavic country, instead of a Finnish country? This is an interesting idea. What information do we have to support this theory? I want to see relevent evidence that anyone may have.

Yes, historically India always has been a much more populous, wealthier, and culturally more developed country than Russia. While Russia has been more belligerent and strong militarily than India.

We have the theory that the Aryan Indians brought Sanskrit to Russia, and the Russian language is descended from Sanskrit, thus explaining the many similarities between these two languages. It could be the other way around too, but let's pretend that it's like that. The Ancient Aryans also brought many cultural features to Russia, just like the Byzantine Greeks later.

A serious question, why didn't they bring some of the unique features of Indian culture to Russia? Notice that we have common wooden architecture between Russia/Scandinavia and India/Southeast Asia. The common architecture is wooden only. The stone architecture is different.

India is famous for it's stone architecture, the Hindu temples, many of which are painted in bright colors. So why don't we see such temples in Russia as well? Why are there no stone Hindu temples in Russia? Were they all destroyed? I don't even know how could such temples be destroyed. They look durable, and it would take a lot of efforts to destroy them. By comparison, wooden structures are easily burned.

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China has endured a half colonization, when the Western powers and Japan attempted to colonize China, but failed. Still they managed to do a lot of damage to China, a period of time which went down in history as the Century of Humilitation. India had endured a full colonization by the British Empire. We all know the implications of that. Much of the traditional culture was destroyed or distorted, historical records were burned or rewritten.

Russia has endured three colonizations from Western powers. The first one was during the reign of "Peter the Great" and "Catherine the Great" and their successors, the early Romanovs. Peter the Great was actually not himself. During the time when Peter the Great toured Western Europe, he was kidnapped and put in the Bastille Jail and worn an iron mask, hence he was known as the "Prisoner in the Iron Mask". The man who went back to Russia under the guise of Peter the Great was a completely different man who didn't even know Russian language. And all of his policies were pro-Western, and anti-Russian, trying to wipe out the traditional Russian clothing, forcing people to wear Western European clothing, burning of Ancient Russian historical records, persecutions against the Ancient Russian religion, genocide of the Ancient Russian nobility, banning the Ancient Russian calendar, murdering tribal elders who knew the old ways. It's clear that he and his immediate descendants were Western colonial proxies.

Similarly, the war of 1812 was a colonization of Russia by Western powers. There is evidence that Napoleon Bonaparte and Tsar Alexander worked together to conquer Russia. The Uniforms of the French and the Romanov Empire headquartered around St Petersburg were exactly the same style, the only difference was the color of their outfits, the former wore blue outfits while the latter wore green outfits.

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They were opposed by the real Russian army, who are labeled by official history as simply "the militia forces". These soldiers wore uniforms that looked like Russian nationalists. These were the same uniforms that the White Army wore during the Russian Civil War against the Red Army. These uniforms consisted of a gray kaftan, and a papakha or a "Russian officer hat" or furazhka. The furazhka was originally descended from the Russian peasant's hat. In photographs of Russian peasants from the 19th century we can see them wearing this hat. The musician in the video below is wearing the original version of this Russian peasant hat. This hat was used by the "militia forces", or the real anti-Napoleonic Russian army, because their soldiers were former peasants and they wore whatever they had available. The military just made some adjustments to this hat, such as giving it a more rigid internal structure and making the visor hard instead of flimsy.

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ui2TycPA9E


Napoleon did not attack St Petersburg despite having the chance, he went straight for Moscow. But why during the war of 1812 the army of the Russian Empire was wearing foreign uniforms instead of Russian ones? That is so bizarre. Indeed only after that war the army of the Russian Empire started wearing furazhkas, as they did in World War 1. I think that during the war of 1812 the Russian militia forces won a victory over Napoleon. After the war the nationalist forces took control of the government of the Russian Empire. And we can immediately know when that happened, when the Western-style military uniforms were discarded, and the Russian-style military uniforms were adopted. Then we can know that the real Russia was restored. The Crimean War and World War 1 were attempts at overthrowing the Russian Empire. The former failed, the latter succeeded.

The third colonization of Russia was known as the Soviet Union. After World War 1 the Bolsheviks couped the Russian Empire. Then there was a Civil War between the White Army who wore real Russian uniforms, and the Red Army who wore rather bizarre uniforms. After the White Army lost, the Bolsheviks behaved themselves as real colonizers of the Russian land. They burned lots of wooden buildings, and lots of historical and religious manuscripts, and massacred certain classes of Russian people, such as the Cossacks. To say that they destroyed a lot of the traditional Russian culture would be to say nothing at all.

There is a great deal of evidence to show that the Jews .. took control of Russia through your country's revolution.
Yes, most of the Bolsheviks were Jewish or of Jewish origin. Even Stalin's real name was Dzhugashvili or Jew-gashvili.

So what am I trying to say here? My point is that Russia had it worse than most other countries. The only countries that had it worse were the Native Americans (total genocide) and the Africans (enslavement). So it stands that there was plenty of time, plenty of wars, revolutions, coups, and cultural cleansing, to wipe out the Ancient Russian culture, religion, architecture, traditions. What we have now is a mere meager crumbs of what Russia once was culturally.

There was enough time for destroying any Hindu temples that could have been located in Russia in the past. Why I still think that there weren't any Hindu temples made out of carved stone, as in Ancient India? Because the stone ruins of Ancient Egypt, Greece, India, Cambodia, and the Mayans still stand to this day, never mind however many colonizers came and went through. It's hard to destroy stone. Wood burns easily. I think that if there were any Hindu or pagan temples in Ancient Russia, they were made predominantly out of wood, and they looked like Norwegian wooden stave churches or Thailand wooden Buddhist temples. Never mind that the Norwegian stave churches are now occupied by Christians, I think that they were originally pagan places of worship. And there were definitely Norwegian stave churches in Russia itself as in the painting where the Napoleonic soldiers were setting such temples on fire.

If there would have been stone Hindu temples in Russia, it would have been easier to twist the historical narrative than to demolish them, as with the buildings in St. Petersburg. The fact that there are not leads me to think that stone Hindu temples are not part of the Ancient Aryan culture! We see wooden buildings only similar along the Scandinavia-Indonesia axis. What if the Aryans didn't bring stone Hindu temples to India, they were in India already. They just brought wooden architecture to India. The Ancient Aryans built everything out of wood, not out of stone.

What if the stone Hindu temples are part of the native Indian culture, and not part of the foreign element? What if the Aryans invaded India from the north, not four thousands of years ago, but only a thousand years ago or less? What if they came to India from Russia or Central Asia only during the Middle Ages? That sounds more plausible. Because the chain mail and conical helmets of the Sikhs and Russian Bogatyrs were worn during the Middle Ages. It does not seem plausible that the Sikhs would preserve the Russian steppe martial arts if they (the Aryans) came to India 4,000 years ago. That's a very long time to preserve such traditions. However what if they came to India and conquered the north part of the country during the Middle Ages? Totally plausible to maintain such traditions from the Middle Ages. Just look at the Arabs and what they've achieved.

What if the whole entire timeline or chronology is wrong? Then the wood-building Aryans arrived only during the Middle Ages, the entire timeline gets shifted upwards. Now if this is true, then no one gets hurt! Indian nationalists, or Tamil nationalists don't get offended because Hinduism was definitely a thing in India before the arrival of the Aryans. The carved stone Hindu temples were already existing well before the Aryans arrived. Most of the culture that's unique to India was present in India before that time. The Aryans just brought wooden buildings with carved horse heads and chicken heads on the rooftops.

And also the Aryanists don't get offended, because an Aryan Invasion of India during the Middle Ages would be in line with the evidence that I've compiled here. Specifically it explains the following things:

  • Sikhs and Cossacks having identical martial arts and horseback riding skills.
  • Cossacks wearing Sikh-style turbans.
  • Sikhs temples resembling Russian Orthodox Churches, white walls with golden onion domes.
  • The religion of the Sikhs, which is a monotheistic, non-Hindu religion.
  • Rajputs and Bogatyrs, and Bulgarian warriors, and Polish warriors, and Armenians, and Persian cataphracts wearing identical uniforms of conical helmets and chainmail with sewn in small metal plates.
  • Identical or very similar buildings made of carved wood in Scandinavia, Russia, Poland, Ukraine, and also in Pakistan, India, Thailand, and Indonesia.
  • Europeoid looking peoples in Iran, Pakistan, India, and Indonesia.
  • Identical or very similar traditional embroidery among the Slavs, Scandinavians, Persians, and South Asians.
  • Indo-European languages spoken in Kurdistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Northern India only. Southern Indian languages are different.
  • The R1A haplogroup gene being present in Eastern Europe and Iran, Pakistan, and North India only, but absent in South India.
  • The Mauryan, Gupta, and Mughal Empires never being able to conquer South India.
But what a Middle Ages Aryan invasion of India explains most of all is the caste system. This is a system which forbids all social movement and self improvement for the lower castes. It is a system designed to segregate and subjugate. An apartheid system, which only arises when the conqerors are a foreigners compared to the native people. Such as what happened in South Africa and Israel. We know that the Aryans of India were the Brahmins and Kshatriyas, the religious and political/military elites. However they themselves weren't the Vaishiyas or Shudras. The word "Aryan" means noble. Belonging to the nobility, the elites. If they were foreign conquerors, obviously they wanted the local conquered peoples to be doing their dirty work.

Only a foreign conquest justifies the existence of a caste system. Why else would a caste sytem originate in India. It does not make sense to subjugate your own people, for crying out loud! However subjugate a conquered people, totally plausible. And I have a difficulty believing that the caste system in India could have lasted for as long as it supposedly did, from the start of the Aryan invasion up till modern times, almost completely unchanged. If the Aryan invasion of India was thousands of years ago, how did such a totalitarian social system remain standing all this time? How was it so stable? However if the Aryan invasion happened during the Middle Ages, only a thousand years ago or less, then totally plausible to maintain such a system.
 
Only a foreign conquest justifies the existence of a caste system. Why else would a caste sytem originate in India. It does not make sense to subjugate your own people, for crying out loud! However subjugate a conquered people, totally plausible. And I have a difficulty believing that the caste system in India could have lasted for as long as it supposedly did, from the start of the Aryan invasion up till modern times, almost completely unchanged. If the Aryan invasion of India was thousands of years ago, how did such a totalitarian social system remain standing all this time? How was it so stable? However if the Aryan invasion happened during the Middle Ages, only a thousand years ago or less, then totally plausible to maintain such a system.
Actually there's evidence that the caste system is a british creation, imposed on india and since the authorities during the colonial period were pretty much puppets and it gave them power, it was established as indian culture.

There's a book written by 2 indian authors about it but unfortunaly i suck at remember names. So there's a real possibility that this stupid caste system is quite new
 
Similar skyscrapers can be found in modern United States, Germany, Dubai, and China. They are all part of the same globalist capitalist civilization. These buildings belong to either the same architectural school or group of schools, or they belong to the same views or biases or assumptions that the builders had for architecture.

We only know that skyscrapers are part of our current civilisation because we have a detailed and specific chronology regarding their inception and their adoption across the world. If we were having this discussion (and I use the word lightly) 300 years in the future after the loss of that chronology, you would probably be telling me that Skyscraparia was a Russian centred global civilisation because all the buildings look the same.

So, produce a detailed chronology for this alleged architectural style showing its inception in northern Scandinavia and Siberia, then its gradual spread down to Russia, through the Balkans, into Bulgaria (but not Greece,) into Persia and Iran, ending up in India. Without that this alleged architectural style could have started anywhere at any time and spread in any direction.

If I'm not mistaken, you're the guy who wrote an article "disproving" the Ancient Aryan theory. Hence you are invested in trying to uphold your own theory, and disprove mine, because our theories are polar opposites.
I understand what you're in here for.

You clearly understand nothing whatsoever about me and I've already warned you once about your vacuous assumptions. I have a website where the subject of the Aryans is discussed in detail - not to disprove it, but to understand it and try to clear the subject of all the crap that's been associated with it. I try very hard not to "preach," but to analyse, reinterpret events and information, then draw speculative conclusions that very often change from one article to the next - you know, like 'learning' ...remember that?

What exactly are you here for?

Hinduism was definitely a thing in India before the arrival of the Aryans.

Definitely? That statement requires evidence.

But what a Middle Ages Aryan invasion of India explains most of all is the caste system. This is a system which forbids all social movement and self improvement for the lower castes. It is a system designed to segregate and subjugate.

In my considered opinion and that of many Indian scholars, the caste system was mutilated and turned into a weapon of division control by the British East India Company and its mercenary administration. Originally it was an integral part of Sanātana Dharma, the "noble" or the natural and eternal way to live, very similar to the Persian / Iranian concept of 'Farr' and European Chivalry. Likewise, the term 'Hinduism' was also a British colonial imposition.

It does not make sense to subjugate your own people, for crying out loud!

It just doesn't make sense to you because you don't understand it. Within Sanātana Dharma social status centred upon the concept of ‘Heimarmene’ or the "dominion of Fate." It may be compared to an individual’s karmic circumstances. Free will or freedom from the unconscious compunction of karmic conditioning and the play of external ‘spiritual’ forces, or Fate, was not ‘god-given’. It was something that had to be realised, activated and only then used. Without liberation from the dominion of Fate, we become slaves to it through our self-identification with name and form and personal history. This is the state of the majority of humankind. The way out of Heimarmene was through personal enlightenment. One’s place within In pre-colonial Indian society was determined by this ‘Heimarmene’ principle and defined one’s role in life. Within this system there was an awareness that ‘not all men [or women] are created equal’ and certainly within the previous society in India there was even a degree of choice. Morality was based upon honour and honesty (nobility) so that even in situations that we today may consider unjust there was no malice or mistreatment involved. Servants and aristocrats could behave with mutual respect for each other knowing that Fate could deal either an unexpected blow at any time.

If the Aryan invasion of India was thousands of years ago, how did such a totalitarian social system remain standing all this time? How was it so stable? However if the Aryan invasion happened during the Middle Ages, only a thousand years ago or less, then totally plausible to maintain such a system.

If your Aryan Invasion didn't happen at all, but was instead a peaceful integration, it's even more plausible and doesn't require any chronological gymnastics.

According to him, the Vedas describes a land in which there is half year day, half year night, a phenomenon which can be seen in North Russia Arctic Shore.

And anywhere else within the Arctic Circle. I notice you never mention the Zend-Avesta or anything to do with the Persian / Iranian civilisation. Tilak mentions it a great deal in his book and highlights the very close similarity between Sanskrit and the Avestan languages, plus the common origin of both the Zend-Avesta and the Vedas...

“The Vedic and the Avestic evidence clearly establish the existence of a primeval Polar home, the climate of which was mild and temperate.” (Tilak)

Please note: "Polar" not North Russia Arctic Shore.
 
This is an interesting thread, not necessarily for the right reasons, but an interesting thread none the less.
The idea that these groups of people shared a similar "cultural heritage" is one that I'm willing to entertain but much of the "evidence" presented here is based on propaganda and deceit as is detailed in many threads throughout the website.
You've made a lot of claims but not really shown where you've obtained such information (yes i can see the pictures). Maybe that would be a good way to inject some "credibility" matvei.
Also to all the more seasoned members, I agree with almost all of what you're saying. But why don't we let metvei get out what it is he's trying to impart before taking a big old shit on the ideas. No one here really knows anything for sure and we all started somewhere and came into this with less knowledge that what we now have.
 
So what am I trying to say here? My point is that Russia had it worse than most other countries. The only countries that had it worse were the Native Americans (total genocide) and the Africans (enslavement). So it stands that there was plenty of time, plenty of wars, revolutions, coups, and cultural cleansing, to wipe out the Ancient Russian culture, religion, architecture, traditions. What we have now is a mere meager crumbs of what Russia once was culturally.

England had Civil Wars in the mid seventeenth century, but most people for some reason, don't count those events as any kind of coup or culture cleansing, but they were exactly that. They enabled the readmission of the Jews and their eventual total control of the financial and political life of the country. Once re-established, they picked up where they left off - to paraphrase, 'to wipe out the Ancient British culture, religion, architecture, traditions. What we have now are meager crumbs of what Britain once was culturally.' This same story has happened throughout most of the world.
 
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