SH Archive The missing link to ancient power

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Tart Aryan
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Username: Jaska
Date: 2019-10-31 11:58:42
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Would that technique require that much water ?
If hydrogen burns & only leaves heat & water, wouldn't it be normal to reuse that water ?
 
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Username: jd755
Date: 2019-10-31 12:13:27
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Brain cell went 'ping' and duckduckgo and thregister found these chaps.
https://www.bloomenergy.com/
TheRegister article is from 2010 so I didn't realise how far back it was when I first heard of thee things.
I used to use a hydrogen torch r lead burning a long time ago. Never produced a lot of heat and no visible steam. Beyond that I have no anwer to your questions. Luxumburg is really small so how muh water could the people drink in a day or a year?
 
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Username: Jaska
Date: 2019-10-31 12:33:07
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It was said, their need for water would be extremely high & would be 10% of the drinkingwater, if they had to rely on that, especially during summer months. They would normally take it from a nearby river, if there was enough water, but yet noone has permission to take out that much water from the rivers.

The final decision if they settle here is not yet taken, but they own yet land, size about 50 soccer fields.

Hard to find exact data about how much drinkwater used daily in Luxembourg, numbers I found vary slighty, but it could be 120 000 m3 daily.

Thanks for the links ?
 
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Username: Tart Aryan
Date: 2019-10-31 12:37:16
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Don’t have a lot of time to respond to all of this this morning, but I wanted to address what I think Wheeler is missing. I think he’s absolutely right about dielectricity and Magnetism. What I think he’s missing is that dielectricity induces a different field. An electric field. You have a parallel opposite to magnetism. It behaves exactly the same only it exists in dielectric and diamagnetic objects. Leedskalnin mentioned this as magnetic current and was laughed at. Magnetic current induces an electric field. Electric current induces a magnetic field when applied to a conductor. Electric fields are made in an insulator. I have searched for this opposite unknown “force” for 15 years. Why I’m so positive that it exists is because recently there were major problems with electronics being made smaller and smaller and the classical electrodynamics wasn’t working in designs. The solution to these problems was quantum electrodynamics which I’m not too concerned with. But, then there is also one fundamental change that I said finally ok I am on the right path. They had to“invent” a “virtual” current called “magnetic current” that is an inverse to electricity and uses the same formulas. They need it for calculations in some interesting stuff, unfortunately they don’t acknowledge it’s real. From my understanding to create an elecret you would need “magnetic current.” Magnetic current in an insulator creates an electric field around the insulator. Electric current in a conductor creates an electric field.

I am positive there are two inverse forces like 2 snakes wrapping around a rod. Science is reluctantly moving to this truth to be able to progress.

Here is the reverse of static electricity in a conductor. Science tells us when you remove the electric current the magnetic field goes away... looks like they’re missing something. It’s also interesting that the only part of the wire touching the 2 pieces of metal was insulated too, no? I wonder how wheeler would explain this.

 
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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2019-10-31 14:08:20
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Torsion? Concentric rings you could manually separate that set up an attractive field... Babbling.
The cones... Similar to power units in Philadelphia Experiment. Once they got it goin, they had a real hard time shutting it down.
I think that also reflects on what went down with the former electric grid. Feedback loop. IF there got to be too much particulate matter in the atmosphere from volcanoes, earthquakes, etc, it could have overloaded the system's ability to transfer.
Clean those poles!
Tesla used a lot of copper. What's conductive difference between elements used? Gold, silver, copper...
 
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Username: Tart Aryan
Date: 2019-10-31 14:32:16
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Another interesting thing about that is that people put leads on those pieces and when you separate them they release electricity. It’s like electrical locking instead of magnetic locking.
 
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Username: madroona
Date: 2019-10-31 15:02:20
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It would be most interesting to suspend one of the two blocks perpendicular to the downward force, and see how long the attractive force can hold on.
 
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Username: Tart Aryan
Date: 2019-10-31 16:11:18
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People have made them and hung them up for 10 years and they still hold.

@Dielectric maybe you can see the funnels I was talking about better in this image. It's got it's issues but it illustrates the black hole white hole point. I think this setup is the same in smaller objects.

A-Torus-as-a-dynamic-model-for-the-recreation-rebirth-of-our-Universe-from-a-wormhole.jpg
 
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Username: Dielectric
Date: 2019-10-31 16:17:01
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Sorry for that babbling I scribbled. There's a few errors which should be corrected but let's continue. It's not that you're wrong. I don't think you're wrong. I think maybe I was a little too tired when I scribbled the last.

Yea, great video and a new one to me. I'm familiar with and have read Ed's work. It's a twist on the PMH and a cool one too.

The insulation is doing what? Insulator is what a dielectric is by nature and so what's happening is that instead of creating electricity or magnetism, you've reversed the process and recombined the electrical polarized fields back into a mass which is now back to holding a dielectric field: An incoherent field, which now acts like a woven mat binding together the whole as one, so that energy is now interlaced between the blocks in an unpolarized field which is the dielectric field itself.

Despite what he says in the video that block is still going to have a magnetic field, just that it isn't going to have coherent magnetic field like a magnet.

Basically it's a demonstration of gravity by incoherent magnetism induced by an electromagnetic charge. BTW, a really great find and cool video.

You may have a another perspective which, whether right or wrong, could lead to other significant understandings, because we are on the edge with all this, and even if it is all a well traveled path known by the Military Industrial Complex, the understanding of how this all works is relatively new to ourselves and we are in a discovery phase.

I can understand what you're saying and why you're saying it; "I am positive there are two inverse forces like 2 snakes wrapping around a rod"

If the snakes each represent two ends of a dipole, (the polar opposites as it were), then the rod is the carrier around which both are wrapped. Is this what you're seeing?
 
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Username: Dielectric
Date: 2019-10-31 17:09:33
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I see the attraction.
Maybe this term of a dielectric is confusing because if you look up "dielectric" you get this explanation that it's an insulator and then it shows an image where there's two charges held apart by an insulating material: A dielectric material.

We are trained to think this insulator is just that and it's keeping energy apart or contained. We aren't trained in the reverse and that a dielectric is a conductor of dielectric energy which is both polarities mixed into one form. Thus the pole the twin interlaced snakes wrap themselves around is this dielectric conduit.

One could say that what you're really seeing with a dielectric insulator is a dielectric conductor. That is, this conductor is literally filling with energy from surrounding space; energy from the ether as it were. In the video the process is reversed and the blocks are bonded together by a dielectric energy field and that field is itself incoherent magnetism.

As you know Ed said there was no such thing as electrons, only tiny, tiny, magnets. That's how Ed envisioned the dielectric field and it's not necessarily incorrect but rather a simplified view.

Video One

It works because you are a dielectric; and that means you're the one which provides a conduit that the coherent magnetic dielectric field is attempting to incorporate.

When you become attached to the magnets it induces a stress on the magnetic field, which means you're now part of dielectric circuit, but one which is both incoherent and also outside of the otherwise coherent magnetic field.

The coherent magnetic field is made up from organized dielectric energy, not polarized but organized and focused, and now that you're introducing yourself into this matrix of organized coherent dielectric energy we call magnetism it produces a stress upon the magnetic field.

The consequence of this act is that the magnetic must now divert off in order to flow through and in to a large dielectric mass, which is you, and in order to do that it must polarize into coherent fields to complete a circuit through your body. This demonstrates what I mean by stressing the dielectric field BTW.

Therefore, at two points the magnets have polarized and the center is the bloch wall which is ground, because counterspace is ground and that's where the magnetic point source is located. Thus he can touch either pole and get nothing, but touch ground and instantly he has power.

This is a testable hypothesis I've whipped up to explain the behavior. Logic says that any suitable dielectric mass should also be able to replicate this instead of using your own body. Naturally a smaller and better dielectric should also be capable of replicating the same results.

"4 Magnetic Poles and White Light."
The second video is lost in misconceptions about the nature of light. We should post that to KD's thread on light.
Hubble Telescope and the Olbers' paradox: where is the space dust?
Olbers' paradox
 
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Username: Tart Aryan
Date: 2019-10-31 20:45:46
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As for the snakes not two ends of a dipole more like two separate forces of energy each with + - end swirling in a helical spiral in opposition to each other.

As for your explaination to explain away the Leedskalnin it follows one path I don’t. It explains something with words rather than actions. If you truly understood what was happening here, you’d be making so many new discoveries you wouldn’t know where to start. I have read Wheelers book and watched almost all of his videos. If he has the understanding he thinks he does he’d be reinventing everything. He’d be showing us new things we’d Never seen before similar to that leedskalnin effect in scope. What he does instead is takes already well known and beaten to death science experiments and puts his twist on them with words not actions. Someone truly making breakthroughs would be able to show drastic new things that could not be ignored. I haven’t seen that from him. He is 100% on the right track though in his Dielectric thinking. I 100% agree with him like I said he’s just missing the other side of it which keeps him from truly putting it all together and changing everything. In my search I have found 11 things through my own experimentation that aren’t explainable by science. I work with engineers and am currently in school at night for engineering. I show some of the things to engineers and professors and they have no idea. Some of them get the truth search bug just from seeing it. Only one of these though is something I’ve yet to stumble onto someone else's discovery of them. What I cannot do is profess to know how it all works because I found something unexplainable. Just learning several small things has given me the ability to do other things not seen or understood. Imagine what I could do given true fundamental and complete understanding. I wouldn’t know where to start.

Please don’t interpret any of this as anything other than we are brainstorming, collaborating, and testing and probing each others thinking. I love that and truly appreciate everything you’ve added and others no matter how small or big the contribution. I can easily operate in my life with the complete understand I know nothing. I have no problem with any speculation or any thought no matter how absurd it seems. Throw it all my way. Perhaps I’ve overlooked something, maybe that one little thing pushes me further. Nothing is off the table until everything can be explained and demonstrating and new advances made. So please don’t stop posting your thoughts and don’t be afraid to push mine. 2 things you posted really helped me. We’ll never find the truth unless we push each other and teach other.
 
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Username: Jaska
Date: 2019-10-31 21:02:40
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So that process has made the atoms bond together, in a way up & downward forces cannot break, but sidewards forces can.

Could this have to do with the thin layer of air that is still inbetween before that electromagnetic process ?
Dry air is dielectric, although it contains always bit of watervapor.
Professors & other researchers r not allowed to think outside the official box ! Most just want to keep their job, some aren't able due to indoctrination. There is so much suppressed knowledge, twisted truth or relative bullshit & absolute nonsense !

We know next to nothing about WATER. It's special, very special, doesn't follow the laws of physics.
It's a solvent, cleaner, transporter & transmitter of energy. It has memory, it takes on all of the frequency patterns of stuff it comes in touch with. It's everywhere, even in the air we breathe.

The crystalline structure of water (tetrahedron) can be destroyed, like when water is flowing through straight pipes. It can be restructured through swirling, vortexes or minerals like rose quartz, amethyst, rock crystal, ... . It is the geometric pattern, crystalline structure that contains the energy, information, not the matter itself.
 
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Username: madroona
Date: 2019-11-01 00:15:39
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Thin consistent and engineered layers, with naturally-occurring mica deposits not in the regions involved. I wish I could remember more!
 
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Username: pushamaku
Date: 2019-11-01 03:39:35
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What are these things you are showing them?
 
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Username: 19m46437h3R
Date: 2019-11-01 04:32:43
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What is this Dielectric actually? Is it insulator as Science told? Or it refers to something else?
 
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Username: Dielectric
Date: 2019-11-01 08:43:33
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That is correct, you are correct; however I think it's possible that it's really one force moving two directions. The best illustration I have for this is a counter flow. See the gif in the link. The file is too large to save for viewing here.


Superfluid helium counterflow animation shows a friction free zero viscosity superflow in the opposite direction of normal gaseous dusty matter.
Kapitza Superfluid Jet Powered Spider Galaxy Cosmology Model

As per Wheeler, there really is neither a positive nor a negative, only one energy appearing to flow two directions.

Now as far as I know we really don't know what this energy is composed of. The historical research I've done shows that around the turn of the last century it was recognized that the ether was composed of something which behaved like a liquid, but obviously was not a liquid, and the closest thing we had to such a substance was liquid helium. From there the work advanced to create a means for producing liquid helium in large amounts, and afterwards to develop isotopes of helium such as III & IV. (*Rutherford and Kipitza).

I think in retrospect we can see this was the beginning of a pathway taken which lead to so-called UFO's and the result of this creation was, in fact, the destruction of academia as a real tool of science, and instead it became a tool for repression of enlightenment under the banner of national security.

So all we really know is that a substance, one which is mimicking a sort of super-ubber-ubber-superfluid, and one which is moving at a very high velocity, many billions of times the speed of light (speed of light is dependent on a rate of induction) is what creates gravity and all other energy.

What I've concluded is that what we think we know is that this energy behaves like a superfluid, and that the inertial kinetic energy carried by this substance, whatever it really may be, is what results in the production of energies. Thus, what seems to be taking place (energy wise) is that matter, in all its' various forms, and being in the way of this moving energy does perturb it in certain ways, such that for example, although it normally passing through matter unimpeded, it still reacts with it in certain fashion, and in most matter this energy we call the ether takes a curved path towards the center of mass before exiting and continuing on.

Thanks, this actually helps me to understand where you're coming from. Now I'm in my 60's which isn't that old, but still If I figure correctly I've used five of my possible nine lives, so probably not too many more foolish things I should try.

We all think we can do a lot at your age but shit happens, then before you know what hit you the next thing you know your little world is blown apart by some disaster, one day you wake up and suddenly ten years or more have swept by and you still haven't done jack. Lo;~

Do what you can, where you can, with the best intentions. That's all you can do and then hope that what you've done matters. Remember only 2% do anything, so if you've done something you're already in an elite group. * Lol

I do what I am trained to do academically and by natural talent, such as it is, but all I can really do is research and connect dots and then to try to paint a picture of what I think it says, and after that I can only hope people read what I write and improve upon it. Don't think you will be any different or that whatever you produce will be treated any differently.

Now with Wheeler just recognize he has done a great thing, whatever the faults may be, his book is undoubtedly the most important book ever written on magnetism, and because of that it is likely history will record it as an important text of the last century, possibly the most important scientific text, though I don't expect that to happen until the rich man's cabal is overthrown.
Certainly Ken's thinking is bound to have errors, but it's a new path, and from what I've discovered it is on the correct path. It gives us new thinking and the material to understand the path that lead to gravitational control and then to hyperspatial vechicles. It may be flawed and it may need refining but that's what you're for, it's why Universe created you and why you're critical, and that's because Universe knows best and knows this is necessary. Universe wants humans to succeed but we have to overcome the challenges it allows, because unless we can do this we cannot succeed out in the Universe itself. Call it an extinction intelligence test.
To answer you directly;
Tart Aryan and I have been wrestling over issues related to this question. My short answer is: We don't know what it is, we only know that it is all around us, and that it can be made into either a magnet or electricity.

It is a bamboozling bit of electrical terminology. Believe me it is a question I've asked myself over and over, and it's not just me either, over on this other forum, a place where electronics engineers, hobbyists, and problem makers complain, they too have this same problem.

Before anything understand this; like all our messed up science and physics it begins with a corruption of truth. The reason you need to know that is so that you don't just swallow down the idea that electron theory is some proven concept. It works well up to a certain point but was never approved by Tesla, Farnsworth, and even J.J. Thompson himself didn't go along with it until he sold out for fame and fortune.

Now that you know that you can proceed with trying to figure out what a dielectric actually is.

The official definition is it's a material that acts like an insulator, and it is, it has to be an insulator or else we would all be fried if the ether which surrounds all of us is really made of energy that wasn't also insulated from itself. Probably where the idea for the big bang came from, stupid as it is in the first place, but just saying.

The air for example is an insulator. Yet it's filled with counterspace. Counterspace is Nick Cooks Zero Point Energy Field, Tesla's Radiant Energy, and it's real and correct name came from Steinmetz who called it Counterspace, but these are all the same energy, only with different names, but that field of energy is what fills the Universe and it is a dielectric energy field.

How do we know this? Because a magnet proves it, that is, a magnet can exist anywhere, in any place, at any time, and because we can now even see the magnetic field in it's holographic form with a ferrocell lens, we can also be relatively sure of how it works and what's creating it, and this is why Ken Wheelers book and theory of a simplex dielectric Universe is significant.

To me a dielectric is a conductor of dielectric energy (counterspace). In some instances some dielectrics can accumulate energy from the either. Quartz does this. Man made substances can now recreate the piezoelectric effect.
Thanks, So the crystalline shape of water is a tetrahedron, I can't recall reading that but it seems familiar, however it clearly says something and thanks for posting that.
 
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Username: Jaska
Date: 2019-11-01 11:33:44
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Water is a liquid crystal. It's literally everywhere, either solid, liquid or as vapor.
It reacts to words & emotions. Look for Masaru Emoto.

As far as I can grasp it is electromagnetism, one does not exist without the other. If there is a magnetic field, there is electricity ( flow of electrons or holes) & if there is electricity, there is a magnetic field.
There is no gravity, it is magnetism.

Atoms can be paramagnetic (attracted) or diamagnetic (repelled). Oyxgen being paramagnetic is slighty attracted to magnets, I recall reading about experiments with magnets placed next to fuel to increase the burning of the flames.

What about liquid air ? It's up there where the temperatures are very low, think it's around minus 194° C when air turns into a blue pale MOBILE liquid. And not that far up there, very close. Forget the HELIOcentric impossi.BAAL. we live inside an electromagnetic realm, we r in an air pocket in a water world, literally. The sun is a projection of light in a layer of liquid air. The stars r the electromagnetic frequency fence that separates the water above (liquid air or heavy saltwater) & the air.
 
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Username: madroona
Date: 2019-11-01 12:27:55
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Perhaps oblique to the conversion, but since the thread wanders, I thought to ask something I have pondered a long time on: why waves? Why do we accept the idea of waves without question? To accept a wave requires some object or action the repeatedly recaptures or retains an escaping something. We have all seen a sine wave metaphor on an oscilloscope and automatically visualize the wave passing through the space around us. We all discuss light "waves" or particles if you will, as just how it is, but .. why? What central force maintains the tangent of the path of the wave?

I try to keep my thoughts in this arena at "street level" to try an keep it manageable, but it may not be possible. I have a growing theory on light that destroys the myth (in my opinion) as to how vision works, but will keep it to myself for the time being as I work it out.

PS: is there a TOTY Award? {Thread of the Year}
 
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