The Third Reich - Part 1

[Deleted member 37]

So this is an aspect of the discussion that needs to be addressed. I have repeatedly noticed that the first way to disprove an alternative look at WW2 is to come up with arguments such as:

All these "regimes" all these brands and labels are nothing but political entertainment used as entourage to this older.

People placed in positions of influence were there only because they were a part of the plan, all of it completely controlled and without any other intention but to further the plan forward.

The list could go on and on...

Even though at first glance these comments are logical and based on common sense, they don't bring anything to the table and are usually used on social medias as the first step to invalidate different points of view.
You ALWAYS find this 'depression vibe' comments under WW2 alternative points of view which risk to subvert the current narrative of the Allies as great heroes saving the world by bringing democracy and communism.
They are generally followed by comments such "the Nazees blablabla... Antarctic blablabla... NASA blablabla... Homosexual Mustache blablabla", all founded on pure speculation without any substantial evidence. And meanwhile the evidence presented in the post is set aside and the main purpose of the discussion is changed.
Then another kind of comments pops up such as "You Fasssscist, Nazeeeests, Anti-semiticssssts, Mustache Apologistssssts etc." At that point the discussion is suppressed and the initial comment deleted.

Is it possible to avoid these 'whatever comments' and speak instead of the evidence presented in the OP? Does it hurt so much to see that those Junior school tales are just exquisite pieces of propaganda?

So I want to ask @freygeist if he wants to speak about one of the most important events happened in that time period, in my opinion: the arrest of Louis Nathaniel de Rothschild (Louis Nathaniel de Rothschild - Wikipedia). Funny to see how the wiki article is translated only in 6 languages: English, العربية, Deutsch, Hrvatski, Italiano, مصرى... and a specific article on the arrest is nowhere to be found!

This is one of those subjects which irritates brainwashed people so much... Big Mustache arrested a Wrathchild, the only one in known history to do it!!!

It would be a pleasure to know more about it AND annoy the sheep a little bit!

 

[Deleted member 1432]

Personally, I much prefer being a romantic, sentimental fantasist than a miserable, defeatist coward just waiting for Armageddon - to my mind that's really falling for 'the plan'.

one of the most important events happened in that time period, in my opinion: the arrest of Louis Nathaniel de Rothschild

An interesting event indeed:

Personally, I think it was a massive hoax and simply a way of covering up a huge Rothschild's donation to the NSDAP. I mean, they released him afterwards they didn't put him in a 'concentration' camp - they released him and nothing happened... apart from the agreement between them to send Jews to colonise Israel of course.

 

[Deleted member 37]

Personally, I think it was a massive hoax and simply a way of covering up a huge Rothschild's donation to the NSDAP. I mean, they released him afterwards they didn't put him in a 'concentration' camp - they released him and nothing happened... apart from the agreement between them to send Jews to colonise Israel of course.

All of this leads to Argentina and ultimately Antarctica. I know how much this is one of the favourite themes on conspiracy theories' websites, but it is nonetheless used to subtly justify the Allies' intervention under the command of the Rottenchildren. Most of the time this happens at a subconscious level.
I personally don't see why Mustache should have done all of this, while the even bigger financial help to the Bolsheviks happened almost under the sun, with Trotsky befriending the banksters and being a certified Jew, contrary to Musty who certainly didn't love that particular kin. So I still think that compromise, the political art, was at the base of that event. I understand that an extreme and controversial figure such that of BM can be subjected to any kind of speculation, but why trying to say that he is(was) alive after WW2 if not for trying to justify that single event? Isn't it much more easy to say that he tried a compromise that could 'free' Germany from their influence? One could say this is a silly thought, but I think he was well aware he was against half the world... that was common knowledge. So giving a try and hoping in a good result could be a viable strategy, imo.
In any case it has to be remembered that the pact to colonize modern Israel was achieved inside the British Empire and anti-semitic laws were inacted by USSR before Hitler came to power. So I still think that Germany had to be removed since Germans had discovered the 'truth' after the special WW1 treatment. Those Germans formed their party to get in the way of the international oligarchy's plan.
Isn't it similar to our current covid thing? I see a lot of people speaking of things just a few people spoke about just 2 years ago. And these people are frequently labeled 'fascists' or 'nazis' by social media platforms, with possible contempt on the part of those who feel offended since they fought against the eeeevil nazeeees to free the world. I have to say that social medialites get a point here. They are the true liberal-commies, so much more than those with red flags upon their beds. And the rest are fascists, even though they don't know, which is a true benefit for the PPTTBBBPTBPTT.

In any case I would like to know the German point of view, meaning with this some newspaper articles or researches done in Germany on the subject. I wonder if something new or different could come out.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

Isn't it much more easy to say that he tried a compromise that could 'free' Germany from their influence?

Are you talking about the kidnapping scenario here? If so, then absolutely yes. It was the ideal solution to the age old 'Jewish Problem', but I would imagine that Rothschild made it a condition of his financial aid that it was presented as an act of intimidation rather than an open donation. That's what I meant by "a hoax," maybe I should have been more explicit - sorry.

I don't quite follow how this would lead to Argentina and Antarctica though.

The British Secret Service was up to its neck in the Russian Revolution and the vast majority of the new Soviet government (or whatever they called it) was comprised of Jews from New York, USA. The creation of Israel was also a British achievement following the Rothschild's Balfour Agreement blackmail during WWI - not forgetting that Churchill was Zionist and a Jew himself... and a traitor just like his great great grandfather. The Treaty of Versailles was barbaric and that's where I see the similarity with the COVID plandemic - it brought a permanent 'State of Emergency' down on Germany and a 'New Normal' for all Germans - especially those who then found themselves outside of Germany.

Those Germans formed their party to get in the way of the international oligarchy's plan.

When 'the worm turned', as it surely would, then finance for the NSDAP arrived from the same sources that had been holding German by the b*llox since the Treaty. Hence the 65 thousand dollar questions: who knew about what and who was in bed with whom? Then when you bring Mussolini and Franco into the picture it gets even more complicated. (Don't worry, I'm not going to even attempt to answer either of those questions )

Those three men - Hitler, Mussolini and Franco - have been utterly denigrated and made into demons to be hated and despised for all time. They even dug Franco's body up a while ago just to be even more vindictive. The 'great unwashed' as we are known, have been thoroughly conditioned to be ninjas in the hating and despising department. Then you get all the Fourth Reich stuff with their flying saucers, bases on the Moon, blah blah blah...

It's a total mess. What chance does anyone have of sorting all of that out? Maybe there were so many different agendas going on at once that it really was all just complete and utter confusion that now has no sense to be found in it whatsoever and probably didn't have much more back then either.

 

[Deleted member 37]

Are you talking about the kidnapping scenario here? If so, then absolutely yes. It was the ideal solution to the age old 'Jewish Problem', but I would imagine that Rothschild made it a condition of his financial aid that it was presented as an act of intimidation rather than an open donation. That's what I meant by "a hoax," maybe I should have been more explicit - sorry.

To explain it better: I don't really think there was a hoax or covering up. If the NSDAP took money (not verified though and these threads give a better explanation, imo), then it acted as every other political subject fully 'immersed' in a context where money was already in the firm hand of the Rothschilds. The passage of power from the previous aristocracy to the new one happened in the 19th century (with many people of the old guard jumping on the new bandwagon -learned the word from you Will).
But in any case the question is whether the cover up would have been necessary in the first place. Who should not have known about it? Obviously not the head of the party, that would have been impossible. Maybe the bulk of the party? The militia? If so, then why the one exposing it was a guy named Sydney Warburg? If it is a real name, then it is suspicious and unbelievable, since that would amount to a confession of guilt by a member of the 'families'! And if it's a deep fake then this is someone who is actually trying to put the 'families' in a bad light and striking the nazeeees at the same time. This is much more likely, since the modern world is now divided in two factions at war with each other but both against the eeeevil nazeeees.

In terms of propaganda the 'cover up/hoax' plot makes no sense to me, imo. There really is no need to cover up anything since we live in a world where you can't really talk about these things, since there is a socially democratic progressive censorship. In fact I would say that the 'cover up/hoax theory' is the real cover up. To sum it up:

• narrative: nazeeees bad, eeeeeevil mustache;
• counter-narrative: behind the motivations for the intervention (many of which made their way in people consciousness only after many years... of preparation, I would say) there were economic reasons. And also the very important reason to preserve power, since the families are behind most of the events of the 19th century, but their name is nowhere to be seen. Hitler took prisoner the Robschild and exchanged him with a huge sum of money. Taking him prisoner or 'sending him to concentration camps' makes no sense, since he was arrested in 1938, while WW2 began in 1939;
• counter-counter-narrative: the nazis arrested and then left him go and this is proof they received payment.

The third line clearly helps the first one and this is why it doesn't sound well with me. The third line (counter-counter-narrative) is also openly discussed on many social media, with little to no censorship, while the second one (counter-narrative) is totally censored everywhere. That settles it for me!

I don't quite follow how this would lead to Argentina and Antarctica though.

Following what I have said just now, it is obvious that Hitler could not die according to the counter-counter-narrative. He was the secret Ally of the Allies. A sort of King of Kings of eeeevil. Therefore it is necessary to this narrative to keep him alive somewhere. Why not Argentina? Those Catholic nazeeees scumbags want their islands back? Let's give them some iron and mustaches!

Obviously Will and everybody, I am not saying anything to promote the stupid brotherly war (Falkland reference).

 

[freygeist]

So I want to ask @freygeist if he wants to speak about one of the most important events happened in that time period, in my opinion: the arrest of Louis Nathaniel de Rothschild (Louis Nathaniel de Rothschild - Wikipedia). Funny to see how the wiki article is translated only in 6 languages: English, العربية, Deutsch, Hrvatski, Italiano, مصرى... and a specific article on the arrest is nowhere to be found!

This is one of those subjects which irritates brainwashed people so much... Big Mustache arrested a Wrathchild, the only one in known history to do it!!!

It would be a pleasure to know more about it AND annoy the sheep a little bit!

I plan to adress this whole angle, who was on which side, further in the next part. There is not much information about this specific abduction though, even in german literature.
But the bigger problem is, i have to work two jobs now because of the corona measures, so i rarely have the time and energy to focus on the subject. Hopefully, when the winter comes, i can get back at it.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

I have found some information on the 'colonists for Palestine' issue in a book entitled "The Secret Contacts-Zionism And Nazi Germany 1933-1941. I haven't read it all, so I don't know if it covers the kidnapping, but it may give a clue as to why Rothschild didn't want the Haavara scheme made common knowledge. On the other hand the two events may not be related at all:

"This also resulted in "selectiveness." As the agreement demanded a minimum payment of a thousand pounds from the emigrant, only members of the .Jewish bourgeoisie were able to avail themselves of its advantages, while workers of Jewish origin were left to their fate.™ Thus in a recent examination of fascist racial policy, the following evaluation of the Haavara agreement can be considered perfectly just: "The solidarity principle that required the Jews in Germany to stand against their persecutors was torn asunder by capitalist interests. Pecunia nanolet. Meanwhile, the measures undertaken by Jewish contractors with the sole aim of bringing capital out of fascist Germany to Palestine were receiving a high degree of consecration. It was claimed that the capital brought over to the Near East was placed at the service of the Jews. In reality however, in Palestine it served the same purpose as it did before in Germany: the profit interests of its owners.

"The same book affirms that "the Zionist International wanted the Jewish emigrants from Germany to arrive on Palestinian soil not as have-nots, but as owners of capital that would help in the building of a capitalist state. Out of this desire, grew the Zionist interest to unite themselves with the anti-Semites. Indeed, prior to the (founding of Israel, the Haavara transfer was a
huge booster for the Zionist economy in Palestine. Zionist sources speak oi a sum of 1 39.6 million Reichmarks — an enormous sum for that time--being transferred from Germany to Palestine."

 

[Deleted member 37]

There is not much information about this specific abduction though, even in german literature.

I don't know if it covers the kidnapping

The use of the term abduction and kidnapping is very suspect, imo. It was an arrest, why calling it an abduction if not to put in bad light the abducter? Quite convenient!
The disappearance of information is even more suspect. The tecnique of losing primary sources and then casually finding them after many years is renown. There is plenty of time to fabricate new 'evidence'.

a clue as to why Rothschild didn't want the Haavara scheme made common knowledge

I have not read the book too, but I want to say that here as much as in every other aspect, the Rothschild simply could not show publicly the undergoing agreements, since the soon-to-be-Israel had already declared war on Germany. This shows, by the way, that Jewish people are not a monolithic army of eeevil, as some reactionaries would expect.
I personally think that these agreements were nothing that special, since they are part of what we currently know as politics. Mustache-guy wanted to kick out the Jews from Greater Germany according to his own principles for the creation of an ethno-state. Since Israel had already been programmed by the British Empire under the Roths, a deal was the most easy thing to do to solve the question without more brutal methods. IMO