SH Archive The Tower of Babel, Hendrick Van Cleve, and the Hendrick Van Cleve III group

[Xanvast]

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Username: Xanvast
Date: 2020-08-18 03:08:15
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If we postulate that Rome was Babylon (Babelon ) -which the book of revelations seem to point at also- anybody sees anything of importance that would result of it ?

 

[EUAFU]

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Username: EUAFU
Date: 2020-08-18 07:19:29
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The Tower of Babel was not a real tower and it was destroyed by God.
It is a story about human arrogance and how it leads to ruin.
It was also a good explanation of how the various human languages came about.
If such a colossal tower had ever existed, there would have been some indication in ancient maps, or in ancient legends somewhere and especially some gigantic remnant of the base of the structure.

If we postulate that Rome was Babylon (Babelon ) -which the book of revelations seem to point at also- anybody sees anything of importance that would result of it ?

Rome is not Babylon. Babylon is just a figure of speech for any place where materialism, usury, prostitution, greed, injustice, opulence derived from injustice, etc. prevail.

In other words, Babylon is any city or person and mainly they are psychological characteristics of people who live and promote this type of society, or even have the ideal to live that way.

The problem with the materialistic and literal view of the Bible is that this type of interpretation (markedly Protestant / Neo-Pentecostal) blinds people to what the Bible actually reveals.

It is not by chance that several Protestant sects are making predictions about the end times and millions of liters of ink have been spilled on pages of books predicting the end of the world and the signs of the end.

All useless say. The land will not be destroyed, there will be no final judgment. The end of time is when you die.

Now if you ask me if there are crazy people with money who intend to emulate the book of Revelation and create the End Times, all the evidence says yes, because they spend their time promoting this agenda. Which brings me to an extreme point where in the end the End of Times can really occur, but because of the crazy people widely called as Illuminatis and not of God.

 

[Archive]

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2020-08-18 16:59:35
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I understand, and agree, with the figurative and allegorical nature of the these things including Babylon.
However I think they (the originals- including Adam/Eve, Noah, the giants, etc.) were real and material too (just like Rome actually was real but became fake).
Everything that came after is the copy or , plus being turned backwards, etc. The story gets told/re-enacted over and over and gets faker and faker, while the original remains. This is actually why I started believing the Bible. Life imitates it.

 

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-08-20 04:23:40
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I'm wondering if Jim Duyer can answer a question regarding the ToB.
We are taught that the ToB was so that man could make a name for himself, the explanation being that the word "Shem" translates to "name". So, man wanted to make a Shem/name for himself. I've always had a problem with that translation because that would mean the biblical character named Shem would actually be named "Name".
People had some weird names back then but I doubt anyone named their kid "Name".
So what were the ToB builders making if not a name for themselves?

 

[Silencedogood]

Am I the only one who finds it odd to see all of these drawings of the tower at sea level or in a valley? Wouldn't you build a "tower to reach the heavens" on top of a mountain? Seem somewhat strange that many of these images are looking down at the tower. Maybe the preflood earth did not have large mountains since the crust had not yet crumbled and the background is just fluff...