Moonlight Towers and the Wayne County anomaly

Here is a postcard made by the Detroit publishing company of the City Hall in Detroit.
Front and centre is a moonlight tower. No attempt to hide it.

There are two buildings in Detroit that look very similar and may be causing confusion.

This is the County Building, which has the tower eliminated from the picture. Note the front facade with a pediment supported by columns.

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And this is City Hall, which clearly has a tower in front of it, and which you pictured above. Note the front facade with two courses of arches. The roof is much more Gothic too. Hints of Edward Leary or The Munsters.

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So, back to the question at hand...Why was the tower eliminated from the County Building when the towers were known to exist?

See my post above for a list of possible reasons.
 
There are two buildings in Detroit that look very similar and may be causing confusion.

This is the County Building, which has the tower eliminated from the picture. Note the front facade with a pediment supported by columns.



And this is City Hall, which clearly has a tower in front of it, and which you pictured above. Note the front facade with two courses of arches. The roof is much more Gothic too. Hints of Edward Leary or The Munsters.


So, back to the question at hand...Why was the tower eliminated from the County Building when the towers were known to exist?

See my post above for a list of possible reasons.
You miss the point of my post.
Both images of the two buildings were produced by the same company. I've looked and cannot find out if it was the same photographer.
As I said if and its a huge IF the towers were old tech and as such worthy of hiding then they wouldn't appear in any Detroit Publishing photograph.
Any other Detroit Publishing photographs with this incomplete scrubbing of tech in them?
Why was the tower eliminated from the County Building when the towers were known to exist?
Because its a ham fisted attempt to get a clean photo of the just about completed building. Ham fisted because its ham fisted. The reflection in the puddle is crystal and the dumb waiter lift is clear against the stone facade of the building.

Here is an example of a doctored image I found when digging into the Titanic mystery.
SH Archive - Our civilization did not build Titanic, Olympic or Britannic. Theirs did. Was it the Tartarian one?
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As you can see someone was erased for some reason or other.
I guess that their appearance in said image would throw doubt on the TItanic scam but that is just MY guess. I have no other evidence to support it.
The reasor for posting it here is to show an image that at least has a plausible reason for being fiddled with to hide something that was missed. Unlike the op image.
Biggest version here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Titanic's_propeller_shaft_installation.jpg
 
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Both images of the two buildings were produced by the same company. I've looked and cannot find out if it was the same photographer.
As I said if and its a huge IF the towers were old tech and as such worthy of hiding then they wouldn't appear in any Detroit Publishing photograph.
Any other Detroit Publishing photographs with this incomplete scrubbing of tech in them.

I already answered this in the original post. In every other photograph the towers wouldn't be noticed unless somebody had a magnifying glass. The one photograph with the tower close enough to be able to see it unaided has been censored. Are you also going to ignore the fact that the entire sky has been erased? Why didn't they do that on every other photograph? What is being hidden? Take closer look at the first photograph and you will see wires in the sky that aren't visible in any of the other photographs.
 
You miss the point of my post.
Both images of the two buildings were produced by the same company. I've looked and cannot find out if it was the same photographer.
As I said if and its a huge IF the towers were old tech and as such worthy of hiding then they wouldn't appear in any Detroit Publishing photograph.
Any other Detroit Publishing photographs with this incomplete scrubbing of tech in them?

Because its a ham fisted attempt to get a clean photo of the just about completed building. Ham fisted because its ham fisted. The reflection in the puddle is crystal and the dumb waiter lift is clear against the stone facade of the building.

Here is an example of a doctored image I found when digging into the Titanic mystery.
SH Archive - Our civilization did not build Titanic, Olympic or Britannic. Theirs did. Was it the Tartarian one?
As you can see someone was erased for some reason or other.
I guess that their appearance in said image would throw doubt on the TItanic scam but that is just MY guess. I have no other evidence to support it.
The reasor for posting it here is to show an image that at least has a plausible reason for being fiddled with to hide something that was missed. Unlike the op image.
Biggest version here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Titanic's_propeller_shaft_installation.jpg

If I am interpreting what you are saying correctly, you think that the picture exists for reason #4 that I stated above:

"4.) The towers were actually built in 1882 for the stated use and this picture was retouched for aesthetics. Meaning an official picture of the building was needed for the city records (or equivalent), but they didn't want that pesky tower in the shot distracting from the symmetry of the building. This would place the picture after 1882."
 
Are you also going to ignore the fact that the entire sky has been erased?
I've mentioned it before but you really do need to use the site search and wander through the archive.
Of course the wires will appear to be 'in the sky' when the camera ON THE GROUND is angled up enough and far enough away to get the entire building in its called perspective.

You have produced bugger all evidence to back your opinion of what you are looking at is what you believe it is and are resolutely ignoring my question.
What is reset?

If I am interpreting what you are saying correctly, you think that the picture exists for reason
Nothing to interpret. I made it as clear as I can.

Another question you both choose to ignore.
Who exactly is the moonlight tower in the op photo being unsuccessfully and only partially hidden from?

I get it you both believe in old world tech resets etc so are you both believing it is the people born long after the photo was taken such as us or people yet to be born, those who have lived and died, foreigners of any sort or the people alive at the time?
 
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Obviously a catastrophe happened which explains why there is mud everywhere in many of these kinds of old photographs. You say I've produced bugger all evidence well where's your evidence against it? You can't just post a few lamestream links and call it a day. I'm on here because I want to know the truth and of course in some cases there may be a simple answer but we can only go by what we see and we cannot always trust what the official sources tell us. Just because we're told these moonlight towers were nothing more than big street lights that doesn't mean that's what they originally were or how they actually functioned.
 
Obviously a catastrophe happened
That's it. An answer. Thank you.
we cannot always trust what the official sources tell us
When you've been at this for any length of time you will never trust official or mainstream at all.
a few lamestream links
Oh well. Clearly I'm barking up the wrong tree. I'll just have to stop looking because I honestly don't know where to look if you consider all those links lamestream.
I was going to dig out the 1897 National Encyclopedia to see if there was anything in there but given your ridiculing of the available online evidence there's no point.

Just because we're told these moonlight towers were nothing more than big street lights that doesn't mean that's what they originally were or how they actually functioned.
Fine. Show me some written or pictorial evidence that they pre existed their inaugural date of 1882. That would nail their old tech credentials on the wall.
No lamestream media mind.

I've been looking into leccy from the ether stories for longer than I care to remember for a purely selfish reason of not wanting to pay for a meter to measure a "flow of electrons" and over those years its become clear TO ME its bollocks.
To claim a steel tower stuck into the earth and poking into the sky is able to capture electricity which it sends through insulated wire to power a light at the top of the tower or send electricity through its guy wires to whatever they connect to seems to be the core of this thread and the fact a singular tower almost obscured by some frankly piss poor editing is evidence of the existence of old tech being hidden without considering who its being hidden from instead focussing on possible why's is the sum of the thread.
Who is this thing being hidden from?
 
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Nothing to interpret. I made it as clear as I can.

Good, I interpreted you correctly. I think each of us is asking a different question. So none of us is satisfied with the answers. And they are questions none of us can even answer anyway. 😢

I very much respect your viewpoint, JD, regarding the expertise of builders in the last 200 years. You have opened my eyes to construction and plumbing skills that I hadn't been aware of. However, based on my observations I am certain that there were pre-existing buildings and structures in North America. Were these particular towers pre-existing? Maybe. Maybe not.

My question is why the tower was hidden in this picture.

Another question you both choose to ignore.
Who exactly is the moonlight tower in the op photo being unsuccessfully and only partially hidden from?

It could be purely aesthetic, someone wanted a clean picture of the building to display. So not really hiding it from anyone. Non-nefarious.

It could be to hide it from everyone, because it was pre-existing. But then someone came up with the Moonlight Towers Narrative and the towers didn't have to be hidden anymore.

I get it you both believe in old world tech resets etc so are you both believing it is the people born long after the photo was taken such as us or people yet to be born, those who have lived and died, foreigners of any sort or the people alive at the time?

What are you going on about?

After reading it a few times I realize you are asking if these are the people that the tower is being hidden from. But when I first read it I was thinking you were asking about the people of a reset, so it didn't make sense.

The answer would be that the tower was being hidden from all people alive at that time that were not currently in Detroit. This would include the Americas and the rest of the world, especially foreigners being recruited by Resetters.
 
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What made you scrutinise the LOC photo so closely in the first place?
As you say there is nothing obvious at first glance. What were you looking for?
The answer would be that the tower was being hidden from all people alive at that time that were not currently in Detroit. This would include the Americas and the rest of the world, especially foreigners being recruited by Resetters.
Which begs the question why bother with a photo in the first place.
Makes no sense.
Just for clarity, I hope.
The op photo editing is piss poor.
Like as not it was done to deliver a clean enough image for production. Perhaps the Detroit Publishing company had competition in the postcard selling game.
Or the tower was blurred out simply to make the case aesthetically for its removal due to its proximity to the building and it was never meant for public consumption. Just my guesses.
The evidence online shows the towers went up in 1882 They did not exist prior to this date.
The power control and supply comes from the base of the tower as evidenced in the linked archive threads.
 
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Tetromino
Like as not it was done to deliver a clean enough image for production. Perhaps the Detroit Publishing company had competition in the postcard selling game.
Or the tower was blurred out simply to make the case aesthetically for its removal due to its proximity to the building and it was never meant for public consumption. Just my guesses.
The evidence online shows the towers went up in 1892 They did not exist prior to this date.

Really good suggestions for how the picture could have happened.

The towers in Detroit are said to be begun in 1882
 
The op photo editing is piss poor.
It is piss poor but they probably didn't think anybody would notice. It's only now that we can view them on our high definition monitors that we can see details like that which wouldn't have been noticed on a regular sized photograph being looked at by somebody in their hand unless they had a magnifying glass but what reason would they have to do that. You don't seem to be understanding this point. The censorship was good enough for the time and if they knew we could see it now they'd have probably done a better job.

Fine. Show me some written or pictorial evidence that they pre existed their inaugural date of 1882. That would nail their old tech credentials on the wall.
No lamestream media mind.

I've been looking into leccy from the ether stories for longer than I care to remember for a purely selfish reason of not wanting to pay for a meter to measure a "flow of electrons" and over those years its become clear TO ME its bollocks.
To claim a steel tower stuck into the earth and poking into the sky is able to capture electricity which it sends through insulated wire to power a light at the top of the tower or send electricity through its guy wires to whatever they connect to seems to be the core of this thread and the fact a singular tower almost obscured by some frankly piss poor editing is evidence of the existence of old tech being hidden without considering who its being hidden from instead focussing on possible why's is the sum of the thread.
It's not bollocks you just don't understand how it works. It is a fact that there is a greater difference in potential the higher up you go into the atmosphere. Put a metal wire high up and you will have voltage. The moonlight towers in all likeliness had different bulbs at the top compared what we know as light bulbs. Filament bulbs require a lot of current but gas discharge lamps require a lot of voltage instead. Atmospheric energy is high voltage, low current electricity from the sky.

Who is this thing being hidden from?
Originally it would have been to hide it from anybody who might start asking questions at the time. These towers were only in Detroit so what would somebody living somewhere else think if they saw these strange and peculiar towers?
 
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It's only now that we can view them on our high definition monitors
Its the resolution of the computer digital scan of the original photo or negative which reveals photo manipulation. I am intrigued what made you look at this photo in the first place?

These photographers used 10 inch by 8 inch glass plate negatives. These things are massive and the detail captured in the emulsion on them assuming the lens was focussed accurately is colossal. No digital scan I have seen comes close to capturing the detail within a 1:1 photo produced from a 10 by 8 negative.


Put a metal wire high up and you will have voltage
Well you live and learn. Cannot think how I missed that. If only I had taken physics in senior school!


The moonlight towers in all likeliness had different bulbs at the top compared what we know as light bulbs.
They did. They had carbon arc lamps.


These towers were only in Detroit so what would somebody living somewhere else think if they saw these strange and peculiar towers?
Lamestream no doubt but evidence nonetheless.

New York
Hell Gate Lighthouse

New Orleans
A 'weird and ghostly appearance:' Gigantic towers once shined electric moonlight on New Orleans

Baltimore
Moonlight Towers and Arc Lighting – Illuminating Baltimore’s Neighborhoods?

Minneapolis
Hydroelectricity in Minneapolis, September 5, 1882 | MNopedia

San Jose
1881 – Owen’s Electric Light Tower Was Constructed
Looking Back: San Jose’s Electric Light Tower

Liverpool
HOME

Charles Brush
History of Charles Brush — Gusto Gen

Using this search term
Lampes à arc électrique à Paris, années 1800

Which in English is
electric arc lights in paris 1800's

It produced lots of links repeating a similar story of France leading in arc lighting thanks to a Russian named Pavel Yablochkoff
http://www.hevac-heritage.org/built_environment/pioneers_revisited/surnames_a-o/jablochkoff.pdf
who moved to Paris but no mention I could find of a Parisian light tower or mast.
However this little story came up which is of interest as it shows that electricity was initially spread to provide light which is evidence that prior to the invention of machines and wires most places were dark after the sun went down lit only by combustibles.

P 21 - L'électricité à Aouste - Histoire et Patrimoine Aoustois
The towers in Detroit are said to be begun in 1882
Apologies pushed the wrong key. I've applied the correction to the post.
 
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Again I ask - Why are they hiding that tower in the first picture of the OP if the towers were all over Detroit?

Here's a few possibilities:

1.) That first picture may have been taken before the Moonlight Towers Narrative cover story was developed within the USA around 1880 and implemented in Detroit in 1882. The streets are certainly wide open and muddy, with just a few people around. This would put the picture before 1880.

2.) This could have been one of the pictures used by the Resetters to recruit immigrants over in Europe. They would not have cared about the shoddy job retouching the photo when it was meant to be reprinted and would have less sharpness. This would also place the picture prior to 1880 when the Moonlight Tower Narrative cover story was developed.

3.) Whoever did the shoddy retouching and cut out the tower also harshly cut out all the sky. Perhaps there was an airship attached to the top of this tower or floating in the sky. This would place the picture before the ceation of the Moonlight Tower Narrative around 1880.

4.) The towers were actually built in 1882 for the stated use and this picture was retouched for aesthetics. Meaning an official picture of the building was needed for the city records (or equivalent), but they didn't want that pesky tower in the shot distracting from the symmetry of the building. This would place the picture after 1882.

5.) The picture could have been altered at the Library of Congress. Their team in charge of covering up the past saw it and covered it up. THEN learned of the cover story that allowed the tower to exist. But they were so busy at that time that they never corrected the problem by getting a replacement image. This would place the picture anytime before 1900, according to several other images in the OP that don't have the tower present.

I cannot choose just one of these. I believe that both 1.) and 2.) are correct.
(Tip of the hat to usselo for format.)

This specific 'Moonlight Tower' obviously became a problem for the City Fathers, probably because of someone altering this particular picture. So it was removed within 18 years of being 'built' to avoid the discrepancy and make later pictures consistant with this earlier picture.
We all encounter a problem with discussing issues that contain several options. It's laborious to set out the options we think might be present and difficult to track responses and arguments for each option's sub-options.

It derails so many conversations, I'd like to know if there is a name for this problem so I could see if anyone has developed techniques to manage similar discussions.

Returning to the light towers... I think our knowledge is deliberately, carefully curated, so when we're shown crude manipulations that stand out as being inexplicably careless, I tend to guess they are inserted or leaked as tests to see if we can detect inconsistencies.

That's the unwritten thought that lay behind my option 4.

Something like this:

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Just for my piece of mind. Or maybe for this week's AI progress report. Source: Westworld

The other suggestions are illuminating. Take the viziers' spiked hats... Our knowledge curators may hope we spot their similarity to these hats:

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Bronze hats from Germany

which I presented as possible examples of these hats:

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Royston Cave wall carving.

If there is/was a communication technology whose equipment resembled these, then perhaps Royston Cave depicts this equipment being used to take bids and share prices over a wider distance on market days above the cave.

But if so, we're still missing materials and methods necessary to understand how this technology worked (specifically: methods and materials for transmission/propagation, modulation and demodulation).

A clue about high lights is that their installers seem to have cared about illuminating rooftops and risks at roof-height. I wonder if there is an airship delivery clue in that. It also tallies with the seemingly unnecessary amount of structure - cupolas, gazebos and ironware that used to poke above roofs in the past.

Put a metal wire high up and you will have voltage.
If I've correctly understood what is going on with atmospheric potential gradient, then: be high in the sky and hang a wire down and you will also have voltage. Which might be useful for recharging kit that you have with you high in the sky. Or for phase-changing materials that you have with you high in the sky.

One thing that might help is a potted history of Detroit's industries and their time periods, particularly around these photos' 1882 period. See Industrial Detroit - 1860-1900. with the usual caveat that nothing should be taken as authoritative, complete or accurate.

In that list, the terse line:
1881: Detroit is the center of the nation's stove manufacturing industry.

stands out as odd. It's a power-related industry but what happened that centred it in Detroit at this time? We also see mentions of new technologies coming in around this time but nothing about the industries that were being replaced.
 
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Here is a postcard made by the Detroit publishing company of the City Hall in Detroit.
Front and centre is a moonlight tower. No attempt to hide it.
From here Old City Hall | Postcards | Historic Detroit

If?
Surely if the claim of the tower being a collector is true then all steel framed structures are etheric electricity gatherers.
Where are the adverts for the gear required, to be base about it and or the patents for said gear?
Not interested in who patented what but the principle is simple .Everything naturally has the ability to conduct electricity. How much depends on material resistance and conductivity. You can measure this resistance with an Ohmmeter if you wish.

Everything within a rotating magnetic field will , when earthed and not isolated ,allow current to flow from air to ground . The amount is negligible in most materials but not in metals . Perhaps this rotating field charges the air/ether.

Metals are good conductors with relatively low resistance. I don't know which rock types are conductive but I can guess that the crystalline or chemical structure of building materials can be altered to allow a usable amount of electricity to flow. All that would be required to provide heat or light would be to include materials into the circuit that convert electrical energy to heat/light when electricity flows.

Thinking as I write , inverters and rectifiers convert DC to AC and AC to DC and maybe that's where patents come in - a means for making money out of something that is provided free by Mother Nature.
 
Thinking as I write , inverters and rectifiers convert DC to AC and AC to DC and maybe that's where patents come in - a means for making money out of something that is provided free by Mother Nature.
That's what I was referring to. Patents are only a thing because of money. Humans being humans making money trumps anything else for most. So if old tech was discovered or figured out it would be patented by whoever discovered it, figured it out or bought or even stole the knowledge.

On the subject of money. If the meter is taken out of the line what is left?
The electricity. Ergo once the money illusion is gone there is abundant electricity free of financial cost.
The Majestic building had its own power station and its likely because it was the most reliable and cheapest way for the buildings operator to gain the benefit of electrricty.
All the expos I have looked into have had power stations. All run by coal and steam powered turbines linked to generating plant.
 
Metals are good conductors with relatively low resistance. I don't know which rock types are conductive but I can guess that the crystalline or chemical structure of building materials can be altered to allow a usable amount of electricity to flow. All that would be required to provide heat or light would be to include materials into the circuit that convert electrical energy to heat/light when electricity flows.

Production of light might have been the original purpose of stained glass. Electroluminescent assemblies of, say, phosphor on glass plates trapped between electrically conductive strips of lead.

In English, that would be 'lead' as in plumbum, and 'lead' as in electrical cable.
However, the electroluminiscents I've seen were all blue or turquoise, while East England's 18th century post-reset cleanup teams seem to have scoured the region for both blue and red stained glass. Perhaps we're missing a red EL chemical.

I doubt, though, that EL technology explains the bright lights at the tops of Detroit's, towers. At least, not EL technology as we know it.
 
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They did. They had carbon arc lamps.

That's what they want us to believe. The problem is they would need to be replaced almost every day and there would need to be somebody climbing up every single tower to replace all six bulbs. I don't believe it.

This video is all the evidence anybody needs for harnessing electricity from the atmosphere:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENeDkGce5-4


If you can power a motor then why not a bulb? Unfortunately it's a bit trickier to make a bulb to experiment with if you're not a glassmaker.
 
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