There were no ancient western civilizations, they are modern fakes and degrade China

The English gave all the credit for inventions to the Chinese like paper, gunpowder, etc. After the boxers were defeated by armies of various countries. I think they later created Communism to finish wiping out the Qing Tartar Empire, just like in Russia.
China was used to distort history, to erase Tartary.
 
Hey, the tarim mummies seem to be linked to the guanches, Red haired people. I believe these are the people who built all the pyramids, It seems the red haired people were in every continent . They are linked to canary islands, patagonia chile, new zealand, iceland, morrocco ,mauritius , cambodia, india. So maybe they went around teaching all of the races. And Im guessing they were destroyed by rome?? Im not sure. Also theres alot of folk mythology about red haired giants but they list them as cannibal but that could of been rewrittten to make them look evil.

A man from the island of Antigua told me that they used to have red haired giant cannibals living there.
On a 11 x 14 mile island.
How much food would a giant eat? What happened when natural beasts on the island were all used up? Perhaps not all red haired giants were canibals but chose that when in want of food.
 
This looks roman to me, and somewhat persian as well. Remember that Mithras is portrayed by official history as being a persian god, but there is speculation the persian civilization never existed.
I think the hieroglyphs are just pieces of decoration. They are not a written language. Its like celtic knots. Claiming hieroglyphs are a script would be the same as claiming celtic knots would be a script.
The area you underlined looks like runes. There is a theory the runic scripts originated among the etruscans, and were passed to the heruli german tribe, which brought it to Scandinavia.





The people of the Tarim basin were called tocharians, and they were celts, part of the great celtic belt which, according to official history, covered a large area from Europe to Asia.

This is chinese state Propaganda or a lunatic professor. The Gizeh Plateau and all the Pyramids are filled with mathematic equasions and sacred geomety. They are made out of granit and could not even be rebuild with modern technology today.
Or both things.

Sincerely, I generally distrust current governments for being agents of chaos rather than perder.
A man from the island of Antigua told me that they used to have red haired giant cannibals living there.
On a 11 x 14 mile island.
How much food would a giant eat? What happened when natural beasts on the island were all used up? Perhaps not all red haired giants were canibals but chose that when in want of food.
Maybe they turned cannibals when food started running out.
 
Recently a Chinese professor Huang Heqing claims that the Egyptian pyramids, the Parthenon, and other remnants of ancient civilizations in the West were falsified by Western scholars to fabricate ancient history and diminish the glory of China.
What makes this story even weirder is that Huang teaches at the Zhejiang University School of Arts and Archeology, one of the oldest, most selective and prestigious universities in China.
  • Does China claim to claim everything done by the Tartars who even ruled them?
Huang Heqing stated in his lecture that from the 19th to the 20th centuries, the West riotously forged historical and cultural relics and was spending huge sums of money everywhere, from the Mediterranean to India, making fake ancient artifacts.
The pyramids of Cheops and the Great Sphinx of Giza were made of concrete and built in the 19th century, Huang says.
An artist's depiction of the Great Sphinx of Giza compared to a current photograph shows that the Sphinx was built in modern times, according to Huang's theory.
Western scholars elevated the status of ancient Egyptian, Mesopotamian and Indian civilizations at the expense of China, Huang argues.

The Chinese Ministry of Education's First Class Double Class A University is among the top three in China, and its motto is: "Seeking Truth, Seeking Innovation."
  • Professor Huang's theory is truly groundbreaking and he claims that he can test his theory with pictures.

I thought this article was too interesting to share. Chinese professor: There were no ancient western civilizations; just modern fakes made to demean China


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmAk1TVe6gI

There is a video with the following description:
Recently, Professor Huang Heqing from Zhejiang University held a live broadcast of "History with Pictures: Tracing the Fictional History of Western Greece" and identified the Parthenon Temple in Athens and the Egyptian pyramid sites as modern forgeries. Professor Huang said that he used conclusive Western book illustrations and historical photos to prove that the Great Pyramid and Sphinx of Egypt did not exist at the time. The Great Pyramid of Egypt was built with concrete in the 19th century.


I've found both the full video presentation and an article by Huang, which you can assess here:
Video
浙大黄河清教授扒皮西方伪史2/3,金字塔、古希腊、泥板都是伪造的。_哔哩哔哩_bilibili
4-part article
Part 1: 以圖證史:希臘雅典、埃及金字塔和伊朗波斯波利斯“古蹟”都是現代新建偽造(四則)(一) - sa123
Part 2: 翕兮 | 希腊雅典、埃及金字塔和伊朗波斯波利斯“古迹”都是现代新建伪造(二)
Part 3: 以图证史:希腊雅典、埃及金字塔和伊朗波斯波利斯“古迹”都是现代新建伪造(四则)(三)
Part 4: 以圖證史:希臘雅典、埃及金字塔和伊朗波斯波利斯“古蹟”都是現代新建偽造(四則)(四) - sa123

His research is quite original, as I have never come across anywhere else mentioning his points

Here is a summary:

On Greece: point 1-4

Huang's claim is that the Athens ruins were first designed by Jacquel Paul Babin and Jacob Spon, which were then refined by Jacques Carrey, and refined again by James Stuart, whose design was then used as the blueprint for the construction


1. Parthenon
In Jacques Paul Babin's "Relation de l’etat present de la ville d’Athenes",
The Parthenon is depicted with 4 columns in front along with a spire.
In Jacob Spon's "Voyage d'Italie, de Dalmatie, de Grèce et du Levant, Lyon",
he concurred with Babin and depicted Athens with a river to the South of the Acropolis (fact is there is no river in the proximity of area),
the Parthenon is depicted with a spire as well, but with 8 columns in front.

The west pediment of the Parthenon is said to depict the birth of Athena, which seems irreconcilable as the current structure has it on the East side (note: it could be argued that it has been moved simply due to the reconstruction)

Jacques Carrey Parthenon drawings also depict the Parthenon with a spire, but this time with 6 columns in front.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GreekMusli...e_of_the_few_sketches_of_parthenon_mosque_by/
Category:Jacques Carrey - Wikimedia Commons
Incidentally, his drawings depict the same metope design as the current construction.

Carrey's relief designs are then copied by James Stuart, in "The Antiquities of Athens".


2. Temple of Zeus
In Jacques Paul Babin "Relation de l’etat present de la ville d’Athenes",
the temple is drawn with a 'second level' on top of the columns,
and was described to consists of a total of 120 columns;
Spon corresponds with the description of 110 columns.

Huang argues that would leave no open space for the temple if there truly were 120 colums originally.

in Carrey drawings, the ruins of the "second level" shrunk in size;
and he made the preliminary designs of the Arch of Hadrian.

Note, the ruins of the "second level" was built at one point
https://www.getty.edu/art/collection/object/106QZX
https://greekreporter.com/2022/04/25/building-top-temple-olympian-zeus/ (hilarious article claiming it was utilized by stylites)

Huang also argues it makes no sense there are no remnants of the rest of the columns. And if the temple of Zeus is fake, then we can also reject the antiquity of the Parthenon as the degree of weathering is similar between the two

3. "Tower of the Winds" and Erechtheion
the current construction of "Tower of the Winds" and Erechtheion are very similar to the design given by Stuart; while the construction of the Acropolis and amphitheater are also similar to the drawings by Carrey.

Carrey depicted a "Frankish" tower at the Acropolis in his drawings, which was at one point built, but was demolished in 1874
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankish_Tower_(Acropolis_of_Athens)


4. Metopes
There is a metope displayed in the British museum has the same design as one given by Stuart, which Stuart designed for the North side of the Parthenon. This metope cannot be authentic as the North side of the Parthenon was said to be destroyed.

There are also metopes depicting Carrey's designs, since it has already been established that Carrey's designs are fabrications, the metopes cannot be authentic.

Metopes said to be from the east side of the Parthenon are displayed at the Louvre and the British museum respectively, however the style of the design and degree of weathering is completely different between the two.

In conclusion, these artists depictions could not be true, as they conflict with each other; but if they were fabrications, then it does not make sense that elements in their drawings do exist in the current construction - so the construction itself must come after the drawings.


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5. Pyramids
Early depictions of pyramids have completely different dimensions as the ones we see now.
The Sphinx is depicted with a human face, and there are 2 sphinx(es?) in some depictions.

"Atlas du voyage en Haute et Basse-Egypte" by Vivant Denon, supposedly drawn during Napoleon's Egypt expedition, depicts the Sphinx's head slanting upwards
"Les pyramides de Memphis, le Sphinx, au soleil couchant" by Balzac Charles Louis depicted Egypt's geograpy as a Hügelland,not as a desert
Both of which indicate the pictures were fabrications


6. Geopolymer concrete
In Jacob Spon's "Voyage d'Italie, de Dalmatie, de Grèce et du Levant, Lyon", he descibred "pierre fondue" (melted stone) was common in France. In fact Spon mentioned this specifically to contrast it with Roman stone which he said was 'whole' stone

For some megalithic stones in the aforementioned sites, the surface is so smooth that it is reflective; these stones could not have been naturally formed

7. Persepolis
Eugene Fladin made several drawings of Persepolis which have the same style and design as the current construction, but the overall placement not the same as the actual construction. Huang argues Fladin was the true designer of Persepolis, and his drawing were his early drafts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paintings_and_plots_by_Pascal_Coste_and_Eugène_Flandin

Robert Ker Porter made a drawing of the Lamassu which is slightly different from the actual one at Persepolis (the design around the girth).
Huang also thus Porter is the true designer of it.


8. Stone slabs
Babylonian and Assyrian stone slabs were dried naturally and will melt when come into contact with water, given that they were stored in a non-vacuum, water ressitant environment, they should have melted a long time ago. Add to the fact that stone slabs are impractical, and the hierogylph are close to indicipherable, decryptions are simply not refutable.
 
I've found both the full video presentation and an article by Huang, which you can assess here:
Video
浙大黄河清教授扒皮西方伪史2/3,金字塔、古希腊、泥板都是伪造的。_哔哩哔哩_bilibili
4-part article
Part 1: 以圖證史:希臘雅典、埃及金字塔和伊朗波斯波利斯“古蹟”都是現代新建偽造(四則)(一) - sa123
Part 2: 翕兮 | 希腊雅典、埃及金字塔和伊朗波斯波利斯“古迹”都是现代新建伪造(二)
Part 3: 以图证史:希腊雅典、埃及金字塔和伊朗波斯波利斯“古迹”都是现代新建伪造(四则)(三)
Part 4: 以圖證史:希臘雅典、埃及金字塔和伊朗波斯波利斯“古蹟”都是現代新建偽造(四則)(四) - sa123

His research is quite original, as I have never come across anywhere else mentioning his points

Here is a summary:

On Greece: point 1-4

Huang's claim is that the Athens ruins were first designed by Jacquel Paul Babin and Jacob Spon, which were then refined by Jacques Carrey, and refined again by James Stuart, whose design was then used as the blueprint for the construction


1. Parthenon
In Jacques Paul Babin's "Relation de l’etat present de la ville d’Athenes",
The Parthenon is depicted with 4 columns in front along with a spire.
In Jacob Spon's "Voyage d'Italie, de Dalmatie, de Grèce et du Levant, Lyon",
he concurred with Babin and depicted Athens with a river to the South of the Acropolis (fact is there is no river in the proximity of area),
the Parthenon is depicted with a spire as well, but with 8 columns in front.

The west pediment of the Parthenon is said to depict the birth of Athena, which seems irreconcilable as the current structure has it on the East side (note: it could be argued that it has been moved simply due to the reconstruction)

Jacques Carrey Parthenon drawings also depict the Parthenon with a spire, but this time with 6 columns in front.
r/GreekMuslims - One of the few sketches of Parthenon Mosque by Jacques Carrey 1674
Category:Jacques Carrey - Wikimedia Commons
Incidentally, his drawings depict the same metope design as the current construction.

Carrey's relief designs are then copied by James Stuart, in "The Antiquities of Athens".


2. Temple of Zeus
In Jacques Paul Babin "Relation de l’etat present de la ville d’Athenes",
the temple is drawn with a 'second level' on top of the columns,
and was described to consists of a total of 120 columns;
Spon corresponds with the description of 110 columns.

Huang argues that would leave no open space for the temple if there truly were 120 colums originally.

in Carrey drawings, the ruins of the "second level" shrunk in size;
and he made the preliminary designs of the Arch of Hadrian.

Note, the ruins of the "second level" was built at one point
[Athens - temple of Zeus Olypmpios] (The J. Paul Getty Museum Collection)
The Mystery Structure on Top of Athens' Temple of Olympian Zeus (hilarious article claiming it was utilized by stylites)

Huang also argues it makes no sense there are no remnants of the rest of the columns. And if the temple of Zeus is fake, then we can also reject the antiquity of the Parthenon as the degree of weathering is similar between the two

3. "Tower of the Winds" and Erechtheion
the current construction of "Tower of the Winds" and Erechtheion are very similar to the design given by Stuart; while the construction of the Acropolis and amphitheater are also similar to the drawings by Carrey.

Carrey depicted a "Frankish" tower at the Acropolis in his drawings, which was at one point built, but was demolished in 1874
Frankish Tower (Acropolis of Athens) - Wikipedia


4. Metopes
There is a metope displayed in the British museum has the same design as one given by Stuart, which Stuart designed for the North side of the Parthenon. This metope cannot be authentic as the North side of the Parthenon was said to be destroyed.

There are also metopes depicting Carrey's designs, since it has already been established that Carrey's designs are fabrications, the metopes cannot be authentic.

Metopes said to be from the east side of the Parthenon are displayed at the Louvre and the British museum respectively, however the style of the design and degree of weathering is completely different between the two.

In conclusion, these artists depictions could not be true, as they conflict with each other; but if they were fabrications, then it does not make sense that elements in their drawings do exist in the current construction - so the construction itself must come after the drawings.


=====


5. Pyramids
Early depictions of pyramids have completely different dimensions as the ones we see now.
The Sphinx is depicted with a human face, and there are 2 sphinx(es?) in some depictions.

"Atlas du voyage en Haute et Basse-Egypte" by Vivant Denon, supposedly drawn during Napoleon's Egypt expedition, depicts the Sphinx's head slanting upwards
"Les pyramides de Memphis, le Sphinx, au soleil couchant" by Balzac Charles Louis depicted Egypt's geograpy as a Hügelland,not as a desert
Both of which indicate the pictures were fabrications


6. Geopolymer concrete
In Jacob Spon's "Voyage d'Italie, de Dalmatie, de Grèce et du Levant, Lyon", he descibred "pierre fondue" (melted stone) was common in France. In fact Spon mentioned this specifically to contrast it with Roman stone which he said was 'whole' stone

For some megalithic stones in the aforementioned sites, the surface is so smooth that it is reflective; these stones could not have been naturally formed

7. Persepolis
Eugene Fladin made several drawings of Persepolis which have the same style and design as the current construction, but the overall placement not the same as the actual construction. Huang argues Fladin was the true designer of Persepolis, and his drawing were his early drafts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paintings_and_plots_by_Pascal_Coste_and_Eugène_Flandin

Robert Ker Porter made a drawing of the Lamassu which is slightly different from the actual one at Persepolis (the design around the girth).
Huang also thus Porter is the true designer of it.


8. Stone slabs
I will take a look at those links, by the way, have you checked these other threads related to the city of Athens and very much related to what you are telling me?

Acropolis aka Necropolis, Schliemann and 1877 Cremation Temple

Acropolis aka Necropolis, Schliemann and 1877 Cremation Temple

SH Archive - Acropolis aka Necropolis, Schliemann and 1877 Cremation Temple
 
I will take a look at those links, by the way, have you checked these other threads related to the city of Athens and very much related to what you are telling me?

Acropolis aka Necropolis, Schliemann and 1877 Cremation Temple

Acropolis aka Necropolis, Schliemann and 1877 Cremation Temple

SH Archive - Acropolis aka Necropolis, Schliemann and 1877 Cremation Temple
thank you for the links!

from what I gathered, the position of the above posts is that the Parthenon was indeed built in "ancient" times but serve a different purpose, and the destruction of the "Frankish" tower was to hide its/their purpose?

Personally, I find it more probable that the Parthenon was built in modern times: the Frankish tower was indeed built according to the Frankish tradition. The tower was demolished exactly for the stated official reason - "it did not fit in", and the PTB realized that
edit: maybe not "ancient ancient", but pre-1400 ancient
 
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