SH Archive World population: where are the missing trillions of people?

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KorbenDallas
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2018-07-11 04:00:05
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Username: WildFire2000
Date: 2018-07-12 15:15:07
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What you're saying is that even with ridiculous complex math, limiting food production to a mere 1%, we still need major cullings every so many years, or we have trillions of people.

Something is screwy.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-12 15:44:42
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Will add the file to the first post with reference to this one when get home. Only have my cell now. Stupid thing would not even open it for me to take a look.
 
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Username: MoonWatcher
Date: 2018-07-12 16:01:30
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If somebody can articulate this Like I'm 5 - I'll make a video about it this weekend. Just make sure we're using official UN numbers (and the Bible is good, too) and keep it simple.
 
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Username: WildFire2000
Date: 2018-07-12 16:35:35
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Basically, the mainstream count for human population growth is horribly inaccurate and far too low. Even being super conservative with population growth, humanity should not have taken as long as it has to reach 7.6 billion people. There should be TRILLIONS of us.

Unless something major is culling the population, either natural disasters or something else. It's impossible to tell, we're way too under populated.
 
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Username: whitewave
Date: 2018-07-12 19:05:39
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What Newly Discovered Ancient Civilizations Can Teach Us

Mass Extinction Interesting that the current era is called the Tertiary Period. Tertiary means "final, the end".

Venus of Brassempouy (23,000 BCE). Oldest Known Stone Age Portrait. (Looks like they had time to do their hair and learn how to carve stone).


13000 BC
courbet venus sm.jpg

23000 BC
Kostenki_venus.jpg

24000 BC
Hand held Venus of Willendorf.jpg

24000 BC
venus-savignano 24000 bce Italy.jpg

25000 BC
La Poire 1 sm.jpg

Hunters and gatherers never had the chance to get fat.

goddess mohenjodaro 2600bctansm.jpg

Jewelry, clothing, belts with buckles, stylized headdresses. For "savages" they sure had a lot of free time. Those clothes, btw, are not skins which suggests a civilization at least able to support a textile industry. 2500 BC

Did man look different before the last extinction level event?

38000 BC
former_man.jpg

5000 BC
former_man_2.jpg

Bronze Age
former_man_3.jpg

Neolithic
former_man_4.jpg former_man_5.jpg

11,000 years ago
former_man_6.jpe

Is she wearing a bra? 40,000 BC


We've had ELE's in the past (5 known) and scientists believe we are in the 6th as numerous species of bugs, birds, animals, and plants are disappearing at an alarming rate from our planet. I think we've had several technologically advanced civilizations. We are not the first. Either we get wiped out by some cataclysmic event or.....harvested. I can see why TPTB would want to keep that sort of info secret, especially if we're at the start of our last ELE.
 
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Username: MoonWatcher
Date: 2018-07-12 20:50:08
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Either that or the population numbers worked backwards put the 'beginning' of humanity at just a few thousand years ago, right?
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-12 21:01:33
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Less than 2,000 years
 
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Username: mythstifieD
Date: 2018-07-12 22:00:19
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Here's a possibility for Humans not getting into the trillions, constant meteor impacts, much more frequent than we're told?
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-12 22:06:38
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They call them asteroids. Somehow we ended up with a whole bunch of asteroids hitting our planet at 90 degree angle. It looks more like a bomb crater.

Here is what an asteroid would do. Just my guess though.

 
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Username: WildFire2000
Date: 2018-07-12 23:02:31
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I, personally, believe in the electric model of ... That stuff up there, so any major craters are actually electrical discharges. That have left their marks, due to MASSIVE lightning strikes. Whether or not you believe in our solar system as taught or not, check out some of the Thunderbolts videos on YouTube, the electric universe theory of plasma physics does that thing KD talks about, where the science mostly matches our observed universe.

Now, even if we aren't on a globe, the electric model fits, based on the activities of the orbs of light we see up there.

Also, that picture KD just linked with Antarctica and South America definitely looks like an impact/graze. It's ... I don't trust much of anything these days.
 
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Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-07-13 01:06:45
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yes it makes us scared that whatever took them away is coming back!
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-14 03:09:44
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Something is seriously off. It took us 199,800 years to get to 1 billion, and only 200 years to get to 7 billion after that.

world_population_x2.png
Here comes an additional load of baloney. Deceases, climate fluctuations...

Bubonic Plague is caused by the bacteria Yersinia pestis. Many rodents, such as rats, carry the infected fleas and in turn become sick. Only after the rodent has died do the fleas jump to humans for a new tasty snack.

I wonder where fleas got this virus from...

world_population_x1.png

 
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Username: whitewave
Date: 2018-07-14 03:29:02
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And 20 years later we're only at 7 billion? In 25 years (1974-1999) population rose from 4-6 billion. At the rate we were going during those 20 years, we should now, 20 years later) be at 20 billion+. Of course, I suck at math so if someone has better figures based on the above chart, please let me know when and why our population explosion came to a screeching halt. Especially now that we have better transportation/infrastructure, hygiene, access to enough food and medical attention.
 
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Username: mythstifieD
Date: 2018-07-14 05:43:14
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Yeah I don't know what to think. This one has really derailed me. Even folks like Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson don't add up, because even 12k years of modern history is absurd for the numbers.

This really throws me for a loop and I don't quite know how to explain it. I'm pretty sure someone is having a good laugh though.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-14 06:09:26
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I think we somewhat know the answer, but it is too hard to admit it, and it sounds way too nutts.

For the volume of architecture existing in the 19th century there had to be a comparable numbers of construction personnel. And unless every existing person was a construction worker, and they went around the world building things non stop, it is impossible to have all those structures built. If we compare it to the setup of our today’s society, it’s fairly easy to see that we have other professions as well.

And if we look at the suggested history, it says that the 19th century was nothing but wars, and the Industrial Revolution. Than who was building, if everyone was inventing and fighting?

NOTE: Catch 22. The world population in 1900 was 1.6 billion. But...
  • Europe - 291 mln
  • North America - 106 mln
  • Asia - 937 mln
  • Africa - 120 mln
  • Russia - 111 mln
  • South America - 38 mln
  • Oceania - 6 mln
Estimated world population, 1800 - 1950

Conclusion: 397 millions of Europeans and Americans had to build all this: Similar style buildings are all over the world. Were they built by our civilization? As well as conquer the colonies and do the Industrial Revolution.

Now, if we break these 397 millions into men, women, children and elderly people, we end up with approximately 1/3rd of that number. That is, for a second, 133 millions of people.

us_construction_workers.png

US population in 2016 was 323 millions. If we draw necessary parallels, the conclusion would be that there were approximately 3-4 millions of construction workers worldwide to build all that Richardsonian Romanesque architechture.

Is this possible? I do not think so.

Who built all that?

Chicago, New York 1890
chicago1890.jpg New_york-1890.jpg

I think we are looking at a very grim reality here. There were multiple billions of people back then to achieve all that. But where did they all go?
 
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Username: asatiger1966
Date: 2018-07-14 08:17:09
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Personally the idea of being killed off every now and then, based on what we see is very likely. This site raises questions I never thought about. Thank you, The idea of a world civilization after the last ice age is real to me. The ideal that Grand Tartair was a world wide civilization is very likely. The dating is up for grabs but taking to account the 100,000,000 year old computer chip found in Russia along with the 150,000,000 year old contour map made from materials that we may not be able to duplicate today. That would put humans on the planet for millions of years. We just do not know the timing and locations. I personally think we are being set up for another culling as you called it. The nano particles that are sprayed on us are the receptors for a wave frequency that will seperate our molecular particals and we vanish. There is so much time wasted auguring about the Second Amendment. That is the first tell of a distraction. Just my thoughts.
 
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Username: MoonWatcher
Date: 2018-07-14 13:44:11
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Yes. i used to believe the Thunderbolts guys were legit until I realized they didn't say a word about what the moon might be doing to Earth 'electrically'

I have some ideas about how to depict the population disparity graphically, but I need to limit the scale and I'm not very good with spreadsheets. I want to limit the scale from Noah's 6 children to the first billion. We know the first billion was 1800AD. You're calling Noah when - 2,000BC? So it only takes 1300 years to reach 1 billion people, right? So there's a disparity of 2500 years? Do you have a numbers of deaths from wars - like maybe a single number? Can you change the life expectancy to 20 years and see how much it changes (how many years to reach 1billion)? I expect first-time viewers will say "Deaths from disease and wild animals, childless families etc." held the population back. Do you have any way of incorporating such an argument into the math?
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-14 15:54:39
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With my simple table you can replace any number with yellow background to change the variable. Just put 20 in the “step” column.

In reality, based on the scientific BS when it comes down to the population estimate of the pre-Columbian Americas... And this 150 mil to 1 bil in the image above... I would not trust them scientists anyways. They appear to have no cojones to say that they simply do not know.
 
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Username: MoonWatcher
Date: 2018-07-14 17:04:08
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When I put 20 in the step field I get 1 billion in 920 years - LESS time than with 30. That's not right.
 
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