SH Archive Abandoned Saint Petersburg is ready for re-population, or why we do not know our true history...

[Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-07-01 00:41:38
Reaction Score: 0

Again, outer space is a mythos which invites this type of thinking.
Tatrtarians escaped earth?
To a different planet?

Planets dont exist. Neither does outer space, nor alien civilizations.

The lie of outer space infects all thinking when you view life through an incorrect cosmology..

i think thats not true, the real reason NASA fakes so much stuff is the UFOs, everthing else is more or less as we are told

 

[Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2018-07-01 00:55:02
Reaction Score: 5

i think thats not true, the real reason NASA fakes so much stuff is the UFOs, everthing else is more or less as we are told

Don't feed the trolls. He's trying to dilute the conversation here. Let him put up or shut up. He cam make a thread that corrects our infected and incorrect cosmology, I think most here are open to it, and we can continue to have intelligent on topic discourse.

 

[Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-07-01 19:11:59
Reaction Score: 0

Don't feed the trolls. He's trying to dilute the conversation here. Let him put up or shut up. He cam make a thread that corrects our infected and incorrect cosmology, I think most here are open to it, and we can continue to have intelligent on topic discourse.

agree, he is obviously trying to start a flame war

 

[Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: MoonStars
Date: 2018-07-09 22:20:53
Reaction Score: 5

A comment in reference to KorbenDallas - Has anyone ever seen the movie "Dark City" with Kiefer Sutherland? I somewhat sense that our (strange, misleading, and definitely hidden) history is akin to what's presented there. Supposed "reality" is just not the way we have been programmed to perceive. If we truly look, there are many things unexplained: civilizations - and certain of individuals - just vanishing. Sudden appearances of people or life-types (that are certainly hushed), modern flightcraft images, among others, etched onto very ancient stone - even in pyramids, and the list goes on and on. Life, history, and "REALITY" as we have been "led" or "funneled" to believe are just NOT matching up. Completely clean and empty cities . . . huh?! Non of it makes any sense.

 

[anotherlayer]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-07-10 00:14:45
Reaction Score: 11

i can't take this anymore. none of those pictures add up. there is a question in every pic. i'll just take one that just makes me shake my head.



- Who is this goofball?
- What's with the door/window behind him? It's too high for a door, too low for a concession stand window.
- Who are these Saints/Kings/Knuckleheads being honored on all sides?
- Cool crucifix. Looks bedazzled, nice!
- That building has another 12 feet underground.
- Am I to assume those street lights are using gas? And these gas lines run under the cobblestone?
- Wait... does this building still exist?
- Cobblestone roads. They look perfect.
- Some of the other photos have clear signs of nature's overgrowth, just proving some sort of abandonment.
- No way they hid the people or took these "early in the morning". Just no.
- Even if they had the number of workers to build these buildings, did they have enough people to even work and live in them? These are colossal monsters of architecture.
- Why do I feel so foolish looking at these pictures knowing this is absolute and simple proof that... something's fucky.

This one is a puzzle too:



- Look at the sunlight hitting the dome and down the columns. So, there is a sun! What's the time of day? Seems like dusk.
- Is that piles of horse poop? Are those dudes in the wagon or the people in the background, are they the horse poop shovelers?
- Is that russian script along the facade?

Sidenote, I'm actually pretty happy that our Tartarian brothers and sister enjoyed a good cup of coffee.

 

[Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2018-07-10 02:52:43
Reaction Score: 2

A comment in reference to KorbenDallas - Has anyone ever seen the movie "Dark City" with Kiefer Sutherland? I somewhat sense that our (strange, misleading, and definitely hidden) history is akin to what's presented there. Supposed "reality" is just not the way we have been programmed to perceive. If we truly look, there are many things unexplained: civilizations - and certain of individuals - just vanishing. Sudden appearances of people or life-types (that are certainly hushed), modern flightcraft images, among others, etched onto very ancient stone - even in pyramids, and the list goes on and on. Life, history, and "REALITY" as we have been "led" or "funneled" to believe are just NOT matching up. Completely clean and empty cities . . . huh?! Non of it makes any sense.

I tell people, it's just like the matrix, except that its good.

 

[KD Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-10 03:42:28
Reaction Score: 0

I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing these things. We definitely have a puzzle on our hands.

@MoonStars, it sure brings up this thought doesn't it?

I tell people, it's just like the matrix, except that its good.

Why do you think it's a good one?

 

[asatiger1966]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: asatiger1966
Date: 2018-07-15 08:15:13
Reaction Score: 3

The amount of work you have put into this project is note worthy. I had time to review the pictures. My questions are; are there more of these pictures and what are the dates recorded? There were numerous frescoes of men and some women depicted on towers, buildings, along with many art statues. Can these people be identified? Some of the buildings appear to have metal roof? If the pictures are real, we have a bigger problem. Both in complexity and agenda. I have two close neighbors that are native Russian. My family have spent time in Saint Petersburg. I will look at the types of available steel in Russia at that time and look for foundry capabilities. I will also check on the brick foundry's capabilities. I did not expect to see this problem so close to us.

 

[KD Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-15 08:58:13
Reaction Score: 1

As far as I know, the dates provided were 1860-1870. That said, I would not trust our history with dates whatsoever.

You are abdolutely right about metal roofs too. Done things are pretty hard to explain, and this one is one of those.

As far as identifications go, for that I’m afraid, we will need some Russian help.

 

[anotherlayer]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-07-16 13:57:11
Reaction Score: 3

I came across this last night, I wasn't sure if this was posted, but the vacancy made me giggle. This is St. Petersburg in 1861. Surely it's morning and the buggies are lining up for the hundreds of thousands of shopkeepers, politicians, tourists, printers, the butchers, the bakers, all the candlestick makers:

St. Petersburg Panoramic

View attachment 1861._Панорама_Санкт-Петербурга.jpg

 

[KD Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-16 14:06:09
Reaction Score: 3

Tha city in the image above looks dead dead.

 

[anotherlayer]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-07-16 14:10:54
Reaction Score: 7

Tha city in the image above looks dead dead.

It's not even funny anymore.

I could point out so many things and put red circles around a million things in that photo. Here is one... this looks like an illustration and it just seems like the russian script was an afterthought. Reminded me of the Pantheon. I'm pretty sure a few years ago I came across a discussion about how there were older paintings of the Pantheon that did not have the script on the facade. I just goggled for a few minutes and I can no longer find one drawing without the script. Drives me crazy, I know what I saw...

Anyway, cameras of 1861 really made things look weird when you zoom in like this. And that right side of the building is painted as all get out. I have no proof, but I also have no doubt!

 

[KD Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-16 14:25:56
Reaction Score: 1

And simultaneously russian serfdom was abolished in 1861. Which is pretty close to the US 1865 for slavery.

Russian serfdom was finally abolished in the emancipation reform of 1861 by Tsar Alexander II.

This is like the strongest picture I’ve seen to date.

Sheet metal roofs in 1861 for a city of this size suggests what?

 

[anotherlayer]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-07-16 14:30:21
Reaction Score: 2

And simultaneously russian serfdom was abolished in 1861. Which is pretty close to the US 1865 for slavery.

Russian serfdom was finally abolished in the emancipation reform of 1861 by Tsar Alexander II.

Well, it's obvious that serfdom built their owners the fanciest of castles and churches and sewers and sidewalks by 1861. It was time to set them free into society to now install themselves into those very buildings to continue their serfdom under a brand new paradigm. ugh, i just said paradigm. could've been worse, i could've said the word "construct" like some Ickehead.

 

[KD Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-16 14:35:00
Reaction Score: 1

In 1857, the first galvanized steel roof was used in North America.

Scary thought that this place was supposedly populated just a bit prior with hundreds of thousands of people.

I tried to find photos of 1855, and see the search results here. Where are the actual photos?

 

[anotherlayer]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-07-16 15:02:36
Reaction Score: 3

Russia's population growth rate from 1850 to 1910 was the fastest of all the major powers except for the United States. Between 1850 and 1900, Russia's population doubled. - Wiki 'History of Russia (1855-1892)' garbage

Shocking stats, right there.

Throughout the last half of the nineteenth century, Russia's economy developed more slowly than did that of the major European nations to its west. Russia's population was substantially larger than those of the more developed Western countries, but the vast majority of the people lived in rural communities and engaged in relatively primitive agriculture. - Transformation of Russia in the Nineteenth Century

lol.

The most direct way in which human capital accumulation might affect standards of living is through higher wages. Literacy is often used as a proxy for higher levels of human capital in pre-industrial societies, where more sensitive measures – such as years of schooling – are difficult to find. We have very little information about literacy in pre-emancipation Russia. Voshchazhnikovo did not get its first school until 1868, several years after the abolition of serfdom.27 This does not mean that no estate serfs could read or write before this time. After each communal meeting, all attendees were required to sign the book of minutes and, in those books that survived, roughly 50 per cent of those present signed their own names (instead of placing a cross by their name or having another peasant sign for them). - Micro-Perspectives on 19th-century Russian Living Standards

Half can't write their own name, but the other half were master engineers and masons! That PDF linked above reads more like an article from The Onion. It's very entertaining.

What is this thing?

 

[Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-07-16 17:04:08
Reaction Score: 0

I came across this last night, I wasn't sure if this was posted, but the vacancy made me giggle. This is St. Petersburg in 1861. Surely it's morning and the buggies are lining up for the hundreds of thousands of shopkeepers, politicians, tourists, printers, the butchers, the bakers, all the candlestick makers:

St. Petersburg Panoramic

View attachment 4603

wow this image is a gold mine!
either put it in the OP or make a entire article around it
there are very very very very few people in that image and it has almost that post-apocalyptic look to it

This is like the strongest picture I’ve seen to date.

that is a understatament, this is the smoking gun and it needs its own thread

Russia's population growth rate from 1850 to 1910 was the fastest of all the major powers except for the United States. Between 1850 and 1900, Russia's population doubled. - Wiki 'History of Russia (1855-1892)' garbage

Shocking stats, right there.

Throughout the last half of the nineteenth century, Russia's economy developed more slowly than did that of the major European nations to its west. Russia's population was substantially larger than those of the more developed Western countries, but the vast majority of the people lived in rural communities and engaged in relatively primitive agriculture. - Transformation of Russia in the Nineteenth Century

lol.

The most direct way in which human capital accumulation might affect standards of living is through higher wages. Literacy is often used as a proxy for higher levels of human capital in pre-industrial societies, where more sensitive measures – such as years of schooling – are difficult to find. We have very little information about literacy in pre-emancipation Russia. Voshchazhnikovo did not get its first school until 1868, several years after the abolition of serfdom.27 This does not mean that no estate serfs could read or write before this time. After each communal meeting, all attendees were required to sign the book of minutes and, in those books that survived, roughly 50 per cent of those present signed their own names (instead of placing a cross by their name or having another peasant sign for them). - Micro-Perspectives on 19th-century Russian Living Standards

Half can't write their own name, but the other half were master engineers and masons! That PDF linked above reads more like an article from The Onion. It's very entertaining.

What is this thing?

View attachment 4619

atmospheric eletricity spire

 

[KD Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-16 18:29:52
Reaction Score: 2

Added the image link to the first post, prior to ant other images. Creating a separate topic is not going to produce a discussion different in substance from this one.

 

[Archive]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-07-18 02:02:25
Reaction Score: 0

Added the image link to the first post, prior to ant other images. Creating a separate topic is not going to produce a discussion different in substance from this one.

the problem is that this image has a lot of stuff on it

 

[Whitewave]

Note: This post was recovered from the Sh.org archive.
Username: whitewave
Date: 2018-07-18 05:55:32
Reaction Score: 0

I will look at the types of available steel in Russia at that time and look for foundry capabilities. I will also check on the brick foundry's capabilities. I did not expect to see this problem so close to us.

Looks like Russia got its first foundry in 1700 with the help of the British. Doesn't really talk much about output or any other details other than a lot of name-dropping.