SH Archive Buffalo, NY - where are the people?

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Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2018-07-12 04:17:45
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Concave Globe Theory!

Are you trolling? That's even worse math.

Maybe this has something to do with it.

 

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Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-07-12 04:52:16
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Are you trolling?

very much so.


Ok, I just found the fakest picture to date (Niagara Square, Buffalo, NY 1913). What is the deal with this photo here? Is it just me or is this a toy model? At least they got the shadows correct this time around, but wow. Why are we having to draw people in to these photos?



Is that electric trolley even on it's track?

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-13 14:29:22
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I have an idea why they did that.

What’s your opinion?

 

[anotherlayer]

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Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-07-13 14:35:11
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I have an idea why they did that.

What’s your opinion?

I feel that the bottom half of the picture is hand drawn. I mean, I can clearly see that it is. But the top half, seems like an actual photo. I think my opinion is pretty close to yours. What year is this? What is being omitted at the street level? I can only assume that something is being hidden. And with that opinion, I can only assume that whatever it is that is being hidden would clearly prove that "the timeline is false, the date is false" and we would immediately call for an OOPA!

Forget humans, where are the birds? Where is the newspaper boy, the shoeshiner, the fruit stands? You can go to Niagara Square any time and you'll spot a handful of birds. Where are the birds?

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-13 14:53:20
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I am not sure about half of the picture being drawn, but then again, may be it is.

What does seem to appear is that they had to populate some of the photographs, because explaining why cities have no inhabitants has to be pretty hard.

 

[anotherlayer]

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Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-07-13 18:54:13
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I am not sure about half of the picture being drawn, but then again, may be it is.

one more... is this a photo or an illustration? the people are definitely drawn. and if this is an illustration, why does this have the same pure grey sky (b/w ok, fine)? and i know it admits to being an illustration but... it's from an odd angle. you make this beautiful drawing but you cut off the church/steeple so awkwardly?

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-13 19:37:29
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Some of those “illustrations” may suggest that there were alternate photography like technologies out there.

Every time I see Piranesi’s doings, I cannot not imagine what kind of an etching machine he had to be to produce the volumes he did.

 

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Username: Hardy
Date: 2018-07-13 20:04:06
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The correct term for this manipulation of photos is called 'retusche'. Surprisingly no English wiki page is available for it. I know the term because i know how to use the airbrush. Airbrushing was also a popular retouching tool in the old photography practice.

Excerpt from the German Wiki,machine translated:

Franz Hanfstaengl won a gold medal at the Paris World Exhibition in 1855 for presenting retouched photographs, which is why he is regarded as the inventor of negative retouching. It is known, however, that Fox Talbot also gave instructions to "clean" images of stains. the difficulty of handling retouched images at the beginning is illustrated by the following quotation.
"Retouching became decisive for the further aesthetic development of photography. With it, the artistic decay of photography began, for if it is not applied with extreme caution, it is precisely the characteristic property of photography, the faithful reproduction, that is abolished. The abuse of retouching that now began completely stripped photography of its essence."
- Gisèle Freund: Photography in the Second Empire (1850-1870)

Retusche – Wikipedia

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-13 21:43:38
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Not sure if retouching should include adding hand drawn objects and people though. Does your german source mention this level of tempering?

Because if that’s the case, we can’t be sure what’s real and what’s not any longer. I assume the progress of this technology would make these added items less discernible.

 

[anotherlayer]

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Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-07-14 01:47:40
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Because if that’s the case, we can’t be sure what’s real and what’s not any longer.

well, shit.

 

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Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2018-07-14 03:00:48
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well, shit.

Taking my avatar now?

 

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Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-07-14 03:03:31
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Ok, I just found the fakest picture to date (Niagara Square, Buffalo, NY 1913). What is the deal with this photo here? Is it just me or is this a toy model? At least they got the shadows correct this time around, but wow. Why are we having to draw people in to these photos?

wow this is a crappy picture indeed, everthing has a fakey plastic look, WTF?

one more... is this a photo or an illustration? the people are definitely drawn. and if this is an illustration, why does this have the same pure grey sky (b/w ok, fine)? and i know it admits to being an illustration but... it's from an odd angle. you make this beautiful drawing but you cut off the church/steeple so awkwardly?

View attachment 4492

it is a illustration but a impossibly good one....

 

[anotherlayer]

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Date: 2018-07-14 03:23:48
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Taking my avatar now?

lol I didn't even put that together. shit.

 

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Username: hajni
Date: 2018-07-14 09:31:30
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It was common practice to alter photos from propaganda reasons, not only in China. they made it with great mastery.
Two Versions of Mao's China: History Retouched as Propaganda
(I beg your pardon, if I derailed the forum again.)

May be, the Saint Petersburg pictures without people have been retoushed too?

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-14 09:46:54
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Just out of curiosity. Why would somebody erase people from hundreds of photographs across the globe?

It’s obvious what the Chinese reasons were.

 

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Username: MoonWatcher
Date: 2018-07-14 12:28:21
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Not sure how the sun tricks can make shades from similar objects line up in differently.

We seem to have quite a few issues with them old photos, don’t we?

If the ground's not level shadows could converge or diverge

 

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Username: Hardy
Date: 2018-07-14 15:56:02
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Just out of curiosity. Why would somebody erase people from hundreds of photographs across the globe?

I think enough photos are authentic and not manipulated, the phenomenon of the missing People stands.

Not sure if retouching should include adding hand drawn objects and people though. Does your german source mention this level of tempering?

Unfortunately this interesting question is a bit left out in the cold like a skeleton in the closet - I would guess: Of cours they did.As well photomontage is no secret and there are artistic technics in Old 'analog' photographie like so called combination printing: "Combination printing is the photography technique of using the negatives of two or more photographic images in conjunction with one another to create a single image."

But i assume that the Controllers did not show their best manipulation possibilities.The situation gets more complicate if Photographie was a RE-iengineering subject like this article signifies.

 

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Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-07-14 17:13:28
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Just out of curiosity. Why would somebody erase people from hundreds of photographs across the globe?

It’s obvious what the Chinese reasons were.

you got me thinking.....
maybe because those people weren't normal, if you know what i mean?

 

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Username: RowOfEleven
Date: 2018-07-30 20:46:02
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I feel that the bottom half of the picture is hand drawn. I mean, I can clearly see that it is. But the top half, seems like an actual photo. I think my opinion is pretty close to yours. What year is this? What is being omitted at the street level? I can only assume that something is being hidden. And with that opinion, I can only assume that whatever it is that is being hidden would clearly prove that "the timeline is false, the date is false" and we would immediately call for an OOPA!

Forget humans, where are the birds? Where is the newspaper boy, the shoeshiner, the fruit stands? You can go to Niagara Square any time and you'll spot a handful of birds. Where are the birds?

I am new here, but popped in to say that I agree with your thought. The bottom half of this picture is incredibly suspect. At the very least, I'd bet that the people are drawn in. Their forms and detail just don't match other parts of the picture (like the buildings).

 

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Username: Prawda
Date: 2019-01-17 00:28:41
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I don't have anything regarding the original topic, but I do want to chip in regarding the shadows... they don't particularly line up in reality, either.

It isn't a trick of the eye or anything like that, I noticed this just last summer. I wish I took more photos of this, but if you look and pay attention, you can see it with your own eyes

I wish I had taken more photos of this as examples, but I didn't know I'd be posting it here! It certainly makes you wonder if we should also investigate our world more. Either NASA is lying about the distance of the sun, or something else is off.