Controlling the Narrative: Mainstream Reception of Stolen History Topics
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Amazing how they found a way to incorporate anti-Semitism in this article...lol!...that had absolutely nothing to do with the article whatsoever, but if you can just say people theorizing about history are anti-Semitic they must automatically be wrong, right? I'm sure there may have been some posts on both stolenhistory forums that may have anti-Semitic/Jewish leanings, but even if these posts existed, they are extremely miniscule compared to the thousands of posts that have no anti-Semitic leanings whatsoever. Just like how the US in this day and time actually has very minimal racism, which is very impressive for a country of 333 million people, but yet if you turned on the mainstream news you would think there are daily race wars across the nation. As someone who travels the country frequently for work, I often ask myself and others, where in this country is this race war taking place? I can't seem to find out where.
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Of course they had to add false accusations of antisemitism. It is called Bloomberg after all.
Anyway, I gotta give credit to the writer. He at least spent some time to get the gist of the "Tartarian Mudflood" right. That is more (effort) then you'd expect from most other journalists these days.
The existence of that article can only bring more people to us. (People who are willing to look up informations themself, anyway)
In any case, now seems like a good time to download a backup of this forum, if you haven't already.
Anyway, I gotta give credit to the writer. He at least spent some time to get the gist of the "Tartarian Mudflood" right. That is more (effort) then you'd expect from most other journalists these days.
The existence of that article can only bring more people to us. (People who are willing to look up informations themself, anyway)
In any case, now seems like a good time to download a backup of this forum, if you haven't already.
I think we are reaching a point of critical mass where the Ferengi can no longer keep up all these lies. Remember, they are businessmen first. So if they see that this charade is cutting into their profits, they will gladly start burying their own.
i'd like to do this, but unfortunately i'm not at all familiar with any of the tools to do so, do you have any tips or quick links for a lazy noob like me?
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If they started to "cry" it is because some nerve was touched and they felt the pain.
With decentralized and accessible information, the truth will eventually appear and they will lose the power to manipulate people. The only alternative they have is to destroy the internet.
One of the most effective ways to disseminate views and opinions is through art. In short, it is necessary to invest in the production of films, animated films, music, paintings, illustrations, comics, fiction / fantasy books with the theme or opinion that one wishes to share / disseminate.
But ... this can be dangerous as the producer and director of the film Gray State (which will never be released) David Crowley found out. In addition to killing you, they will use the title of your job to "reveal" that you were a madman who killed his wife, son and dog and then committed suicide.
But it does not cost, for those who have the skill and time, to create some "art" to attract more people. It is the game that TPTB plays all the time.
With decentralized and accessible information, the truth will eventually appear and they will lose the power to manipulate people. The only alternative they have is to destroy the internet.
One of the most effective ways to disseminate views and opinions is through art. In short, it is necessary to invest in the production of films, animated films, music, paintings, illustrations, comics, fiction / fantasy books with the theme or opinion that one wishes to share / disseminate.
But ... this can be dangerous as the producer and director of the film Gray State (which will never be released) David Crowley found out. In addition to killing you, they will use the title of your job to "reveal" that you were a madman who killed his wife, son and dog and then committed suicide.
But it does not cost, for those who have the skill and time, to create some "art" to attract more people. It is the game that TPTB plays all the time.
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they don't know about the stolen story threads, how sh dot org last year was complete on the korona issue reset with 3000 pages, even the actual history of the Tartary issue. technically it's a good idea to get it into every house, to openly end the Tartary issue.
you are right, they need to control every form of information
you can research "what happened to stolen history" to see comments about narrative control on reddit and how they destroy any people tool that is not following their his story, starting with censorship.
There have been some video responses, this one sums it up about the best.
It is kind of obvious why they are doing this now. Theories we put forward in 2018 and 2019 have gained traction.
We are at a point where facebook using homeschooling moms have Stolenhistory topics and Howdie's book on the curriculum.
It is kind of obvious why they are doing this now. Theories we put forward in 2018 and 2019 have gained traction.
We are at a point where facebook using homeschooling moms have Stolenhistory topics and Howdie's book on the curriculum.
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This is a hilarious one.
I was bored while driving and figured I would search Spotify for podcasts on flat earth. I wanted to hear what the current normie arguments against it would be. What I found was this seemingly "small" podcast called "Behind The Bastards" with an episode titled "Surprise! Flat Earth is a Nazi Conspiracy".
If you're wondering, nothing at all gets debunked (or correctly linked to Nazism for that matter). But the gold mine is the advertisements throughout the show. This episode was sponsored by AT&T, Walmart, LinkedIn, Logitech, Navy Federal Credit Union, and Volvo.
Yes, this single episode contains one or two ads from each of these companies.
Nothing in the episode is about flat earth, rather this forced attempt to tie some random anti-jew book off of Amazon to the flat earth movement. Seventy minutes of jokes that don't land, denying clear truths, and ads.
I am interested to hear who the other "flat earth debunking" podcast or podcast episodes are sponsored by. Maybe Raytheon, Viacom, or NASA itself. It really would not be that insane at this point.
I was bored while driving and figured I would search Spotify for podcasts on flat earth. I wanted to hear what the current normie arguments against it would be. What I found was this seemingly "small" podcast called "Behind The Bastards" with an episode titled "Surprise! Flat Earth is a Nazi Conspiracy".
If you're wondering, nothing at all gets debunked (or correctly linked to Nazism for that matter). But the gold mine is the advertisements throughout the show. This episode was sponsored by AT&T, Walmart, LinkedIn, Logitech, Navy Federal Credit Union, and Volvo.
Yes, this single episode contains one or two ads from each of these companies.
Nothing in the episode is about flat earth, rather this forced attempt to tie some random anti-jew book off of Amazon to the flat earth movement. Seventy minutes of jokes that don't land, denying clear truths, and ads.
I am interested to hear who the other "flat earth debunking" podcast or podcast episodes are sponsored by. Maybe Raytheon, Viacom, or NASA itself. It really would not be that insane at this point.
What is the Great Reset - and how did it become hijacked by conspiracy theorists - BBC
It seems very light on actual information about the reset, and keener to ally criticism of the reset to the usual suspects of:
"anti-vaccine activists, anti-lockdown campaigners, new-age healers, and those on the far right and far left." I don't think we have any of those here do we?
It seems to accept the great reset is a thing. But that one should trust those doing the re-setting are kind of shady, or at least haven't really provided any background to the reset, but are fundamentally trustworthy, thus their actions shouldn't really be questioned, because if you question it you are a dangerous anti vaxxer who hates humanity, an anti lockdown campaigner that might think humans should be as free as birds, a new age healer because healing is bad, and on the far left or right, because this small group of fundamentally trustworthy elites should be able to define what the political badger hole should be and if you aren't in the badger hole you must be an extremist.
Not a great article, but nonetheless mainstream media discussion.
It seems very light on actual information about the reset, and keener to ally criticism of the reset to the usual suspects of:
"anti-vaccine activists, anti-lockdown campaigners, new-age healers, and those on the far right and far left." I don't think we have any of those here do we?
It seems to accept the great reset is a thing. But that one should trust those doing the re-setting are kind of shady, or at least haven't really provided any background to the reset, but are fundamentally trustworthy, thus their actions shouldn't really be questioned, because if you question it you are a dangerous anti vaxxer who hates humanity, an anti lockdown campaigner that might think humans should be as free as birds, a new age healer because healing is bad, and on the far left or right, because this small group of fundamentally trustworthy elites should be able to define what the political badger hole should be and if you aren't in the badger hole you must be an extremist.
Not a great article, but nonetheless mainstream media discussion.
This document is a strategic report detailing a strategy of combatting online manipulation (re: alternative to mainstream views) from the Institute for Strategic Dialogue.
Developing a Civil Society Response to Online Manipulation - ISD
Summary:
"This document presents a vision for a grand, civil societal response to online manipulation: developing the capability to detect it; the coalitions to confront it, the strategies to prevent it, and the structures of cooperation and funding that are needed to do both across all the causes and issues that it now threatens to undermine. It is a response that must combine the specialisation and sophistication that comes with scale with those particular strengths that civil society always has: its diversity, transparency, capacity to connect with marginalised voices, and its bedrock of humane and humanising values."
It is an interesting read. As to whether its suggested strategy is something we see implemented. Time will tell.
Developing a Civil Society Response to Online Manipulation - ISD
Summary:
"This document presents a vision for a grand, civil societal response to online manipulation: developing the capability to detect it; the coalitions to confront it, the strategies to prevent it, and the structures of cooperation and funding that are needed to do both across all the causes and issues that it now threatens to undermine. It is a response that must combine the specialisation and sophistication that comes with scale with those particular strengths that civil society always has: its diversity, transparency, capacity to connect with marginalised voices, and its bedrock of humane and humanising values."
It is an interesting read. As to whether its suggested strategy is something we see implemented. Time will tell.
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Hope I'm not ranting, but in regards to how the subjects are viewed from 'outside'..
We're all very aware of the "narrative wars" but I personally do not think that I, or those like me here, should engage in such war with the "others", or even get excited by it. In the end it's a few people battling over the (online) attention of the observing masses. And honestly, did any of you get here because he saw a good fight online? Or lets say, did anyone have to "bring you"? Would you want to be here if BBC spoke good words of SH and lead the masses to it?
I was drawn to mystery from a small age. Even while keeping up with normie worldviews in earlier days, I still questioned reality. It's a process, combined with "who you are" that brings you to these layers, whether you research stolen history, crime networks or esoteric religions. If someone had to "convert" you to get here, then it's probably not meant to be.
I really don't think anyone here gives two cents about what is said online about "alt history community" because it won't affect your actions. You have self research capabilites - you don't depend on others to give you the truth. That's for herd-minded people who can't do without a priest, a reddit page or a yt channel to get their intellectual dosage, and it's fine to consume those, but you should still go 'out there' and look for your own answers too.
And if at some point, you'd decide these subjects here aren't "your truth" anymore, it will be by your own decision based on your very own research, not because someone convinced you so.
And thats the principle I truly respect.
We should definitely keep watch on the things pointed out in this thread, for the security of the contents of course. As for the rest of it - haters gonna hate. Every day the PTB's system continues, more like us are being born, and they will seek out knowledge when they're ready for it. If people are actually prevented from getting here because of a mainstream article or some other normie crap, then thats where they should be, until they wake up. The fight is going on for centuries, and will continue after us too.
We're all very aware of the "narrative wars" but I personally do not think that I, or those like me here, should engage in such war with the "others", or even get excited by it. In the end it's a few people battling over the (online) attention of the observing masses. And honestly, did any of you get here because he saw a good fight online? Or lets say, did anyone have to "bring you"? Would you want to be here if BBC spoke good words of SH and lead the masses to it?
I was drawn to mystery from a small age. Even while keeping up with normie worldviews in earlier days, I still questioned reality. It's a process, combined with "who you are" that brings you to these layers, whether you research stolen history, crime networks or esoteric religions. If someone had to "convert" you to get here, then it's probably not meant to be.
I really don't think anyone here gives two cents about what is said online about "alt history community" because it won't affect your actions. You have self research capabilites - you don't depend on others to give you the truth. That's for herd-minded people who can't do without a priest, a reddit page or a yt channel to get their intellectual dosage, and it's fine to consume those, but you should still go 'out there' and look for your own answers too.
And if at some point, you'd decide these subjects here aren't "your truth" anymore, it will be by your own decision based on your very own research, not because someone convinced you so.
And thats the principle I truly respect.
We should definitely keep watch on the things pointed out in this thread, for the security of the contents of course. As for the rest of it - haters gonna hate. Every day the PTB's system continues, more like us are being born, and they will seek out knowledge when they're ready for it. If people are actually prevented from getting here because of a mainstream article or some other normie crap, then thats where they should be, until they wake up. The fight is going on for centuries, and will continue after us too.
This page has a link to the original 1967 cia memo which weaponized the term "conspiracy theory"
The Term "Conspiracy Theory" — an Invention of the CIA
Memo here, bit blurry though.
CIA DOC 1035 960 : Central Intelligence Agency : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The Term "Conspiracy Theory" — an Invention of the CIA
Memo here, bit blurry though.
CIA DOC 1035 960 : Central Intelligence Agency : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
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Found this video called "She Thinks Ancient Rome Didn't Exist."
I know for a fact many here think the same (not me, even though the word 'ancient' has a different meaning in my case and with that the general sense of the word 'Roman'), so it's easy to sympathise with her.
But when you see at her/she/they profile I personally smell the poisonous amazonian snake. This is her description: Mom. Wife. She/They. Bi. Jewish. B.A. in Anthropology & History. Still Here. (Donna D2 (@momllennial_)). The platform she uses is the trash and it's an uninterrupted cry for white supremaceeeeeeests. Is this the way the PTPPBBTPTB are using to throw discredit on the entire historical criticism by labelling everything as anti-semeeeeeeete? Here the video:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UawzqGXHvI
All the Roman Empire fanatics are going to bully the snake:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGMYu37fskE
The guy at 11:00 says "part of the conspiracy, just like flat earthers". So they are definitively using this she-clown to discredit the entire 'alternative history' by association with flat-earthers. Is this the beginning of a new witch hunt? This momllenial
calls herself/themselves a witch, by the way.
And again:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UXvI5aopXA
1:20 "There's a danger to the idea of manipulating and misappropriating history for one's own agenda". This is what means to be a scholar. 0 (zero) awareness of how history came to be as what we now know only in the last 500 years. Good luck in explaining it to them!
5:10 And finally she mentions Fomenko's New Chronology as pseudo-historical conspiracy theory. There we go!
So they have infiltrated the dislikable anti-white, semeeeeetic Jewish LGTCPQ++-- with colored hair posing as a real alternative historian only to attract the attention of our common dumb historians to attack her and therefore all the movement. It's beginning guys.
Last but absolutely not least, Pompei is mentioned. For the correct reasons, you will think (SH Archive - 79 A.D. no more: Pompeii got buried in 1631 - Nicht der letzte Tag von Pompeji). No, just watch the last video starting from 23:10. They are clearly associating Pompei with this made up bull..., instead of the findings of Andreas Tschurilow. So the children from social media will start going mad and not listening to whatever facts we will try to teach them and labelling those as 'conspiracy theories' without a second thought.
Ctruth (I think he is member of this forum as well) has done a very good response to the issue. Please check his video (he has done many other videos on recentism and Fomenko):
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNm0I9glUfc
And here a direct response to the last of the three videos before:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkNyezQvDb0
Some more back and forth:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4LdM0CUYUA
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_igGq5eGeM
I know for a fact many here think the same (not me, even though the word 'ancient' has a different meaning in my case and with that the general sense of the word 'Roman'), so it's easy to sympathise with her.
But when you see at her/she/they profile I personally smell the poisonous amazonian snake. This is her description: Mom. Wife. She/They. Bi. Jewish. B.A. in Anthropology & History. Still Here. (Donna D2 (@momllennial_)). The platform she uses is the trash and it's an uninterrupted cry for white supremaceeeeeeests. Is this the way the PTPPBBTPTB are using to throw discredit on the entire historical criticism by labelling everything as anti-semeeeeeeete? Here the video:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UawzqGXHvI
All the Roman Empire fanatics are going to bully the snake:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGMYu37fskE
The guy at 11:00 says "part of the conspiracy, just like flat earthers". So they are definitively using this she-clown to discredit the entire 'alternative history' by association with flat-earthers. Is this the beginning of a new witch hunt? This momllenial
calls herself/themselves a witch, by the way.And again:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UXvI5aopXA
1:20 "There's a danger to the idea of manipulating and misappropriating history for one's own agenda". This is what means to be a scholar. 0 (zero) awareness of how history came to be as what we now know only in the last 500 years. Good luck in explaining it to them!
5:10 And finally she mentions Fomenko's New Chronology as pseudo-historical conspiracy theory. There we go!
So they have infiltrated the dislikable anti-white, semeeeeetic Jewish LGTCPQ++-- with colored hair posing as a real alternative historian only to attract the attention of our common dumb historians to attack her and therefore all the movement. It's beginning guys.
Last but absolutely not least, Pompei is mentioned. For the correct reasons, you will think (SH Archive - 79 A.D. no more: Pompeii got buried in 1631 - Nicht der letzte Tag von Pompeji). No, just watch the last video starting from 23:10. They are clearly associating Pompei with this made up bull..., instead of the findings of Andreas Tschurilow. So the children from social media will start going mad and not listening to whatever facts we will try to teach them and labelling those as 'conspiracy theories' without a second thought.
Ctruth (I think he is member of this forum as well) has done a very good response to the issue. Please check his video (he has done many other videos on recentism and Fomenko):
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNm0I9glUfc
And here a direct response to the last of the three videos before:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkNyezQvDb0
Some more back and forth:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4LdM0CUYUA
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_igGq5eGeM
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Maybe it’s just a coincidence that this project finally has some traction after over a decade in development hell. Maybe its not.
I haven’t read the book, though it’s been recommended to me several times. It’s hard to believe that it’s contents expose anything, outside of whatever stated narratives we already know about the fairs.
Has this semi-critical mudflood article from last year been reviewed here?
The Worldwide Mudslide
Have any articles on Tartary or Mudflood etc appeared in the 'mainstream' press yet?
The Worldwide Mudslide
Have any articles on Tartary or Mudflood etc appeared in the 'mainstream' press yet?
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Funnily enough though folks, many of the 'big names' in the Flat-Earth movement, went into it initially with the stated intent to debunk it as a load of rubbish...But were not able to with the information that exists, and what they can see. So, many 'de-bunkers' often end up reversing course.
Important cautions here. Yes, the tactic is to insert a dialectic and then to simply suck all the energy from the inquiry. Anyone disparaging of curiosity MUST be approached with reservation. Authenticity = first step to true knowledge. regards Goddo F
