Flat Earth

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I usually dislike watching videos. This one is outstanding. I might watch it again.
Actually, it's all audio. I followed along with closed captioning as Eric Dollard explains how the US grid has become so bad, the result of cheap Chinese wiring and the move from analog to digital.
Perhaps the dirty electric grid is one of the reasons (along with microwave cell towers) that bees and other insects are disappearing, as well as birds. Dollard plays dumb about the spinning ball, undoubtedly to stay on good terms with tptb.
He also talks about the ionosphere as a real thing (which it is - flatearthers call it the dome). Modern "science" claims it's the layer of ionized gases that defy gravity and which bounce signals back to earth.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2fq9-7vyY

"Eric Dollard is a living legend. He joins us to blow the lid off what you were taught about the Sun, electricity and the power grid. Eric explains why the Sun behaves more like the anode in a giant cosmic vacuum tube than a nuclear fireball, how the ionosphere really works, and why today’s “smart” digital grid is flooding the Earth with disharmonic junk that wipes out real radio work. It may be frying more than circuits. Modern textbooks have almost no connection to reality."

 

[Skull]

Is light from the stars in the sky (outsde dome) reaching the earth through the water dome? Where do comets, asteroids, etc. come from?

 

[Breizh]

Is light from the stars in the sky (outsde dome) reaching the earth through the water dome? Where do comets, asteroids, etc. come from?

I'd say your question confuses various concepts as it contains elements from several contrasting interpretations. Any responses to your ponderings should first point this out then attempt to suggest more fundamental ideas about the nature of stars, the nature of "outside the dome", and the nature of comets and asteroids...

 

[MJ.nfl]

 

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Photos of comets look like lights shining through a portion of the dome. Periodic meteor showers are the same thing. They are predictable phenomena, as are the sun and moon. Eric Dollard (above) might explain light as a product of the electric "battery" cosmos.

Craters are not impact marks. They are too round and regular to result from space rock collisions.
They do resemble pit corrosion features from welding processes, boiling liquids, other manufacturing processes.

Vibes of Cosmos shows similar craters on photos of the portion of the dome that we call the moon.

 

[Tomkat]

Yesterday I complained about the lack of investigation by flat earthers.
That's not quite true, but at this point, there's no need to keep repeating experiments to reveal the stationary irregular plane.

The sky is our problem. Amateur (and a few Nasa-SpaceX) rockets at least show us that the Karman line is the impenetrable first dome. 60 to 70 miles up. Much improved lenses have also become available to inspect the moon and other objects.
And while a lot of FEers dont take myths seriously, I do. Ancient accounts do agree that at one time in mankind's history, the sky was much lower. In fact, the Greek god Atlas (who is in the news lately) was assigned the job to hold up the heavens.
Again, in simulation theory and world age resets, these things are possible.

Two new videos explore the idea that the night sky is an illusion. maybe a projection within a projection?

This first video is a short YT video by Crrow777. He says the lunar wave is not the only light-bending phenomenon that he and 30 or so other people have photographed. The wiggly line that moves up or down has also been observed on Jupiter, Saturn, and the sun

Just my take on the waves, which I think are super interesting, it reminds of like an old black and white tv screen, I think they would have waves like that too? And as an obnoxious simtard, it just makes me go in my head 'well of course...'...smugly....I'm mostly joking, but I think there definitely something to them I'm just not sure what.

 

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Just my take on the waves, which I think are super interesting, it reminds of like an old black and white tv screen, I think they would have waves like that too? And as an obnoxious simtard, it just makes me go in my head 'well of course...'...smugly....I'm mostly joking, but I think there definitely something to them I'm just not sure what.

Obnoxious simtard, eh? dang, I guess I'll have to add that job description to my crazy conspiracy resume' -- after suntard and flattard.
But are you really joking? Considering all our options (all two of them), and all our authority figures (too many to count), we are stuck in a confusing and constant state of flux, which the internet defines as a continuous flow or movement.
And. When I opened a new tab to look up more flux meanings, guess what I saw at the top of my screen? a little blue line which traveled left to right. yes, Q.E.D., boom, a demonstration of the thing itself. cool, but not when your donkeynet "satellite" signal is slowly buffering or refreshing or whatever you call the process by which video travels in a medium. the aether.
My little blue line is, if we apply Occam's razor, Crrow's lunar wave. He and others have also filmed waves moving on the sun and planets.
Where does the signal originate?
One prominent simtard theory is the North Pole, through which the programmer transmits a simworld hologram above the plane surface of earth. Who is/are the programmer/s? A supernatural being called God? Advanced mortal beings from another dimension? Occam would choose which Creator of the computer program emanating a digital diorama that we are stuck inside?

Whatever, whoever designed this hologram may also have inadvertently allowed hackers to hide its true identity. Other threads on this forum explore outside influences, Tartarians, archons, gatekeepers, etc.

Did any of them tamper with the original design? the Garden of Eden? the dome itself??
unknowable
But the projection theory seems reasonable, in either case.
Someone develops hardware, software, Big Bang universe, then casts an image onto the earth's dome, like how my device's motherboard just now embedded the above map of a place that Google, for some strange reason, skews when obnoxious simtards start looking at their world. And some moontards see wiggly lines on the rock that astro-nots landed on 50+ years ago.
end rant

 

[Breizh]

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Where does the signal originate?
Who is/are the programmer/s? A supernatural being called God? Advanced mortal beings from another dimension?

Anyone can choose to take an appropriate psychedelic and get answers to all their questions via direct first hand experience.

 

[Tomkat]

Obnoxious simtard, eh? dang, I guess I'll have to add that job description to my crazy conspiracy resume' -- after suntard and flattard.
But are you really joking? Considering all our options (all two of them), and all our authority figures (too many to count), we are stuck in a confusing and constant state of flux, which the internet defines as a continuous flow or movement.
And. When I opened a new tab to look up more flux meanings, guess what I saw at the top of my screen? a little blue line which traveled left to right. yes, Q.E.D., boom, a demonstration of the thing itself. cool, but not when your donkeynet "satellite" signal is slowly buffering or refreshing or whatever you call the process by which video travels in a medium. the aether.
My little blue line is, if we apply Occam's razor, Crrow's lunar wave. He and others have also filmed waves moving on the sun and planets.
Where does the signal originate?
One prominent simtard theory is the North Pole, through which the programmer transmits a simworld hologram above the plane surface of earth. Who is/are the programmer/s? A supernatural being called God? Advanced mortal beings from another dimension? Occam would choose which Creator of the computer program emanating a digital diorama that we are stuck inside?

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Whatever, whoever designed this hologram may also have inadvertently allowed hackers to hide its true identity. Other threads on this forum explore outside influences, Tartarians, archons, gatekeepers, etc.

Did any of them tamper with the original design? the Garden of Eden? the dome itself??
unknowable
But the projection theory seems reasonable, in either case.
Someone develops hardware, software, Big Bang universe, then casts an image onto the earth's dome, like how my device's motherboard just now embedded the above map of a place that Google, for some strange reason, skews when obnoxious simtards start looking at their world. And some moontards see wiggly lines on the rock that astro-nots landed on 50+ years ago.
end rant

I am joking insofar as being smug about; like in a 'I knew it! ' way....(Cause I really don't know)

 

[Tomkat]

Anyone can choose to take an appropriate psychedelic and get answers to all their questions via direct first hand experience.

I couldn't disagree more. If this is in fact a virtual reality, a simulation, then it's entirely possible that any and all experiences we have are not 'real'. This includes dying, being in other realms and interacting with non human beings.
Edit- this is why I believe the answer (sort of) to this FE conundrum is in it being a simulation; we are on a simulated globe. It makes sense from a programming standpoint to represent this globe using 'flat' maps. Think video game. Think rendering. Think programming. Our hangup stems from us discovering this anomaly. The theory goes that we do not have full access to our own minds and true memories while here. But, while that may be true, it is believed by some that this universe/planet does mirror reality, but is translated through code.

Edit2 - for those who see the inherent beauty in all of this, all of the incomprehensible interconnectedness (I'm looking at you Just), let that be a source of hope; this amazing beautiful mess is a pale reflection of who we really are and where we really come from. Obviously, real reality isn't perfect though either, or we wouldn't be experiencing this bullshit in the first place.

 

[Breizh]

I couldn't disagree more. If this is in fact a virtual reality, a simulation, then it's entirely possible that any and all experiences we have...

Until you've had direct first hand experience then no "conclusions" can be made. It's all prevarication, albeit detailed and adventurous prevarication. I'm not against discussion btw as it's essential! I'm merely pointing out that direct first hand experience is the ideal gold-standard for forming perspectives and contextualising the self and all that is, the realm etc. You have direct first hand experience of day-to-day things, including writing posts on this forum. But there is another more ineffable side to things associated with the interplay between the finite & infinite - having direct first hand experience of this ineffable would provide ample insights and answer every single question you might have.

Psychedelic botanicals happen to be the most accessible way for anyone to "take a look for themselves" and "see what the fuss is about".

 

[Tomkat]

Until you've had direct first hand experience then no "conclusions" can be made.

Direct first hand experience of what exactly? If this is a VR, then all experiences might seem real, but they wouldn't be.

It's all prevarication, albeit detailed and adventurous prevarication.

To prevaricate according to Merriam-Webster means to deviate from/'play fast and loose with' the truth ..so, are you saying 'its all lies'? And if so please elaborate.

I'm not against discussion btw as it's essential! I'm merely pointing out that direct first hand experience is the ideal gold-standard for forming perspectives and contextualising the self and all that is, the realm etc. You have direct first hand experience of day-to-day things, including writing posts on this forum. But there is another more ineffable side to things associated with the interplay between the finite & infinite - having direct first hand experience of this ineffable would provide ample insights and answer every single question you might have.

My point is simply that if this reality we inhabit is a simulation, then your not going to find any real truth by dropping acid or astral projecting or meditating. This sort of ambiguous new age word salad makes no sense to me. If knowing truth were so simple I believe the world would be a very different place.

Psychedelic botanicals happen to be the most accessible way for anyone to "take a look for themselves" and "see what the fuss is about".

No offense but this strikes me as essentially useless. I presume you have done this and yet you are here. I have taken enough psychedelics to kill a horse and no big existential epiphanies.

 

[jeenam]

Until you've had direct first hand experience then no "conclusions" can be made. It's all prevarication, albeit detailed and adventurous prevarication. I'm not against discussion btw as it's essential! I'm merely pointing out that direct first hand experience is the ideal gold-standard for forming perspectives and contextualising the self and all that is, the realm etc. You have direct first hand experience of day-to-day things, including writing posts on this forum. But there is another more ineffable side to things associated with the interplay between the finite & infinite - having direct first hand experience of this ineffable would provide ample insights and answer every single question you might have.

Psychedelic botanicals happen to be the most accessible way for anyone to "take a look for themselves" and "see what the fuss is about".

I'm sure you're well aware that anyone who has not experienced this first-hand for themselves has pretty much zero clue the gravity of your statement regarding how one can experience things for themselves that extend beyond the sensing capabilities of humans under normal circumstances. You can read plenty about it from the experiences of others, but i GUARANTEE nothing can prepare you for the experience. Once undertaken, one's perception and concept of reality will be forever changed. It's pretty much impossible to get this point across to anyone unless they experience it. I'd compare the experience to the difference between deaf or blind persons to those who have normal eyesight and hearing. And to be honest, that's probably an insufficient comparison.

There's a reason things like this are outlawed - because they can't have the plebs figuring out what's going on. I can 100% guarantee that if every human were mandated to undergo the experience the world would be a much, much saner place. Plus folks would lose their fear of death because it wouldn't be a mystery to them any longer. And the fear of death is one of the tools of control utilized by organized religions and the medical industry.

 

[Tomkat]

I'm sure you're well aware that anyone who has not experienced this first-hand for themselves has pretty much zero clue the gravity of your statement regarding how one can experience things for themselves that extend beyond the sensing capabilities of humans under normal circumstances. You can read plenty about it from the experiences of others, but i GUARANTEE nothing can prepare you for the experience. Once undertaken, one's perception and concept of reality will be forever changed. It's pretty much impossible to get this point across to anyone unless they experience it. I'd compare the experience to the difference between deaf or blind persons to those who have normal eyesight and hearing. And to be honest, that's probably an insufficient comparison.

There's a reason things like this are outlawed - because they can't have the plebs figuring out what's going on. I can 100% guarantee that if every human were mandated to undergo the experience the world would be a much, much saner place. Plus folks would lose their fear of death because it wouldn't be a mystery to them any longer. And the fear of death is one of the tools of control utilized by organized religions and the medical industry.

The reality is that no one gets enlightened by taking psychedelics. Didn't y'all learn anything from the hippies? It don't work. Same for Buddhism, nothing wrong with meditating and all that, can be good for you, but this nonsense sold to the west about enlightenment (escape) being simple as pie is a load of horse manure.

To suggest taking psychedelics will answer all of your questions is so ridiculous that I'm out. Y'all have fun with this one.

 

[Tomkat]

Back to something substantial about our flat earth:

• Columbia offers Flat Earthers the keys to the company in new ad​

  Through a new short film, and an open letter in the New York Times, Columbia CEO Tim Boyle has challenged Flat Earthers to find the edge of the Earth and take a photo of it – and to wear Columbia gear while doing so
  By Daniel Milroy Maher 08/12/2025
  Building on its Engineered for Whatever brand platform, Columbia Sportswear has released a new campaign that continues the brand’s tongue-in-cheek marketing strategy. Titled Expedition Impossible, it features a surprise call-out by Columbia’s CEO, targeted at the Flat Earth community.
  Developed in partnership with adam&eveDDB, who recently worked with the brand to launch its new platform, this latest release takes the tomfoolery one step further. In a short campaign video, the company’s leader Tim Boyle makes a tantalising offer to conspiracy theorists all around the world who believe the Earth is flat: if they can find the supposed edge of the planet, they can win everything the company owns.
  Shot at the Columbia headquarters in Portland, Oregon, the film focuses on Boyle as he wanders around the office listing the many things one lucky winner could own – from the coffee machines and whiteboards to a mounted deer’s head and two gondola passenger cabins. As he addresses the Flat Earth community, his employees repeatedly butt in to clarify what is actually up for grabs and what is not.
  
  Silly and sarcastic in tone, Expedition Impossible maintains Columbia’s new approach to marketing, which in turn draws on the brand’s history of offbeat storytelling. Boyle explains: “This is another example of Columbia’s mission to channel the bold, irreverent energy that has long defined the brand.”
  Beyond the silliness, this communication style also creates space for Columbia to highlight the quality of its gear, without adopting the kind of self-important tone that other outdoor brands can fall prey to. It shows that the Columbia team can take their products seriously, without taking themselves seriously.
  
  
  
  Boyle adds: “[Expedition Impossible] illustrates our legacy of durability and innovation – highlighting the extremes our gear can go through, even to the ends of the Earth. Which don’t actually exist, but try telling Flat Earthers that.”

 

[jeenam]

The reality is that no one gets enlightened by taking psychedelics. Didn't y'all learn anything from the hippies? It don't work. Same for Buddhism, nothing wrong with meditating and all that, can be good for you, but this nonsense sold to the west about enlightenment (escape) being simple as pie is a load of horse manure.

To suggest taking psychedelics will answer all of your questions is so ridiculous that I'm out. Y'all have fun with this one.

I wasn't referring to the "toys" aka recreational stuff, and neither was Breizh. There are medicines in this world far more powerful than the toys.

 

[Tomkat]

I wasn't referring to the "toys" aka recreational stuff, and neither was Breizh. There are medicines in this world far more powerful than the toys.

That's fine, but I stand by what I said. Also, could you be more specific, or is being mysterious and cryptic part of this powerful medicine you speak of?

 

[Breizh]

To prevaricate according to Merriam-Webster means to deviate from/'play fast and loose with' the truth ..so, are you saying 'its all lies'? And if so please elaborate.

• "Prevaricate is less accusatory and softens the bluntness of lie, usually implying that someone is evading the truth rather than purposely making false statements."

Perhaps "naive prevarication" is more fitting to highlight that you're subconsciously evading/rejecting an easy way to gain direct first hand experience of the answer to your questions.

I referred to it as "detailed and adventurous prevarication" because you're evading finding out using colourful & complex reasoning which postulates and hypothesises but never dares to actually proactively "move the curtain aside" and "see it directly", first hand.

My point is simply that if this reality we inhabit is a simulation, then your not going to find any real truth by dropping acid or astral projecting or meditating.

A simulation certainly, I'd agree, but maybe not the kind that your language & rational mind makes it out to be?

No offense but this strikes me as essentially useless. I presume you have done this and yet you are here. I have taken enough psychedelics to kill a horse and no big existential epiphanies.

Maybe the matches you were striking were unknowingly damp? It sounds like a full detox process is necessary to dry the matches. Damp matches look like real matches but are useless.

The reality is that no one gets enlightened by taking psychedelics.

Whose reality? If this is VR then everyone is following their own unique subjective adventure. How can you make acute assumptions about the nature & level of engagement that others might have within their own private VR experience?

To suggest taking psychedelics will answer all of your questions is so ridiculous that I'm out.

The whole point is to learn and gain insight and understanding (some artistically call it innerstanding or overstanding) of oneself which subsequently illuminates ones perception which, by default, includes everything "out there".

 

[Tomkat]

• "Prevaricate is less accusatory and softens the bluntness of lie, usually implying that someone is evading the truth rather than purposely making false statements."

Perhaps "naive prevarication" is more fitting to highlight that you're subconsciously evading/rejecting an easy way to gain direct first hand experience of the answer to your questions.

You've got to be kidding. How condescending of you. An easy way to gain direct first hand experience of the answer to your questions. Easy, cool, why didn't I think of that. For the record, I'm assuming you are chatgpt based on how you speak.

I referred to it as "detailed and adventurous prevarication" because you're evading finding out using colourful & complex reasoning which postulates and hypothesises but never dares to actually proactively "move the curtain aside" and "see it directly", first hand.


A simulation certainly, I'd agree, but maybe not the kind that your language & rational mind makes it out to be?

Or maybe things are exactly what I'm suggesting and your delusional. You seem to project a lot. Also, your use of prevaricate seems wrong to me. Just my opinion.

Maybe the matches you were striking were unknowingly damp? It sounds like a full detox process is necessary to dry the matches. Damp matches look like real matches but are useless.


Whose reality? If this is VR then everyone is following their own unique subjective adventure.

How is that exactly? What if we are all in a video game together that isn't your own private subjective VR?

How can you make acute assumptions about the nature & level of engagement that others might have within their own private VR experience?

Where does the own private VR come from and again why would it be like that?

The whole point is to learn and gain insight and understanding (some artistically call it innerstanding or overstanding) of oneself which subsequently illuminates ones perception which, by default, includes everything "out there".

If you say so

 

[ViniB]

There's a reason things like this are outlawed - because they can't have the plebs figuring out what's going on. I can 100% guarantee that if every human were mandated to undergo the experience the world would be a much, much saner place. Plus folks would lose their fear of death because it wouldn't be a mystery to them any longer. And the fear of death is one of the tools of control utilized by organized religions and the medical inindustry.

While it's true that an altered state via medical psychedelics can open the door to our immaterial reality, it's only a glimpse into another reality that we can't even be sure of what it is. For years i tried this path looking for answers, my most profound altered states of being were during meditations, not with substances, because our brains naturally produce DMT in the pineal gland. It healed me from an s.a as a child in an experience i can only describe as divine, for lack of a better word

We got the key within ourselves, but there’s not a whole lot of good information about it due to a ton of supression on the methods of how to use it.

But this has nothing to do with fear of death. Every living creature, from the smallest of bugs to the biggest whales have this instinct to avoid potentially harmfull and dangerous situations, it's inate of living beings, like a designed safety mechanism. And denying that is what usually leads guillable individuals towards death cults.

And let's be honest with ourselves, due to the parasitic materialistic control system we live under, every piece of real knowledge that could lead to a major paradigm shift is either locked away in a basement or lost somewhere.

Some say that this world is electro magnetic in nature, in which i tend to agree because all living beings have an EM field around the body, that also explain why for over a century, our connection with base reality has been destroyed and manipulated over time (true nature and shape of our world included) in order to create this living hell of an existance

Apologies for derailing the thread, but i felt that some could appreciate these viewpoints