Thank you Vinib, I agree with you 100%, and thanks for saying it better than I could've.
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Without the DMT experience I'd have never have realized the material world around me is in actuality vastly different than how I am allowed to normally perceive it due to the default tuning specifications of the human sensory organs. I could see for the first time that everything in the material realm is truly vibrating at frequencies that are normally imperceptible. It was then I understood why it is said that all matter is vibration and nothing is truly solid.
I'd had another experience with a research chemical that modified my visual sense and I could literally see the world around me moving frame by frame. That was when I realized that our visual sense is tuned to a specific "refresh rate", so to speak. In other words, there is a consistent input rate that our brain processes visual input from our eyes. Think of a video camera's photo receptor and how it constantly takes input data in real time. However, the capture framerate is configured by the video processing engine that utilizes the receptor as the input. Standard framerates for modern technology range from 24 fps (motion picture film aka movies), 30 fps (NTSC standard, actually 29.97 fps), PAL (25 fps), 60 fps, and so on.
And now back to flat earth...
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Agreed, back on the topic of flat earth - or at least level earth with much postulation on the shape. The realm being level is observable fact and can be empirically verified. Whether this "3D fact" is valid in higher dimensions is up for debate. The physical dimensions of the dome(s: 7?), the nature of that which is beyond it (waters?) and the nature of the local sun & moon are all fascinating ponderings. There's also the black sun (inner sun?) and the famous hollow earth interpretation which IMO can be reconciled with flat/level earth partly via reference to a toroidal dynamic and it's signature "North" & "South" openings.
Personally, I acknowledge flat/level earth and the imagery of a toroid superimposed upon it. Imagine a marble with a flat disc half-way. I would then interpret this flat/level disc as being perfectly spherical in it's "3D form" (for lack of a better term).
This is my attempt at describing the "ultimate" reconciliation of a level plane earth + dome(s) (as many here might agree with) with a spherical earth that the public would agree with.
Personally, I acknowledge flat/level earth and the imagery of a toroid superimposed upon it. Imagine a marble with a flat disc half-way. I would then interpret this flat/level disc as being perfectly spherical in it's "3D form" (for lack of a better term).
This is my attempt at describing the "ultimate" reconciliation of a level plane earth + dome(s) (as many here might agree with) with a spherical earth that the public would agree with.
At the time I didn't know you'd tried psychedelics. It wasn't my intention to be condescending.
Nope, none of that. Never used it and never will.
Maybe you're right and the projector is self-defined.
The subjective participation in an objective realm.
A subjective self-defined experience sailing on the objective sea.
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gee.
I thought I had counted all the puzzle pieces of the sim world.
I forgot about the perception deception.
Then, I was instructed to take drugs . . . to see the aether or the cosmic serpent or ?? hidden reality.
But I am old school - big-time - opposed to any outside influence, including botanicals and synthetics.
Do NOT tamper with my mind. It may be small, feeble, puny................... but it's mine and mine alone.
But I also recognize that some deep thinkers credit DMT, LSD, etc. for insights that I respect.
Frank Herbert allegedly took magic mushrooms to write Dune:
“The mind commands the body and it obeys. The mind orders itself and meets resistance.”
“Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.”
“He who controls the spice controls the universe.”
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
............. fine words, whether we agree with them or not.
Did drugs open the writer's mind or were they there all along? or. Did the spice give him the freedom to express his ideas openly?
All I know is that I know lots of people whose lives were ruined by taking substances.
That includes Ritalin, Xanax, and all the other Pharma meds prescribed for ADD, depression, weight control, and of course, pain.
Side effects almost always include No Improvement, Lifetime Dependence, and btw, Death.
No thanks. If I ever achieve enlightenment and see the eternal rigaramole, I'll do it myself.
Years ago I woke up after a surgery (which I regret to this day). When I was told I was hooked up to a morphine drip, I was about to rip out the needle, but the nurse got to it it first.
That said, I do take natural herbs and gentle exercises to improve my tendency to entropy.
My natoropath told me I was her only normal patient. I thought she was joking. But nope. She assured me that all the others had mental issues.
My next post will expand on that sad reality
I thought I had counted all the puzzle pieces of the sim world.
I forgot about the perception deception.
Then, I was instructed to take drugs . . . to see the aether or the cosmic serpent or ?? hidden reality.
But I am old school - big-time - opposed to any outside influence, including botanicals and synthetics.
Do NOT tamper with my mind. It may be small, feeble, puny................... but it's mine and mine alone.
But I also recognize that some deep thinkers credit DMT, LSD, etc. for insights that I respect.
Frank Herbert allegedly took magic mushrooms to write Dune:
“The mind commands the body and it obeys. The mind orders itself and meets resistance.”
“Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.”
“He who controls the spice controls the universe.”
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
............. fine words, whether we agree with them or not.
Did drugs open the writer's mind or were they there all along? or. Did the spice give him the freedom to express his ideas openly?
All I know is that I know lots of people whose lives were ruined by taking substances.
That includes Ritalin, Xanax, and all the other Pharma meds prescribed for ADD, depression, weight control, and of course, pain.
Side effects almost always include No Improvement, Lifetime Dependence, and btw, Death.
No thanks. If I ever achieve enlightenment and see the eternal rigaramole, I'll do it myself.
Years ago I woke up after a surgery (which I regret to this day). When I was told I was hooked up to a morphine drip, I was about to rip out the needle, but the nurse got to it it first.
That said, I do take natural herbs and gentle exercises to improve my tendency to entropy.
My natoropath told me I was her only normal patient. I thought she was joking. But nope. She assured me that all the others had mental issues.
My next post will expand on that sad reality
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ok
But there is more than one door to open before we go there.
> "You didn't build that." <
yep. Barry Hussain Obummer gave us our marvelous health care insurance plan and this ^ truthful factoid.
Then Biden and Trump came along to build more trap doors for us to fall into ...,,,, and Ta Da! Merry Hanukkah, kids
Why did I post the image of the giant metal door on a flat earth thread? come on, guess.
Nah. Give up.
It's my Holistic Unified Theory that explains reality. It takes in Ancient Aliens, Tartaria, the Bible, Gold, Foosball, and ginormous doors ^ that make absatively no sense. Primitive humans used hand tools and donkey carts to construct that massive beauty? or. did giants build it? Tall Nordics? Reptilians?
No way did Homo sapiens build the Old World. Cathedrals, pyramids, star forts. And gigantic deserts and melted cities in the middle of nowhere.
If non-humans created the old world, where are they now? When did human slaves take over? 1800? 1900?
Whoever the builders were, they did not leave their superior knowledge and skills with our ancestors after the reset.
Because after the great wars and massive destruction, :-\ evil humans conspired to keep us in the dark. No free energy, none of the previous great tech of the so-called ancients. The only things they invented were mind control systems to believe in the fool's paradise called the spinning globe.
Why did the Anunnaki abandon their magnificent earth colony? One guess is that, even with all their advanced science and architecture, they were nevertheless week in spirit. They let physical pleasures overrule their electric essences (soul, nous, all those can-of-worms terms.
In other words, a malevolent being hacked into the #Earth# computer program and infiltrated the minds of the Anunnaki and their minions > Homo ignoranus.
Their leaders, Enki, Enlil, Anu, whoever? finally accepted the bitter truth that Saturn runs the evil clown circus under the earth's dome. They ordered a retreat, left some capable watchers to maintain control, as well as human overseers to ride herd on the sheeple.
Their packed their bags, took as much gold as they needed for their own home world dome repair, and got the heck out of Dodge.
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View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr0ye9QnYZM
"I have shown that the Earth is literally a corpse just as every culture claimed...made of the bodies of Giants. The Thumbnail is from tendon enthesis that are microscopic in us.
The final tests on Asteroid Bennu are in and it is 100% biology and is 1000"s of times bigger then us and Psyche is Millions of times larger than us. Every Meteorite tested is also biology. The Universe was created not evolved from slime and this is the proof.
This Video is the Biggest Discovery in Human History.....CASE CLOSED!!!"
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umm, not so fast, big talker. and watch where you point that feather.
Asteroid Bennu is real. No, not a rock zipping around near earth or other tomdamfoolery. It's a chunk of metal or stone that Nasa graphic artists found somewhere and dressed up all fancy to go to the prom.
But what difference, at this point, does it make?
I don't subscribe to Mudfossil University, just check out the globe believer now and then.
He does make some reasonable conclusions that I agree with. His Biology Universe traces reality back to the first version of the computer game, when aeons larped in titanac flesh suits. Giants came later, after the mile-high Titans disappeared.
In other words, the first world age was when "biological" entities walked the earth as gods. so to speak. Uranus Gaia, Cronus, their famous children of Greek and Norse myth. the proverbial digital diorama.
That chemical-and-physical-and electrical construction became the permanent basis of earth's matter. all matter. Mater Terra.
Our flat earth is full of their "corpses" and those of gigantic trees, animals, other life forms.
Yes, that implies that organic matter became inorganic. Mountains, rocks, gravel, sand, etc.
Chicken or egg - which came first?
In my case, methodology led me to epistemology when I noticed interesting dark pink streaks in marble tiles on my bathroom floor.
which looked like arteries in a living creature. which had then become petrified.
which happened when the game was over and a new world age was built on the remains of the previous one.
It's truly a shame the thread has turned into an endless of "useless theories," posted just for the sake of posting. It all boils down to "Mr. Who Cares says 'blah blah blah...' in his book 'Whatever'."
followed by "simulation simulation simulation" the rest are psyop and the justification is personal feelings of liking or disliking or with "I agree".
Note that there is no investigation, experiment, observation, or research on it or even having had experience or was witnessed.
I know that behind the intention is not really to obtain answers or understand anything, but rather to make people lose interest in knowing, understanding, and discussing Flat Earth. That's what's behind it.
One of the most important points about Flat Earth is the key to freeing the man mind from its prison and reconnecting with itself. And this has nothing to do with religion or beliefs. They can't let this happen.
Actions is making constantly to keep everyone in a state of fear and hopelessness, making you feel worthless. Welcome to Simulation. The newest prison is open, come in!
I think it would be great if we could start having posts/discussions again about/with information, investigation, experiment, observation, research, or even having had experience or been witnessed regarding flat earth in the Flat-Earth Thread.
followed by "simulation simulation simulation" the rest are psyop and the justification is personal feelings of liking or disliking or with "I agree".
Note that there is no investigation, experiment, observation, or research on it or even having had experience or was witnessed.
I know that behind the intention is not really to obtain answers or understand anything, but rather to make people lose interest in knowing, understanding, and discussing Flat Earth. That's what's behind it.
One of the most important points about Flat Earth is the key to freeing the man mind from its prison and reconnecting with itself. And this has nothing to do with religion or beliefs. They can't let this happen.
Actions is making constantly to keep everyone in a state of fear and hopelessness, making you feel worthless. Welcome to Simulation. The newest prison is open, come in!
I think it would be great if we could start having posts/discussions again about/with information, investigation, experiment, observation, research, or even having had experience or been witnessed regarding flat earth in the Flat-Earth Thread.
Similar to this kind of thing, perchance?
I don't know what kind of thing you're referring to but please enlighten me.
When I first jumped on this thread I was a total naysayer; if no one had 'solved' the mystery of flat earth after 80 pages, why bother? I've done a 180 since then though, and I love this thread now. Of course it meanders and drifts into other places. There is speculation, YouTube videos, books, articles yada yada yada. All of it. I love this thread because there is life in it. It keeps us engaged with one another, so it's worth it.
And yes, simulation simulation simulation, cause that's what this is and in the end you will all be saying to yourselves "dammit, Tomkat was right"
Wait....
Speaking of that, aren't you supposed to have some moon stuff for us? I wanna see it.
I can only really speak for myself, though I do occasionally act differently. I'll give my small part that might contribute; the reason I mention a video game reality in relation to flat earth is because I think it might help explain what is really going on. Not sure as I'm not code or programming savvy. Quick anecdote: maybe three years ago, two nights back to back, same exact time, the moon in two totally different places. So simple. There is only one explanation.
I personally feel confident that regardless of any other questions (i.e space, stars, domes, touroids, craters, electromagnetism etc) that this land/sea scape is flat. The numbers all say so. No curve. Up or down.
Happy solstice by the way.
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Bugger! The pasting of the link failed... Or more likely I didn't notice it hadn't copy pasted, how embarrassing.
Here it is....I double checked this time
What actually happens when the sun sets?
Here it is....I double checked this time
What actually happens when the sun sets?
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I didn't know that.
We all started out ignorant and confident in the globe model.
My own awakening was in 2015, on a forum where a poster I respected (Rothbard) dared to present such a crazy idea.
After a few hours investigating the topic, the scales fell from my eyes and I began my continuing education into flat earth.
I also learned over the years that most people refuse to even consider the possibility that their world is not a spinning ball with air and water clinging to a surface that rotates 1000 mph and orbits the sun at 66,600 mph.
But after all these years, you get tired of reinventing the wheel. We have proven conclusively that our world sits in an infinite plane. New information is getting harder and harder to find, because major points have already been settlerd -- laws of physics, observations, empirical evidence, logic, spherical trigonometry, etc.
If Seiya wants to present better intelligence, good. Do it. Otherwise, ignore my posts or sta4t a new "fact-based" discussion.
I look every day for videos and fresh material but usually find nothing new under the plasma sun.
This one is not entirely new. It touches on something Vibes of Cosmos did a while back about the Precession of the Equinoxes -- or some other term to describe the movement of the uppermost dome. By dome, I mean the electromagnetic center of the wheels-within-wheels of the universe.
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aCJ634ItJCM
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It all seems like a contradiction but the spherical depiction of the realm might actually be a higher dimensional representation, one or more steps above what we consider 3D geometry. (the paraphrasing is necessary for now)
This means that the spherical earth actually represents an infinite plane, and as you travel towards the centre of this spherical earth you traverse higher dimensional realms. This conveniently overlaps with idea of inner earth and hollow earth (which I personally consider real phenomena).
So it looks like a common mistake is to interpret spherical earth as a 3D sphere that we are familiar with (eg a football). It's not. The spherical earth is a "hyper-sphere". If you were to depict the hyper-sphere in regular 3D geometry you'd get an infinite flat plane. This might explain why it's challenging to accurately depict the realm in a way that makes 3D geometrical sense whilst acknowledging it's hyper-spherical nature. Which is why I wrote that it all seems like a contradiction, and probably explains what the globe psyop uses as leverage to confuse and pretend earth is just some planet around a sun and it's all due to random occurrence.
With the understanding that earth's infinite plane is a hyper-sphere which contains all within this shifts things from random occurrence to purposefully designed masterpiece.
Visuals of a HyperSphere:
Stereographic Projection of a HyperSphere
Hypersphere
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The universe has also been called the cosmic egg and a torus field, which can be spherical or donut-shqped.
not unlike the Big Bang theory which is a ridiculous claim that > First there was nothing. Then it exploded.
Germ theory. Atom theory. Science is all theory now.
I expect it's all a magick act. Physicists take true knowledge and hide it behind a false rationale.
But now that honest researchers are able to film lunar waves and oher unexplainable phenomena, we may finally see through all the illusions presented as science.
View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/yMgVjZDGb98
I'll try to get a full-length video that will explain this curious sight more fully.
Crrow also says that observatory personnel have been told to not look at the moon when they know that the lunar waves will happen.
Other people have filmed waves on planets and the sun.
Proof positive of what? Energy pulses??
While the physics may involve plasma (ionized gases) in the dome, the wavy effects sure as blazes looks like what my internet does when my "satellite" signal buffers and makes the refresh icon thingie circle and circle.
A reasonable conclusion -?- a projection that needs the router to boost and resend output.
Some people object to the simulation theory. That's semantics. quibbling over word meanings. As is the fuss over the definition of reality.
Is the image of Trump on a tv screen real? a simulation?
yee. both. The great writers and philosophers were right. The scientists, at Nasa and universities, are lying about the real world.
not unlike the Big Bang theory which is a ridiculous claim that > First there was nothing. Then it exploded.
Germ theory. Atom theory. Science is all theory now.
I expect it's all a magick act. Physicists take true knowledge and hide it behind a false rationale.
But now that honest researchers are able to film lunar waves and oher unexplainable phenomena, we may finally see through all the illusions presented as science.
View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/yMgVjZDGb98
I'll try to get a full-length video that will explain this curious sight more fully.
Crrow also says that observatory personnel have been told to not look at the moon when they know that the lunar waves will happen.
Other people have filmed waves on planets and the sun.
Proof positive of what? Energy pulses??
While the physics may involve plasma (ionized gases) in the dome, the wavy effects sure as blazes looks like what my internet does when my "satellite" signal buffers and makes the refresh icon thingie circle and circle.
A reasonable conclusion -?- a projection that needs the router to boost and resend output.
Some people object to the simulation theory. That's semantics. quibbling over word meanings. As is the fuss over the definition of reality.
Is the image of Trump on a tv screen real? a simulation?
yee. both. The great writers and philosophers were right. The scientists, at Nasa and universities, are lying about the real world.
Give us a bit more Jd755...
Nothing more to give. Its entirety is the two quoted statements.
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I'm sticking with the simulation theory until someone comes along with a better explanation for this reality.
My simplistic model proposes an aether universe created when another dimension projects a hologram.
Our sky is basically a movie screen populated by electromagnetic phenomenoa we perceive as stars, sun, moon, planets.
As evidence for the illusory nature of the celestial objects, I point to Crrow777's lunar waves, which to me look like the leading edge of an incoming flow of internet signals. People like me, who have sloooow "satellite" service, are quite used to seeing the little lines and circles that move at the top of the page when the system is loading or refreshing.
Lately, Croww has been recording similar waves moving on the sun.
In this one-minute video he looks at the sun itself, its solar threads and ejections as plasma effects in the hydrogen alpha wavelength.
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I03YNPIdx3k
Wiki
Plasma (from Ancient Greek πλάσμα (plásma) [1][a] 'that which has been formed or moulded or the result of forming or moulding'[2]) is a state of matter that results from a gaseous state having undergone some degree of ionization. It thus consists of a significant portion of charged particles (ions and/or electrons). While rarely encountered on Earth, it is estimated that 99.9% of all ordinary matter in the universe is plasma.[3] Stars are almost pure balls of plasma, and plasma dominates the rarefied intracluster medium and intergalactic medium.[4][5][6][7] Plasma can be artificially generated, for example, by heating a neutral gas or subjecting it to a strong electromagnetic field.[8]
Artist's rendition of the Earth's plasma fountain, showing oxygen, helium, and hydrogen ions that gush into space from regions near the Earth's poles. The faint yellow area shown above the north pole represents gas lost from Earth into space; the green area is the aurora borealis, where plasma energy pours back into the atmosphere.[36]
My simplistic model proposes an aether universe created when another dimension projects a hologram.
Our sky is basically a movie screen populated by electromagnetic phenomenoa we perceive as stars, sun, moon, planets.
As evidence for the illusory nature of the celestial objects, I point to Crrow777's lunar waves, which to me look like the leading edge of an incoming flow of internet signals. People like me, who have sloooow "satellite" service, are quite used to seeing the little lines and circles that move at the top of the page when the system is loading or refreshing.
Lately, Croww has been recording similar waves moving on the sun.
In this one-minute video he looks at the sun itself, its solar threads and ejections as plasma effects in the hydrogen alpha wavelength.
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I03YNPIdx3k
Wiki
Plasma (from Ancient Greek πλάσμα (plásma) [1][a] 'that which has been formed or moulded or the result of forming or moulding'[2]) is a state of matter that results from a gaseous state having undergone some degree of ionization. It thus consists of a significant portion of charged particles (ions and/or electrons). While rarely encountered on Earth, it is estimated that 99.9% of all ordinary matter in the universe is plasma.[3] Stars are almost pure balls of plasma, and plasma dominates the rarefied intracluster medium and intergalactic medium.[4][5][6][7] Plasma can be artificially generated, for example, by heating a neutral gas or subjecting it to a strong electromagnetic field.[8]
Artist's rendition of the Earth's plasma fountain, showing oxygen, helium, and hydrogen ions that gush into space from regions near the Earth's poles. The faint yellow area shown above the north pole represents gas lost from Earth into space; the green area is the aurora borealis, where plasma energy pours back into the atmosphere.[36]
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I think that automated accounts are sometimes used to derail, create noise and obfuscate certain things...
Well Grav, apparently you are an automated account (or maybe Jd755 is, it's unclear). Nevertheless I appreciate you here. At least you aren't using chatgpt, are you? No one can disprove sim theory so let them eat cake or something.
Roll eyes all you want. But lemme ask everyone here: if you heard someone mention that the earth was flat, say 25 years ago, what would your reaction have been?
I agree there is no better theory.
