Flat Earth

If there is a conspiracy, its probably that people are told that oil and gas are fossile fuels. This is made within the earth.
As you have noticed, the date of "Peak oil" is always pushed forward while they are pumping up more and more oil and the many oil wells are refilling up by themselves.

The earth has been growing, and we probably dont know why.
Earth was smaller million years ago and had less gravity, thats why dinosaurs legs, necks and bones could withstand the weight.


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https://dinox.org/
 
The talk of Aliens has reminded me about what Bob Lazar said regarding his investigations within area 51. The advanced UFO technology he was studying was actually found in an archeological dig. This makes sense from a FE persepctive, this is ancient human technology from a previous civilisation. The more recent 'sightings' could be our reverse engineered reproduction of this ancient tech. I agree with matematik about them using the idea of aliens to strengthen the whole concept of outer space, which I find myself no longer believing in. It's funny, I was a huge fan of the X-Files, I was like Mulder in that I wanted to believe, so I was always biased towards the possibility of space travel and aliens and yet still ended up not believing in it!

Just been talking about the TV series 'The Prisoner' on another thread. For the first time it has just occured to me that this may be symbolic of the round earth scam. So, is the village symbolic of the realm we are currently in, as we are told that it is limited and there is no way out. Nothing exists outside of the village. Only local maps exist, the rest of the world is not acknowledged to exist at all. When he tries to escape via the sea an odd character called 'Rover' stops him. Rover is a giant white sphere, balloon like, which envelopes him and returns him to the village.

You can watch it all for free on youtube, I'm going to rewatch it soon as it's been a while.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcq2Ape4DTw&list=PLm-jfafuTZEEi0ByMGDdkOmvnQwHMd3ce
 
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Thoughts about posts above:

1. While I think "aliens" exist, I reckon that most or all of the ufo sightings are hoaxes courtesy of the elite brainwashing agenda. For what purpose? Before he died, Wehrner Von Braun predicted an alien invasion scam. This could be achieved with a Bluebeam projection. For what purpose? All nations joining to form a One World Government.

2. Fossil fuels are impossible, aren't they? Organic matter either decomposes quickly or petrifies. So they may be formed from below the crust. I also remember reading Velikovsky's reports of burning naphtha raining down on the earth in ancient times.

3. The Prisoner was a superior and seriously weird tv program. The Truman Show also depicted a hapless human kept in a caged habitat. A few Star Trek episodes and other sci-fi also hinted that earth is an enclosed terrarium.

4. Spraking of a terrarium, that protected environment requires a lid.
I've been trying to find images or text to embed, like that CIA Dropbox file.
No luck so far. And it does include multiple pages.
This link is one of a few that list of Nasa documents that address the firmament:
NASA Documents Conclusively Provide ‘Proof’ of a ‘Flat Nonrotating Earth’

5. Record-keeping would be an efficient way to quickly access information that supports the FE position. I had a research thread years ago at a forum which has since been overtakrn by Nasa shills posing as mods.
There are plenty of books, videos, images, and other ingelligence that makes our case. But we need a better system. Online, free, copy-and-paste- friendly. If we had Nasa's budget, $52 million a day, we could make it happen.
 
Thoughts about posts above:

1. While I think "aliens" exist, I reckon that most or all of the ufo sightings are hoaxes courtesy of the elite brainwashing agenda. For what purpose? Before he died, Wehrner Von Braun predicted an alien invasion scam. This could be achieved with a Bluebeam projection. For what purpose? All nations joining to form a One World Government.

2. Fossil fuels are impossible, aren't they? Organic matter either decomposes quickly or petrifies. So they may be formed from below the crust. I also remember reading Velikovsky's reports of burning naphtha raining down on the earth in ancient times.

3. The Prisoner was a superior and seriously weird tv program. The Truman Show also depicted a hapless human kept in a caged habitat. A few Star Trek episodes and other sci-fi also hinted that earth is an enclosed terrarium.

4. Spraking of a terrarium, that protected environment requires a lid.
I've been trying to find images or text to embed, like that CIA Dropbox file.
No luck so far. And it does include multiple pages.
This link is one of a few that list of Nasa documents that address the firmament:
NASA Documents Conclusively Provide ‘Proof’ of a ‘Flat Nonrotating Earth’

5. Record-keeping would be an efficient way to quickly access information that supports the FE position. I had a research thread years ago at a forum which has since been overtakrn by Nasa shills posing as mods.
There are plenty of books, videos, images, and other ingelligence that makes our case. But we need a better system. Online, free, copy-and-paste- friendly. If we had Nasa's budget, $52 million a day, we could make it happen.

1. What I have read is that aliens might be beings from (beyond) the Poles.

4. Do we have any engineers or architects here? As far as I know the curvature of the Earth is not taken into account when planning railways, lighthouses and air travel (planes don't compensate for the curvature).

5. Which forum was that?
 
Thoughts about posts above:

1. While I think "aliens" exist, I reckon that most or all of the ufo sightings are hoaxes courtesy of the elite brainwashing agenda. For what purpose? Before he died, Wehrner Von Braun predicted an alien invasion scam. This could be achieved with a Bluebeam projection. For what purpose? All nations joining to form a One World Government.

2. Fossil fuels are impossible, aren't they? Organic matter either decomposes quickly or petrifies. So they may be formed from below the crust. I also remember reading Velikovsky's reports of burning naphtha raining down on the earth in ancient times.

3. The Prisoner was a superior and seriously weird tv program. The Truman Show also depicted a hapless human kept in a caged habitat. A few Star Trek episodes and other sci-fi also hinted that earth is an enclosed terrarium.

4. Spraking of a terrarium, that protected environment requires a lid.
I've been trying to find images or text to embed, like that CIA Dropbox file.
No luck so far. And it does include multiple pages.
This link is one of a few that list of Nasa documents that address the firmament:
NASA Documents Conclusively Provide ‘Proof’ of a ‘Flat Nonrotating Earth’

5. Record-keeping would be an efficient way to quickly access information that supports the FE position. I had a research thread years ago at a forum which has since been overtakrn by Nasa shills posing as mods.
There are plenty of books, videos, images, and other ingelligence that makes our case. But we need a better system. Online, free, copy-and-paste- friendly. If we had Nasa's budget, $52 million a day, we could make it happen.

1. What I have read is that aliens might be beings from (beyond) the Poles.

4. Do we have any engineers or architects here? As far as I know the curvature of the Earth is not taken into account when planning railways, lighthouses and air travel (planes don't compensate for the curvature).

5. Which forum was that?

1. I agree about aliens coming from outside the dome. Sitchin's Anunnaki seemed to come through a watery entrance. I also think that the "creator" was an Advanced Being who wrote the Sim Earth program.

4. Eric Dubay's free pdf, "200 Proofs Earth Is Not a Spinning Ball," lists several examples of flat construction engineering, including the Suez Canal, over 100 miles of level waters connecting 2 seas.

5. Lunatic Outpost. Heavily censored, one of several forums which allow "no flat earth derp."
Thoughts about posts above:

1. While I think "aliens" exist, I reckon that most or all of the ufo sightings are hoaxes courtesy of the elite brainwashing agenda. For what purpose? Before he died, Wehrner Von Braun predicted an alien invasion scam. This could be achieved with a Bluebeam projection. For what purpose? All nations joining to form a One World Government.

2. Fossil fuels are impossible, aren't they? Organic matter either decomposes quickly or petrifies. So they may be formed from below the crust. I also remember reading Velikovsky's reports of burning naphtha raining down on the earth in ancient times.

3. The Prisoner was a superior and seriously weird tv program. The Truman Show also depicted a hapless human kept in a caged habitat. A few Star Trek episodes and other sci-fi also hinted that earth is an enclosed terrarium.

4. Spraking of a terrarium, that protected environment requires a lid.
I've been trying to find images or text to embed, like that CIA Dropbox file.
No luck so far. And it does include multiple pages.
This link is one of a few that list of Nasa documents that address the firmament:
NASA Documents Conclusively Provide ‘Proof’ of a ‘Flat Nonrotating Earth’

5. Record-keeping would be an efficient way to quickly access information that supports the FE position. I had a research thread years ago at a forum which has since been overtakrn by Nasa shills posing as mods.
There are plenty of books, videos, images, and other ingelligence that makes our case. But we need a better system. Online, free, copy-and-paste- friendly. If we had Nasa's budget, $52 million a day, we could make it happen.

1. What I have read is that aliens might be beings from (beyond) the Poles.

4. Do we have any engineers or architects here? As far as I know the curvature of the Earth is not taken into account when planning railways, lighthouses and air travel (planes don't compensate for the curvature).

5. Which forum was that?

1. I agree about aliens coming from outside the dome. Sitchin's Anunnaki seemed to come through a watery entrance. I also think that the "creator" was an Advanced Being who wrote the Sim Earth program.

4. Eric Dubay's free pdf, "200 Proofs Earth Is Not a Spinning Ball," lists several examples of flat construction engineering, including the Suez Canal, over 100 miles of level waters connecting 2 seas.

5. Lunatic Outpost. Heavily censored, one of several forums which allow "no flat earth derp."
 
5. Lunatic Outpost. Heavily censored, one of several forums which allow "no flat earth derp."

I wonder why that is.

In general I wonder why the topic triggers such an emotional response among most people. No other topic is so controversial, apparently.

It beats the heck outta me too :unsure:

Antisemitism, whatever its definition, is another touchy topic.
Free energy, 5g, anti-vaxx also arouse negative emotions in many people.
And that's when they are even allowed to be exposed to heresies.
It is true that indoctrination starts early, but I think close-mindedness is a genetic predisposition.
 
5. Lunatic Outpost. Heavily censored, one of several forums which allow "no flat earth derp."

I wonder why that is.

In general I wonder why the topic triggers such an emotional response among most people. No other topic is so controversial, apparently.

I have definately noticed the same thing. I used to go on the David Icke forum before I came across SH. You could have some good discussions on most topics, except for the flat earth topic. I just had a look for the first time in ages, every FE thread has been locked, which doesn't surprise me. I lost count of the times I tried to have a sensible discusion about FE on that forum, I never managed to get close. Without exception you would get all the RE believers insulting and ridiculing anyone who dared to even entertain the idea. This also showed me that I was in the wrong place there, some very closed minded posters!
 
5. Lunatic Outpost. Heavily censored, one of several forums which allow "no flat earth derp."

I wonder why that is.

In general I wonder why the topic triggers such an emotional response among most people. No other topic is so controversial, apparently.

I have definately noticed the same thing. I used to go on the David Icke forum before I came across SH. You could have some good discussions on most topics, except for the flat earth topic. I just had a look for the first time in ages, every FE thread has been locked, which doesn't surprise me. I lost count of the times I tried to have a sensible discusion about FE on that forum, I never managed to get close. Without exception you would get all the RE believers insulting and ridiculing anyone who dared to even entertain the idea. This also showed me that I was in the wrong place there, some very closed minded posters!

Their logic is that "the flat Earth theory is a psyop to make people instantly believe that conspiracy theorists are nutjobs".

Yeah, because the belief that the elites are reptilians is more accessible and logical than the Earth's shape not being what we are told to believe it is.
 
5. Lunatic Outpost. Heavily censored, one of several forums which allow "no flat earth derp."

I wonder why that is.

In general I wonder why the topic triggers such an emotional response among most people. No other topic is so controversial, apparently.

I have definately noticed the same thing. I used to go on the David Icke forum before I came across SH. You could have some good discussions on most topics, except for the flat earth topic. I just had a look for the first time in ages, every FE thread has been locked, which doesn't surprise me. I lost count of the times I tried to have a sensible discusion about FE on that forum, I never managed to get close. Without exception you would get all the RE believers insulting and ridiculing anyone who dared to even entertain the idea. This also showed me that I was in the wrong place there, some very closed minded posters!

Their logic is that "the flat Earth theory is a psyop to make people instantly believe that conspiracy theorists are nutjobs".

Yeah, because the belief that the elites are reptilians is more accessible and logical than the Earth's shape not being what we are told to believe it is.

riiiiight!
You can capture a reptilian and prove that the royals are possessed with them.
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but no way can you use laws of physics, and math, and long distance photos, and any of the other crazy psyops flatearthers pull.

Stanley Kubrick, who faked the moon landings, did so to get funding to make movies like 2001, a Space Odyssey. His last movie was Eyes Wide Shut. A perfect title to describe how people only see what The Control System tells them they see.

David Icke has to know the true shape of earth. He puts on this act to make a living as a public speaker and writer.
 
The talk of Aliens has reminded me about what Bob Lazar said regarding his investigations within area 51. The advanced UFO technology he was studying was actually found in an archeological dig. This makes sense from a FE persepctive, this is ancient human technology from a previous civilisation. The more recent 'sightings' could be our reverse engineered reproduction of this ancient tech. I agree with matematik about them using the idea of aliens to strengthen the whole concept of outer space, which I find myself no longer believing in. It's funny, I was a huge fan of the X-Files, I was like Mulder in that I wanted to believe, so I was always biased towards the possibility of space travel and aliens and yet still ended up not believing in it!

My sentiments as well.

Nothing comes from outside our realm in the 3D sense. This is it. Any woo woo technology we've found is from past civilizations, not from aliens outside this realm. There is no outside this realm. This place has been turned upside down multiple times. The whole space thing is a fabrication, same as ball planets floating in a vacuum.

Our controllers can't stand being cooped up in this realm under god's watch, and must believe we have the agency to break out of here. As of late THEY have constructed a new religion of scientism that works to destroy the old beliefs and institutes a luciferian lie about the nature of our realm. THEY want the plebes to be captured in this new intellect-based world of physical form while they scurry around weaving a web of lies and trying to figure out on their own how the hell to get the Creator off their backs.

We plebes, also feeling constrained in some vague way, believe the only way out of here is to get on a space ship and haley on. We live the lie while our controllers know more, but are confused themselves, trying to figure out what's going on, signing on to lucifer who might have the answer because THEY don't want to take the Creator's way out. THEY want immortality, so they follow satan and create their stupid upside down world. What a shitshow!
 
The expanding earth video, hmm. Even Tesla proposed aether coming down from above and being absorbed into the inner earth, making the ball fatter.

Another pie-in-the-sky theory for academics to argue over.

If we apply it to the flat earth, it would involve an expanding dome that encompasses a larger area of the "infinite" plane. Could this have been the cause of the Dark Rift known as the Milky Way?

Ancient cultures mention a lower firmament. The Tower of Babel was an attempt to build a ladder to Heaven. Chinese myth speaks of a goddess whol held up and repaired a sky ceiling that was getting too low for comfort. The sky is falling, Chicken Little, the sky is falling. And Jack in the Beanstalk climbed into a giant's home in the clouds. But the sky is higher now, or at least the first layer that Nasa mapped out in the 60s with their "atom bomb" tests.

As I guessed earlier, I think that chemtrails may be trying to hide the skydome, or prepare it for a Bluebeam alien invasion.

To connect with the forum's premise of fake history, it sounds like this world age may be about to reset. Maybe because the human hamsters are realizing they can escape from their cage. And the elites don't want that to happen.
 
That was a good response, and a positive sign that there still are critical thinkers out there in the aether.
As for Nasa, you don't have to be a flatearther to see that agency as the Ministry of Truth which controls (rules) all science. I mean pseudoscience, aka theoretical science.
Instead of using the Scientific Method to obtain repeatable empirical data, scientists are now encouraged to speculate and invent fake mathematical constants. e=mc^2 for example, would have us believe that light travels forever.
But it looks cool when a faker with wild hair draws it on a chalkboard.

We will never know our real history, but by golly, we can take real laws of physics and honest math to discover that we don't live on a wet spinning ball in a vacuum.

Hi, let´s talk about : WHO is doing so big lies and for what reason?
One reason, you EVER will find is - CASH!
If you lie about going to moon or mars, you will ask for MONEY to start the equipment and the technology and the staff and....
So, you see, its a MONEY-MAKER!!!! In real, you take that money for to dig in the ground to have big areas in secret, to go ahead with teslas big ideas, not for the masses, but for the ÉLITE´, or what they think they are...!
Oh, by the way: THEY know very clear, earth is be done by THAT power, you know as GOD, GODESS, ....and is flat, with middle NORTHPOLE and circled halfway äquator and surrounded by ICEWALL Antarktis. The only area, every State around the world is happy to accept, to walk on is FORBIDDEN!!!!!
Another point of interest:
When GOD made human being like herself, WE have also the POWER to create, to make our wishes came true!
There is very less, we are fenced to overtake that possibility:
Clean up your body (eat NO pieces of animals, drink NO alcohol, bath your body for at least 2h/day for 3 weeks in natron-water to start cleaning via osmose -150g per bath), and after that, clean your mind of all egoistic ideas , you THINK you would wish, and start thinking about what you realy wish!!!
( Imagine, a fairy ask you for 3 wishes, WHAT is it, you would ask for? Would it realy be a sportscar and 5 kg gold??? or would it be 1.)peace, 2.) freedom, 3.)love -not ONLY for YOU, instaed for all living thing on earth? I did!
I think it is worth checking, using a sextant, the true distance of one degree of latitude at, say 25 parallel vs at 50.
I have the impression the length of a degrees of latitude measured relative to North Star is found almost equal by ancient navigators, but this do not conform to a globe model, so it was presented to us as if latitudes/parallels are set relative to the (fictional) center of the earth instead. Now the numbers of fictional globe conform to real earth measurements.
In reality, at least in olden times, if north star is visible in the sky at 45 degree it means you are at 45th parallel. Should check that myself though. :)

Also it seems never is the whole half of the Earth lit by the sun, worth checking also. With huge sun like that, it should lit very close to a half or even more, sunrise appearing at the same time at both top and bottom of the globe. I will probably keep these up in my future plans.

It seems to be easier: don´t think about the sun bigger than 55km wide, in around 4000km highness. there is a map, Gleasons new standart map of the world from 1892(?), on that you see the sun never enlights more than 90°....
5. Lunatic Outpost. Heavily censored, one of several forums which allow "no flat earth derp."

I wonder why that is.

In general I wonder why the topic triggers such an emotional response among most people. No other topic is so controversial, apparently.

I have definately noticed the same thing. I used to go on the David Icke forum before I came across SH. You could have some good discussions on most topics, except for the flat earth topic. I just had a look for the first time in ages, every FE thread has been locked, which doesn't surprise me. I lost count of the times I tried to have a sensible discusion about FE on that forum, I never managed to get close. Without exception you would get all the RE believers insulting and ridiculing anyone who dared to even entertain the idea. This also showed me that I was in the wrong place there, some very closed minded posters!


Its hard to be alone with a working kind of a brain...! For me it seems to be clear: Because, if you begin to ask for the "MOTHER OF ALL CONSPIRACYS", that idea of mother earth flat and sourunded by icewall Antarktis, covered with the firmament, THEN you are on the path of true, of coming to the very shoking idea of YOU are importent, YOU have power ...
THAT is something, in NO WAY the elite want you to know.
THAT is the reason of all the "TRUTHER", beeing paid to burn down a lots of fake-fakenews, not to find you the truth!!!!
Sorry, may be some of them THINK realy, they do some good. But, unfortunaly, they do not! They try YOU not to find the lies, to engage your power in staircases instead in the townhall!!!!
And be carefully, because I myself found me 20 years ago very quick in a sanatorium with knocked doors, when I tryed to tell my outfindings....
 
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This debate is easy to debunk with all of you guys from different places / continents . Set a time when the moon it's visible and capture some photos. If you all see the same shape (align with cardinal points) that should be = earth is round, else = it's flat. Btw time zones by itself debunks the FE theory because of the sun "hitting" earth from nort to south.
 
I enjoy 'Vlad from Flat Earth' videos, short clips using his Nikon P1000 to record video of star and 'planet' movements. I particularly like his images of stars that look like wave forms jumping around and flashing different colors. No solid globes there. Debunkers say it's just an image out of focus, but what about the dancing around?

He made an interesting comment in this latest video - How come some stars get larger in his view finder as he zooms in? If they are supposedly millions and billions of light years away, it shouldn't matter how much you zoom., they should stay points of light. Is there a come back to that observation?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drY1VhhFbD8
 
Stars getting larger in cameras in high zoom is obviously because of imperfection of the optics or athmospheric distortion. FE/UFO community seems to be filled with extremely lack of technical understandings, which destroys good conversations. And it puts up a barrier to spread alternative cosmology because main stream people with good technical skills will think all alternative theories is like this and will laugh at everyone attached to this.
So yes, if FE is a psy-op it is damn well working exactly like planned.
 
Stars getting larger in cameras in high zoom is obviously because of imperfection of the optics or athmospheric distortion. FE/UFO community seems to be filled with extremely lack of technical understandings, which destroys good conversations. And it puts up a barrier to spread alternative cosmology because main stream people with good technical skills will think all alternative theories is like this and will laugh at everyone attached to this.
So yes, if FE is a psy-op it is damn well working exactly like planned.

If FE is a psyop then why when I search for Flat Earth videos on Youtube all I get is parodies and the only way to access real FE videos is to seek the channels that are dedicated to that topic?
 
Stars getting larger in cameras in high zoom is obviously because of imperfection of the optics or athmospheric distortion. FE/UFO community seems to be filled with extremely lack of technical understandings, which destroys good conversations.

Nothing's obvious here, except your need to accuse people of lacking your special understanding. A throw away comment blaming optical imperfection and atmospheric distortion is not a winning argument. You are the one destroying a good conversation. If you want to address the issue I raised, you need to qualify what you mean by atmospheric distortion and optical imperfection in plain language. What is optical imperfection anyways? Is the camera faulty? Is what we see through a lens not what is actually out there? To what degree is it distorted? A little bit, a lot, 10% out of whack? Should we be mistrustful of all imagery that is viewed and photographed through a lens?
 
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