Flat Earth

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Tomorrow:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8qwZhYQfb8

It's narrated by the person who has one of the most arrogant, snotty voices in human history. I'll wait for the videos shredding their "evidence" of flat earth.

Videos which shread FE evidence. haha, as if.
Eric Dubay does have an annoying voice. But his free pdf, 200 Proofs Earth Is Not a Spinning Ball, may be the most important document to disprove the heliocentric model.

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html
While Dubay borrowed heavily from other writers, his brief summaries and images make a well-organized and compelling case that, imo, started the modern flat earth movement. This is his second proof.

2) The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.

 

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Dubray did take information from books from the 1800s, but a lot measurements and math he uses is wrong. As for gravity he's basically saying gravity doesn't work as he understands it, so everyone else is wrong.

Which measurements and math are wrong? Specify, please.
Even professional shills do not dispute the drop formula as 8 inches times miles squared.

Gravity is not a force. It is a property of matter -- density.
When particles of matter are lighter-than-air, they float: clouds, smoke, helium balloons.
When particles are heavier-than-air, they fall: raindrops, tree leaves, tennis balls.
I am heavier-than-water and sink in a swimming pool.
My sister-in-law is lighter-than-water and floats like a cork.

 

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View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/lSQQST8P311V/

 

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View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/lSQQST8P311V/

Watched it today. Excellent work by everybody involved.

 

[Starman]

View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/lSQQST8P311V/

Watched it today. Excellent work by everybody involved.

Enjoyed it as well, but didn't rise to the heights I had hoped. I note in the final act of the video, Dubay is itching for deGrasse Tyson to follow through and debate him.

Nice to see prominent FEers working together and keeping up the energy. I really appreciate how these guys are speaking out and have learned a lot from them these past two years as a recovering ball earther. I thought being a Velikovskian was enough for me, but I feel fortunate to have discovered another deeper layer of the onion.

 

[Lightseeker]

View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/lSQQST8P311V/

Watched it today. Excellent work by everybody involved.

Enjoyed it as well, but didn't rise to the heights I had hoped. I note in the final act of the video, Dubay is itching for deGrasse Tyson to follow through and debate him.

Nice to see prominent FEers working together and keeping up the energy. I really appreciate how these guys are speaking out and have learned a lot from them these past two years as a recovering ball earther. I thought being a Velikovskian was enough for me, but I feel fortunate to have discovered another deeper layer of the onion.

I had expected the documentary to be longer than just barely over an hour but it did feature new content, such as video footage of that scientist claiming that the moon is made of plasma. Or the guy addressing a group of judges (?) showing how in official documents there is talk of a flat, non-rotating Earth, or the cameos by pilots.

I found it odd that they would all address DeGrasse Tyson at the end. Kind of felt sorry for the man, because he is not the only one poking fun at flat Earthers. He simply happens to be the most prominent.

The vid is at 60 K views as of now on Youtube. Let's see how long until it gets taken down.

 

[Lightseeker]

View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/lSQQST8P311V/

Watched it today. Excellent work by everybody involved.

Enjoyed it as well, but didn't rise to the heights I had hoped. I note in the final act of the video, Dubay is itching for deGrasse Tyson to follow through and debate him.

Nice to see prominent FEers working together and keeping up the energy. I really appreciate how these guys are speaking out and have learned a lot from them these past two years as a recovering ball earther. I thought being a Velikovskian was enough for me, but I feel fortunate to have discovered another deeper layer of the onion.

I had expected the documentary to be longer than just barely over an hour but it did feature new content, such as video footage of that scientist claiming that the moon is made of plasma. Or the guy addressing a group of judges (?) showing how in official documents there is talk of a flat, non-rotating Earth, or the cameos by pilots.

I found it odd that they would all address DeGrasse Tyson at the end. Kind of felt sorry for the man, because he is not the only one poking fun at flat Earthers. He simply happens to be the most prominent.

The vid is at 60 K views as of now on Youtube. Let's see how long until it gets taken down.

I doubt it'll be taken down. You'll see reasonable people shred the claims made in the movie, but I think it'll remain up.

Here's the problem I see with both Flat Earth and Young Earth Creationism, they spend a lot of time trying to knock down the evidence provided by science, but don't provide any of their own. Often times both groups will make claims that can simply be dismissed because they don't have anything to back them up.

This thread alone contains quite a few proofs.

 

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The weather balloon satellite was a new detail also. I hadn't seen any of that footage of crashing satellites with balloons attached. I think the timing for this is really good also. It gives populists new energy to expose the frauds of the cabal, especially since the Covid narrative is getting a bit stale, even for the talking heads. I'm sure they would love to talk about "those crazy flat earthers" over addressing vaccine damage and deaths. Even though it's a relatively short video, I think it's great, especially for the newly initiated. Much preferred over the Globebusters or Mark Sargent/Patricia Steer marathon Google hangouts of 3+ hours per video with very little actual content or proofs. Should be interesting to see how this plays out, especially since deGrasse Tyson is on the defensive. Why wouldn't he debate Dubay if the globe is so easy to prove? On another note, it will also focus new attention on Spacex, raising new questions as to what that is really all about, not to mention the alien "disclosure" project. Flat earth cosmology blows the lid off of many of the cabal's long planned agendas.

 

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Yes I know gravity is that one argument here it seems, but it wasn't many years ago we had no radio, television, computers or anything else, who is to say we will not have a better explanation for gravity here one day?

So if gravity holds Earth on its path around the Sun then it is a HUGE force. It will pull everything on Earth as well. Is this means your weight in daytime when you are "between" Earth and Sun less than night time when the Sun's gravity force try to pulling you trough Earth?

Remember when Flat Earth believers through out large numbers their primarily goal is to confuse you and awestruck you into not believing in something.

it's actually the total opposite. The conventional (globular) model is the one that uses impossibly large numbers to explain away everything.

Why don't we ever see paralax in regards to the stars? Oh that's because they're all many trillions of light years away.

How can we see all those stars if they're so far away? Well you see there's different star types, some of which are Super Giants which can be as big as our solar system!

Why is it that we can see further than we should if we're living on a spherical earth with a 25 thousand mile circumference? You're just not able to comprehend the extreme size of the earth maaaaaan.

Here's an analogy I want to make to explain my feelings on the Flat Earth.

Have you ever visited someone's house where they have pets, dogs, cats, or their house is dirty? They don't seem to notice the smell and once you are there long enough you don't notice the smell. This is called Nose Blindness.

Motion is also a sense, but since all life evolved already having a natural Motion Blindness. We only notice movement and motion when something deviates from it.

You are constantly deviating from it.

Flat earth skeptics love to use newtons first law that, if a body is at rest or moving at a constant speed in a straight line, it will remain at rest or keep moving in a straight line at constant speed unless it is acted upon by a force.

People like to use this as proof that we can be moving at thousands of miles per hour in multiple directions, but in the end it's jusy lazy thinking. It makes sense that you can jump up on a plane and land in the same spot because we're dealing with an object that is going in a straight line at a constant velocity. This is not the case AT ALL with the earth. It is supposedly spinning on multiple axis, circling the earth at 67,000 mph, and shooting through space at nearly half a million mph SIMULTANEOUSLY. Even just simplifying it and looking at one of the motions, NONE of them have a constant velocity because they are moving in circles. Moving in a circle means your velocity is constantly changing which means you are constantly accelerating. Newtons first law does NOT apply here and it is impossible for a constant acceleration of this magnitude to be IMPERCEPTIBLE and affect NOTHING about our world. What makes much more sense is that the earth is not moving just as we percieve it. You only think you're moving because you're told you are by NASA.

 

[El Forastero]

View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/lSQQST8P311V/

Watched it today. Excellent work by everybody involved.

Enjoyed it as well, but didn't rise to the heights I had hoped. I note in the final act of the video, Dubay is itching for deGrasse Tyson to follow through and debate him.

Nice to see prominent FEers working together and keeping up the energy. I really appreciate how these guys are speaking out and have learned a lot from them these past two years as a recovering ball earther. I thought being a Velikovskian was enough for me, but I feel fortunate to have discovered another deeper layer of the onion.

I had expected the documentary to be longer than just barely over an hour but it did feature new content, such as video footage of that scientist claiming that the moon is made of plasma. Or the guy addressing a group of judges (?) showing how in official documents there is talk of a flat, non-rotating Earth, or the cameos by pilots.

I found it odd that they would all address DeGrasse Tyson at the end. Kind of felt sorry for the man, because he is not the only one poking fun at flat Earthers. He simply happens to be the most prominent.

The vid is at 60 K views as of now on Youtube. Let's see how long until it gets taken down.

I doubt it'll be taken down. You'll see reasonable people shred the claims made in the movie, but I think it'll remain up.

Here's the problem I see with both Flat Earth and Young Earth Creationism, they spend a lot of time trying to knock down the evidence provided by science, but don't provide any of their own. Often times both groups will make claims that can simply be dismissed because they don't have anything to back them up.

You simply haven't looked into it, I'm afraid.

 

[El Forastero]

That wasn't a reply to you.

 

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I skipped a lot through the video, having heard all this before.
As I have often said, very few people will watch a video, no matter how good it is.
I forgot to look for a text summary, which is a much better way to introduce flat earth to new truthers.
Debating Neil deGrasse Tyson is something most of us old hands could do, with relative ease.

 

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I skipped a lot through the video, having heard all this before.
As I have often said, very few people will watch a video, no matter how good it is.
I forgot to look for a text summary, which is a much better way to introduce flat earth to new truthers.
Debating Neil deGrasse Tyson is something most of us old hands could do, with relative ease.

I understand why someone familiar with the subject would skip through, though it is quite possibly, in my opinion, the most palatable flat earth presentation to date that I've seen. A text summary would definitely be quite useful, though I wonder how long it will last on YouTube 2.0, so I imagine there will be a lot of mirror posts on other platforms.

I think ultimately the cabal will get on board Flat Earth, and perhaps this video was made just for that purpose. I don't think it was an accident that the UN flag's design is a flat earth map inside of a target scope. This would also appear to be another aspect to the larger disclosure project.

This disclosure project entails making the Left the ultimate scapegoat while the alt Right emerges as the saviors of the New World Order. The timing of this disclosure will be closely connected with the planned world financial/currency collapse, which will entail what some researchers have labeled a "truth tsunami", a giant expose of the crimes of the cabal, but through the filter of the alt right, of which I have concluded Dubay and the entire team on this "Level" film project are a part of. The truth tsunami will unpack a plethora of conspiracies we've been talking about and researching for years, including flat earth, 911, geo-engineering, pizzagate, paperclip, monarch, mk ultra, nasa, election fraud, the plandemic, just to name a few. The Q psyop is also a part of this, as well as the majority of the "truth" movement. How they will ultimately roll this out and when is probably their best kept secret, but once it finally begins, it will be epic.

Right now we appear to be in the final push before the collapse, so, as I've already stated, the timing for the release of this seems to be quite telling, as it is tailor made for the newly awakened and is just what we could use right now: a viral, populist video that polarizes like no other subject does.

 

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I think ultimately the cabal will get on board Flat Earth, and perhaps this video was made just for that purpose.

Really? But how could the Illuminati disclose FE truth after all those decades of globe-ism?
It would be great if it happened. The only way I can this come to pass if there is a world age reset. maybe a mudflood or other cataclysm.
DITRH interviewed a woman who was around 100 years old. She remembers learning that the world was flat back in the 1930s, I think. I would love to get my hands on a pre-Nasa science book.

 

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Really? But how could the Illuminati disclose FE truth after all those decades of globe-ism?
It would be great if it happened. The only way I can this come to pass if there is a world age reset. maybe a mudflood or other cataclysm.
DITRH interviewed a woman who was around 100 years old. She remembers learning that the world was flat back in the 1930s, I think. I would love to get my hands on a pre-Nasa science book.

Disclosure has always been the Trump card of the cabal. Pinning one side against the other, the whole left-right paradigm is their bag baby. Now that their days of cashing in on the globe-tard nonsense are nearly over, they'll jump that ship and switch sides while sacrificing a few of their foot soldiers to give the switch legitimacy. Look at the neo-cons of the George W timeframe. They started out as Trotsky-communist far lefties, and then one day they had a life changing epiphany and suddenly went conservative.

The cabal have no real ideology other than divide and conquer. They'll tell the truth when it suits their agenda. In this case, their agenda is world government, so it will suit them to change their cosmology tune. Since their plans involve inter-generational parameters, they have all the time and resources in the world to play their games, until their time is up. Well, their time is nearly up, so it's time for them to reach into their back pockets for the next game plan in their playbook: switching sides, whatever it takes to hold the reigns of power. Pushback central is coming to town soon enough, and this is how they will navigate that pushback to their ultimate advantage. What they've been trying to sell us on these last decades is merely the decoy.

 

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Tomorrow:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8qwZhYQfb8

I am proud of these folks for working together to put together a project of this caliber. I really am. However, I was a little disappointed in the overall in your face production / repetitive nature of the narration at times. It’s almost like they should try using an academic setting / institutional approach to show the round earth absurdities. Beat them using their own game board

In any event, can anybody explain the shadow that appears on the moon from the weather balloon - under any earth shape model - during this little priceless clip?

 

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I am proud of these folks for working together to put together a project of this caliber. I really am. However, I was a little disappointed in the overall in your face production / repetitive nature of the narration at times. It’s almost like they should try using an academic setting / institutional approach to show the round earth absurdities. Beat them using their own game board

In any event, can anybody explain the shadow that appears on the moon from the weather balloon - under any earth shape model - during this little priceless clip?

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To me I am looking at a balloon with something hanging below it, like a 'satellite.' I don't see the shadow on the moon, just two objects hanging in the sky. That being said, if the uppermost object is a giant helium balloon, you'd think a satellite hanging from it wouldn't be as big as the object we see below it. But who knows!

On another matter, I can't imagine that there will ever be any kind of FE reveal by TPTB. People are too invested in the current paradigm. It would mess with too many heads. It would just create chaos. To what end? Besides, people LOVE their spinning ball in space and don't want to ponder any other reality. They just can't go there, nor do they want to!

The only way the paradigm will change is when the old order is overturned, and a reset ensues. Only then is it possible, and is not guaranteed. There has to be a complete undermining of the existing paradigm before people will abandon ship and adopt a new set of beliefs. We're a long way from that happening. And besides, we're going to have helioexcentrics perennially trying to rebuild their luciferian world and squashing our perspective. Perhaps with the pendulum swinging, the ball earthers will be shown to be frauds and we will win out in the upcoming era. This will be a battle for all time to recover the memory of what the human realm is.

 

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The only way the paradigm will change is when the old order is overturned, and a reset ensues. Only then is it possible, and is not guaranteed. There has to be a complete undermining of the existing paradigm before people will abandon ship and adopt a new set of beliefs. We're a long way from that happening. And besides, we're going to have helioexcentrics perennially trying to rebuild their luciferian world and squashing our perspective. Perhaps with the pendulum swinging, the ball earthers will be shown to be frauds and we will win out in the upcoming era. This will be a battle for all time to recover the memory of what the human realm is.
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Agreed on all counts, and the way they will achieve this is to collapse the false narrative themselves, revealing the fraud on the one side in the form of disclosures from the freedom fighters and truthers (in their employ), while perpetuating the falsehood from the other side by the deceivers (in their employ), until the false narrative can no longer sustain itself because of the truth power of the disclosures. This is how the reset is guaranteed, because they themselves are masters of the art of reset, by always being behind both sides of the argument. To the unwitting public, this will appear to be a grassroots undertaking that concludes with a reset of understanding and awakening, while the real powers behind the scenes remain in control of the new narrative established.

 

[Starman]

The only way the paradigm will change is when the old order is overturned, and a reset ensues. Only then is it possible, and is not guaranteed. There has to be a complete undermining of the existing paradigm before people will abandon ship and adopt a new set of beliefs. We're a long way from that happening. And besides, we're going to have helioexcentrics perennially trying to rebuild their luciferian world and squashing our perspective. Perhaps with the pendulum swinging, the ball earthers will be shown to be frauds and we will win out in the upcoming era. This will be a battle for all time to recover the memory of what the human realm is.

Agreed on all counts, and the way they will achieve this is to collapse the false narrative themselves, revealing the fraud on the one side in the form of disclosures from the freedom fighters and truthers (in their employ), while perpetuating the falsehood from the other side by the deceivers (in their employ), until the false narrative can no longer sustain itself because of the truth power of the disclosures. This is how the reset is guaranteed, because they themselves are masters of the art of reset, by always being behind both sides of the argument. To the unwitting public, this will appear to be a grassroots undertaking that concludes with a reset of understanding and awakening, while the real powers behind the scenes remain in control of the new narrative established.
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I like to think that the arising of truth will happen naturally, in the absence of the elites ability to control the narrative. When the center no longer holds, there's no dominant narrative that is continually being reinforced. That is when green shoots appear and condense into a new outlook. In that way, I don't subscribe to the never ending iron grip management of TPTB even in crisis situations. They are losing control of the narrative and it will accelerate as more and more crises appear. They will no longer be on top of the situation. They're not going to be able to manage "both sides of the argument" or run their divide and conquer shenanigans. It's not that they won't try, but they'll be ineffective because enough people have seen through them.

In summary, I think it is important not to give TPTB some kind of all imposing stature. They "real powers behind the scenes" are very vulnerable at times of reset. A healthy revamping of our world view is quite possible ahead. If we have a real apocalypse this time, the frauds we have lived by will become evident. If NASA falters, can't get enough money to continue, people will start jumping ship all over the place. This will happen in every sector of society. When disorder rules the day, who knows how many secrets get revealed? I think it will be an organic process as the onion gets peeled away.

 

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Agreed on all counts, and the way they will achieve this is to collapse the false narrative themselves, revealing the fraud on the one side in the form of disclosures from the freedom fighters and truthers (in their employ), while perpetuating the falsehood from the other side by the deceivers (in their employ), until the false narrative can no longer sustain itself because of the truth power of the disclosures. This is how the reset is guaranteed, because they themselves are masters of the art of reset, by always being behind both sides of the argument. To the unwitting public, this will appear to be a grassroots undertaking that concludes with a reset of understanding and awakening, while the real powers behind the scenes remain in control of the new narrative established.

Starman response:
I like to think that the arising of truth will happen naturally, in the absence of the elites ability to control the narrative. When the center no longer holds, there's no dominant narrative that is continually being reinforced. That is when green shoots appear and condense into a new outlook. In that way, I don't subscribe to the never ending iron grip management of TPTB even in crisis situations. They are losing control of the narrative and it will accelerate as more and more crises appear. They will no longer be on top of the situation. They're not going to be able to manage "both sides of the argument" or run their divide and conquer shenanigans. It's not that they won't try, but they'll be ineffective because enough people have seen through them.

In summary, I think it is important not to give TPTB some kind of all imposing stature. They "real powers behind the scenes" are very vulnerable at times of reset. A healthy revamping of our world view is quite possible ahead. If we have a real apocalypse this time, the frauds we have lived by will become evident. If NASA falters, can't get enough money to continue, people will start jumping ship all over the place. This will happen in every sector of society. When disorder rules the day, who knows how many secrets get revealed? I think it will be an organic process as the onion gets peeled away.
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I share your optimism and outlook. By recognizing their plans, we have a real chance of transcending their traps. They are at their weakest right now and they grow weaker by the day. This is why they are scrambling to show a powerful front despite their vulnerability. Understanding their playbook is key to positioning ourselves strategically so as not to be fooled when they make their big moves with their operatives that appear to be our allies. This is the mistake we've made countless times in history: trusting their operatives. Pay close attention to the disclosure project. It is their last big play.