Flat Earth

[Citezenship]

This appears to be of the same or similar event and place, but nobody saying anything about their mini-submarine bouncing off the 'briny' substance. This video has eels going in and out of the mystery 'briny' substance, which you'd think wouldn't be possible if the substance was impenetrable.

So what's going on here with these two conflicting storylines? Who to believe? Did Blue Planet videos make up their own narrative, conveniently leaving out the bigger mystery of the rubbery material and the bouncing mini-submarine?

Or did Ewaranon's source create a hybrid story with real footage, but an actor who tells a fake story? Information like this can be warped into whatever you want, and the result in seeing both is to doubt all. And isn't that one of the primary ways to disillusion people in seeking the truth?

There was a rumour that the blue planet was filmed in a tank in Wales!

BTW, 'FE Core' missing in Citizenship's list is a copy of a list provided by Eric Dubay in his latest YT video, so is perhaps a commentary on them being monetized now.

This is correct, not "my" list.

 

[Sigian]

Can't ionized gases behave like water?

Of course, water is of course H and O, some of the lightest elements with the least amount of electrons to them. I don't see how different states of matter would differ on a flat earth vs globe, water still changes from a solid to liquid to a gas. Ionization just helps temporarily remove electrons and causes it to rise. If you take aluminum and apply a charge does it not seem to levitate? Ionizing the electrons making it temporarily able to rise into the air. Ever notice how the lighter elements have less electrons than the heavier ones? Sorry, maybe it's just me...if a globe earth and atmosphere within were spinning, wouldn't it cause a static buildup that could ionize particles? Even cause such things as lightning?

Kind of makes sense that a space shuttle would heat up going from the frictionless environment of space into an atmosphere with numerous particles that would cause friction. Then again, it would take a very large electromagnetic field to hold these particles within an atmosphere in the first place. Isn't electricity itself generated by an electromagnetic field taking electrons and then channeling them into everyday appliances? Though wouldn't that also create an abundance of protons and neutrons without a generated electron cloud? Sorry, it's late, just speculating. Could be wrong on all accounts, just putting it out there.

 

[FarewellAngelina]

Heavy water? Definitely heavy posts above.
And so many flat earth sites. I didn't see FE Core in Citizenship's list. The group has done outstanding work in the past, including this video which tracked the sun over one year. Their site is now monetized, which.....why?


View: https://youtu.be/nPlNcJ_IC5w



Can't ionized gases behave like water? When the rocket makes waves, it is pushing against noble gases which collect under the dome. The effect would therefore resemble the wake of a boat.
And maybe the pools of water in the ocean (which I thought were fresh and not saline) likewise consist of chemicals besides H2O.

The video presents a good case for the layers of gases under the dome and demonstrates how neon and argon can create daylight when exposed to electromagnetism from the sun.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q68vpnRtN64

Be wary of the FEcore bunch Grav . Generalizations that FEr's know little about astronomy make me wince . Globe head version of astronomy is complete make believe . It's nonsense that the sun rises due east 90 degrees and and sets due west 270 at equinox at all latitudes - it should according to globe theory ,that's all

Anybody can check that out at timeanddate website which is based on real and repeatable observation.

Take the March 20th equinox this year, that day when at all latitudes have sunrise at 90 degrees and sunset at 270 according to "science" . Here at 54N on that day the sun rose at 89 degrees and set at 271 degrees, not 90 and 270 as the solar system model predicts .

Here on 18th March it rose at 90 degrees and set at 270 - two days before , i.e equinox was two days earlier. I mean this is simple research .

Using depictions of degrees of latitude which have an equator at zero degrees is pure globe theory . Doesn't apply to flat earth - it's not reality. Flat earth latitudes should come from observation to the North star . Perhaps these people should start their work without the use of globe assumptions - do real science .

The flat earth torus field idea is not new. The south magnetic anomaly gets a mention but is shown as a pole . Since it is given by mainstream as located at 64S I don't see how that has been checked since we can't go there . I am of the opinion it doesn't exist .

The FEcore group seem to have an agenda . Some work they have done is good , but some is not , seems like smoke and mirrors to me.

Yeah I'm grumpy but these people annoy me sometimes .

 

[6079SmithW]

So what keeps the liquid, heavily saline or not, up in the air as an integral part of the firmament?

We bitch about gravity being a misnomer, what about the force that keeps this liquid in place? Yes, we are at the stage of idle speculation.

None of it makes any sense in any conventional way. There's way more proofs in the earth being flat or at least not being a sphere, but the dome is something all together different.

I too love the speedboat careening off the firmament and creating a nighttime phosphorescent wake. I took the meaning that the 'speedboat' was a rocket that they fired at the dome to see if they could penetrate it, but instead it just skipped along until it petered out.

If you look up superfluids, you can stir a cup of superfluid and it will never stop moving. It clings to its exterior container, despite 'gravity'

 

[grav]

The FEcore group seem to have an agenda . Some work they have done is good , but some is not , seems like smoke and mirrors to me.

Yeah I'm grumpy but these people annoy me so.

LOL I'm so glad you came here.
Listen to all voices. Trust no one.
I mostly trust Dubay. And Rothbard, who is Taboo Conspiracy. David weiss, aka DITRH.
Does that mean these truthers know the whole truth?
I prefer to not ruffle feathers too much. But sometimes I get grumpy when truthers drag God or some other Authority into their analyses.
RichieFromBoston, for example. He's a smart guy, knows his way around ct, cusses like a drunk sailor one minute, tells us the next minute to fall on our knees and pray to Yahweh.
Which I can't do. Never could. Will go to hell a'bouncin according to my Pentecostal in-laws. But I know I'm loaded up with good karma and fear no afterlife in an eternity of fire and suffering.

The FE Core has a new video with their laser tests. I have none of the computer and mechanical skills that the group takes for granted. I think they mean well when they run laser tests. Can they be any more boring and full of themselves?
The great majority of FE Youtubers are clueless and off-putting presenters. If an old hand like moi doesn't care to watch their movie-length videos, why would a globe bunny?

So, yeah, grumpiness is to be expected. An oral presentation should be short (5 to 10 minutes). Each video should address one (1) single topic: the dome, space vacuum, globe math, et al. All visuals should be captioned and provide stand-alone evidence.
No music, no excessive face time, minimal distractions, major editing.

And people in Hell want ice water. Ironic choice of metaphor, yes.
Many a truth is told in jest.

 

[FarewellAngelina]

Just watched the second video about the neon emissions. Really good stuff - thanks for that one Grav. When I worked nightshifts I was lucky enough to see the noctilucent cloud phenomena which occurs around the middle of the night. Both times were around the summer solstice . Thing about it is that half the night sky was blue both times. That yin-yang sun cast shape could be an explanation for that . This phenomena occurs around the summer solstice in the northern parts . It'll soon be the solstice so keep an eye out .

Respect your view on religions ,which are mainly cults ( I checked that spelling by the way ) - my view is we humans are spiritual beings , there are some evil people out there though.

I never seem to have time to watch the longer ones , short and to the point does it for me too and there are good ones out there..

 

[grav]

I try to thank Youtubers who make videos that teach new info. But one of the major problems with videos is that we can't retain all the information they cover. Memory fails. At least for me. I forget things I learned months or years ago. Like the video/s from 2017 which explained how noble gases in the atmosphere rise and collect under the dome. Neon and argon, especially, are ionized when exposed to the sun, thereby creating daylight. I used to know that, but only recalled it after re-watching the video.

As y'all know, I like memes. A good meme illustrates a proof or example of a law of physics or other evidence.
With this topic, we have slim pickins, only one or 2 that I could find. This meme, while instructive, assumes that readers understand dome theory.

Embedding images is not in my skill set with the SH attachment thingie.
But if I embed one on another site, it will copy and paste intact here.

You can teach an old dog new tricks, apparently.

Edit. I should always clarify that while I reject supernatural aspects of religion, I embrace the teachings of Jesus. I consider myself an atheistic Christian.

 

[Sigian]

I don't trust many Flat Earth videos. I've been trying to look at these pictures and I think some contradict different flat earth models. The moon is a reflection of the Earth? Are the sun and moon in the dome, above the firmament.

Agreed, there doesn't seem to be one whole FE model that FE people all agree with, I see so many scattered thoughts and ideas, different shapes between bowl shaped and just flat.

Maybe Grav can help out and post something more put together in a single post or stickey to this thread if possible? I'd like to know in FE theory how the moon/sun and stars work (shape etc.) If it's flat, the compass points towards the central point? If so are east and west kind of a fabrication since you fly in a circle from one continent to the next? From sea level how thick? If you were at a high enough point couldn't you see the sun all day and night or does it take a certain path?

Sorry, not calling you out, just figured you started this thread, figure might as well make it a good place for people to find even more info if they are interested.

 

[grav]

Sigian, please read previous posts which answer your questions about the electric battery concept of earth and the dome. Google is also your friend, or so they say.
I don't pretend to be a compendium of all things FE.

I also have no idea why you say there is no consensus about major FE cosmology.
I think researchers have made significant progress in our understanding of our freemason world. The movement started a mere 5 or 6 years ago.

Speaking of time, may I connect stolen history to stolen science?

Our world age may actually have begun around 1850.

Comets were once feared as agents of destruction. Years before I heard about flat earth, I followed GLP threads about Comet ISON. That was 2012, the alleged Mayan doomsday.

Modern science never talks about comets nowadays. That's how the Control System rolls. Always a new doomy thing to distract the sheeple.
But I haven't forgotten about comets as forces that upheavel the world.
"When beggars die, there are no comets seen.
The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes." Julius Caesar. 2.2.29-31.

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Comet Biela melted steel and granite as it burned down Chicago in 1871, as well as many thousands of square miles of the American Midwest.

 

[jo'bo]

Sigian, please read previous posts which answer your questions about the electric battery concept of earth and the dome. Google is also your friend, or so they say.
I don't pretend to be a compendium of all things FE.

I also have no idea why you say there is no consensus about major FE cosmology.
I think researchers have made significant progress in our understanding of our freemason world. The movement started a mere 5 or 6 years ago.

Speaking of time, may I connect stolen history to stolen science?

Our world age may actually have begun around 1850.

Comets were once feared as agents of destruction. Years before I heard about flat earth, I followed GLP threads about Comet ISON. That was 2012, the alleged Mayan doomsday.

Modern science never talks about comets nowadays. That's how the Control System rolls. Always a new doomy thing to distract the sheeple.
But I haven't forgotten about comets as forces that upheavel the world.
"When beggars die, there are no comets seen.
The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes." Julius Caesar. 2.2.29-31.

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Comet Biela melted steel and granite as it burned down Chicago in 1871, as well as many thousands of square miles of the American Midwest.

well to be fair, comet bella didnt melt steel, the fire did, if that's what happened

modern science talks a lot about comets, you must be listening in the wrong place, though this isnt usually comets as harbingers of doom or to signify some important death.


more that hitting them in whole or even small parts is a really bad outcome, there are people who dedicate there lives to spotting them, predicting them and tracking them apart from those who just want to know what they are made of and where dod they come from

I'm not opposed to the idea that the mid west fires may have been started by space stuff, it's a bit scarce on actual evidence that is so, but it's far from unlikely

that doesnt however mean that comets are magical just flipping dangerous

 

[Forrest]

well to be fair, comet bella didnt melt steel, the fire did, if that's what happened
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that doesnt however mean that comets are magical just flipping dangerous

The Great Chicago Fire broke out simultaneously across three states, attended by numerous electrical phenomena.

OTHERSCIENCE STORIES: Scapegoats and Sky Monsters and references therein-

As they put the fire out in one building, another one far behind the fire line would suddenly burst into flames for no good reason. “Strange, fantastic fires of blue, red, and green played along the cornices of buildings.” Granite, iron and glass were found afterwards, melted and fused together into peculiar shapes. Ghostly flames the color of burning whiskey rose up from basement floors, just before a building would ignite.

“The huge stone and brick structures melted before the fierceness of the flames as a snow-flake melts and disappears in water, and almost as quickly. Six-story buildings would take fire and disappear for ever from sight in five minutes by the watch. . .”

Witnesses in many places reported huge “balloons of fire” or “balls of fire”, descending from the sky. When they touched the ground, they annihilated everything, sometimes with a flash of light. One said “The sky, which had been dark, burst into clouds of flame.” A rain of dust was reported in some places, hot sand or gravel in other places. Hundreds of tons of pig iron stacked in a yard by the river, two hundred feet from the nearest building, “melted and run, and is now in one large and nearly solid mass.”

“One peculiar thing I remember about the street car rails… Downtown… the rails had been pulled up… from the road bed and in some instances the ends were curled up several feet in the air.“

 

[mutley7]

Some pertinent information found here Comet Biela and Mrs. O’Leary’s Cow | Cassiopaea

 

[grav]

I think the author of the Mrs. Leary's Cow article was Laura Knight-Jadczyk.
I also have her book, The Apocalypse: Comets, Asteroids and Cyclical Catastrophes.

I found her after my second or third reading of Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision.
Flat Earth and Alternate History/Tartaria and Sim World Reality added more dimensions to the mystery of comets as agents of resets.

Flat Earth undoubtedly offers the best discipline to learn what comets really are, electric phenomena in the dome. Short circuits in a n electric battery.
These guys came from conventional astronomy but ended up with a depressing conclusion, which modern science hides.

Clube and Napier: Coherent Catastrophism


In 1982, two British astronomers, S. V. M (Victor) Clube and William Napier, published a book entitled The Cosmic Serpent. Clube and Napier suggested that the outer planets occasionally divert giant comets (more than 50 kilometers in diameter) into the inner solar system into short-period orbits. Debris from the resultant disintegration of these giant comets can adversely affect the environment of the Earth. Dusting can block sunlight, resulting in globally cooler conditions. Impact events in the super-Tunguska class may result in not only heavy localized destruction but also the occasional "impact winter" or dust veil with global climatological effects.

 

[sandokhan]

It's not comets you have to worry about yet, but galactic cosmic ray waves. Comets (comet Encke) come later.

Flat earth theory allows for the precise calculation of the end of the present geological/astronomical world age: since the Sun is very small in FES, and its orbit is bounded by the two Tropics, and we are dealing with a 1.5 km/year westward precessional shift, you have all the ingredients needed to calculate this date.

 

[grav]

It's not comets you have to worry about yet, but galactic cosmic ray waves. Comets (comet Encke) come later.

Flat earth theory allows for the precise calculation of the end of the present geological/astronomical world age: since the Sun is very small in FES, and its orbit is bounded by the two Tropics, and we are dealing with a 1.5 km/year westward precessional shift, you have all the ingredients needed to calculate this date.

Long time, no see, Sandokhan. Glad to see you back.

Please expand on your galactic cosmic ray waves and calculation of the end of the world age.

I tend to see it as a clockwork mechanism with an entropy switch. kind of like built-in obsolescence.

 

[Citezenship]

I tend to see it as a clockwork mechanism with an entropy switch. kind of like built-in obsolescence.

Haha, I like that!

 

[Citezenship]

1997,


View: https://youtu.be/tN8LapeK4bs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Is_Flat_(song)

 

[grav]

On another forum someone introduced electricity into FE.

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"I should post a few links about the effects of new energy upon the human body and mind, when it was introduced in the past such as electricity and radio waves. People died from shock. Today, we are awash in an atmospheric ocean of god knows what forms of new and exotic forms of electromagnetic energy such as scalar. And don't forget, HAARP isn't currently on the tip of everyone's tongue, but it should be. We are getting hornswaggled once again."

That would be a great thread. I'm reading The Invisible Rainbow (Arthur Firstenberg) which documents the harmful effects on humans and the environment since AC electricity was installed.
Like astronomy, Covid, politics, Israel vs Palestine, and everything else in the garbage dump of human perception, the truth is a jumble of non-facts and Tinker Bell fantasies.

I am, for example, one of those people who don't sleep well during a full moon.
Why?
The moon is a plasma phenomenon in the dome, which functions as a solid state mechanism of the earth battery.
Something like a semi-conductor of a computer module. We are inextricably connected to everything else in the aether of the Electric Universe. When there is increased solar activity (sunspots according to Firstenberg), humans and animals experience dis-eases. Perhaps we need to look at the Schumann Resonance and the electromagnetic spectrum of the atmosphere. Too bad so much of our vocabulary has 'sphere in suffixes.

Regarding satellites and spaceships, temperatures make it impossible for such nonsensical devices that would perish in 2000°C.

 

[Starman]

Ewaranon back for round two. He just put out 7 videos.

The Lost History of Flat Earth. Volume 1 of 7: "Buried in Plain Sight"


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmWPH7tpf-8

 

[fega72]

Ewaranon back for round two. He just put out 7 videos.

The Lost History of Flat Earth. Volume 1 of 7: "Buried in Plain Sight"


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmWPH7tpf-8

I like this video but only can watch it with the 1.25x speed (or above) otherwise the over dramatised voice drive me crazy