SH Archive Is "Flat Earth" a PsyOp?

[Seven823One]

So basically our plane is impossible to view from the side - we might be part of something much larger but we are limited by the magnetic field and the light from the sun - maybe it curves up or down at some distance from the equinoctial . We are not allowed to visit either pole.

We do not have to leave the Earth in body ourselves to be able to see it from sideways or bottoms. I am talking that hypothetically, the Earth and planets in general, being 3-Dimensional objects, there will be a side to them. You are saying that there is a force that prevents us to travel there...

Shouldn't you still be able to see these prohibited to visit areas of the Earth from this orbiter? (source: India's Chandrayaan-2 Mission Will Take 7 Weeks to Reach the Moon — Here's Why)

 

[alltheleaves]

Shouldn't you still be able to see these prohibited to visit areas of the Earth from this orbiter? (source: India's Chandrayaan-2 Mission Will Take 7 Weeks to Reach the Moon — Here's Why)

Maybe that is why orbits are equatorial?

Why not sometimes orbit north to south and around both poles?

That plus cgi.

 

[Udjat]

I just started an Astronomy class and the Flat Earth Theory was put down right away. We were told that there is no flat earth.
I am not saying I subscribe to the Flat Earth Theory, nor do I really care if it is flat or not, but I just wanted to point out that this theory is shut down as soon as possible in the academic world.

 

[alltheleaves]

I just started an Astronomy class and the Flat Earth Theory was put down right away. We were told that there is no flat earth.
I am not saying I subscribe to the Flat Earth Theory, nor do I really care if it is flat or not, but I just wanted to point out that this theory is shut down as soon as possible in the academic world.

No kidding. There's a globe in every classroom.

 

[FarewellAngelina]

And in many TV programmes, especially popular police drama series -detectives offices mainly. I think the record so far ( how interesting my life must be) is three in one small office in an episode of Shakespeare and Hathaway.

I know, that's why they're called programmes.

 

[TH Dialectic]

I just started an Astronomy class and the Flat Earth Theory was put down right away. We were told that there is no flat earth.
I am not saying I subscribe to the Flat Earth Theory, nor do I really care if it is flat or not, but I just wanted to point out that this theory is shut down as soon as possible in the academic world.

You should care if it is flat or not.

Imagine we are in a chess tournament and you are playing a game of checkers, someone comes and tells you, actually you should be playing chess you wouldn't say, "I'm not bothered I'm playing checkers" as you wouldn't get the most out of the chess tournament, you would be loosing straight away.

We have to establish the playing field before establishing the rules of the game, that should be a rudimentary part of existence IMHO.

TH

 

[TheHangedMan]

I just started an Astronomy class and the Flat Earth Theory was put down right away. We were told that there is no flat earth.
I am not saying I subscribe to the Flat Earth Theory, nor do I really care if it is flat or not, but I just wanted to point out that this theory is shut down as soon as possible in the academic world.

Absolutely nothing personal here Udjat ,but I really care ,a lot ,that the world is flat & not what we are told it is .Where we are is as fundamental as it gets & the realisation of the truth creates a wholen new paradigm. You are never the same again .
This 8 min. Vid. makes some valid points I reckon .

View: https://youtu.be/BjV02VwfTwA?si=NJW4zVibza-3lIFO

 

[Udjat]

You should care if it is flat or not.

Imagine we are in a chess tournament and you are playing a game of checkers, someone comes and tells you, actually you should be playing chess you wouldn't say, "I'm not bothered I'm playing checkers" as you wouldn't get the most out of the chess tournament, you would be loosing straight away.

We have to establish the playing field before establishing the rules of the game, that should be a rudimentary part of existence IMHO.

TH

I understand where you are coming from, and thank you for that. Be well!

Absolutely nothing personal here Udjat ,but I really care ,a lot ,that the world is flat & not what we are told it is .Where we are is as fundamental as it gets & the realisation of the truth creates a wholen new paradigm. You are never the same again .
This 8 min. Vid. makes some valid points I reckon .

View: https://youtu.be/BjV02VwfTwA?si=NJW4zVibza-3lIFO

I hear what you are saying and I have believed I have been lied to many, many years ago with most everything. The big bang theory is false, because they say that the scientists can look back to the big bang event, when the universe started, but I don't believe that because, how do they know that that is the beginning of the universe. I thought the universe was infinite? How would one know the middle, end, or start of something if it were infinite? That for me is the smoking gun, not so much the flat earth thing.

 

[lancsDavid]

is flat earth a psy-op? having seen isle of man from southport beach UK at a distance of 60+ miles, which is too far to see on a ball, i'm with otl2021 that it's the ball that's the psy-op..... but the question of whether it's a psy-op is a bit of a non-question..... those who think they've seen through the ball have their take whilst those who don't have theirs & little generally comes from a discussion.... it seems the ball earth psy-op / big lie / spell - if that's what it is - is simply too big to break with words... you need to use your own eyes to dispel ot or it's not going anywhere... such is perhaps the accumulated "resonance power" of a lifetime of false doctrine.... but why do it? hiding the true nature of the realm - if this is what's going on - is a massive risk so why take it? all i can imagine is it tells us something the controllers don't want us to know.... which is what? this video explains better than i can..... it's called "Brian Austin Lambert - Electromagnetic Changeover Theory"..... & is a rather fascinating god-in-angry-plasma-mode end times scenario on a flat earth..... highly recommended....

 

[Tetromino]

I used to believe in heliocentrism and was very interested in space until I started to search for real photographs of satellites in space and couldn't find anything but CGI renditions and artist's impressions. One of the questions I used to ask when I was a child was "Why can't I feel it moving?" and the answer is apparently to do with gravity but when you think about the question again when you are older you realise something doesn't make sense. If gravity is strong enough to hold the atmosphere against the vacuum of space (this is physically impossible without a solid barrier) then shouldn't it be pulling me to the floor? The earth may be flat or concave but it's definitely not a spinning ball travelling through space.

Even if you believe in the solar system theory you can't say this makes any sense:

If the sun is travelling through space then why are the planets still revolving around it? At the speed the sun is supposedly travelling they should have all been left behind.

 

[FarewellAngelina]

We are all indoctrinated into the heliocentric religion in infancy , the biggest psyop carried out by those seeking to control us. If left to grow naturally we would realise that we sense the earth is stationary and see the natural order of our planar realm with the rotating heavens above.

It is the hardest thing to overcome that conditioning since we are constantly bombarded with space ball nonsense . It all has becomes a tragic comedy . Notice the amount of children being involved, including my grand children .

I do think the idiocracy is struggling to contain things now, severe censorship and ridicule being their main weapon since there is not one piece of scientific proof of space ball earth - common sense will prevail in the end , God willing.

 

[Udjat]

You want to talk about insane? Well have I got one for you! I am in an Astronomy class in college ( I have not been in school for over thirteen years), and the teacher said, "why haven't we heard about the ozone layer in a while", and most of the young students didn't even seem to know what he was talking about. But what I could not believe was that he said that the "ozone layer" has repaired itself and that is why we have not heard anything recently about it. ????? Who are these people??? When I was younger, a lot younger, they used the ozone layer to frighten us, telling us that the kids in Australia can't go outside without a big hat on because they will get cancer from just a few minutes because the ozone layer was so diminished.
The only reason why they get away with this shit is because people are afraid, especially when something is so big out of human control, then people freak out. I for one find this part of the USA MKUltra mission. I can tell you many instances where they used this kind of fear mongering to impeded any one going against the narrative.
It is hard for me to be in this class sometimes, and I just want to get out with a passing grade and move on. It is hard to go to school, when all I see is indoctrination of our youths minds.

I was also told that the Dogon tribe would never know about Sirius star B that one can not see with the naked eye. My teacher even included a statement about racism with this notion of the Dogon tribe. I just let it go because I realized that this fight is bigger than I have ever known.

I feel bad for the youth of this world, but every young person I come into contact with at this institution I remind them to question everything even if it is your "professor". DO NOT CONFORM!!!!

Oh that reminds me of the band Corrosion of Conformity.

 

[alltheleaves]

The psychological operation bit is subtly ingrained into the mind from infanthood - it's the father of all sigh-ops. Any idea which does not follow the given narrative becomes a conspiracy and is lumped beneath the FE banner. Easy way to control the population - which in reality controls its itself since it has been conditioned to do so.

It's fun sometimes to watch peoples reaction when I mention the plain that we live upon, as surveyed. Or the celestial dome - the correct scientific term that describes what we see when we look up. Fills me with despair at times since most folk cant be arsed looking for themselves.

Old pre-decimal survey books give quotes for areas of 100sq mls - a tad more than 250sq km .


Farewell, please explain this in context? And maybe a survey book example. Thanks.

Have a nice flat motionless evening.

 

[Just]

You want to talk about insane? Well have I got one for you! I am in an Astronomy class in college ( I have not been in school for over thirteen years), and the teacher said, "why haven't we heard about the ozone layer in a while", and most of the young students didn't even seem to know what he was talking about. But what I could not believe was that he said that the "ozone layer" has repaired itself and that is why we have not heard anything recently about it. ????? Who are these people??? When I was younger, a lot younger, they used the ozone layer to frighten us, telling us that the kids in Australia can't go outside without a big hat on because they will get cancer from just a few minutes because the ozone layer was so diminished.
The only reason why they get away with this shit is because people are afraid, especially when something is so big out of human control, then people freak out. I for one find this part of the USA MKUltra mission. I can tell you many instances where they used this kind of fear mongering to impeded any one going against the narrative.
It is hard for me to be in this class sometimes, and I just want to get out with a passing grade and move on. It is hard to go to school, when all I see is indoctrination of our youths minds.

I was also told that the Dogon tribe would never know about Sirius star B that one can not see with the naked eye. My teacher even included a statement about racism with this notion of the Dogon tribe. I just let it go because I realized that this fight is bigger than I have ever known.

I feel bad for the youth of this world, but every young person I come into contact with at this institution I remind them to question everything even if it is your "professor". DO NOT CONFORM!!!!

Oh that reminds me of the band Corrosion of Conformity.

You say ‘The only reason they get away with this shit is that people are afraid’. I would add that another reason they get away with this shit is that people choose to forget. Try asking people about the scamdemic: ‘Do you remember the rule of six / being asked to imagine a dead body lying on the floor to know what 6 feet looks like when socially distancing? Do you remember that people weren’t allowed to sing happy birthday because of the risk of spitting with all the ‘p’s and ‘b’s in the song? That they offered people kebabs / a £5 shopping voucher / a brothel voucher for people opting to have a jab? That William Shakespeare was the first man in the UK to have a jab (and that Matt Hancock laughed when he heard that and had to pretend he was crying)? They look in disbelief as if they don’t know what you’re talking about. The insanity in the MSM back in 2020 was off the scale but here we are, just 3 years later, and it’s largely forgotten by the vaccinated. I seriously wonder whether the people who complied are real or are non player characters because they don’t seem to be processing recent events in a normal way. I know this is off topic but I just want to point out the general lack of rational thought and questioning minds in the so-called developed world. Human civilisation? It would be a good idea.

 

[josenoway]

One argument against FE beeing as a psy-op is the Tartaria phenomena.
Tartaria is gaining huge audience in similar way. But it seems like a major contributor to this idea was Fomenko. And he imo didnt went that route to create a psyop.
However, both FE and "Hidden Tartaria" is distracting in my opinion.
But its very possible both phenomena is selfsustaining without any psyop involved.

http://mileswmathis.com/tartar.pdf

 

[FarewellAngelina]

Old pre-decimal survey books give quotes for areas of 100sq mls - a tad more than 250sq km .


Farewell, please explain this in context? And maybe a survey book example. Thanks.

Have a nice flat motionless evening.

Sorry for the delay. I now have time . So...

Elementary Survey Arthur Higgins Lovat 1947 (PDF Library) | PDF | Surveying | Trigonometry

If you scroll down to page 5 which is the introduction you will find a short description detailing the difference between Geodetical and Plane Survey.

It is stated that in geodesy the earth is considered a sphere. That's an honest statement - it does not say the earth is a sphere.

Also stated is the fact that only surveys over 100sq.mls area are considered as geodetic survey i.e. spherical trig is applied to plane survey results to enable these to be mapped onto a globe , the inference being that there is no curvature found that cannot be accounted for within the limits of observational error.

It seems that 80 feet or so of expected curvature over a circle of diameter 10 miles is absent.

My own copy of that book is an earlier edition - but states the same.

That arbitrary (to me) limit still applies as in this 2020 exam paper

[Solved] The curvature of the earth is taken into consideration if th

Even wiki gives a mention - scroll down to the section " Plane v Geodetic Survey"

Surveying - Wikipedia

That page was last edited 4th October this year. When I first looked at this years ago I recall that the limit for plane survey was given as 100sq.km . Maybe I'm mistaken but at least it's in there now .

I've also read through a reprint of "Zetetic Astronomy" by Rowbotham .He writes in there that the during the building of Britains' canal and rail networks the government had to instruct it's civil engineers not to apply any curvature calcs to their designs and just use horizontal datum lines .

I will hopefully check that out if possible at some point , but the detail is a bit lacking.

Hopefully I've been able to clarify that a bit without too much rambling.

 

[alltheleaves]

Sorry for the delay. I now have time . So...

Elementary Survey Arthur Higgins Lovat 1947 (PDF Library) | PDF | Surveying | Trigonometry

If you scroll down to page 5 which is the introduction you will find a short description detailing the difference between Geodetical and Plane Survey.

It is stated that in geodesy the earth is considered a sphere. That's an honest statement - it does not say the earth is a sphere.

Also stated is the fact that only surveys over 100sq.mls area are considered as geodetic survey i.e. spherical trig is applied to plane survey results to enable these to be mapped onto a globe , the inference being that there is no curvature found that cannot be accounted for within the limits of observational error.

It seems that 80 feet or so of expected curvature over a circle of diameter 10 miles is absent.

My own copy of that book is an earlier edition - but states the same.

That arbitrary (to me) limit still applies as in this 2020 exam paper

[Solved] The curvature of the earth is taken into consideration if th

Even wiki gives a mention - scroll down to the section " Plane v Geodetic Survey"

Surveying - Wikipedia

That page was last edited 4th October this year. When I first looked at this years ago I recall that the limit for plane survey was given as 100sq.km . Maybe I'm mistaken but at least it's in there now .

I've also read through a reprint of "Zetetic Astronomy" by Rowbotham .He writes in there that the during the building of Britains' canal and rail networks the government had to instruct it's civil engineers not to apply any curvature calcs to their designs and just use horizontal datum lines .

I will hopefully check that out if possible at some point , but the detail is a bit lacking.

Hopefully I've been able to clarify that a bit without too much rambling.

Thanks.

Indeed...I've only felt the erth move a few times... *_*.

 

[Alexi]

There are well over 200 verses in the Bible that support a flat stationery earth.
Here's a couple of my favorites;

Psalms 104:5
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

Job 38:4
He set the earth on its foundations, never to be moved. ... when He set a boundary for the sea, so that the waters would not surpass His command

 

[Alexi]

Is there more land beyond the ringed Antarctica ice wall ? Extra Terrestrial...........


View: https://youtu.be/c8fHR6NuTJw?si=4fz2Vi64OWpt738g

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[Turner]

Why does anyone who believes they know the shape of the earth need to defend that belief by attacking anyone who believes otherwise?

Is the belief that shaky it cannot stand on its own merits?
This thread like all the others on earth shape descend into the same arguments that never get resolved which cannot be good for stolen history the forum.

If anyone has any experiential evidence and I do not mean maths or theories ancient or modern I mean personal experience which shows the earth they and I walk in has a shape to it post it to put an end to this nonsense.
If you don't then go find some and stop boring the arse off people.

All of this anger, scientist’s pride and general collective need to ‘believe in the contemporary scientific narrative’ is related to identity. The collective belief thing is actually a good thing as a stable society is reliant upon good mores i.e. an agreed shared set of moral standard, but when the story behind those mores is basically insane, that is we’re nihilistic monkeys on a chaotic spinning ball, it doesn’t help.

Identity is a very elusive concept to grasp and is not elucidated by mathematical equations and tactile measurable phenomena but once you begin to understand just how fundemental a persons psyche, their ability to think, discern and solve mathematical and measurable queries is upon a stable personal identity of the knowledge bearer and society as a whole, then the current chaotic state of modern knowledge is a little easier to forgive. It’s very important to understand just how crucial identity is, know this, when a human, sometimes soldier, enters PTSD their world literally crumbles to the floor sometines never to recover and what is happening is their psychological identity is shattering.

Basically modern people don’t have boundaries, they don’t have tribes, they’re unstable social environment, extreme isolation and finacialised relationships, dependence on strangers (corporations) for everything have created an existential trauma and their identity cannot form properly, the psychological structure of their h7man psyche is in turmoil. This is what oligarchies produce. Now its a scale and some people can function, some cannot and many need stimulants i.e. drugs, consumeristic content etc. to stabilise their identity.

Science becomes a rock in this nightmare sea where you attempt to restructure the psyche-identity around the proofs of math and sums, needing some fixed concept and you end up mostly imagining a psychosis to replicate stability, this is the modern scientific understanding and for evil or good some use it to their advantage. There are many scientists who have in one way or another openly revealed this. They’re not on tv or newspapers. Wolfgang Smith - Physicist, Alexander Unzicker - Physicist, Harold Hillman - Biologist, Stefan Lanka - Biologist, Wolf-Ekkard Lonnig - Biologist.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lsf3gRrfOM


“A scientific hypothesis should be potentially falsifiable..however the idea of slow evolution by infinitessimally small inherited variations has been falsified by findings of paleontology..as well [as] genetics. Yet its adherents principally reject any scientific proof against neo-darwinism, so that, in fact their theory has become a non-falsifiable worldview, to which people stick in spite of all contrary evidence” Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig