SH Archive Possible books, weapons and musical instruments of the Giants

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Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2018-07-24 00:58:46
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Lol you guys. If I could, I would join too!


That's a funny exaggeration of katanas, a popular myth that unfortunately still continues. Katanas were no better or worse than any other swords of the era. They were used in the context of Japanese warfare as a secondary weapon or a self-defense weapon. Nothing special about it.

As for bigger humans, that's kind of contradicting since we have normal size humans as well. I'd think back then, the electromagnetic influence and positions of the planets (if you are to follow the Electric Universe theory) made a lower gravity and better growth environment for giant people. The moon I believe is captured, but from the days of Earth's creation by the universe (or expulsion again with the EU theory). However, a cataclysm happened and only the smaller humans like us survived.

I like that there were also giant women drawn (I've seen the pictures already). Not many works that show giant females since we always think of giants as hulking and dangerous man-beasts.

Dunno about that. Seems Japan had some steel technology ahead of its time. Much like the viking ulfbrecht swords were ahead of their time. Researching it however, leads to a lot of dead ends. I was convinced the ulfbrecht sword tech came from the Vatican by a show on the history channel.

 

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Username: PrincepAugus
Date: 2018-07-24 01:01:20
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Dunno about that. Seems Japan had some steel technology ahead of its time. Much like the viking ulfbrecht swords were ahead of their time. Researching it however, leads to a lot of dead ends. I was convinced the ulfbrecht sword tech came from the Vatican by a show on the history channel.

I research historical weapons and such, and yes, katanas are made with high quality steel. Though it's not like it's a godsend. By the time the katanas were invented, we have longswords and such in Europe, Middle East, and other parts of Asia. They all have high quality steel, and they should, since they are needed as effective weapons.

 

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Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2018-07-24 01:31:41
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I research historical weapons and such, and yes, katanas are made with high quality steel. Though it's not like it's a godsend. By the time the katanas were invented, we have longswords and such in Europe, Middle East, and other parts of Asia. They all have high quality steel, and they should, since they are needed as effective weapons.

Yes, but there is steel and there is steel. Tested ulfbrecht swords had a steel on par with the best of today. Of course there are less than 10 available for study, and there were many contemporary fakes.
Much like the Viking stories of their far superior swords were considered myth prior to their discovery, Japan may have had a similar tale.

 

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Username: PrincepAugus
Date: 2018-07-24 01:39:44
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I haven't really given dates to them, so that's still stands contested. Though not much of sword quality other than Youtube videos and metallurgy charts.

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-27 17:48:08
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Username: PrincepAugus
Date: 2018-07-27 21:39:08
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Given the screenshot, looks fake though.

 

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Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2018-07-28 00:49:29
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View attachment 4948

Looks Fake As Frig.



ETA If real, and it's so easy to clean, pick up, and hold, they can cut me off a wee hunk no biggie. I'll pay shipping.

 

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Username: PrincepAugus
Date: 2018-07-28 03:37:15
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We should have like a thread all about fake stuff, so we don't get carried away hahaha.

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-28 10:19:48
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Lols. That’s exactly what happens when posting on a small screen phone and in the sun. A good lesson for me. Will keep this one for our own fake history

 

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Username: Hardy
Date: 2018-07-28 18:41:46
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I also find this telescope suspicious but I'm not sure.It's from the great Exhibition in London 1851.
It looks like an oversized Table Telescope.
And if it's not a device from Giants why is there not a scaffold for let People see through.
It stands there like a curiosity which was found in a Giants house.

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-28 18:44:47
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I like the size and location of the control knobs. Nice find Hardy.

Would be interesting to see what was on display at this 1851 exhibition.

Edit: need to look into this event. These handles are definitely for some other size humans.

 

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Username: Hardy
Date: 2018-07-28 20:58:13
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Very interesting this London exibition with the 'Crystal palace'....


but there is something( Giant?) going on with these old telecopes in general.
This one is from the Great Industrial Exposition of Berlin.
The 'Himmelskanone' sky cannon still exists (the rest of course is gone) and it is surprisingly still the biggest lens telescope of the world, they say.
But the still existing one does not look like the one on the postcard.
The whole scenerie with the building looks strange.

And then we have the Great Paris Exhibition Telescope of 1900. First i thougt what's that?
A Collider?Then i saw the Illustration and i found it even better than CERN.
They projected the view from the sky straight into a theatre/Cinema?What the hell is this?

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-28 21:04:47
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That’s some telescope. You are onto something here Hardy.

 

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Username: PrincepAugus
Date: 2018-07-28 21:08:35
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Given refracting telescopes' sizes and usage, I don't see how the two form the Great Exposition in London or Berlin are out of place, but the Great Paris Exposition Telescope likes exactly like a linear particle accelerator! In fact, I can't find any images showing the end of the "telescope" nor that big contraption in front of it.

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-29 00:40:06
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Interesting that there are like two pictures of this device only. @Hardy, lol, you should have started a separate thread for this thing.

And the same story continues.

The company which had organized in 1886 to build the telescope declared bankruptcy after the Expo, and the telescope was put up for auction in 1909. No buyer was found and eventually the components were scrapped.

Since it was built for exhibit purposes within a large metropolis, and its design made it difficult to aim at astronomical objects, it was not suited for scientific use. When the year-long exposition was over, its builders were unable to sell it. It was ultimately broken up for scrap;

 

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Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-07-30 21:52:17
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wow!

 

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Username: RowOfEleven
Date: 2018-08-01 21:33:30
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To be frank, I immediately came to comment about the Octobass and that you are wildy off base for suggesting the origin be tied to giants... but then I realized that everything I know about the Octobass is from the incestuous circle of academia (I hold degrees in this field). I looked into this further and found that this truly is a mysterious instrument in it's origin, not even to speak of its odd and mysterious design!

I was taught that the Octobass is a young instrument (invented in 1850) and was never designed to be played without it's elaborate pedals, hammers/frets, and pedestal. What we are told in music academia is that it was a thought experiment first and secondarily an experiment in creating a sound that would be felt by the orchestra and audience. And it is felt, the lowest string is below the range of human hearing, tuned to 15Hz. The string instead sounds rhythmic, as we can only hear the overtones above the fundamental (regular/main) pitch of the string. When it's played, you can feel it in your chest. (I had the honor of being in person with one of these while a musicologist played it.)

It really is a head scratcher, the instrument is beyond odd and no one (minus very recent composers) have written for it. Heck, there are only 7 in the world. It's been said that Hector Berlioz wrote for it in the mid-late 19th century, but after an exhaustive search I was unable to find anything written for or about it beyond a mere mention in Berlioz' Orchestration Treatsie, written in 1848.

The luthier who crafted it was a very famous violin maker from Paris, Jean Baptiste Vuillaume. He made instruments that are still coveted to this day by many musicians. Without the login info for my old uni, I am unable to delve into this much further that I already have, but it doesn't seem completely nonsensical that Vuillaume would craft such an instrument... just unlikely. Especially considering the lack of information on the topic of this weirdo bass.

Now, about those giant books... What I was taught was that the time and resources put into making a book in these times was high enough, such that they found it easier to make books rather large and with big print, so that a group of people could read them at one time.
This idea is specifically about very old notated gregorian chant music. In this one utilization, as sheet music, I can totally see the explanation they gave being feasible. A choir would read it all at once.

Just an aside, these (gregorian chant) books would have been made in the 16th century according to standard music history. The Uni I went to had one in their main library. I can confirm that they are very very big in person!

 

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Date: 2018-08-02 00:18:25
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The giant katana is interesting because the Japanese have a trend towards 'smallness' and efficiency in general within their culture. For that reason I doubt it was crafted just for extravagance. They extract the iron ore from river sand for chrissakes - it's way too much work to commit that much steel just for novelty. I wonder if it shows any signs of use in battle? The sharpest normal-sized katanas of history swung by a normal-sized samurai could slice through 5 human torsos in a single stroke. Imagine what the monster pictured above could do?

It's obvious from the plethora of evidence the truth could be hanging over people's heads and they'd choose to ignore/forget/deny it. For each and every discovery of giant skeletons there's at least one person who chooses to ignore/forget/deny the truth of our distant past. In reality, there's a lot more people involved and each one is probably just told to forget about it by someone in a position of authority. That's why it's so hard to present alternative points of view. Learning is hard, but it's easy to forget. It's so easy that we're used to doing by accident.

Personally, I think it was humanity in general that was larger in the past - not a separate 'race', and I believe there was a low-gravity condition that allowed capillary action to pump fluids to such height - so everything alive was bigger - all at the same time. Then the moon arrived and captured/was caught by Earth's gravity. Earth's rotation slowed down, gravity increased, our bones couldn't support all the 'new weight' so humanity 'evolved' 'adapted' or whatever to the new environmental conditions by 'growing' smaller with each generation until we finally reached an equilibrium. I know this theory raises more questions than it answers, and I look forward to exploring them in other threads.

I was under impression that the original Samurai were not Japanese but from the survivors of Hyperborea.

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-08-02 00:31:34
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I was under impression that the original Samurai were not Japanese but from the survivors of Hyperborea.

They were Ainu people. Honestly, I am at a loss as to when today’s japanese people even showed up in Iapon. It appears like may be 300-400 years ago.

Everything is do screwed up historically, isn’t it?

But this Ainu issue is for a separate thread please.

Additionally GIANT sources: Giant Skeletons Plus

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Abraham Lincoln’s speech excerpt.

 

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Username: Juanchi
Date: 2018-08-27 11:57:38
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Father Crespi had some giant related items in his collection, some helmets, a giant chone and a guitar( or a model of one). I guess you all knows about the Tayos Cave, it's said that many of the fahter Crespi items proceed from the cave system, were given to him by the Shuaras, the "guardians" of the cave system.