SH Archive World population: where are the missing trillions of people?

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Username: dianag
Date: 2019-01-15 16:12:01
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In the Bible when they do a count of population they number men who are of fighting age between 20 and 50. Women and children are not counted. The Bible also tells of wars where people are killed in mass. One was 185,000 in just one night. God was protecting a city and caused the enemy to have a delusion and they killed themselves.

Then think about the first Passover when Israel left Pharaoh. The first born male of every Egyptian was killed. No telling how many males that was.

The non-Jewish population sacrificed their children, the Romans took the children they didn't want out into the hills or fields and left them to be eaten by wild animals. I'm sure there were many other populations who had differing ritualistic activities for killing. The Canaanites and other nations were cannibalistic people. Recorded since the 1973 an estimated 17.52 billion babies have been aborted worldwide.

The Black Death was huge and estimates range from 75-200 million deaths. I think this occurred more than once.

Other pandemics, drought, and extreme cold also took huge numbers of lives.

There are probably many other cataclysmic earth events that decimated populations like tsunami, earth quake, volcanoes, floods, tornadoes, and hurricanes. Look at what has happened in the last 10 years.

It is sad to think of all those lives lost. What would the world be like today and what would our population be in numbers if these things didn't happen?
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-01-16 02:28:40
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Which just emphasizes that our current civilization just
I will be creating a separate thread to address this concern.
 
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Username: dianag
Date: 2019-01-17 16:20:46
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A company I worked for in the 80's isolated the Bacillus bacteria a naturally formed bacteria which breaks down all organic waste and then grew it in tanks. They then concentrated and sold it in a liquid or powder form to waste treatment facilities who use it to eat organic waste (poop and paper). It could easily eat bones and flesh given time.

This same product is used as a pet waste elimination product called Out or Outright. It can also be used to remove the smell of skunk spray, urine, etc.
 
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Username: Jim Duyer
Date: 2019-01-17 18:39:55
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Sounds like a serial killer's dream product.
 
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Username: jd755
Date: 2019-01-21 22:39:19
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Geoff lawton of permaculture fame once put a dead wallaby in the middle of a 'hot compost method' compost heap and eighteen days later all trace of it had vanished. He also composted a cow in the same way that vanished just as completely but annot recall if that to was in eighteen days or more.
 
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2019-01-22 08:30:23
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China just reported 2 million new births less than last year, even though families can now have more than one child. Down to around 15 million births.

Obviously they have created a big working slave middle class that is now centered around the idea of financially supporting a single child max. Can't magically increase children if the families don't have the money or the space. China seems to be a dying nation now, too. Officially it will only take 1-3 years for that to happen. Drop in birth rate from 12.43 per thousand to 10.94 is serious. Death rate has been going up from 6.8 to 7.8 during the last decade.

Only Africa and India left with population increase basically. But the numbers for Africa may be skewed.

Basically the only reason Africa has this exploding birth rate is a single country, Nigeria, with U.N. estimating that it will account for half of the projected population increase in the entire world during the next decades. Something doesn't add up here. The estimates may be in line with what so called NGOs want to see. The last official census was only in 2006 and reported only around 700,000 living in the capital of Nigeria. Everything since 2006 are estimates.

Update: Just finding out that their census is indeed ripe with corruption: The story of how Nigeria’s census figures became weaponized

Implausibly, each state had managed to maintain its exact share of the population across two censuses, 15 years apart. [...] What part of Nigeria’s official census figures can be believed? I’ve generally assumed the total figure of 140 million was perhaps correct and the falsification only happened in the way it was distributed across the states by formula. But there’s reason to doubt even that. In 2010, Donald Duke, the former two-term governor of Cross River state, committed a remarkable act of political class suicide by penning an article detailing how he and his fellow governors rigged elections in Nigeria. Buried in the middle of the piece was this line:
When we conducted the census in 2006 or so, the raw figures said we were over two hundred million; when they went and processed the figures it came down to 140 million.
[...] What began in 1962 as jostling for advantage by politicians in a newly independent country became reinforced when resource rents upped the stakes. As with such things, even when it starts with falsifying census figures, it never ends there. Recently, the head of the Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission (RMAFC) – the body tasked with deciding Nigeria’s revenue sharing formula—complained that states and local governments were concocting figures to boost their share of revenues. It is hard to tell what other data is being manipulated.
Nigerians do not trust official figures and neither do officials trust their own figures. The agriculture ministry recently put out a tweet where it quoted a data aggregation website, Index Mundi, as proof rice production had gone up in Nigeria. The irony of the country’s agriculture ministry being unable to produce its own data on a supposed achievement and having to rely on data from a foreign website was not lost on many people. Each time there is a terror attack or kidnapping in Nigeria, one guaranteed outcome is that the figures for the number of casualties or victims will vary from newspaper to newspaper and official government sources.
It helps to explain an ironic phenomenon—everyone in Nigeria—including the government, appeals to outside authority for authentic data about the country.
And, "surprisingly", the country was not able to hold its 2016 census due to lack of money... The current estimate is around 200 million. Fascinatingly if the original raw figures were correct, they would basically be stable in reality. But all the data seems to be already unreliable at the core.

I am starting to believe that overpopulation is even a worse lie than I thought. Obviously it is likely that population is increasing in Africa, but we don't know how much, and we don't know when the supposed growth will stop.

They will hold up the myth of Africa and India literally exploding, until the death rates in the developed countries far outweigh the birth rates. "But it's not so bad, we are still exploding globally, just look at Nigeria". Then at some point we'll have a global resettlement program bringing the African population into the West. We will probably see a quick dissolution of borders at some point. 50 years or so. There will be a catalyst, and then things can go very quick, just like with the European Union.
 
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Username: dianag
Date: 2019-01-22 13:26:43
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I posted in Media about the comet of 536. In this video it talks about the climate change which destroyed crops and the haze left from the impact which turned the Sun blue and the haze continued for years. The failure of crops during a period of 5-6 years was said to have caused world wide starvation with deaths estimated between 25-200 million people.
 
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Username: lostwithtime
Date: 2019-01-23 02:37:39
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I had yet to hear of this bridge and did a little research. This is horrifying to say the least. Was the welfare of the citizens not factored into the design?

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The Skydance Pedestrian Bridge design is said to be inspired by the "sky dance" of the scissor-tailed flycatcher, Oklahoma's state bird. The 18-story structure is 30-feet wide and stretches 440-feet across the semi-depressed section of the 10-lane I-40 south of downtown. Wings rise above the bridge, reaching as high as 185 feet in the air, and a 66-inch high ornamental metal railing spans the length of the bridge.

The bridge is made of stainless steel panels that shimmer in the sun, and uplighting at night emits a skyward glow. The wings, made from a translucent material, appear to glow from within, creating a stunning visual display along with the functionality of allowing travelers to walk from downtown to the newly renovated Oklahoma River area.

The bridge's price tag eventually went up to $12.8 million, far beyond the city's $6.8 million budget.

The Skydance Bridge opened to the public in April of 2012 over I-40, near Robinson Ave.

Now, six and a half years later, city leaders will vote on whether to make some repairs to the 380-foot long wooden bridge.

Graffiti and buckling wood on the deck of the pedestrian bridge is in desperate need of repairs.

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"With wear and age, the deck is starting to warp and do all those things wood material does,” said Shannon Cox, public information officer for the Oklahoma City Public Works Department.

The bridge, which has already been repaired one time in 2014, will now head to the city council's agenda. The city council will vote on a $750,000 measure to fix or replace the deck.
City Council will vote on $750,000 repairs for Skydance Bridge’s pedestrian deck

--Do citizens have any idea what they vote for???? Stainless Steel panels, LED lights, and wood spanning 440-feet in tornado alley? And into it's 2nd repair since creation?

"Skydance Pedestrian Bridge, may we introduce Mr. Winner-Take-All Tornado?"

Dubbed as the capital of “Tornado Alley”, Oklahoma City has witnessed heaps of tornadoes through the passing of time. The city’s most astounding record can be traced back on June 8, 1974, in which five distinct tornadoes visited all in one day.
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Username: whitewave
Date: 2019-01-23 05:36:35
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We know what we vote for but TPTB have repeatedly informed voters that we "didn't mean it" and then just do what they want. We had a few items on the presidential ballot (medical marijuana) which were overwhelmingly approved but were told "the voters didn't mean that and didn't know what they were voting for" so it didn't pass. There was an uproar and they put it back on the midterm ballot and it passed (2 years later!) We voted to keep smoking (cigarettes) in restaurants but TPTB nixed that and outlawed it anyway. They wanted to put up that Baphomet statue against the people's choice so several (thousand) of us reminded them that everyone in Oklahoma has a pickup truck and a chain so they decided that maybe Michigan would rather have the statue. Honestly, I don't know why they bother to put out a ballot.

Back on topic: I've read a coupla books the last couple of days written during the 1500's and 1700's and man! was there a lot of slaughtering going on back then. Guess they figured that was the best way to "settle" a new land. The native inhabitants (mainly South America but also in N. America) were just as blood-thirsty as the Spanish, French, Dutch, and English. Most of the "governments" of the native peoples were cannibalistic. The natives also told tales of when they had some major epidemic that wiped out most of their inhabitants about 150-200 years before Columbus showed up. The natives in what is now Mexico were unhappy with the tyrannical Montezuma because he increased his human sacrifice from 2,000 to 20,000 in one year. That'll really knock a population down. Many other cultures also practiced human sacrifice and cannibalism. Those practices coupled with the "civilized" world constantly warring with one another has probably caused more human suffering and destruction than all the natural cataclysms combined (if you'll allow for some hyperbole, here).
 
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Username: BossesWife
Date: 2019-01-23 06:04:27
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Leaves me with the sneaking suspicion that another world wide cataclysm is just right around the corner waiting to take out this civilization
 
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Username: jd755
Date: 2019-01-23 10:50:57
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Not really off topic as it is the illusion of 'your vote matters' that holds people in slavery allowing 'them' to do what they do.

“Since the adoption of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights in 1948, human rights and development. And their interaction, have been widely discussed and debated. The founding principles of the United Nations incorporate both human rights and development, and several countries that became independent in the last sixty years have incorporated these principles into their national constitutions. However, there is a key factor that affects both human rights and development that has not received the attention that it deserves: the right to identity. In the absence of this right, an individual does not exist before the law and is unable to claim the protection that the law and the human rights framework guarantee. Legal identity and citizenship establish the relationship between individuals and the state. Without legal identity for people, national and international law lack the essential link and “teeth” that would separate rhetoric from practical usefulness, whether it is for peoples rights or for legal obligations of people and state. The absence of a comprehensive civil registration system to “count” – and be accountable for - every person, also is a critical obstacle to the ability of governments to plan and monitor development strategies.”

In full
 
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Username: dianag
Date: 2019-01-23 12:18:25
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With all the changing of calendars through many ages we have no idea of the length of time we as people have existed.
Reading about several comet storms striking our planet makes me think that the 'mud floods' could have been caused by them either through massive tsunamis or liquefaction events. These strikes could have caused world wide floods, dust clouds, drought, an ice age and huge loss of human life.

The people who control the money have seized power and are hiding this information from the residents. They control the news media via radio, newspapers, internet, and television and we get what they try to force feed us. Luckily we are now able to at least share ideas and search for our history and the more we are able to talk and search the more we will know about our 'true' beginnings.
 
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Username: wild heretic
Date: 2019-01-23 13:41:09
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Yes, I'd say the Pangea events from 1400 to 1771 wiped out a lot of people and kept the population "steady", especially the first two or three expansions which would have reduced populations to nothing in several places. There is a link I think with these events and plagues etc.

There may be something else going on after looking at depopulated cities such as St Petersburg in the mid 1800s. What it is I'm not sure yet.
 
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2019-01-23 13:45:54
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somehow this last event did not cause buildings and cities to disappear. it did not change the maps. Possibly wasn't even accompanied by mud. Just the people missing who supposedely would have lived in those cities. Global war between 1700-1800 seems likely to me, with high population loss. Something along the lines of a post-cataclysm war over resources and control. Biological warfare, possibly. Industrial revolution and the world fairs were marking the win of one party over the other.
 
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Username: wild heretic
Date: 2019-01-23 14:15:46
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Excellent point. I honestly hadn't thought of that. I was struggling to explain the depopulation and starting to clutch at esoteric ideas lke dimensional hopping etc. but a prolonged war sounds much more reasonable and likely.
 
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Username: BossesWife
Date: 2019-01-23 14:31:32
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That’s actually something I’ve been researching. From what I have gathered and I can start a thread on this here but forgive me I haven’t gotten to that stage on here, I’m more in research mode. Now the earth is transitioning into a different zodiac age and so is our cosmos.


The cycle of precession lasts 25,800 years, and there are 12 constellations of the Zodiac. So, roughly every 2,150 years, the sun's position at the time of the March, or vernal, equinox moves in front of a new zodiac constellation.

The earth is currently in age of Pisces and transitioning to Aquarius and our galactic age or cosmic age is transitioning from Sagittarius to Capricorn. Now “they” claim it’s going to take another 600 years but from my perception I feel it’s in the next 150 years.

I find it interesting because in the age of Taurus they were sacrificing children to tophets shaped like golden oxen. With the age of Pisces is about deception and illusion, now what is the sign of Pisces... a fish! Seems our religious world orders are struggling, the closer we get to the grand finale, I think we see more fanatical religionists fighting that change.

So are “they” using the ages as a cataclysmic time clock to reset humanity back? My historical findings show that the end of an age typically ushers in a sudden and violent collapse of civilizations, followed by a dark period, then grand enlightenment of the next age.

In my honest opinion I think things are getting amped up!
 
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2019-01-23 14:57:16
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And now we can look this : Second Hundred Years' War - Wikipedia

Began in 1689!!

Some of the wars, such as the Seven Years' War, have been considered world wars and included battles in the growing colonies in India, the Americas, and ocean shipping routes around the globe.

Many in Europe referred to Great Britain as "Perfidious Albion", suggesting that it was a fundamentally untrustworthy nation. People compared Britain and France to ancient Carthage and Rome, respectively, with the former being cast as a greedy imperialist state that collapsed, while the latter was an intellectual and cultural capital that flourished:
The republicans knew as well as the Bourbons that British control of the oceans weighed in Continental power politics, and that France could not dominate Europe without destroying Britain. "Carthage"—vampire, tyrant of the seas, "perfidious" enemy and bearer of a corrupting commercial civilizationcontrasted with "Rome", bearer of universal order, philosophy and selfless values.[7]
I don't think France would have necessarily been considered the ancient Rome, "bearer of universal order and selfless values". Maybe what we are dealing with is again an invisible enemy that has been purged, which would mean France and Britain worked together in reality, against the old universal order.

So looking deeper into what really happened at the origins of the new order during that century - Spain, France, Italy (Pope), Britain, Germany - may lead to better unterstanding of our current situation. And here apparently there is something what was considered a world war, coming out of central Europe in the 18th Century.
 
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