SH Archive Giant "Ancient" Romans, Human Engineering and the Real Slavery

[Starman]

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Based upon the writings scratched into sandstone that were found inside of many of the Dolmens, especially those in Portugal and Spain, I believe that they were a gathering place for the shamanistic types, which would have been proto-Druidic. Some of the dolmens date to the Cro-Magnon era. One in France was indeed dated to about 15,000 YBP.

I always thought dolmens existed out in the fields as temporary shelters from celestial fallout, whether meteorite bombardment or synchotronic radiation. Ya know, this celestial havoc can creep up on you when you least expect it.

 

[KD Archive]

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Dolmens remind me jail cells. I have no idea how one gets in, and out unless assisted by some super powerful individual. The ones which have open entrance appear to be partially destroyed. IMHO. And for the most part they appear to be pretty small.

 

[Starman]

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Dolmens remind me jail cells. I have no idea how one gets in, and out unless assisted by some super powerful individual. The ones which have open entrance appear to be partially destroyed. IMHO. And for the most part they appear to be pretty small.

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Ha! Through our careful research we have isolated the purpose of dolmens as either grotesque jail cells, enlightened chambers for sacred rituals, or simple shelters from cosmic disturbances. Glad we're all on the same page and getting closer to a real understanding of the past!

 

[JimDuyer]

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Ha! Through our careful research we have isolated the purpose of dolmens as either grotesque jail cells, enlightened chambers for sacred rituals, or simple shelters from cosmic disturbances. Glad we're all on the same page and getting closer to a real understanding of the past!

A huge cosmic disturbance is about to strike the Earth. Local shamans are called in to use their sacred rituals in order to convince the disturbance to go around. When that fails, the dolmen becomes their jail cell in punishment.

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2019-05-26 14:01:42
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Ha! Through our careful research we have isolated the purpose of dolmens as either grotesque jail cells, enlightened chambers for sacred rituals, or simple shelters from cosmic disturbances. Glad we're all on the same page and getting closer to a real understanding of the past!

Wiseup has an idea, I tend to agree with him. The Dolmens were originally built of wood and had thatched roofs, if you watch this video to the end, he makes a pretty good case for it as well.

 

[Whitewave]

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Wiseup has an idea, I tend to agree with him. The Dolmens were originally built of wood and had thatched roofs, if you watch this video to the end, he makes a pretty good case for it as well.

That does make more sense than schleping huge rocks up a hill. Thanks for that, Ice Nine. Does he mention (another video, perhaps?) what he thinks was their purpose? The entrances seem too small and impractical for human use.

 

[JimDuyer]

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That does make more sense than schleping huge rocks up a hill. Thanks for that, Ice Nine. Does he mention (another video, perhaps?) what he thinks was their purpose? The entrances seem too small and impractical for human use.

I've never seen Dolmens like the ones he shows in his videos. Especially none with round holes in them. They are generally two or sometimes three rocks, supporting a larger roof-like rock. None have ever originated as "mud" or "wood", and in fact they are often with very large openings. These small circular types, where does he get these images from? OK, I found them. Those are all from the Caucusus, and they are not dated as old as the traditional ones in Western Europe. Who knows if they were even Dolmens at all, as in religious and scientific places to meet and discuss topics of shamans/early scientists.

 

[Archive]

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You are right Jim, most Dolmens are the type you describe.

Here a link with just about anything a person would like to know about Dolmens world wide all mainstream but still lots of pictures, locations and what have you.
Dolmens
and we have an old thread about Dolmens n Montana, I just remembered. Montana Megaliths

It's sure is hard to find a one size fits all explanation about anything. Wise-up's explanation works if they were thatched roofed wooden structures that had something harden over them. How does that work, not sure. The more I think about anything the less things make any sense. I'll think I've got something worked out and then something always throws a monkey wrench into it.

 

[WorldWar1812]

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Nice thread I'll check in detail later.

Only one thing to point, about Dolmen etimology, comes to explain a plain surface. Like a table.

Dolmen=DL=TL=Tolmen.

So it seems, originally (unless any kind of hidding) Dolmen it's related to funerary meanings.

Dolmen and Tolos.
Tholos - Wikipedia

In Spain we have Majorca and Balearic islands well known Taulas (tables).

Taula - Wikipedia
Talaiot - Wikipedia

What I've heard about Dolmens it's they were used to set up the dead corpses several days to finnish the mortuary ritual or process.

The etruscan circular tombs, are related to Tholos.





Treasury of Atreus - Wikipedia

Spanish old city (Visigoths) Toletum (Toledo), probably comes from a very ancient site dedicated to royalty tombs.

So it's clear to me this relationship on funerary sense. Maybe the typical dolmen it's the remains or framework for a Tholos (circular tomb).

Anyway there are very interesting researching, about accoustical and magnetic properties of several sites or dolmens, if that it's related to a funerary practical ritual I don't know, We should even consider if these big rocks are very ancient (several millenia) and this funerary thing it's a practical use that has been took later.

Dolmens are usually placed over very strong underground telluric currents.

 

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very large roman shoe

 

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Date: 2019-05-27 19:48:07
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Well reversed engineered or not, I think there are real triangular aircraft that can cloak etc.

 

[JimDuyer]

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You are right Jim, most Dolmens are the type you describe.

Here a link with just about anything a person would like to know about Dolmens world wide all mainstream but still lots of pictures, locations and what have you.
Dolmens
and we have an old thread about Dolmens n Montana, I just remembered. Montana Megaliths

It's sure is hard to find a one size fits all explanation about anything. Wise-up's explanation works if they were thatched roofed wooden structures that had something harden over them. How does that work, not sure. The more I think about anything the less things make any sense. I'll think I've got something worked out and then something always throws a monkey wrench into it.

Thanks for that - thought I was losing it for a minute.

 

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If you think what you are saying might be crazy then check this out.
This one is for the US.
United States of America
This link you can see any country you want. Its interesting to see what countries are spared and what countries are not.
List of Countries 2017
Georgia Guidestones: Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature and Guide to Military Equipment and Civil Aviation have a lot in common.

Huh, never seen that site before.

 

[dreamtime]

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Well, I just wanted to throw this out there for a discussion. For a while now, I have been trying to find a possible explanation for the weird infatuation with the Ancient Roman culture displayed by those who lived in the 19th century. According to the narrative the time distance between the 19th century, and the Ancient Romans was pushing 1,200 - 1,400 years. Yet, we have such recent (relatively) individuals as Napoleon Bonaparte, Peter the Great and George Washington displayed wearing the same Ancient Roman toga attire. Of course, it is explained officially as an artistic style, or vision. But what if style or vision had nothing to do with this. What if we are being misled beyond belief?

• The toga, a distinctive garment of ancient Rome, was a roughly semicircular cloth, between 12 and 20 feet (3.7 and 6.1 m) in length, draped over the shoulders and around the body. It was usually woven from white wool, and was worn over a tunic. In Roman historical tradition, it is said to have been the favoured dress of Romulus, Rome's founder; it was also thought to have been worn by both sexes, and by the citizen-military. As Roman women gradually adopted the stola, the toga was recognised as formal wear for Roman citizen men.
• Ancient Rome: 753 BC - 476 AD

Additionally, we need to remember that there was no knowledge of anything ancient prior to approximately 1418, when Poggio Bracciolini discovered the "antiquity". There are multiple other issues to consider, when talking about the antiquity as it relates to the narrative compliant time frames. Below are just some of those.

• Questionable antiquity of the "ancient" statues
• 79 A.D. no more: Pompeii got buried in 1631
• The History of Rome has no Surviving Sources
• Was Cleopatra a medieval queen?
• Norumbega: Washington Monument and the Roman Empire
• Was Stonehenge rebuilt, or constructed in 1954?

17-19th centuries.

The below compilation has three well known historical individuals wearing the above mentioned Ancient Roman toga:

• Peter the Great: 1672-1725
  • Remember, that Peter's last name was ROMANov.
• George Washington: 1732-1799
• Napoleon Bonaparte: 1769-1821

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We had this little discussion about who the blurry figures in the below image were supposed to be prior to being edited out. There was an opinion that the ones on the right side of the photograph were children. In the squared area below I think we could have toga wearing individuals poorly hidden by a low quality editing. The only issue with that would be that it was 1870s.

To discuss the below "toga" photograph, please visit the pertaining thread below:

• The Paris Commune topples a statue of... Napoleon? "1871"

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And of course the above collection would not be complete without the below statue of George Washington.

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Obviously, there are more of the "recent" individuals out there, displayed in such a fashion. The above three were used due to their notoriety. Here is a little extra on the issue.

Alexander Suvorov
1730-1800
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Roman monuments to non-Roman individuals

Ancient Times

Then we obviously have the original toga wearers, those from the so-called ancient times. I will lean towards the size mismatch between "ancient" individuals due to my train of thought racing in this specific direction. The size variation is different. Whether it could be attributed to various time frames, or different versions of the species, I do not know.

Marcus Aurelius at a sacrificial ceremony with the Temple of Jupiter Capitolinus in the background.

• Marcus Aurelius: 121 AD - 180 AD

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I am not going to look for any additional images of the different size ancient humans wearing togas. I know that I have seen a few. You are welcome to add the ones you come across.

I will leave visual presentation of humans/humanoids at that for right now. Simply remember that there is a height/size difference present. For additional reference please see the below link. The individuals there are not Ancient Romans, but I believe the core issue is directly related.

• Giants Of Egypt, Chaldea, Syria, Babylonia, and Assyria

Your Highness/Majesty

I suggest that the below explanation of Highness/Majesty could be incorrect:

• The forms used when referring in the third person are His Highness (of a man) and Her Highness (of a woman).
• If the prince or princess is a member of a royal family, the full form is Your Royal Highness; if a member of an imperial family (i.e., the family of an emperor or empress), the form is Your Imperial Highness.
• The corresponding form for a king, queen, emperor, or empress is Your Majesty.

In my opinion, "Your Highness/Majesty" means a much bigger size of the person referred to by "Your Highness". Meaning the title should be taken literally. As in...

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Architecture

A lot has been said about various instances of the Roman-like architecture in the United States. None of these architectural marvels describes the issue we are dealing with better then the World Parthenon phenomena.

The original Parthenon is claimed to be Ancient Greek. At the same time if the Ancient Rome was not what we are told it was, the Ancient Greece, if it ever existed, was something different as well. In my opinion its one and the same.

Anyways, here is the Ancient Greek Parthenon in Athens.

• Constructed: 447 BC - 432 BC

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This here is the Nashville, Tennessee Parthenon.

• Constructed: 1897 out of horse hair and plaster. Rebuilt into a permanent structure between 1925 and 1931. Allegedly of course.

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Additionally we have multiple other similar structures. Some were produced almost 2,000 years ago, and some only 100-150 years ago.

The Peter and Paul Cathedral in Sevastopol.
Built in 1840-1842.
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Same Sebastopol church (above) in the 19th century.
Link 1 - Link 2
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Madeleine Church, Paris. Built in 1807-1828.
Founded by Napoleon.
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Roman Pantheon vs French Pantheon
113 AD vs 1765 AD
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Titus Rome Arch vs. Moscow Arch
82 AD vs 1834 AD
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Unrelated Arches Info

KD: My hypothesis for all of the above is summarized via the below bullets.

• Ancient Greek Parthenon, Roman Pantheon and any "ancient" structure was built at a relatively the same time with the Nashville/Sebastopol Parthenon, and French Pantheon. In other words, the only difference is the condition our TPTB chooses to keep them in.
• Napoleon, Washington, Peter the Great and their Co. and Marcus Aurelius and his Co. (while traditionally separated by 1,000+ years) belonged to the same spin of civilization, and have to be placed much closer to each other on the time scale. Some of them could possibly exist at the same time.
• They were the ones called "Your Highness, Majesty" and such due to their superior height, power and abilities.
• They were the proverbial Giants, on whose shoulders Mr. Newton once stood.
• They used the doors similar to the one below.

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If this guy below was to stand up, he would have walked right through the above door, and its size would have made the perfect sense.

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The upper floor of the Russian Winter Palace was for the serving slaves. The other ones were for the Gods.

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And those "in the know" have been making fun of us for quite a while now.

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Real Slavery?

I finally made it to the actual purpose of the thread, which made me spend time on everything you see above. Their Highnesss and Majesties, aka The Giants, were the true masters with knowledge and abilities to build all the architecture we still admire today. They also had the knowledge to make us, the humans. I mean exactly that. Just like we make cars, and computers today, they were making us. They were the Gods, and us, the humans, were their slaves. We were made in their likeness, but with multiple developmental shortages.

Nashville, TN
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Secrets of Nashville Tour: The Path of Illumination

In one of the recent threads pertaining to the early American Prisons we had the below building: Eastern State Penitentiary.

• Originally, inmates were housed in cells that could only be accessed by entering through a small exercise yard attached to the back of the prison; only a small portal, just large enough to pass meals, opened onto the cell blocks. This design proved impractical, and in the middle of construction, cells were constructed that allowed prisoners to enter and leave the cell blocks through metal doors that were covered by a heavy wooden door to filter out noise.

Notice the size of the front door, and re-read the bullet above. In my opinion this is the place the Gods used for production of their slaves. Those slaves were us, the humans. The slaves were of all skin colors.

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Additionally we could have been grown in what today is known as Dolmens.

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Are humans the result of genetic engineering?

Aristocracy

Aristocracy is a form of government that places strength in the hands of a small, privileged ruling class. The term derives from the Greek aristokratia, meaning 'rule of the best-born'. The Gods were the Aristocrats: a class of persons holding exceptional rank and privileges, especially the hereditary nobility.

It appears that some time as late as the mid-19th century some of the Gods were still in existence. Something happened, and humans, aka The Slaves revolted against their masters, and won the Global War. I use the 19th century relying on the traditional time table. Could it be some other time frame? It probably could.

After the war we ended up with multiple cities without population:

• Abandoned Saint Petersburg is ready for re-population, or why we do not know our true history...
• Abandoned 1867 Moscow, Russia. Where are the people?
• Abandoned 1856 Toronto almost ready for re-population...
• Abandoned 1870s Venice. Where are the people?

Engineered Children

Once the War with Gods was over, the children could still be engineered. In my opinion this is how the below "Orphan Train" issue could be explained.

Official position: During the 1850s there were thousands of children living on the streets of several major cities. The children were in search of food, shelter, and money and sold rags, matches, and newspapers just to survive. The children formed gangs for protection because life on the street was dangerous and they were regularly victimized. The police often arrested the children, some as young as five years old, and put them in lock up facilities with adult criminals. Determined to remedy the situation, the Children’s Aid Society and the New York Foundling Hospital devised a program to take children off of the streets of New York and Boston and place them in homes in the American West rather than allow them to continue to be arrested and taken advantage of on the streets. Because the children were transported by train to their new homes, the term “orphan trains” began being used.

• The Orphan Train Movement was a supervised welfare program that transported orphaned and homeless children from crowded Eastern cities of the United States to foster homes located largely in rural areas of the Midwest. The orphan trains operated between 1854 and 1929, relocating about 200,000 orphaned, abandoned, abused, or homeless children.

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Foundlings and the Orphan Trains: video by CONSPIRACY-R-US

Keep it under 500 million

Not sure if this one here could be related, but judging by our abandoned cities, and population numbers in 1850s, may be it could. May be the Gods did keep our numbers under 500 million. Looks like it did not help them too much. On the other hand, may be their numbers were under 500 millions, this is just some food for thought.

• Georgia Guidestones: Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature
• World population: where are the missing trillions of people?

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KD: Anyways, above is my hypothesis on some of the issues we are dealing with. I just scratched the surface of the info pertaining to the topic at hand here. I understand that it sounds crazy enough, but so do some of the narrative compliant versions.

As far as giants go, may be we should start paying closer attention to what we are actually presented with. Some of the paintings could reveal things we were not supposed to know.

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Arch of Constantine

After all, why not?
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Possible books, weapons and musical instruments of the Giants

The existence of giants very recently may be true, but whether our modern race was manufactured I don't know. Isn't it more likely that certain environmental factors simply made everyone smaller? How would the entire race of the giants become extinct so quickly otherwise? It looks like they basically disappeared completely within a couple generations.

In that case there would have been a time frame of around maybe 50-100 years where giants lived together with their smaller offspring. The giants would have been the elders, and people probably had an understanding that something happened to the environment that made them smaller. Over time, the bigger humans would slowly lose their power, with more and more of them dying out, maybe 30-40 years after the incident of only smaller humans being born, the tide shifted, and people started to hunt down the bigger humans, because they were frightened by their power. Or they simply died out peacefully, and disappeared into irrelevance.

The entire obsession with Roman stuff could very well already be explained by the fact that the old Roman culture was still alive 300 years ago, and then slowly changing into the later style we see in the 19th century, with people trying to recreate the old roman culture with their sculptures, etc.

 

[Starman]

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The existence of giants very recently may be true, but whether our modern race was manufactured I don't know. Isn't it more likely that certain environmental factors simply made everyone smaller? How would the entire race of the giants become extinct so quickly otherwise? It looks like they basically disappeared completely within a couple generations.

In that case there would have been a time frame of around maybe 50-100 years where giants lived together with their smaller offspring. The giants would have been the elders, and people probably had an understanding that something happened to the environment that made them smaller. Over time, the bigger humans would slowly lose their power, with more and more of them dying out, maybe 30-40 years after the incident of only smaller humans being born, the tide shifted, and people started to hunt down the bigger humans, because they were frightened by their power. Or they simply died out peacefully, and disappeared into irrelevance.

The entire obsession with Roman stuff could very well already be explained by the fact that the old Roman culture was still alive 300 years ago, and then slowly changing into the later style we see in the 19th century, with people trying to recreate the old roman culture with their sculptures, etc.

I really resonate with your observations in an Occam's Razor kind of way. The only datapoint missing is where all the giant bones went to.

We know that the earth environment has periodically changed abruptly, extinguishing species and at the same time adding spontaneous speciation. Out with the old, in with the new world. Somehow the biological order is able to shift radically and new beings arise quickly to fill the niches created. It is not a prolonged evolutionary process, a la Darwin. There seems to be some kind of resonance reply with a universal template to handle just about any new environmental condition. I could easily see humans adapting by becoming smaller.

I also think it quite likely the old world, call it Rome or whatever, wasn't that long ago. When the world is overturned by catastrophe and most people die, the historical record disappears. Those that survive conspire to rebuild some semblance of order, as a puzzle to best put all the pieces back together, but more importantly to gain control of a new narrative that sets them up as heads of the new power.

The more I consider it, the more it seems that these earth catastrophes may not be human or god induced, but are just part of the cosmic order, the ebb and flow of a challenging universe. The luciferian element in society gets a chance with every reset to jump in and take command. Sometimes they get a big leg up (as in this era), other times they can't quite overcome the general benevolence of human nature.

 

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The existence of giants very recently may be true, but whether our modern race was manufactured I don't know. Isn't it more likely that certain environmental factors simply made everyone smaller? How would the entire race of the giants become extinct so quickly otherwise? It looks like they basically disappeared completely within a couple generations.

Perhaps they simply left. We've no idea what's beyond our own 'fences'.

 

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As far as giants disappearing goes every story tells of humans getting sick and tired of feeding their insatiable appetites for not only food (which after they eat all the regular food they would eat the humans), war, power, worship and humans then conspiring to get rid of them which was pretty successful. The time period of the giants reign after the flood is often called the Golden Age, time of heroes, gods, men of reknown.
There is the Bible story of the March through the giant tribes/lands with decree to exterminate. I think many giants then took off for north and South America knowing God was done with them where they were. The stories also state when humans started fighting back the giants went under ground.
There are tales of n American natives doing this to smaller groups of giants, jack and the bean stalk in Britain, and many more. Jack (and David) out smarted the giant and killed them.
The stories of the tribes tells what happened. There were giants left, and are still around now. We don’t know how they disappeared in s America but there are stories of wise men coming over the sea, God’s wrath, native uprisings, and perhaps huge natural/supernatural localized catastrophes...there are definitely supernatural elements to the giant story but I see no evidence they were good, but horribly bad.

 

[dreamtime]

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As far as giants disappearing goes every story tells of humans getting sick and tired of feeding their insatiable appetites for not only food (which after they eat all the regular food they would eat the humans), war, power, worship and humans then conspiring to get rid of them which was pretty successful. The time period of the giants reign after the flood is often called the Golden Age, time of heroes, gods, men of reknown.
There is the Bible story of the March through the giant tribes/lands with decree to exterminate. I think many giants then took off for north and South America knowing God was done with them where they were. The stories also state when humans started fighting back the giants went under ground.
There are tales of n American natives doing this to smaller groups of giants, jack and the bean stalk in Britain, and many more. Jack (and David) out smarted the giant and killed them.
The stories of the tribes tells what happened. There were giants left, and are still around now. We don’t know how they disappeared in s America but there are stories of wise men coming over the sea, God’s wrath, native uprisings, and perhaps huge natural/supernatural localized catastrophes...there are definitely supernatural elements to the giant story but I see no evidence they were good, but horribly bad.

Doesn't all of that probably relate to the original giants from a very long time ago, like maybe 1000 years? I have the feeling the recent stuff shown in the starting post does relate to things happening a couple hundred years ago at max. There may be multiple variations of giants in our past.

Perhaps they simply left. We've no idea what's beyond our own 'fences'.

would explain a couple of things. Like people went overboard with their anti-giant mentality, and those who were still around decided it's no longer worth it to occupy this realm with so many dumb humans around.

 

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I think many giants then took off for north and South America knowing God was done with them where they were.

They certainly did. The average Indian was taller and healthier than the Europeans.
But the ruling class was towering. Including Pocahontas was the daughter of Powhatan .


John Smith, huge Pocahontas and the Avatar Giants of Susquehannocks

 

[WorldWar1812]

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The existence of giants very recently may be true, but whether our modern race was manufactured I don't know. Isn't it more likely that certain environmental factors simply made everyone smaller? How would the entire race of the giants become extinct so quickly otherwise? It looks like they basically disappeared completely within a couple generations.

HOMO CAPENSIS AND GIANTS
Elongated skulls and their implications on the past

It's interesting in order to get knowledge to dive into words' meanings (etimologies).

One idea comes after another when you mix several languages and historical or cultural context. For instance I take slavic languages for CITY, that's GORAD (GRAD).
And what linking comes then?
Well, mountain is GORA. So Gora (Mountain), means high up. Probably HORUS it's related either.

So for russians and slavic people city and highness or mountains has the same root. Maybe that shows us that in very ancient times first cities after the flood where in high places. On those times flat fields and the lower side of valleys and rivers were marshy lands, not useful then for agriculture or breeding animals.

On the contrary what we have received from greek-romans it's a more sophisticated concept under the idea of a city. Something that's planned and developed in a certain order (neighbours in square design, pipes for clean waters, etc, etc), when I say greek-roman, I could say the ancient world (it could be named etruscans or whatever
other name). In the greek-roman concept of city it's included a predesign or pre-planning in a FLAT place where all the buildings (except a military fortress) should be in the same level, usually near of water sources (Urban, comes from Ur=water, and Ban=aside of, near of), the greek name for city it's POLIS.

What does it mean POLIS?. Something it's flat. Here not only for a pre-plannification purposes but behind this lies the idea of an era change where in ancient times people recovered marshy lands in the lower valleys and flats, so people get down to the lower lands from high lands, as waters and marshy lands were dissapearing.

In slavic languages, again, POLIS means flat lands (that's where Poland name came), even in english to rub a surface (to polish), POLYE it's the great flat land (Polyushka Polye).

When humankind passed from high lands to lower lands agriculture was extended, so in a symbolical meaning the man passed from being sepherds, to farmers. Despite another esoterical or astronomical references, Cain who killed Abel, represents in a certain way the passing from stockbreeding to agriculture.

But what theese Biblical hidden interpretations are telling us? Why had Cain to kill Abel?


Focusing this in the homo capensis, and giant people, we know probably there was a time when earth's atmosphere where richer in oxygen and a bit different today (giant species), taking this red-haired people (usual rh-), or this giant people related to paracas skulls or homo capensis, we have the suspicion (mainly for the common practices of cranial surgery and trepanations), that something went wrong (brain blood pressure?), and not only that another clue it's low tolerance to UV sun radiation (so many tales of giants living under caves).

Remember H.G.WELLS time machine movie (the morlocks)? In the newest version, morlocks are depicted in red hair.

morlock.jpg (image)

Another clue on health and problems in the head, it's the story of David killing Goliath just smashing a stone in the head of him. There again probably a metaphora on head's problems.

This myth seems to be related with the one-eyed fomori in the gaellic irish tales. Ancient tribe tuatha de dannan (sons of the goddess Danu, being DN=Water, Donau, Dniepr, Donewy, Lon-Don, etc, etc). Sounds like an echo on a shamanic way or people with extrasensorial capabilities (pineal-3rd eye).

Tuatara Lizard has really a third eye.
Tuatara - Wikipedia

Particle OG, or AG (like Agamemnon), relates to giant people linage.

Ogham - Wikipedia

Oggham language (Occam name sounds similar), it's the language of the ancestors in Ireland (Giants).

Ogg, Oggham, Achaemenids and Achaei (Akhoi), Agamemnon, the Ogrish.

There were some people called Uk or Ukkos from UK-rania/UK-raine (Kingdom of Giants?), Ugros (Finnish), related either to this ancient linage of giant people. Ukkos or Akhoi or Achaei.

Not a surprise -survivors-
Ahoy (greeting) - Wikipedia

Finno-Ugric languages - Wikipedia



One hypothesis about this story of high lands and lower lands, besides atmospherical changes, it's in the genesis book just after the flood, and due very dramatical changes, a "mixed" race came (maybe related to nephilims) so this giant race. As waters were receding, normal people began to spread out, the civilization path pavemented on
increasing skills, intelligence, culture, etc, etc.

At the same time, this ancient race were dissapearing under these changes, or they couldn't adapt themselves fast enough, due to these health problems with head pressure in the lower lands (the more productive lands), maybe even as some atmospherical changes happened they couldn't even to live on upper or higher lands.

They had these problems? (trepanations), and got progressively dumb, in a dizzy mind, slow minded, to be finally extinguished.

Maybe paracas skulls and akhenaton (AK/AG particle again), story it's the last stage of this people, descending from giants and a different human race (that's for sure). There are two main places (surely there should be more), or locations for this cone heads (peru and around black sea), it's very strange any reference to old egypt. I wonder if like Smithsonians in America have made to dissapear lots of giant skeletons, the europeans of 19th century had made either to dissapear homo capensis out from egypt.