SH Archive Is "Flat Earth" a PsyOp?

[GandalfTheGreen]

No, no, no... the problems of navigating the southern hemisphere are well documented and this has been shown to you prior.

But again, your claim... claims require proof. I am just showing you that you have none.

Problem navigating the southern hemisphere? Have you tried using a map that is physically accurate to the shape of the earth? There is 0 issue navigating the earth in the southern hemisphere when you treat earth as a globe. It's only when you try to force the notion that earth is flat, and the tropics are 2 different sizes that physical navigation over the surface of earth becomes a problem. The tropics being equal in size isn't up for debate, it's a fact of reality.

The Circumnavigation of Antartica took only 72 days in order to set the new world record. Flat Earth hasn't circumnavigated either tropic, or bothered to attempt a navigation of either tropic, ever.

Ever. Not once.

 

[otl2021]

“Upon the principle, as taught by Scripture and common observation, that the world is not a Planet, but consists of vast masses of land stretched out upon level seas, the North being the centre of the system, it is evident that the degrees of longitude will gradually increase in width the whole way from the North centre to the icy boundary of the great Southern Circumference. In consequence of the difference between the actual extent of longitudes and that allowed for them by the Nautical Authorities, which difference, at the latitude of the Cape of Good Hope, has been estimated to amount to a great number of miles, many Ship-masters have lost their reckoning, and many vessels have been wrecked. Ship-captains, who have been educated in the globular theory, know not how to account for their getting so much out of their course in Southern latitudes, and generally put it down to currents; but this reason is futile, for although currents may exist, they do not usually run in opposite directions, and vessels are frequently wrecked, whether sailing East or West.”
--David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma”

 

[Quiahuitl]

The Circumnavigation of Antartica took only 72 days in order to set the new world record. Flat Earth hasn't circumnavigated either tropic, or bothered to attempt a navigation of either tropic, ever.

Ever. Not once.

Another member of the forum took the time to watch the video of the circumnavigation and determined that Antarctica was never visible at any point. Therefore it does not debunk the idea that what we call 'Antarctica' is in fact a circular ice wall with a circumference of at least 30,000km.

It remains a fact that Admiral Byrd led a major US navy expedition to Antarctica in the 1950s and is on record as saying 'There is an entire continent the size of America beyond Antarctica.'

 

[JohnNada]

It remains a fact that Admiral Byrd led a major US navy expedition to Antarctica in the 1950s and is on record as saying 'There is an entire continent the size of America beyond Antarctica.'

As in the known high ranking Freemason Admiral Byrd?

 

[otl2021]

As in the known high ranking Freemason Admiral Byrd?

What about the father of this concave Earth stuff; with us, our buildings, tower cranes, and the entirety of our oceans, all sticking to the inside of a sphere?



Anyways... RE: Navigating the "southern hemisphere"

 

[GandalfTheGreen]

What about the father of this concave Earth stuff; with us, our buildings, tower cranes, and the entirety of our oceans, all sticking to the inside of a sphere?
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Anyways... RE: Navigating the "southern hemisphere"

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I asked you in a previous thread, the last time you posted that image that Teed was a Freemason, to Identify which one of the men in the photo is Cyrus Teed? Also, this photo is from 1908, coincidentally, the year Teed died. I look forward to your response.

As I've already said, the freemasons give you 50% truth, and 50% lie, then swap hands so that you have to think again. This is the entire point of the flat earth psyop. To make you realize that heliocentrism is BS, and that FE is horribly incomplete, meanwhile, the third option, is there in front of your face the entire time.

You can offer as many observational proofs as you'd like; but until you demonstrate the tropics are in reality 2 different sizes, (Which neither you, nor any flat earther can, or ever will, simply because in reality they are the same size.) you will always be victim to an optical illusion that is entirely unrelated to the physical navigated forms of earth. A psychological operation designed to capture minds that have deduced that heliocentrism is fraudulent.

The most obvious, simplest, most ironic, and most entertaining solution to the fraud of heliocentrism, is that you live within the inside of a geometric sphere, and that space itself is also a sphere above you. Your horizon is a non-physical apparent illusion; and the most important thing they were hiding from you from the beginning; is still very much being hid from you in FE.

I have no further reason to contribute to this thread. Flat Earthers will never navigate the tropics to prove their reality, because their reality is nothing other than another fraudulent psyop.

 

[JohnNada]

What about the father of this concave Earth stuff; with us, our buildings, tower cranes, and the entirety of our oceans, all sticking to the inside of a sphere?
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I’m just trying to figure out why we can cite a Freemason as proof of flat earth, but if the Freemason says anything about concave earth it’s immediately a psy-op. Kind of hoping to get some sort of movement forward from the circular argument going on here and the flat earth thread instead of just continuing to have pages upon pages of wheel spinning.

 

[Apollonius]

I’m just trying to figure out why we can cite a Freemason as proof of flat earth, but if the Freemason says anything about concave earth it’s immediately a psy-op. Kind of hoping to get some sort of movement forward from the circular argument going on here and the flat earth thread instead of just continuing to have pages upon pages of wheel spinning.

I would like to add that Cyrus Teed was not a Freemason, and Ulysses G. Morrow was the principal person who conducted the study.

It's also been known for thousands of years that we live inside the Earth. Besides the Koreshans were not the first to discover it.

 

[Safranek]

With respect to the readers of this forum who take interest in our topics, please state that its YOUR OPINION you are quoting when not referencing other source(s).

Such as this one:

It's also been known for thousands of years that we live inside the Earth. Besides the Koreshans were not the first to discover it.

Many readers are not aware that this has been KNOWN as such, so if you are making such a statement without references to support it, then please state that its 'in your opinion' - do not state them as fact.

Opinions require no sources (but it would be nice to be able to provide them when asked).

Additionally, if you come to a stalemate in your discussion ending in total disagreement, be courteous and simply agree to disagree respectfully.

 

[otl2021]

I’m just trying to figure out why we can cite a Freemason as proof of flat earth...

What? Who?

but if the Freemason says anything about concave earth it’s immediately a psy-op.

It isn't that at all. The Teed shit is a psyop. C'mon now... sticking to the inside if a sphere? The masons mock with this shit as with their helio bs.

Kind of hoping to get some sort of movement forward from the circular argument going on here and the flat earth thread instead of just continuing to have pages upon pages of wheel spinning.

THEN STOP IGNORING THE EVIDENCE!

Look at the flight routes. Look especially at the emergency landings. Look at the horizon from any altitude. Look at water, our oceans, lakes and rivers! Why does the Sues canal not flow both ways? How is it even discussionable that planes fly great circle routes over some rotation axis?

Please now.

 

[fabiorem]

Hello. I don't know if there is any globe earther left in this forum, but I found this video yesterday and I really need to share it here, for the record.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuazez0iewA


This video was posted 7 months ago in YouTube, and shows a admission that the two hollow Earth maps (the ones showing swastikas) are real, and not some speculative map drawn by someone else. These maps were recovered from the soviet archives and there were more than a thousand copies, which were distributed among german submarines. The russian government released them in 2016, right before flat Earth became a thing, which, once more, proves that FE theory is a PsyOP to suppress knowledge about HE being spread.

The video also shows that there was a soviet organization similar to the old Anhenerbe to research this subject, called Project Orion, and which was active in the 80s. The two HE maps were made based on information the germans received from tibetan monks, that is, they didn't explore the Hollow and then came back, the map was drawn based on ancient knowledge from Tibet.
The video is in russian, but there are english subtitles, so you can check yourself. There was no FE mania back in 2016. Today is practically impossible to talk about the Hollow without a flat earther diverting the subject.

 

[FarewellAngelina]

Charles K Johnson , president of the international Flat Earth Society died in 2008 30yrs after taking over that position from the previous one. Proof of a PsyOp? In what way?

Flat earth does not exclude hollow earth either in my opinion .

 

[Mavis]

Yes. Flat earth is a PsyOp. Remember, people were burned at the stake for not believing the earth was flat. That indeed it was a circle. The Scriptures plainly state the earth is a circle. Isaiah 40:22. Then too, there's the scripture that says, there's nothing new under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9.
Hmmm...it would be informative to know if you're laughing at me or with me. Whiichver the case, thank you for the emoji. Peace to you
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[Just]

Yes. Flat earth is a PsyOp. Remember, people were burned at the stake for not believing the earth was flat. That indeed it was a circle. The Scriptures plainly state the earth is a circle. Isaiah 40:22. Then too, there's the scripture that says, there's nothing new under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9.
Hmmm...it would be informative to know if you're laughing at me or with me. Whiichver the case, thank you for the emoji. Peace to you
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‘People were burned at the stake for not believing the earth was flat.’ Firstly, how do you know this is true given that most of what we’ve been told about our history is evidently fake. Secondly, even if it is true this is not proof that flat earth is a psy op, is it? I would say the best disclaimer of the earth as a globe is that not one single non-composite picture has ever been taken of the earth from space. Not one.

 

[Mavis]

You have a point. True. I don't know if people were burned at the stake or not. I wasn't there and glad I wasn't if it be true. Again, you have a point. Except for Scripture, I don't know if the earth is a circle. However, I'd rather stay grounded in the Scripture belief than let my mind run helper skelter with unprovable theories. I'm not the smartest person in the world, no degrees a lot of which are hogwash to begin with, but I do have common sense. Which basically determines our survival. The rest is all distraction/entertainment to keep our minds occupied when the common sense routine becomes overly laborious whether it be by daily routine, governmentreligious mandates/psyops.

 

[Just]

You have a point. True. I don't know if people were burned at the stake or not. I wasn't there and glad I wasn't if it be true. Again, you have a point. Except for Scripture, I don't know if the earth is a circle. However, I'd rather stay grounded in the Scripture belief than let my mind run helper skelter with unprovable theories. I'm not the smartest person in the world, no degrees a lot of which are hogwash to begin with, but I do have common sense. Which basically determines our survival. The rest is all distraction/entertainment to keep our minds occupied when the common sense routine becomes overly laborious whether it be by daily routine, governmentreligious mandates/psyops.

I think the biblical take on our earth is that there are 4 corners and a firmament so sounds flat to me. I would love to opt for common sense as a fall-back option of what to believe but again I think that would be a flat rather than a globe earth. I believe the globe earth is a long-ago psy-op which they’re doubling down on but are failing to keep up with the increasing amount of evidence discrediting it. And it’s for that reason that all social media sites delete posts referencing it and ridicule all FE believers as crackpots which wouldn’t happen if they wanted is to believe it, would it?

 

[Mavis]

The only way I can answer this is to say, follow what your intuition tells you at present. If it's flat earth, go with it. You can always change your mind later if your intuition is gnawing at you. Corners could be applicable if one thinks more in circular angles. A room can be circular and still meet at connecting 'angles' that define the space as 'corners'. Don't take my word for that analogy as I'm probably wrong.

Any time any one is being labeled as a crackpot/conspiracy theorist, it's an alert that someone/s doesn't want to admit that there may be truth, even if it's only a kernel, in what is being claimed. And, at all costs, persons making such claims must be silenced.

 

[fabiorem]

The only way I can answer this is to say, follow what your intuition tells you at present. If it's flat earth, go with it. You can always change your mind later if your intuition is gnawing at you. Corners could be applicable if one thinks more in circular angles. A room can be circular and still meet at connecting 'angles' that define the space as 'corners'. Don't take my word for that analogy as I'm probably wrong.

Any time any one is being labeled as a crackpot/conspiracy theorist, it's an alert that someone/s doesn't want to admit that there may be truth, even if it's only a kernel, in what is being claimed. And, at all costs, persons making such claims must be silenced.

The problem is, you can't follow your intuition in this case. The evidence is right on my face that the Earth is round, but if I tell it, flat-earthers call me a "government agent" or a "NASA shill", even if I agree the moon landings were fake.
You can only follow group-thinking in this case. Intuition? Nah, who cares if the sun and the clouds are below the horizon. Who cares if navigation does not work in the pizza map. Who cares for perspective, that when you go up in altitude, it distorts the latitude. What matters is being part of the group. It is either we or them, there is nothing in the middle.

 

[Mavis]

To begin with, there never should be anything in the middle. It's straddling the fence of indecision. Intuition can be interpreted as mental perspective. Which would tell me that it'll have to be me, not them. Stand my ground so to speak. Better to stand alone. No crutch of group think which sooner than later proves to be stink think.

 

[fabiorem]

To begin with, there never should be anything in the middle. It's straddling the fence of indecision. Intuition can be interpreted as mental perspective. Which would tell me that it'll have to be me, not them. Stand my ground so to speak. Better to stand alone. No crutch of group think which sooner than later proves to be stink think.

I was not talking about a specific subject, but about a label applied to everyone.
You can have people who question history and don't believe in FE.
And you can have people who believe in FE and don't question history.
This is the middle ground I'm talking about. The nuances that allows for different discussions.

But if you want to believe I'm a NASA shill, go ahead, I don't care.
But don't complain when we call FE a PsyOP, to suppress knowledge about the Hollow.