SH Archive Ground Level Ozone and COVID-19

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KorbenDallas
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2020-03-22 04:48:20
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Username: wizz33
Date: 2020-03-31 16:31:14
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how are the chemtrails there, here they are gone since the start corona, i think that might have something to do with it.
 
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Username: nanuko
Date: 2020-03-31 16:35:32
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"Hola, paisano!"
We have been using ozone to purify water and air for years and we are doing very well.
I heard something about this stuff (carboxytherapy) a few months ago but can't remember the original source.
Hope this link be useful (sorry by my Russian is non-existent)


[The mechanism of the pulmoprotective action of carboxytherapy].

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In the meantime I'll try to recover the original podcast.
Regards:
Jose.
 
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2020-03-31 20:20:29
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Carbon Dioxide can be very dangerous, bot only if it displaces oxygen in the air. I built my own carbon dioxide bath. Similar to this one: Carbon Dioxide Therapy Bath – Carbogenetics

For each session one needs around 300g of CO2. Breathing for eample 1-5% carbon dioxide should be way more effective. Unfortunately I haven't found a way to do it safely. It's easier to look up Buteyko Breathing methods and learn to increase body CO2 by breathing differently. (normalbreathing.com)

Buteyko worked with Chernobyl victims and he could reverse acute radiation sickness with breathing alone, but his work is known mostly for Asthma, and in many countries (like Germany) the Buteyko therapy is officially accepted as a treatment for Asthma.
 
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Username: hopesksefall
Date: 2020-04-01 20:10:31
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Having worked in hotels for many years, one of the prime methods for removing unpleasant odors caused by smoking, food items, and others, was to use an "Ionizer" or "O-Zone generating machines", much like the image that I attached. This is purely anecdotal evidence, but I will say that any time I spent time in the room when the machine was running, it would cause an almost instant headache for me. There were warning stickers all over the device itself advising one not to stay in the room while the machine was running, and to give it at least a half-an-hour before entering the room once the machine has stopped running.

Ionizer.jpg
 
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Username: Japod
Date: 2020-04-07 00:20:26
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My aunt had her cancer cured with Ozone in Switzerland. For some reason the US has the lowest standards for ozone exposure as well as Borax (sodium tetraborrate) both of which have strong anti viral and anti fungal effects. Probably because we like treating symptoms in the US and not curing people as that is much less profitable.
 
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Username: Banta
Date: 2020-04-12 14:35:55
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He said he had to resign his position as director of the ICU and was moved to the ER. So, maybe he has some mandatory downtime?

I am not certain of his implication that COVID-19 is most similar to high altitude sickness, as it appears the "virus" is whatever you want it to be as long as it's something related to the respiratory system. It also occurs to me that anxiety and stress could manifest similar symptoms.

He is a doctor though so he's prone to looking for singular, silver bullet solutions.
 
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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-04-18 16:10:08
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I've used ozonators for years (even being in the same room) and haven't noticed any problems. It cleans the air from dust and other toxic particles.
 
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Username: andym
Date: 2020-04-19 05:33:59
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reminds me of the smell of 2 HP laserjet 9000's printing 15,000 double sided 11x17 sheets during the course of the day... :)
 
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Username: codis
Date: 2020-04-19 07:34:18
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I think, breathing into and from a bag, as asthmatics occasionally do, is the makeshift method of the same.
Oxygen level decreases and CO2 level increases when breathing the same air repeatedly.
 
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Username: andym
Date: 2020-04-19 15:03:08
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interesting you memtioned that because in almost all the cases i have seen that "breathe with a bag" suggestion it was during a moment of someone "hyper-ventilating" ...
 
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Username: codis
Date: 2020-04-20 08:25:42
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Not plagued with asthmatic issues.
But I think hyperventilation is a "panick-method" to deal with an asthmatic attack.
 
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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-04-20 13:08:29
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I had asthma as a child up into my teen years and found that when an attack was coming on, if I got really angry, it would go away. Fight or flight response produces adrenaline which is a natural form of epinephrine which is what the hospital gives you when you can't breathe.
 
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Username: andym
Date: 2020-04-20 13:45:13
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maybe i am misunderstanding it wrong, but in a panic situation or a "flabbergasted" moment, etc, when you'd see it in a movie or a comedy show or cartoon, the person would be breathing super fast and presumably getting more oxygenated air than they normally would, so someone would give them a bag to breath in, which seems like they were then getting less oxygen directly by using the bag to recycle the air...

that's what i was thinking in the context of my post anyway and thought it was close to what some were talking about, and how that related to the use of the ventilators that some of the doctors or others were speculating may be actually over oxygenating people, etc...

either way, this whole debacle is just crazy town!
 
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Username: codis
Date: 2020-04-20 14:06:51
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That is my superficial idea of it, too. Instinctively increasing the amount of pumps (breaths) per time to make up for the smaller effect.
As said, I never experienced this issue.
I think there is already enough critical discussion of "ventilating" elsewhere.
At least the doctors are doing something, they are highly trained, high-paid professionals, and exempt from prosecution during this times any way.
[Just to make sure, this was sarcasm ...]
 
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2020-04-20 15:43:55
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It's based on the work by Dr. R. Kovarik who pioneered the use of a closed, dry carbon dioxide bath therapy for women suffering from pregnancy gestosis (Preeclampsia), in the 1980s in Germany. He basically had a 100% success rate, and if I remember correctly he was silenced. Afterwards he moved to Paraguay because Germany was too oppressive.

He still lives there and is offering the therapy in El Paraiso Verde. Treatment in professional facilities is up to 100€ per session, and they are mostly based in Eastern Europe, so not easily accessible. The CO2 itself costs only 1€ per session, and everything can be done at home.

There's a self-help group that sells his material, as well as the instructions on how to build one. Please contact the group here for further instructions: Arbeitsgemeinschaft Gestose-Betroffene e.V.

Tell them you want to buy the licence by Dr. Kovarik, and the material needed for the therapy (bags, etc.). You will need to buy additional stuff like the bottle itself elsewhere. All in all the setup costs around 400€.

Note that CO2 can kill you if you handle it improperly and it replaces the oxygen in the air (for example when the bottle leaks into a closed room). Otherwise CO2 is entirely non-toxic.
 
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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-04-20 16:03:54
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Thank you.
 
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