Pink Floyd has some real trippy imagery, very appropriate.
Evidence humans were created and traded as slaves, food, entertainment and material resources (IHASFEMR)
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Yeah, the roundel medal pinned to the guy's chest makes him looks like patrician RAF. I guess back in the time The Wall was released, the chap caricatured would have been old enough to be involved in the RAF's alleged jolly japes over England's south coast on 15 August 1952.
At this point I was going to segue into the challenges three young women encountered in 2013, when they (tried to) publicly exhibit themselves sitting in baths of virgin and infant blood. This to demonstrate the treatments available at Lincoln's Leper Hospital of the Holy Innocents (AKA the Malandry).
But without photographs I'm worried it will be boring.
While I struggled with describing it in text, KD posted a comprehensive summary of our chronology problems over at SH.org. For folks interested in this thread, it's worth reading for the links about monastic counterfeiting. And also for this comment:
If I were starting to attack that, I would first look at the resemblances between North West Europe's 1540 events (probably 1536+ events) and Britain's
- 1540: Search results for query: 1540
- 1536: Search results for query: 1536
- 536:
For the moment, I'll stick to the boring job of researching the virgins' vexing blood bath.
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Another bump for the thread at: Our timeline could be much shorter than we think.... As of yesterday, KD is developing the theme that:
- we are the mortal genetically-engineered products of beings, who
- suffered some sort of war or cataclysm, and whose tech
- became our Industrial Revolutions and Great Exhibition exhibits, and
- these facts have been kept secret (from us)
KD adds that we may be enclosed in a protected environment that needs maintenance; for which time may be running short.
Personally, I think there is ample evidence that so-called mythical creatures - from giants to dragons - originally shared this space. And may still do. It's also clear that giant humans, and/or conventionally-sized humans have been - and probably still are - using humans as material resources. So I don't buy - at least not yet - the idea that humans alone created the environment in which we find ourselves.
But the idea that we are in a protected environment is a good fit for the notion that since about the time of Britain's Domesday Book - approx 1,000 years ago - we have been in a highly managed environment.
I assume it was obvious in my first posts about British floods being converted to politico-ecclesiastic events (here and here), that the Queen Mary of British history - and possibly Christianity's Virgin Mary - are crypto references to 'Mer', 'Mar' and 'Mare'. Meaning: the sea. To a catastrophic, environment-changing flood.
If that is correct - and if the 1086 Domesday -> i536/1536/1540 flood -> today chronology is correct - then we are looking at:
- an environment-changing event 1,000 years ago
- another environment-changing event 500 years ago and
- the possibility of another environment-changing event in the imminent future (for which 'Climate Change' is a crypto-label).
As this IHASFEMR thread was created to identify and interpret evidence that humans were created for and used in very material ways, I will go on dumping examples from the mountain of evidence that this was so. But I think folks who are disturbed by the IHASFEMR case, as well as those who accept the IHASFEMR case, might want to consider bigger picture possibilities like the one apparently beginning to appear in KD's thread.
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At stolenhistory.ORG.
This post presents evidence that during the 400 years between approx 1135 and 1535, 'ecclesiasts' in Lincoln, England, harvested babies' and virgin children's blood to treat diseases such as leprosy.
The original intention of this post was to show 19th Century suppression of investigations into the operations of the town's medieval leper hospital - the Hospital of the Holy Innocents (Google Maps), (Google Streetview). But that would not have shown what the hospital's practices actually were. This version attempts to show how the evidence that is available does provide us with clues about the practices in the hospital, and possibly explains a well-known, weird tale from Lincoln.
The evidence also leads to many other connections. A complete tour of the evidence, let alone how it might be interpreted, would take a long time. Instead, I've included references for you to research further if you want.
This post spends least time covering:
- Evidence in around 1843 of efforts to sanitise the history of this institution.
- Ecclesiasts' role in the human meat business.
- The role of the marketplace next to the Holy Innocents hospital site.
- Connections that possibly identify sections of our former - and probably current - management. That evidence is interesting to analyse but there are so many masks, labels and scapegoats in it - and pre-packaged attitudes to go with each mask, label and scapegoat - that I'm not sure it is helpful to try to untangle them in this post.
- Resemblances between:
- Roman man-to-man, to-the-death gladitorial 'games', and
- the 'pleasure gardens', 'deer parks' and 'hunting lodges' of post-1540 Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire, which
- perhaps hosted Dashwood/HellFire Club-organised manhunts, Hunger Games, and games with humans as chess pieces, bowling pins, etc.
A previous post suggested 'Bishop Hugh' is an anglicisation of the Basques' Besajaun. Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, look at the picture. What do you see?
Odd goings-on in and beneath the goblet in his left hand. Among the explanations, there will be:
- a conventional ecclesiastic explanation
- an art historian's explanation. Something like: "Medieval perspective is totally daft. I've spent my life studying it."
- The church bells = electromagnetic microwave apparatus explanation:
- An image of 'spirit cooking' perhaps.
- A straightforward IHASFEMR farm sign offering fresh, home-bred, home-cooked food.
According to Hugh of Lincoln - Wikipedia, Hugh was made Bishop of Lincoln in 1186. He was a patron of:
- sick children
- sick people
- shoemakers (Apparently 'religious' and secular elites - ie aristocrats - wore/wear red leather slippers to symbolise the Passion of Christ. It's not just the Pope)
- swans (whose symbolic meanings may not be well known):
Leda with a swan 'between her legs'. Mural, Pompeii. Source
She's glued grain to her bum again. Mosaic, Sanctuary of Aphrodite, Cyprus. Source
About 40 years before Hugh's promotion - that is, in 1048 - strange things happened in Lincoln. Under Bishop de Chesney, these three events occurred:
- 20 or so year old St Sepulchre's Hospital (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) switched from its original function of 'caring' for the aged and poor to 'caring' for orphans and sick children,
- mixed sex monastery - St Catherines Priory - was founded to manage St Sepulchre's, along with flocks of sheep, and:
- both were brought under the same management as a newly-founded leper hospital called the Hospital of the Holy Innocents. AKA 'The Malandry'.
Perhaps it was a re-branding exercise. "St Sepulchre's" is a problematic brand for any hospital. To me, it translates as "Saint Coffin's". But a new brand identify doesn't really make sense because 'Hospital of the Holy Innocents' is hardly great marketing either. According to http://www.innocents.com:
Branding... You have to ask, was branding an early Church weakness? Or did it do exactly what it said on the tin?
Modern historians tacitly admit they don't understand - or perhaps dare not state - the logic behind the mergers. From Heritage Connect Lincoln:
and
Which merely states what is self-evident while not revealing the 'likely... very interesting' reasons for the merger.
The Hospital of the Holy Innocents tapped the springs above its premises (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) on Lincoln's South Park Common, bringing fresh water down to its premises through underground conduits whose collapsed paths are still traceable today. It now had - on tap - a key ingredient for leprosy treatments.
Thus, in 1187 Bishop Hugh inherited a premier orphanage and two 'health centers' - one for children and one for lepers - sited next to each other at the intersection of two of England's major long distance roads: Ermine Street and Fosse Way. This all on the southern edge of Lincoln - a pattern previously examined in the second brothel post.
Bishop Hugh could now get on with
We don't hear what Hugh washed lepers' ulcerous limbs with. But in Leprosy in PreModern Medicine, by Luke Demaitre, we learn that medieval ecclesiasts of various persuasions recommended the following treatments for leprosy and elephantiasis:
- bathing in the blood of two infant children
- the blood of a virgin’s heart
- a hot bath medicated with the blood of two-year-old toddlers
- "menstrual blood, as much as it is possible to have"... in a bath
- the skin that is cut in the circumcision of a child... dried, ground up, mixed in a potion with a little musk
- an ointment... made with the blood of a young and healthy person
- the fresh blood of children... especially for the face
I don't find that credible. And Demaitre does tell us that Perrette de Rouen was found guilty in 1408 Paris of attempting to fix up a rich patient's facial scars by extracting fat from a stillborn (hopefully) baby.
It is reasonable to wonder then, if the reason for Lincoln's hospital mergers was to optimise "supply-chain synergies". By tapping springs, infants' blood, and children's - ie virgins' - blood at a single-site facility.
It's very hard to divine what modern historians don't know, versus what they do know and aren't going to admit. Here is, I think, Roberta Gilchrist on why the 'hospitals' were sited on the edge of town. Read the lines; then read between the lines:
and
No Roberta, it's because health spas - like whorehouses - tend to be sited where there's cheap land, lots of space, more customers, more water (in this case), and fewer complaints. Although, as we shall see, there was no shortage of complaints about the Hospital of the Holy Innocents.
As for the 'allotted symbolic role' played by 'the remainder of society', it looks as though the most 'symbolic role' these children could hope to be 'allotted' was regular blood-letting with leeches. That is, their best-case scenario was for there to be a shortage of live children so that children had to be conserved. However, for reasons outlined in two of this thread's earlier posts - here and here - another of the ecclesiasts' business lines seems to have been the frantic breeding of more children.
For business owners in blood products, leeching has a lot going for it:
- If you need blood in a different place or a later date, and if you don't have motorbike blood-couriers available, leeched blood doesn't coagulate.
- Business synergies. For example, we have evidence that medieval water treatments did use aquatic animals such as red garra fish. This suggests there was expertise in, and infrastructure for, managing aquatic water life in the health industry: red garra fish, leeches and, who knows, maybe toads and eye of newt. From a business perspective, if you are in the medieval aquaculture business - as ubiquitous monastery fishponds show ecclesiasts were, then leech-based products become a minor - but potentially profitable - variation in an existing product range.
And on-demand blood extraction may have been a valuable part of product delivery. Put it this way: blood leeching does not explain why archaeologists find so many 'strigiles' and bladed tools on the sites of so-called 'Roman' baths. Showmanship does. As the Covid response demonstrates to us in our own time, a showy display of expertise is as important to the presentation of healthcare as it is to the presentation of food:
Freshly cut ingredients, attractively presented. Source
A preference for medication with freshly extracted blood is also consistent with Internet-findable engravings of infants being killed over fonts and their carcasses being dumped at the bases of fonts (which you can find yourself if you want to see them, most easily on German, Polish and Russian sites).
If this is difficult to envisage, remember my proposition is that what was farming us, eating us, bathing in our blood and creating high tech tools with our remains was not necessarily human. About the only obvious thing we share with it is words like 'blood-bath'.
Anyway, I interrupted Roberta:
Maybe. But perhaps it was because the executed provide a no-questions-asked source of body parts and body fluids, per the links in Oracle's earlier post. Especially once you know that abbots owned gallows.
Is there any eye-witness evidence the staff at the Hospital of the Holy Innocents were killing children to medicate bathwater with infant and/or virgin blood?
No. But there is evidence of the people of Lincoln becoming enraged over an allegation that a group of tanners tortured a boy and threw his body into a well inside a Lincoln house. And that Bishop Hugh managed the subsequent cover-up.
The strange 1255 tale of Little Saint Hugh is well known in Lincoln - and on the Internet - so I won't get into the allegations and counter-allegations. You can read one version of them yourself here. Bear in mind there were similar allegations of processing-of-children in Norwich and York. Both - like Lincoln - are cathedral cities.
Cathedral -> catheter:
Ablation? Remember the General Oblation Board?
The three main takeaways are:
- Don't confuse your Hughs: one's a dead child, the other's in charge of religious affairs.
- The tortured boy Hugh was allegedly thrown into a well beneath a house.
- The presence of multiple 'home' butchery/tanning processes.
I certainly don't think these tanners were 'Jewish' as we understand 'Jewish' today. I'm not sure they were 'human' as we understand 'human' today. Possibly, they were taller or had a different skull shape. Possibly other. Perhaps something along these lines. Possibly just working a trade, along the lines set out by Jef Demolder:
Somewhere in all this may also be the entity labelled Oliver Cromwell. Cromwell could be a time-displaced militant puritan. His militance is - in mainstream historical analysis - the reason so many tunnels were created beneath England, particularly beneath eastern England during England's Civil War (seemingly a spat between elites).
Cromwell => Chroma well => coloured well => medicated well => poisoned well.
The house at the centre of this administrative crisis still stands (Google Maps), (Google Streetview), though its well has been filled in.
It is foolish to throw a tortured, virgin boy-child's presumably bleeding body down the well in the cellar of your house. Your water will taste funny. And think of the stink.
But not if 'well' is a euphemism for 'part of a tunnel complex'. This post evidenced the existence and denial of tunnels beneath England, while this post analysed their characteristics. It is very possible that this 'well' was:
- large, and
- part of the subterranean tunnel and conduit network still rumoured to lie beneath Lincoln.
The Stamford well was subsequently filled in and the Mercury dismissed local rumours that it had been part of a tunnel to the nearest church (St Mary's (Google Maps), (Google Streetview). However, it did not address the commonsense observation that nobody puts up the money to dig a well 12 feet wide just to haul up a few buckets of water every day. Nor the cost of lining it with the fine quality masonry arches reported in this well.
The Stamford well sounds more like a smaller version of this:
than this:
Summary:
The Little Saint Hugh story looks like a very modified, very limited hang-out, complete with a choice of added scapegoats. The tale seems to reflect a human public's outrage after about a century of overt child blood-letting and killing in Lincoln, Norwich, York, and perhaps many other cities. Wakipedia's claim the killing was made up to encourage pilgrim tourism may be true but the tale may just as easily rework a true story of the outrage and then the suppression of an angry human population. Perhaps it was whitewashed into a simple incident and then exploited to generate pilgrim traffic, relic sales, etc, along with medical tourism, which the Hospital of the Holy Innocents and St Sepulchre's relied on. And it wasn't bad for the marketplace next door.
If this sounds as though it's all about the money, well yes. But consider this: in 1466 - after nearly three centuries of continual conflict with the city's sheriff, the city's residents, and with the king (or other 'authorities' - it's not clear), and with continual 'mismanagement' of its accounts requiring ongoing public bail-outs - the Hospital of the Holy Innocents was given to the Burton Lazars'-based (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) Order of the Knights of St Lazarus - who are described as militant monks with a thing about
Per Burton Lazars - Wikipedia:
That's not so odd - repeatedly going bust and being bailed out is still a widely-used business model. The Knights of St Lazarus - having returned from the Second Crusades - began in 1146 to expand their leper hospital franchise throughout Britain. Remember, 1146 was two years before the 1148 Lincoln hospital mergers and product shift from caring for the old and poor to caring for
So it is very possible - and even historians speculate this - that Lincoln's 1148 hospital mergers marked the initial expansion of a Knights of St Lazarus leper-care business. It's also clear that from then on, pretty much everyone nearby subsidised the business until it was handed back to the order in 1466. And that's subsidised with lost water, fishing and grazing rights, as well as with money, and seemingly, with blood and children. You can see how the Lazarites would become rich and why the people of Lincoln would become pissed.
And then there's the brothel.
From http://www.heritageconnectlincoln.com/lara-raz/the-malandry-hospital-of-the-holy-innocents/1007
In other words, both documentation and building remains suggest the hospital's product offer shifted from water medicated with infant blood to 'room rental'. In 1906, one Sister Elspeth wrote that in1340:
We can see that the phrase:
might just as reasonably be written as:
If you think I am stretching the brothel connection too far, consider this: in 1544 the Hospital of the Holy Innocents complex was surrendered to the Crown (presumably the British Crown) and quickly landed in the hands of William Cecil. He is the entity we know as Lord Burghley, Queen Elizabeth I's adviser. 24 years old in 1544, and apparently between wives, he is the entity whose edge-of-Stamford hospitals and old ladies' homes were previously analysed as having been brothels.
'Paying female guests' may seem out of kilter with a brothel but we learned in the short video clip at the end of this post that renting rooms to freelance ladies - not to their customers - helps reduce brothel management's exposure to the legal (and, presumably, reputational) liabilities inherent in the business.
There's plenty more but I think where you go from here should depend on your interests. So, tying up loose ends:
Evidence:
Sister Elspeth's 1906 Victoria County Histories description of the Hospital of the Holy Innocents lists complaints that today's historians seem to ignore. I've summarised them, with other complaints, in purple. Feel free to skip over if you don't need convincing.
Sample complaints made against the Hospital of the Holy Innocents or St Catherine's Priory:
From MLI70159 - Site of the Holy Innocents leper hospital, South Park, Lincoln
From MLI87084 - Site of St Catherine's Priory and St Sepulchre's Hospital, Lincoln
From http://www.heritageconnectlincoln.com/lara-raz/st-katherines-priory-and-st-sepulchres-hospital/1004
Summary: They were neighbours from Hell - a complaint common about abbeys, priories, monasteries and baronetcies across England.
Did a mudflood intervene?
From MLI87084 - Site of St Catherine's Priory and St Sepulchre's Hospital, Lincoln
and
Two depopulations appear to have taken Lincolnshire from being one of the most densely populated counties in England in 1086 to its current rank among the least densely populated. Reading 18th and early 19th century descriptions of the county - Stukeley, Grimm, Oliver - you get the impression that new incomers are digging out the many remains of an older, buried population and establishing themselves among a scattering of rural 'aboriginals'.
The pork pie business:
Per the above leprosy water treatment link, we see one form of leprosy produces facial growths. And per the Burton Lazars link above, the Knights of St Lazarus also built a hospital on a hill near Burton Lazars, Leicestershire. That could be the origins of what is now Melton Mowbray Hospital (Google Maps), (Google Streetview). I flagged possible problems with the origin of Melton Mowbray pork pies in this post. And that was before stumbling across these observations by a former Melton Mowbray resident. If you live in Melton Mowbray, Covid may be the least of your worries.
Chronologically, what came next?
Where did 400 years of 'hospital' earnings go? Its management seems to have gone to Switzerland and mountainous French Savoie. But some of the properties and assets fell - cheaply - into the hands of new aristocrats whose names are familiar to alt-history researchers. A new management layer. We touched on Cecil. We'll touch on one more.
Some twelve miles south of the Hospital of the Holy Innocents is Dunston Pillar (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) - the remains of the 'pleasure garden' built for Francis 'HellFire Club' Dashwood:
Another goblet. Hope that's red wine.
Wakipedia describes Dashwood as a 'rake'. Very popular with 18th Century elites, Dunston Pillar pleasure gardens boasted dining rooms, a bowling green, a hunting park, and a peculiar
The view of what?
You ride out of town... that's when the real demented shit begins. Source: Westworld s01, ep01
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I'm a bit late to the party and I'm only now catching up on these crazy but fascinating threads - amazing work. (Surprisingly funny too, given the dark subject matter.) I'm just going to post a bunch of random comments/responses to things that struck me.
(I'm responding to posts in the original thread that this was split from: Cannibalism in humans, Great Apes, Prion diseases, and mRNA therapy)
Amazing words combinations it that post.
I would add that 'Eucharist' sounds very much like 'thank you' in Greek. So a different interpretation could be something like:
"I am Christ, eat my body, drink my blood, thank you!"
Which then made me think of this:
View: https://youtu.be/bAF35dekiAY?t=73
"It was decided to cut through the whole tangled problem, by breeding an animal that actually wanted to be eaten and was capable of saying so clearly and distinctly. And here I am!"
If this is anything like the reality that occurred, this could also help explain something about our present, ready acceptance of any authorities (at least by most people, maybes not around here so much). Perhaps wanting to believe that stories or fairy tales were a sort of psychological coping mechanism - a kind of life-raft that we cling to to ignore the reality. So, perversely, the worse the trauma is the more we are accept the story provided by the authority that did it, as it allows us a form of mental escape. And that we have a formed a habit of accepting stories because of traumas.
(I'm responding to posts in the original thread that this was split from: Cannibalism in humans, Great Apes, Prion diseases, and mRNA therapy)
Amazing words combinations it that post.
I would add that 'Eucharist' sounds very much like 'thank you' in Greek. So a different interpretation could be something like:
"I am Christ, eat my body, drink my blood, thank you!"
Which then made me think of this:
View: https://youtu.be/bAF35dekiAY?t=73
"It was decided to cut through the whole tangled problem, by breeding an animal that actually wanted to be eaten and was capable of saying so clearly and distinctly. And here I am!"
If this is anything like the reality that occurred, this could also help explain something about our present, ready acceptance of any authorities (at least by most people, maybes not around here so much). Perhaps wanting to believe that stories or fairy tales were a sort of psychological coping mechanism - a kind of life-raft that we cling to to ignore the reality. So, perversely, the worse the trauma is the more we are accept the story provided by the authority that did it, as it allows us a form of mental escape. And that we have a formed a habit of accepting stories because of traumas.
Wow, feralimal, you've taken it to an unmistaken reality with your attached video. I too would rather have the green salad, and with it a glass of water, thanks.
The willingness to be culled, or the psychological acceptance of one's harvesting to benefit others is one of the creepier things to contemplate. It's hard not to see that surrendering to the covaids jab is of the same ilk. People seem to be programmed to off themselves when required by their handlers. It's not so overt as in the video, but there is some kind of acquiescing going on with people laying themselves down willingly. It must be part of the hidden human story of why we were created. It's not all about god's unsoiled creatures, it's about a malleable creature who can be taken advantage of.
I suppose it can also be a story of individuals rising above this programming and escaping from this insanity, back to god. But in equal measure it's also a story of people unconsciously surrendering to the slaughterhouse.
It's our choice...
Maybe this thing we call reality is the restaurant at the end of the universe.
It is indeed a bizarre existence once all of these things have been contemplated, the compliance of the herd to follow the leader to the edge of the cliff and beyond is a very strange phenomenon and I think it is as mentioned above due to trauma, or i should say the perceived trauma that can occur when one fears being separated from the heard, whether natured or nurtured it seems to over ride not only the logic circuits but also the instinctual drives.
I guess we need to ask ourselves if the need to cannibalise our fellow man arrises form a need to stay alive, for nutritional purposes, a need to control or limit the growth of a perceived enemy or is it simply a pleasurable pastime that has benefits that some thought would be not point in throwing away.
Life was a little bizarre for me before but this thread has seemed to amplify that.
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You might be interested to know that it was during Cromwell's time subduing Ireland, that there was a massive trade to England of Irish skulls to be powdered and for the skull moss. ( Did I already mention this before?)
So many of them were left uninterred outside that they grew said moss.
There was one nobleman in particular in northern Ireland who apparently had lined a road with thousands of the skulls of those he slaughtered.
I'm sorry, I didn't keep the link when I read it and now can't find it.
Just amazing research Ussello.
I especially like that you have extensively scoured this site and found much relevant information. This site is so important as a repository for all our combined findings in all areas and you have shown exactly why. Great work, I haven't been keeping up with this thread and you've just gobsmacked me reading through today!
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Thanks - appreciate the kudos.
I've looked online for references to the avenue of skulls but not found it. It was easier to find material on the therapeutic uses of skull moss. Eg: https://hekint.org/2019/08/29/cranium-the-symbolic-powers-of-the-skull/
Good for epilepsy and as a styptic. Must check Superdrug.
I got some feedback that my last post was a little dense to read. Apologies for that. It was a tough one to write, what with there being so many tempting leads lying around. I should probably get some sales management software to start keeping my investigation prospects in better order.
This thread has got me thinking if the official murder and violent crime stats in Western countries can really be trusted. The official narrative is that murder and violence is Western countries is at all time low rates and that Western countries have basically never been safer in all of human history than they are now.
Yet how can this really be trusted? It seems to me that most people just take the government's word for it because they publish some statistics each year that most people assume to be accurate and truthful. It seems to me that it would be in the interests of the powers that be to create the impression that murder and violence rates are extremely low and an almost insignificant issue, because then most people would not think about and investigate these issues very deeply and therefore the activities of the powers that be would go unscrutinised.
It seems to me that people have no real way of knowing if they live in a safe environment or a dangerous one. All they know is what the government choses to tell them and consequently feel safe if the government tells them it's safe, or feel unsafe if the government tells them it's unsafe.
Yet how can this really be trusted? It seems to me that most people just take the government's word for it because they publish some statistics each year that most people assume to be accurate and truthful. It seems to me that it would be in the interests of the powers that be to create the impression that murder and violence rates are extremely low and an almost insignificant issue, because then most people would not think about and investigate these issues very deeply and therefore the activities of the powers that be would go unscrutinised.
It seems to me that people have no real way of knowing if they live in a safe environment or a dangerous one. All they know is what the government choses to tell them and consequently feel safe if the government tells them it's safe, or feel unsafe if the government tells them it's unsafe.
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No - the stats cannot be trusted. Nor can the stories be trusted.
It is far better to think of these public pronouncements as part of the story, in order to immediately move people towards the next step of the plan. All these actions/stats/pronouncements are only valuable for their immediate 'cash value'; truth has nothing to do with it and the information can be re-interpreted tomorrow. The masses do not check on what they are told nor do they care. This is the core problem with any historical analysis - what is presented to us, is only what is expedient to manage us in the present. It is not about attempting to present truth, in some eternal way, it is about presenting today's truth. Its all very 1984.
So as not to derail this too much, this also relates to why I like this thread so much. Usselo (and others) are presenting evidence that can be verified personally, there is no acceptance of the given narratives, and we are off-piste with regards to the standard narrative.
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- Gilles de Rais Imagery
- Gilles de Rais quick reads:
- 10 Details About Gilles de Rais: Pedophile, Satanist, Murderer... Or the Most Misjudged Man in History
- Gilles De Rais, The Child Serial Killer Who Fought Alongside Joan Of Arc Bear in mind that Joan of Arc appears to be an artifact parallel with Emilie Plater: Сбой в матрице или параллели истории (Russian) (Google English translation)
- Papers about Gilles de Rais
- Books about Gilles de Rais
- Various Gilles de Rais pieces via Metager search engine
Discussion - in Russian - of sanitation appearing to be an afterthought in old buildings: Единая планетарная архитектура 200 лет назад (Google English translation)
Oracle said:
More on skull moss: Мумиё. Ё - моё.. (in Russian) (Google English translation)
Skull moss is possibly related to a medical treatment called mumiyo/shilajit (in English):
- 7 Benefits of Mumiyo ( Shilajit )
- The Only Objective Source of Information About Shilajit and Mumijo
Is the word 'humus' rooted in the word 'humans'?
Looking at the wider IHASFEMR possibilities... My conjecture has been that the church/state was a front for a profit-focused human meat and body parts trade; that this trade arose 1,000 years ago in response to flooding and subsequent famine. I focused on evidence found in England and North-West Europe.
Other physical evidence, and supporting folklore, suggests there is more to all this than a business opportunity in human body parts. That evidence is not in this thread because it needs a lot of organising and formatting.
However, it turns out a LiveJournal blog poster called Selenadia already did a lot of the work in 2013. And without limiting themselves to British and North West European evidence. They interpreted physical and symbolic evidence to show that non-humans have:
- Parasitised humans and other Earth life,
- Created creatures with desired attributes, instilling those properties in other creatures, and
- Are preparing to become public, while maintaining their existing place at the top of Earth's lifeform hierarchy:
- institutionalised eating and processing of human-sourced material, and
- managed human genetic breeding facilities, and
- organised human participation via religions. And that
- they did/do this on behalf of non-human 'ghouls', who
- have a long-term goal and
- a program to achieve that goal,
- which we are in.
The posts are all in Russian. I've provided very brief English summaries here and Google translation links. Or you can browse them with Chromium and use its built-in translation mechanism.
1. This first post picks up from the last of Selenadia's missing posts by presenting evidence for 'primal Edema' bio-engineering facilities - facilities now known as historic cultural centres. It says bioengineered 'brewing' continues today.
Как нелюди затваривали мир. Часть I. (Google English translation)
2. Evidence that non-humans used ionisation and human bio matter ('frothy blood') to blend themselves into humans. References Christ's blood, communion, bleeding on the cross.
Как нелюди затваривали мир. Ч.2 (Google English translation)
3. Sarcophagi as containers for transporting and distributing bio-engineered material to humans as part of 'fertility rites'
Как нелюди затваривали мир. Ч.3 (Google English translation)
4. More sarcophagi; examples of museum sarcophagi exhibits (copies) that 'neglect' important sarcophagi features. Old stone statues are often hollow, and associated with (or marketed as) fertility enablers:
Как нелюди затваривали мир.Ч.4 (Google English translation)
5. Examples of drilled stone objects from around the world, some of which leaked brownish bio-material:
Как нелюди затваривали мир. Ч. II/1 (Google English translation)
6. Interpretations of various commonly-found animal symbols on old stone objects; central and southern American ruins are relics of destroyed experiments with human cultures. Focus of experiments has shifted to the Middle East:
Как нелюди затваривали мир. Ч. II/2 (Google English translation)
7. More on Middle Eastern disasters; interpretations of Middle Eastern ancient symbols as depictions of bio-engineering. Including the eight-pointed or eight-rayed star:
Как нелюди затваривали мир. Ч. II/3 (Google English translation)
8. Non-humans' Russian governmental representatives covering up current Siberian bio-engineered genocide; zombies, cannibalism, ossuaries (well-known and obscure):
Как нелюди затваривали мир. Ч. III/1 (Google English translation)
9. Orthodox church has ossuaries. Non-church ossuaries exist in different forms around the world. Post details example from Cambodia's Khmer Rouge. Highlights problems with evidence from Cambodia and Tuol Sleng prison to suggest the Khmer Rouge operation was a cover for biomaterial harvesting/genocide:
Как нелюди затваривали мир. Ч. III/2 (Google English translation)
10. More analysis of Cambodia/Khmer Rouge; origin/meaning of various double-headed symbols;
Как нелюди затваривали мир. Ч. III/3 (Google English translation)
All the above pages were collected into one:
Как нелюди затваривали мир. Продолжение тем "апокалипсиса" и "первоэдема" | Русские мы (Google English translation)
Plenty to digest there.
Returning to this thread's original proposition of North West European floods and famines being written out of English history and written in Belgian/Dutch/German/history as smaller events, we have evidence that entities called 'Peter' were perceived as a hungry, god-like entity:
Beacons of Nordfriesland
And more on North Sea flood events at https://frisiacoasttrail.blog/2020/10/14/half-a-million-deaths-a-forgotten-north-sea-disaster/ which enhances Paul Budde's Belgian/Dutch flood + famine event list at: Climate Change, Floods, Famine and the Black Death – Paul Budde History, Philosophy, Culture
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Tim Cullen takes on mainstream history's chronology of North-West European floods. The PDF is linked to at Finistere Catastrophes Chronology, where the comments are worth reading.
Cullen's significant flood years are:
Moving back one flood, Tim Cullen has also presented evidence of 'a dreadful storm' or major sea 'trangression' into mainland England around 1287. And 1285 AD is cited in I G Simmons of Durham (UK) University Geography department's study of sea level change and flood defences in east Lincolnshire:, which notes in Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : Section 3 - Comparisons - Durham University:
Translation:
Side-note: Only a coincidence theorist would notice the 1291 sea level rise is close to England's first 'Dissolution': the 1308-1312 dissolution of the Knights Templar and Knights of St Lazarus - whose mudflooded monasteries were inherited by the Knights Hospitaller. Or that from 1538 onwards, the remains of the Thorney site were leased to 'Walter Williams or Crumwell of Chatteris'; Chatteris being located between the various farms inherited and acquired by Oliver Cromwell.
The Durham team have plenty more for flood nerds:
Do we have have evidence of earthquakes around these flood years?
Musson's The seismicity of the British Isles to 1600 reviewed early British earthquake reports. It supports major earthquake events around the same times as Cullen's and Simmons floods, though not 708. It's interesting reading: for some unexplored reason, Britain and parts of north-west Europe experienced wide area earthquakes in medieval times. Then they stopped.
Why then? And why not now? Do earthquake zones migrate? Do they come and go?
Orthodoxy says the Romans left Britain in the fifth century. Alt-history says the Pompeii evidence points to a Roman ending around 1631. We can leave orthodoxy for the orthodox and instead, ask ourselves if the disappearance of the Romans from Britain might be connected to the medieval earthquakes.
Perhaps the onset of the Little Ice Age was also connected in some way. Perhaps to Romans' disappearance (or their transformatinon into something else), perhaps to the flooding, perhaps to the Welland's silting up, perhaps to the shortage of labour afterwards.
From Little Ice Age by Michael Mann:
Interesting that Switzerland should start to see cold weather about the time (ten years later) that this bizarre statue (mentioned earlier) was erected in Berne, Switzerland:
Perhaps flood-fearing entities set themselves up in Switzerland around that time. Or perhaps they used climate freezing as part of quarrying operations.
Not far from Thorney and ten miles north of the mudflooded 'Roman' port of Castor (Durobrivae) - featured in SH Archive - Clueless Historians in Castor, UK: Roman this, Roman that... - is Stamford. While Durobrivae was a major Roman port until it was mudflooded, Stamford was a major medieval port until its river - the River Welland -silted up was blocked by 'mill builders' some time before 1571. The link describes how the Stamford Canal was built to reconnect silted Stamford to the sea via a port at Market Deeping, six miles downstream. The Stamford Canal has a puzzling history.
It's puzzling because:
Possibly, the puzzles are simply that the Stamford Canal was an early attempt by the English to build an ambitious, 12-lock canal at the start of a crop-killing, people-killing Little Ice Age, just as John Dee and colleagues discover science, maths and navigation and Britain's elites begin colonising the world.
Possibly, the canal was an existing mudflooded canal that was partially dug out, in which case the delays might have been due to post-flood shortages of any kind of human labour. Or shortages of the skills required to repair and/or build 12 canal locks. Or both.
Regardless, once finished, Stamford's new canal joined the River Welland a mile west of Market Deeping. Most of what remains today is dry except for the last mile or so before it joins the River Welland. Maps mark its remains as 'River Welland', though it is obviously a cut-off canal - its course is straighter and its waters are visibly slower flowing than the Welland's.
That's where another puzzle emerges. For about half a mile before reaching the two bridges that cross the two watercourses, northbound drivers on the A15 Market Deeping bypass get the impression they are driving uphill. Checked on a topographical map, it turns out they are correct. They are driving uphill towards a canal and a river.
It's reasonable for a canal's course to follow higher ground. It is not reasonable for a natural river's course to follow higher ground. The video below shows the two Wellands' routes over high ground (lighter blue), skirting lower ground (deeper blue verging on purple) to their right. The Stamford Canal and the River Welland emerge at bottom left and flow diagonally up and to the right (north east) before turning right (east) and meeting up just inside the A15 bypass.
Mouse cursor 'taps' show the height above sea level in each location (in feet).
The most reasonable explanation is that the River Welland was also canalised and forced to join the Stamford Canal rather than take its natural course across the low ground to east-south-east. That would suggest an effort to create a well-watered 'river' port on higher ground at Market Deeping.
Perhaps the canal's missing documentation would explain the River Welland's seemingly artificial course. But it would be a breakthrough if its documentation were found because the River Welland isn't the only Lincolnshire river with an 'enigmatic' course. In fact, the Welland is one of the few Lincolnshire rivers whose enigmatic course has not already been puzzled over in some geographer's academic paper.
Market Deeping also boasts a few puzzles of its own. It's eastern extension - upmarket Deeping St James - has a former market cross with the remains of a small gaol (jail) built into its base. With:
Jail? Or a market day pen for small, sentient produce and slaves?
Market Deeping's central market cross is one of 10,000 (out of around 12,000) crosses that were destroyed by alleged 'iconoclasts' in the 16th and 17th centuries (Source).
Just like nearby Stamford, Market Deeping seems remarkably well-connected to English royalty. From the same source as the above image:
Condensing other parts of that page:
And - again from the same source - what provoked Elizabeth I to order a survey of her lands in East Deeping in 1538?
But that page may also hold a clue to the missing Stamford Canal documentation, the gravity-defying course of the River Welland and the possibility that Market Deeping was created around an artificially created river port:
You really should be concerned at finding another reference to a Norman 'garden of pleasure', but at least we now have a provisional explanation for the apparent canalisation of the River Welland. And a competing build date for the Stamford Canal, not to mention Market Deeping itself: during the first two decades of the 12th Century.
Now that is counter-narrative!
Another mystery is how some of Market Deeping's old stone houses acquired their cute, but unfeasibly low, front doors. The image shows one of a handful of Deeping doors that are about 5 ft, one inch high. The striped pole in the image is 2 m (6 ft, 6 in) long - more or less the same height as a standard modern door.
Deeping is well-known for its low front doors. It is not well-known for its tall front doors. That's because their original height has been hidden.
A couple of houses up the street from the cute-doored house above is the White Horse pub. Its doorway has been shortened with a crude stone infill:
What would we find if we removed the grandiose triangular portico affair above the infill? Would we find the original doorway was even higher than the top edge of the visible infill?
Before we explore a possible answer to that question, let's note that shrinking front doors are common all over eastern England. Usually these front doorways are arched. In poorer buildings - those whose front door opens directly on to the street - their original height has been reduced by a plywood cover-board nailed to a poorly-fitting wood frame. In posher buildings - meaning: buildings with front gardens - the door height has usually been reduced with well-fitting glass 'fanlights'.
From Glemsford, Suffolk:
Some have been reduced with a brick infill. An example from Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk:
Build an arch, lay bricks beneath it
If you get bored of English doors, try Doors for Giants (Russian), (English translation). But if you aren't bored, let's go back to Market Deeping and see if we can find any clues about what was might have been hidden behind the White Horse's portico.
About 250 yards south of the White Horse is this building. An inscription in the wooden lintel about window dates it to "Anno Domini 1640":
The striped pole shows this doorway is 3m (10 ft) high. A stable door perhaps? The average stable door is 2.085m (6 ft, 10 in) high. The shorter door at the far end of the stone building is part of a later extension or rebuild. The even shorter blue door (in the white building at the left of the image) is modern standard door height.
Once you develop an eye for how door heights have been discretely reduced, you find them everywhere, at least in eastern England. Like English churches, they are a ubiquitous feature of the built environment. And like almost all English churches - their construction history is missing.
A bit like the Stamford Canal.
England's built environment is like a stage-set, a stage-set hastily adapted for people our size. Why is it like this? Is something being hidden?
Given that flood events are also missing from English history but somewhat present in Belgian, Dutch and German history, and given that the Dutch flood accounts often report floods as having been worse in England, is it possible that England's floods involved realities that have also been hidden?
The same flood years - and later on, fire years - come up time and time again. The same mysterious gaps in documentation and the same explanations come up time and time again. Summarising what the clues left at the scene say about climate and chronology, they seem to say: sea levels rose from 1285 onwards, until a 1540 flood event. That event was a cold, wet start to a multi-year process that seems to have culminated in the late 18th century with fire and fighting. And perhaps these processes led to our current level of 'freedom'.
Animal Farm by George Orwell. First paragraph
Key entities in Animal Farm:
Cullen's significant flood years are:
- 807 AD
- 1172 AD
- 1287 AD
- 1570 AD
Moving back one flood, Tim Cullen has also presented evidence of 'a dreadful storm' or major sea 'trangression' into mainland England around 1287. And 1285 AD is cited in I G Simmons of Durham (UK) University Geography department's study of sea level change and flood defences in east Lincolnshire:, which notes in Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : Section 3 - Comparisons - Durham University:
When reading Victoria County History records, you'll often find variants of this chronology of the prosperity of Thorney Abbey, Cambridgeshire:Translation:
Side-note: Only a coincidence theorist would notice the 1291 sea level rise is close to England's first 'Dissolution': the 1308-1312 dissolution of the Knights Templar and Knights of St Lazarus - whose mudflooded monasteries were inherited by the Knights Hospitaller. Or that from 1538 onwards, the remains of the Thorney site were leased to 'Walter Williams or Crumwell of Chatteris'; Chatteris being located between the various farms inherited and acquired by Oliver Cromwell.
The Durham team have plenty more for flood nerds:
- Various sea level rises. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : Appendix 2.1.A Weather, Climate, Sea-Level and Floods in Medieval Times - Durham University
- More sea level rise and flood dates. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : 2.2 From 1100 - 1500: The Coast - Durham University
- Notes odd lack of records of flood destruction but later notes that reports of lost harbours (havens) provide clues to flooding events. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : 2.2 From 1100 - 1500: The Coast - Durham University. See also section: 2.2.2.3 Other Havens? and 2.2.2.4 General Observations on Havens
- Dutch term for wind-driven high water is 'water-wolf'. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : Section 3 - Comparisons - Durham University (Lincolnshire has 'supernatural wolf' mythology)
Do we have have evidence of earthquakes around these flood years?
Musson's The seismicity of the British Isles to 1600 reviewed early British earthquake reports. It supports major earthquake events around the same times as Cullen's and Simmons floods, though not 708. It's interesting reading: for some unexplored reason, Britain and parts of north-west Europe experienced wide area earthquakes in medieval times. Then they stopped.
Why then? And why not now? Do earthquake zones migrate? Do they come and go?
Orthodoxy says the Romans left Britain in the fifth century. Alt-history says the Pompeii evidence points to a Roman ending around 1631. We can leave orthodoxy for the orthodox and instead, ask ourselves if the disappearance of the Romans from Britain might be connected to the medieval earthquakes.
Perhaps the onset of the Little Ice Age was also connected in some way. Perhaps to Romans' disappearance (or their transformatinon into something else), perhaps to the flooding, perhaps to the Welland's silting up, perhaps to the shortage of labour afterwards.
From Little Ice Age by Michael Mann:
Interesting that Switzerland should start to see cold weather about the time (ten years later) that this bizarre statue (mentioned earlier) was erected in Berne, Switzerland:
Perhaps flood-fearing entities set themselves up in Switzerland around that time. Or perhaps they used climate freezing as part of quarrying operations.
Not far from Thorney and ten miles north of the mudflooded 'Roman' port of Castor (Durobrivae) - featured in SH Archive - Clueless Historians in Castor, UK: Roman this, Roman that... - is Stamford. While Durobrivae was a major Roman port until it was mudflooded, Stamford was a major medieval port until its river - the River Welland -
It's puzzling because:
- There are no engineering documents for the canal and few documents of any other kind related to it.
- There are quicker, cheaper ways to deal with watermills blocking trade to a major port (and their owners) than by hand-building a six mile, 12-lock canal.
- The canal's construction was legislated for in 1571 - 50 years before work actually began. Work was delayed due lack of contractors with canal-building skills.
- Once started, the canal took a century to finish.
- The canal's completion occurred 100 years before Britain's Industrial Revolution, making it one of the first canals dug in Britain after the Romans left.
Possibly, the puzzles are simply that the Stamford Canal was an early attempt by the English to build an ambitious, 12-lock canal at the start of a crop-killing, people-killing Little Ice Age, just as John Dee and colleagues discover science, maths and navigation and Britain's elites begin colonising the world.
Possibly, the canal was an existing mudflooded canal that was partially dug out, in which case the delays might have been due to post-flood shortages of any kind of human labour. Or shortages of the skills required to repair and/or build 12 canal locks. Or both.
Regardless, once finished, Stamford's new canal joined the River Welland a mile west of Market Deeping. Most of what remains today is dry except for the last mile or so before it joins the River Welland. Maps mark its remains as 'River Welland', though it is obviously a cut-off canal - its course is straighter and its waters are visibly slower flowing than the Welland's.
That's where another puzzle emerges. For about half a mile before reaching the two bridges that cross the two watercourses, northbound drivers on the A15 Market Deeping bypass get the impression they are driving uphill. Checked on a topographical map, it turns out they are correct. They are driving uphill towards a canal and a river.
It's reasonable for a canal's course to follow higher ground. It is not reasonable for a natural river's course to follow higher ground. The video below shows the two Wellands' routes over high ground (lighter blue), skirting lower ground (deeper blue verging on purple) to their right. The Stamford Canal and the River Welland emerge at bottom left and flow diagonally up and to the right (north east) before turning right (east) and meeting up just inside the A15 bypass.
Mouse cursor 'taps' show the height above sea level in each location (in feet).
The most reasonable explanation is that the River Welland was also canalised and forced to join the Stamford Canal rather than take its natural course across the low ground to east-south-east. That would suggest an effort to create a well-watered 'river' port on higher ground at Market Deeping.
Perhaps the canal's missing documentation would explain the River Welland's seemingly artificial course. But it would be a breakthrough if its documentation were found because the River Welland isn't the only Lincolnshire river with an 'enigmatic' course. In fact, the Welland is one of the few Lincolnshire rivers whose enigmatic course has not already been puzzled over in some geographer's academic paper.
Market Deeping also boasts a few puzzles of its own. It's eastern extension - upmarket Deeping St James - has a former market cross with the remains of a small gaol (jail) built into its base. With:
Jail? Or a market day pen for small, sentient produce and slaves?
Market Deeping's central market cross is one of 10,000 (out of around 12,000) crosses that were destroyed by alleged 'iconoclasts' in the 16th and 17th centuries (Source).
Just like nearby Stamford, Market Deeping seems remarkably well-connected to English royalty. From the same source as the above image:
Condensing other parts of that page:
And - again from the same source - what provoked Elizabeth I to order a survey of her lands in East Deeping in 1538?
But that page may also hold a clue to the missing Stamford Canal documentation, the gravity-defying course of the River Welland and the possibility that Market Deeping was created around an artificially created river port:
You really should be concerned at finding another reference to a Norman 'garden of pleasure', but at least we now have a provisional explanation for the apparent canalisation of the River Welland. And a competing build date for the Stamford Canal, not to mention Market Deeping itself: during the first two decades of the 12th Century.
Now that is counter-narrative!
Another mystery is how some of Market Deeping's old stone houses acquired their cute, but unfeasibly low, front doors. The image shows one of a handful of Deeping doors that are about 5 ft, one inch high. The striped pole in the image is 2 m (6 ft, 6 in) long - more or less the same height as a standard modern door.
Deeping is well-known for its low front doors. It is not well-known for its tall front doors. That's because their original height has been hidden.
A couple of houses up the street from the cute-doored house above is the White Horse pub. Its doorway has been shortened with a crude stone infill:
What would we find if we removed the grandiose triangular portico affair above the infill? Would we find the original doorway was even higher than the top edge of the visible infill?
Before we explore a possible answer to that question, let's note that shrinking front doors are common all over eastern England. Usually these front doorways are arched. In poorer buildings - those whose front door opens directly on to the street - their original height has been reduced by a plywood cover-board nailed to a poorly-fitting wood frame. In posher buildings - meaning: buildings with front gardens - the door height has usually been reduced with well-fitting glass 'fanlights'.
From Glemsford, Suffolk:
Some have been reduced with a brick infill. An example from Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk:
Build an arch, lay bricks beneath it
If you get bored of English doors, try Doors for Giants (Russian), (English translation). But if you aren't bored, let's go back to Market Deeping and see if we can find any clues about what was might have been hidden behind the White Horse's portico.
About 250 yards south of the White Horse is this building. An inscription in the wooden lintel about window dates it to "Anno Domini 1640":
The striped pole shows this doorway is 3m (10 ft) high. A stable door perhaps? The average stable door is 2.085m (6 ft, 10 in) high. The shorter door at the far end of the stone building is part of a later extension or rebuild. The even shorter blue door (in the white building at the left of the image) is modern standard door height.
Once you develop an eye for how door heights have been discretely reduced, you find them everywhere, at least in eastern England. Like English churches, they are a ubiquitous feature of the built environment. And like almost all English churches - their construction history is missing.
A bit like the Stamford Canal.
England's built environment is like a stage-set, a stage-set hastily adapted for people our size. Why is it like this? Is something being hidden?
Given that flood events are also missing from English history but somewhat present in Belgian, Dutch and German history, and given that the Dutch flood accounts often report floods as having been worse in England, is it possible that England's floods involved realities that have also been hidden?
The same flood years - and later on, fire years - come up time and time again. The same mysterious gaps in documentation and the same explanations come up time and time again. Summarising what the clues left at the scene say about climate and chronology, they seem to say: sea levels rose from 1285 onwards, until a 1540 flood event. That event was a cold, wet start to a multi-year process that seems to have culminated in the late 18th century with fire and fighting. And perhaps these processes led to our current level of 'freedom'.
Key entities in Animal Farm:
- Jones = Géants = Giants
- Snowball = ? One possibility: Другая история Земли. Часть 1а. (Russian), (English translation). Perhaps 'Snowball' is a euphemism for that 1540 cold, wet start?
- Napoleon = Unconvincing historical figure(s), but perhaps a euphemism for the fire and fighting at the end of these processes?
- Manor Farm = ? Let's see...
- Chicken farm = A farm for chickens
- Sheep farm = A farm for sheep
- Cattle farm = A farm for cattle
- Deer farm - A farm for deer
- Fish farm = A farm for fish
- Oyster farm = A farm for oysters
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I'm not sure actually if it was online or in a book I downloaded. Hard to keep track when I read such a wide variety of subjects and little titbits like that occur in so many things I read on larger subjects.
Exit to add: I've finally caught up again although without following most links you've posted as it is late.
If you're researching floods if you haven't already read it, then reading the book Oera Linda might add to your knowledge.
Also with regard to earthquakes cycling, I've been researching catastrophism lately and I came across a guy who seems to have proved that yes they do and it's in relation to particular planetary alignments.
I'll look tomorrow night and see if I can find you a link.
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It is hard to keep track. It's got easier since I started using Obsidian. Took a while to get my head around it but it has been worth the effort. Especially for drafting posts that collect varied sources and multimedia.
So when YouTube destroys your carefully-crafted penknife gag by hiccuping the video of a sword-wielding Russian woman in a wine-bar embedded in post-10005, Obsidian helps you super-quickly find and upload the copy you made earlier. The full video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aqn7Umb-_Yh, but for the swordplay-hesitant, here's a short clip:
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Yes, I would appreciate a link to the planetary alignment => earthquake link if you can find it. I saw it in January but didn't appreciate its significance. And I'll take your advice on the Oera Linda. Skimming it, I'm most interested in the causes of the catastrophes it references. They are the elephants in the room. They've left huge footprints all over eastern England.
SH.org user Llend outlined a possible big picture explanation that seems to fit well:
- Our Timeline Could Be Much Shorter Than We Think: post 2100
- Our Timeline Could Be Much Shorter Than We Think: post 2112
Similarly, Akanah's reference to the North Sea in their post at SH Archive - A Faustian Bargain? The First Pope may well be relevant if it were unpacked a bit. That is just intuition speaking. A guess.
When I first posted the Market Deeping post above, I thought it was one of my crappiest. Except possibly for the supporting evidence it provided for Tim Cullen's and Simmons' flood dates. Having edited and added to it over the last week I'm hoping it is now much better. Read it carefully and perhaps you can:
- Begin to see why this part of England - the fens around ('The Wash' (Google Maps)) - produces so many inconsistencies. AKA 'reveals' or in card players' terms: 'tells'.
- Appreciate that something historically important about this part of England has been hidden.
But in case anyone else is thinking along these lines, I'm wondering about:- Why Lincolnshire was once the most densely populated county in England - before becoming almost the least densely populated.
- The oddness around the eight king Henries, especially the last one, who had six wives because... no son.
- Stuff credibility into a made-up history by rearranging the previous rulers from parallel kingdoms into a line of rulers that ended with no issue.
- Reduce the consistency problems - and legal risks - of the lies being found inconsistent with any surviving records, and
- "reconstruct a new landed aristocracy on the ruins of the old" (see here if you enjoy the detail)
It's a nutty story of course but it:
- Fills in the blanks in the inadequately explained end of England's seven 'Saxon' kingdoms.
- Fits with the strange mix of English vocabularies: eg Doggerel (AKA 'Anglo-Saxon') and French,
- Explains the possessions and interests of the Dukedoms, and
- explains the absurd history - and architecture - of places like Thorney (Google Maps), (Google Streetview). I mean, just read it.
- And much, much else.
Europe's North Sea coasts under a four meter sea-level rise
It's based on the second flood map in Paul Budde's North West Europe flood chronology (which Oracle referenced in the Cannibalism thread). The above flood map applies to England the same sea level rise that Budde's flood map shows as having inundated the Belgian and Dutch coasts:
The Durham University Geography team briefly mentioned the possibility of there having been seven or eight meter high floods in eastern England. That would look like this:
Europe's North Sea coasts under a seven meter sea-level rise
And, IIRC, they mention the possibility of a 12 m flood. That would look like this:
Europe's North Sea coasts under a 12 m sea-level rise
On the face of it, any of these floods were pretty bad news for Holland and less bad for England.
Though how bad depends what was in that part of England before 'Queen Mary' sat on the throne.
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I did find that reference I mentioned earlier some weeks ago, but haven't been here much and if you will forgive me dear Usselo, it is actually an important part of a thread I am working on with regard to recurring Cataclysms and human consciousness so I will hang on to it selfishly for now.
Yes,I was working on a thread for the Oera Linda book when sh.net began, specifically aimed at trying to correlate chronology of world flooding with it's story but it fell to the wayside ( although one day maybe I'll revisit that research which I still have ,uncompleted).It is hard to keep track. It's got easier since I started using Obsidian. Took a while to get my head around it but it has been worth the effort. Especially for drafting posts that collect varied sources and multimedia.
So when YouTube destroys your carefully-crafted penknife gag by hiccuping the video of a sword-wielding Russian woman in a wine-bar embedded in post-10005, Obsidian helps you super-quickly find and upload the copy you made earlier. The full video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aqn7Umb-_Yh, but for the swordplay-hesitant, here's a short clip:
Oracle said:
Yes, I would appreciate a link to the planetary alignment => earthquake link if you can find it. I saw it in January but didn't appreciate its significance. And I'll take your advice on the Oera Linda. Skimming it, I'm most interested in the causes of the catastrophes it references. They are the elephants in the room. They've left huge footprints all over eastern England.
SH.org user Llend outlined a possible big picture explanation that seems to fit well:
I don't know if Llend's proposition is correct or not. However, their high-level explanation is a good fit both for the evidence I've posted and for evidence I haven't. I don't know if SH.org's Llend is the same Llend that posts on this board.
- Our Timeline Could Be Much Shorter Than We Think: post 2100
- Our Timeline Could Be Much Shorter Than We Think: post 2112
Similarly, Akanah's reference to the North Sea in their post at SH Archive - A Faustian Bargain? The First Pope may well be relevant if it were unpacked a bit. That is just intuition speaking. A guess.
When I first posted the Market Deeping post above, I thought it was one of my crappiest. Except possibly for the supporting evidence it provided for Tim Cullen's and Simmons' flood dates. Having edited and added to it over the last week I'm hoping it is now much better. Read it carefully and perhaps you can:
I'd like more evidence before I go making outlandish claims.
- Begin to see why this part of England - the fens around ('The Wash' (Google Maps)) - produces so many inconsistencies. AKA 'reveals' or in card players' terms: 'tells'.
- Appreciate that something historically important about this part of England has been hidden.
It strikes me that if you were taking control of a devastated land that was previously seven kingdoms, then a practical approach to staking your claim might be to blend the memories and records of the seven pre-flood kings into one entity with six wives. This to:
- Why Lincolnshire was once the most densely populated county in England - before becoming almost the least densely populated.
- The oddness around the eight king Henries, especially the last one, who had six wives because... no son.
So, from a history fabricator's perspective: rewrite the receding sea - (sea in Romance languages: Mar/Mare => Marie) - as a short-term royal phenomenon called Queen Mary; have her preceded by a single larger-than-life king (Henry VIII); have her succeeded by Queen Elizabeth I, and with that you are ready to sail out and colonise a drowned world complete with a new history. A duct-taped history, but intact and good enough for a new nation to rally around.
- Stuff credibility into a made-up history by rearranging the previous rulers from parallel kingdoms into a line of rulers that ended with no issue.
- Reduce the consistency problems - and legal risks - of the lies being found inconsistent with any surviving records, and
- "reconstruct a new landed aristocracy on the ruins of the old" (see here if you enjoy the detail)
It's a nutty story of course but it:
Visually, the key to understanding it is this:
- Fills in the blanks in the inadequately explained end of England's seven 'Saxon' kingdoms.
- Fits with the strange mix of English vocabularies: eg Doggerel (AKA 'Anglo-Saxon') and French,
- Explains the possessions and interests of the Dukedoms, and
- explains the absurd history - and architecture - of places like Thorney (Google Maps), (Google Streetview). I mean, just read it.
- And much, much else.
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Europe's North Sea coasts under a four meter sea-level rise
It's based on the second flood map in Paul Budde's North West Europe flood chronology (which Oracle referenced in the Cannibalism thread). The above flood map applies to England the same sea level rise that Budde's flood map shows as having inundated the Belgian and Dutch coasts:
The Durham University Geography team briefly mentioned the possibility of there having been seven or eight meter high floods in eastern England. That would look like this:
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Europe's North Sea coasts under a seven meter sea-level rise
And, IIRC, they mention the possibility of a 12 m flood. That would look like this:
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Europe's North Sea coasts under a 12 m sea-level rise
On the face of it, any of these floods were pretty bad news for Holland and less bad for England.
Though how bad depends what was in that part of England before 'Queen Mary' sat on the throne.
I did find that reference I mentioned earlier some weeks ago, but haven't been here much and if you will forgive me dear Usselo, it is actually an important part of a thread I am working on with regard to recurring Cataclysms and human consciousness so I will hang on to it selfishly for now.
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