Evidence humans were created and traded as slaves, food, entertainment and material resources (IHASFEMR)

[usselo]

I did find that reference I mentioned earlier some weeks ago, but haven't been here much and if you will forgive me dear Usselo, it is actually an important part of a thread I am working on with regard to recurring Cataclysms and human consciousness so I will hang on to it selfishly for now.

Not a problem!

Now catching up on unresponded comments...

6079smithw said:

Thos thread is depressing and very disturbing.
Ps, someone refers to the observation deck homeless man video. I couldn't find it on youtube - has it been purged?

The video 6079smithw referred to (was in this post) and is now unavailable. This clip shows the relevant part:

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Confrontation over homeless man taken away, declared dead. Source: Observation Deck. YT channel

The above footage emerged around the time 'opt-out' organ harvesting became UK law (22 May 2020), along with the following reassurance:

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"There was an absolutely extraordinary response", Regime Empath Louise Casey. Source

I asked a homeless guy - let's call him Chris - if he had been 'brought in' during the Covid lockdowns. Chris said he and his mates had got as far away as they could, apparently fleeing into the countryside.

When they came back, he pitched his tent out of sight in woods on the edge of town. At 3AM, the police turfed him out. He said:

Why did it have to be 3AM? Why not 6AM?

A rhetorical question, but it does have an answer:

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We know who they are and where they are living. UK Housing Secretary Robert Jendrick. Source

Jendrick went on to say rough sleepers will be introduced to the private rental sector. That probably won't turn out well given the state's own white papers about problems with the private rental sector.

In about 2015, UK entities like the Bank of England and think-tanks like the Rowntree Foundation were discussing obstacles to the introduction of a UK state digital currency. They wanted transactions to be linked to identifiable individuals. But to do that, all individuals had to be verifiably identified beforehand. One of the obstacles to this was the 'un-addressed'. On any given night, around 90,000 individuals were visibly sleeping rough. But up to 1.1m individuals were 'un-addressed'. These were identified as couch-surfers, workplace-sleepers and car/van sleepers. The invisible homeless.

It is conceivable that behind global lockdown's freezing of individual movement was an attempt to link various phone hardware and software identifiers, location-habits and contact-habits to un-addressed individuals on a global scale. Examined in this way, the above clip could be seen as Jendrick admitting the lockdown scheme had been 'largely' successful in the UK.

Although state/bank digital currencies are contentious, questions of the rightness or wrongness of digital currencies, state/bank digital currencies, central bank fiat-creation, etc, become small concerns when considered against the probability that humanity is being farmed and - judging by the experiences of people like Chris - farmed very poorly. Just my personal view.

As for Chris, he is still in a tent but - good news - he still has his organs.

Sapiot said:

Might be for sucking liquid, like a drinking straw. Maybe the saying to scramble your brain was because they literally did that, resulting in a soup or slurry.

Gypsum Fantastic said:

They... were on Earth to harvest humans for food. Stored in pink cocoons where the body slowly was turned into a pink/red gloopy substance, which they drank through straws like a milkshake. Daft as this all sounds could be another of Hollywood's 'hidden in plain sight', albeit in a completely exaggerated way of course.

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Note the bubbles in the blood. Source: Killer Clowns from Outer Space, 1988

This scene may not be completely exaggerated.

Another straw-sucking moment from Futurama:

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Futurama S01, Ep07

Some observations about Killer Clowns from Outer Space:

• The acting is hammy. Especially by the actors playing humans. Ham...
• The film's humans vary from hysterical to rigid-minded but all are generally a bit slow off the mark.
• The clowns work well individually and together.
• The humans are divided by poorly contained emotional impulses (love seeking, love conflicts) and workplace resentments.
• The clowns' physical appearance and bumbling gait makes them look clumsy but really, they are dexterous and very competent.
• The clowns are good at manipulating the environment to the point where they are having fun as they go about harvesting humans. That playful approach to their work is usually absent from human organisations.
• The clowns are notably good at chemistry, presumably enzyme chemistry.
• The clowns understand how humans think, feel, and how humans will react.
• The clowns tend to use stage-sets and stage effects to disorient and confuse humans. They understand this as an area of human weakness and the clowns exploit it.

And, with that last item in mind, perhaps consider reading the first part of this post again.

 

[DanFromMN]

Tim Cullen takes on mainstream history's chronology of North-West European floods. The PDF is linked to at Finistere Catastrophes Chronology, where the comments are worth reading.

Cullen's significant flood years are:

• 807 AD
• 1172 AD
• 1287 AD
• 1570 AD

The 1570 AD flood continued as rising sea levels into the early 18th Century before falling (if I understood Cullen correctly). Chronologically, a long 1570 flood is a good fit with evidence that Britain's industrial revolution was the result of humans taking over their predecessors' remaining technologies.

Moving back one flood, Tim Cullen has also presented evidence of 'a dreadful storm' or major sea 'trangression' into mainland England around 1287. And 1285 AD is cited in I G Simmons of Durham (UK) University Geography department's study of sea level change and flood defences in east Lincolnshire:, which notes in Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : Section 3 - Comparisons - Durham University:

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When reading Victoria County History records, you'll often find variants of this chronology of the prosperity of Thorney Abbey, Cambridgeshire:


Translation:


Side-note: Only a coincidence theorist would notice the 1291 sea level rise is close to England's first 'Dissolution': the 1308-1312 dissolution of the Knights Templar and Knights of St Lazarus - whose mudflooded monasteries were inherited by the Knights Hospitaller. Or that from 1538 onwards, the remains of the Thorney site were leased to 'Walter Williams or Crumwell of Chatteris'; Chatteris being located between the various farms inherited and acquired by Oliver Cromwell.

The Durham team have plenty more for flood nerds:

• Various sea level rises. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : Appendix 2.1.A Weather, Climate, Sea-Level and Floods in Medieval Times - Durham University
• More sea level rise and flood dates. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : 2.2 From 1100 - 1500: The Coast - Durham University
• Notes odd lack of records of flood destruction but later notes that reports of lost harbours (havens) provide clues to flooding events. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : 2.2 From 1100 - 1500: The Coast - Durham University. See also section: 2.2.2.3 Other Havens? and 2.2.2.4 General Observations on Havens
• Dutch term for wind-driven high water is 'water-wolf'. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : Section 3 - Comparisons - Durham University (Lincolnshire has 'supernatural wolf' mythology)

Simmons doesn't speculate about what caused these sea level changes. Cullen thinks tectonic-scale crustal movements caused them. That is: wide area earthquakes.

Do we have have evidence of earthquakes around these flood years?

Musson's The seismicity of the British Isles to 1600 reviewed early British earthquake reports. It supports major earthquake events around the same times as Cullen's and Simmons floods, though not 708. It's interesting reading: for some unexplored reason, Britain and parts of north-west Europe experienced wide area earthquakes in medieval times. Then they stopped.

Why then? And why not now? Do earthquake zones migrate? Do they come and go?

Orthodoxy says the Romans left Britain in the fifth century. Alt-history says the Pompeii evidence points to a Roman ending around 1631. We can leave orthodoxy for the orthodox and instead, ask ourselves if the disappearance of the Romans from Britain might be connected to the medieval earthquakes.

Perhaps the onset of the Little Ice Age was also connected in some way. Perhaps to Romans' disappearance (or their transformatinon into something else), perhaps to the flooding, perhaps to the Welland's silting up, perhaps to the shortage of labour afterwards.

From Little Ice Age by Michael Mann:



Interesting that Switzerland should start to see cold weather about the time (ten years later) that this bizarre statue (mentioned earlier) was erected in Berne, Switzerland:

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History in your face. The Kindlifresser. Source​

Perhaps flood-fearing entities set themselves up in Switzerland around that time. Or perhaps they used climate freezing as part of quarrying operations.

Not far from Thorney and ten miles north of the mudflooded 'Roman' port of Castor (Durobrivae) - featured in SH Archive - Clueless Historians in Castor, UK: Roman this, Roman that... - is Stamford. While Durobrivae was a major Roman port until it was mudflooded, Stamford was a major medieval port until its river - the River Welland - silted up was blocked by 'mill builders' some time before 1571. The link describes how the Stamford Canal was built to reconnect silted Stamford to the sea via a port at Market Deeping, six miles downstream. The Stamford Canal has a puzzling history.

It's puzzling because:

• There are no engineering documents for the canal and few documents of any other kind related to it.
• There are quicker, cheaper ways to deal with watermills blocking trade to a major port (and their owners) than by hand-building a six mile, 12-lock canal.
• The canal's construction was legislated for in 1571 - 50 years before work actually began. Work was delayed due lack of contractors with canal-building skills.
• Once started, the canal took a century to finish.
• The canal's completion occurred 100 years before Britain's Industrial Revolution, making it one of the first canals dug in Britain after the Romans left.

Possibly, there are perfectly orthodox explanations for the delays and lack of documentation. However, Simmons and his Durham team noted the odd unavailability of some Lincolnshire records for their research on flooding 30 miles north east of Stamford. And although it wasn't in Simmons' remit, there is anecdotal evidence that parish records were removed and/or stolen from fenland Lincolnshire churches and houses during the 18th century. Absence of the usual written evidence suggests attempts to hide the real history of the area.

Possibly, the puzzles are simply that the Stamford Canal was an early attempt by the English to build an ambitious, 12-lock canal at the start of a crop-killing, people-killing Little Ice Age, just as John Dee and colleagues discover science, maths and navigation and Britain's elites begin colonising the world.

Possibly, the canal was an existing mudflooded canal that was partially dug out, in which case the delays might have been due to post-flood shortages of any kind of human labour. Or shortages of the skills required to repair and/or build 12 canal locks. Or both.

Regardless, once finished, Stamford's new canal joined the River Welland a mile west of Market Deeping. Most of what remains today is dry except for the last mile or so before it joins the River Welland. Maps mark its remains as 'River Welland', though it is obviously a cut-off canal - its course is straighter and its waters are visibly slower flowing than the Welland's.

That's where another puzzle emerges. For about half a mile before reaching the two bridges that cross the two watercourses, northbound drivers on the A15 Market Deeping bypass get the impression they are driving uphill. Checked on a topographical map, it turns out they are correct. They are driving uphill towards a canal and a river.

It's reasonable for a canal's course to follow higher ground. It is not reasonable for a natural river's course to follow higher ground. The video below shows the two Wellands' routes over high ground (lighter blue), skirting lower ground (deeper blue verging on purple) to their right. The Stamford Canal and the River Welland emerge at bottom left and flow diagonally up and to the right (north east) before turning right (east) and meeting up just inside the A15 bypass.

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Mouse cursor 'taps' show the height above sea level in each location (in feet).

The most reasonable explanation is that the River Welland was also canalised and forced to join the Stamford Canal rather than take its natural course across the low ground to east-south-east. That would suggest an effort to create a well-watered 'river' port on higher ground at Market Deeping.

Perhaps the canal's missing documentation would explain the River Welland's seemingly artificial course. But it would be a breakthrough if its documentation were found because the River Welland isn't the only Lincolnshire river with an 'enigmatic' course. In fact, the Welland is one of the few Lincolnshire rivers whose enigmatic course has not already been puzzled over in some geographer's academic paper.

Market Deeping also boasts a few puzzles of its own. It's eastern extension - upmarket Deeping St James - has a former market cross with the remains of a small gaol (jail) built into its base. With:

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Remains of Deeping St James' cross, circa 1965. Source​

Jail? Or a market day pen for small, sentient produce and slaves?

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It really is in your face. Circa earlier. Source​

Market Deeping's central market cross is one of 10,000 (out of around 12,000) crosses that were destroyed by alleged 'iconoclasts' in the 16th and 17th centuries (Source).

Just like nearby Stamford, Market Deeping seems remarkably well-connected to English royalty. From the same source as the above image:



Condensing other parts of that page:


And - again from the same source - what provoked Elizabeth I to order a survey of her lands in East Deeping in 1538?

But that page may also hold a clue to the missing Stamford Canal documentation, the gravity-defying course of the River Welland and the possibility that Market Deeping was created around an artificially created river port:


You really should be concerned at finding another reference to a Norman 'garden of pleasure', but at least we now have a provisional explanation for the apparent canalisation of the River Welland. And a competing build date for the Stamford Canal, not to mention Market Deeping itself: during the first two decades of the 12th Century.

Now that is counter-narrative!

Another mystery is how some of Market Deeping's old stone houses acquired their cute, but unfeasibly low, front doors. The image shows one of a handful of Deeping doors that are about 5 ft, one inch high. The striped pole in the image is 2 m (6 ft, 6 in) long - more or less the same height as a standard modern door.

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Church Street, Market Deeping (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)
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Deeping is well-known for its low front doors. It is not well-known for its tall front doors. That's because their original height has been hidden.

A couple of houses up the street from the cute-doored house above is the White Horse pub. Its doorway has been shortened with a crude stone infill:

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White Horse, Church Street, Market Deeping (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)​

What would we find if we removed the grandiose triangular portico affair above the infill? Would we find the original doorway was even higher than the top edge of the visible infill?

Before we explore a possible answer to that question, let's note that shrinking front doors are common all over eastern England. Usually these front doorways are arched. In poorer buildings - those whose front door opens directly on to the street - their original height has been reduced by a plywood cover-board nailed to a poorly-fitting wood frame. In posher buildings - meaning: buildings with front gardens - the door height has usually been reduced with well-fitting glass 'fanlights'.

From Glemsford, Suffolk:

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The Rectory, Glemsford, Suffolk (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)​

Some have been reduced with a brick infill. An example from Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk:

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Build an arch, lay bricks beneath it ​

If you get bored of English doors, try Doors for Giants (Russian), (English translation). But if you aren't bored, let's go back to Market Deeping and see if we can find any clues about what was might have been hidden behind the White Horse's portico.

About 250 yards south of the White Horse is this building. An inscription in the wooden lintel about window dates it to "Anno Domini 1640":

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Looks like being 9ft tall went out of fashion (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)
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The striped pole shows this doorway is 3m (10 ft) high. A stable door perhaps? The average stable door is 2.085m (6 ft, 10 in) high. The shorter door at the far end of the stone building is part of a later extension or rebuild. The even shorter blue door (in the white building at the left of the image) is modern standard door height.

Once you develop an eye for how door heights have been discretely reduced, you find them everywhere, at least in eastern England. Like English churches, they are a ubiquitous feature of the built environment. And like almost all English churches - their construction history is missing.

A bit like the Stamford Canal.

England's built environment is like a stage-set, a stage-set hastily adapted for people our size. Why is it like this? Is something being hidden?

Given that flood events are also missing from English history but somewhat present in Belgian, Dutch and German history, and given that the Dutch flood accounts often report floods as having been worse in England, is it possible that England's floods involved realities that have also been hidden?

The same flood years - and later on, fire years - come up time and time again. The same mysterious gaps in documentation and the same explanations come up time and time again. Summarising what the clues left at the scene say about climate and chronology, they seem to say: sea levels rose from 1285 onwards, until a 1540 flood event. That event was a cold, wet start to a multi-year process that seems to have culminated in the late 18th century with fire and fighting. And perhaps these processes led to our current level of 'freedom'.

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Animal Farm by George Orwell. First paragraph

Key entities in Animal Farm:

• Jones = Géants = Giants
• Snowball = ? One possibility: Другая история Земли. Часть 1а. (Russian), (English translation). Perhaps 'Snowball' is a euphemism for that 1540 cold, wet start?
• Napoleon = Unconvincing historical figure(s), but perhaps a euphemism for the fire and fighting at the end of these processes?
• Manor Farm = ? Let's see...
  • Chicken farm = A farm for chickens
  • Sheep farm = A farm for sheep
  • Cattle farm = A farm for cattle
  • Deer farm - A farm for deer
  • Fish farm = A farm for fish
  • Oyster farm = A farm for oysters

lots of writing by this "Cullin" guy.

Could that be a nod to events where they're "cullin' " humans?

Tim Cullen takes on mainstream history's chronology of North-West European floods. The PDF is linked to at Finistere Catastrophes Chronology, where the comments are worth reading.

Cullen's significant flood years are:

• 807 AD
• 1172 AD
• 1287 AD
• 1570 AD

The 1570 AD flood continued as rising sea levels into the early 18th Century before falling (if I understood Cullen correctly). Chronologically, a long 1570 flood is a good fit with evidence that Britain's industrial revolution was the result of humans taking over their predecessors' remaining technologies.

Moving back one flood, Tim Cullen has also presented evidence of 'a dreadful storm' or major sea 'trangression' into mainland England around 1287. And 1285 AD is cited in I G Simmons of Durham (UK) University Geography department's study of sea level change and flood defences in east Lincolnshire:, which notes in Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : Section 3 - Comparisons - Durham University:

​

​

When reading Victoria County History records, you'll often find variants of this chronology of the prosperity of Thorney Abbey, Cambridgeshire:


Translation:


Side-note: Only a coincidence theorist would notice the 1291 sea level rise is close to England's first 'Dissolution': the 1308-1312 dissolution of the Knights Templar and Knights of St Lazarus - whose mudflooded monasteries were inherited by the Knights Hospitaller. Or that from 1538 onwards, the remains of the Thorney site were leased to 'Walter Williams or Crumwell of Chatteris'; Chatteris being located between the various farms inherited and acquired by Oliver Cromwell.

The Durham team have plenty more for flood nerds:

• Various sea level rises. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : Appendix 2.1.A Weather, Climate, Sea-Level and Floods in Medieval Times - Durham University
• More sea level rise and flood dates. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : 2.2 From 1100 - 1500: The Coast - Durham University
• Notes odd lack of records of flood destruction but later notes that reports of lost harbours (havens) provide clues to flooding events. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : 2.2 From 1100 - 1500: The Coast - Durham University. See also section: 2.2.2.3 Other Havens? and 2.2.2.4 General Observations on Havens
• Dutch term for wind-driven high water is 'water-wolf'. Source: Margins of the East Fen: Historic Landscape Evolution : Section 3 - Comparisons - Durham University (Lincolnshire has 'supernatural wolf' mythology)

Simmons doesn't speculate about what caused these sea level changes. Cullen thinks tectonic-scale crustal movements caused them. That is: wide area earthquakes.

Do we have have evidence of earthquakes around these flood years?

Musson's The seismicity of the British Isles to 1600 reviewed early British earthquake reports. It supports major earthquake events around the same times as Cullen's and Simmons floods, though not 708. It's interesting reading: for some unexplored reason, Britain and parts of north-west Europe experienced wide area earthquakes in medieval times. Then they stopped.

Why then? And why not now? Do earthquake zones migrate? Do they come and go?

Orthodoxy says the Romans left Britain in the fifth century. Alt-history says the Pompeii evidence points to a Roman ending around 1631. We can leave orthodoxy for the orthodox and instead, ask ourselves if the disappearance of the Romans from Britain might be connected to the medieval earthquakes.

Perhaps the onset of the Little Ice Age was also connected in some way. Perhaps to Romans' disappearance (or their transformatinon into something else), perhaps to the flooding, perhaps to the Welland's silting up, perhaps to the shortage of labour afterwards.

From Little Ice Age by Michael Mann:



Interesting that Switzerland should start to see cold weather about the time (ten years later) that this bizarre statue (mentioned earlier) was erected in Berne, Switzerland:

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History in your face. The Kindlifresser. Source​

Perhaps flood-fearing entities set themselves up in Switzerland around that time. Or perhaps they used climate freezing as part of quarrying operations.

Not far from Thorney and ten miles north of the mudflooded 'Roman' port of Castor (Durobrivae) - featured in SH Archive - Clueless Historians in Castor, UK: Roman this, Roman that... - is Stamford. While Durobrivae was a major Roman port until it was mudflooded, Stamford was a major medieval port until its river - the River Welland - silted up was blocked by 'mill builders' some time before 1571. The link describes how the Stamford Canal was built to reconnect silted Stamford to the sea via a port at Market Deeping, six miles downstream. The Stamford Canal has a puzzling history.

It's puzzling because:

• There are no engineering documents for the canal and few documents of any other kind related to it.
• There are quicker, cheaper ways to deal with watermills blocking trade to a major port (and their owners) than by hand-building a six mile, 12-lock canal.
• The canal's construction was legislated for in 1571 - 50 years before work actually began. Work was delayed due lack of contractors with canal-building skills.
• Once started, the canal took a century to finish.
• The canal's completion occurred 100 years before Britain's Industrial Revolution, making it one of the first canals dug in Britain after the Romans left.

Possibly, there are perfectly orthodox explanations for the delays and lack of documentation. However, Simmons and his Durham team noted the odd unavailability of some Lincolnshire records for their research on flooding 30 miles north east of Stamford. And although it wasn't in Simmons' remit, there is anecdotal evidence that parish records were removed and/or stolen from fenland Lincolnshire churches and houses during the 18th century. Absence of the usual written evidence suggests attempts to hide the real history of the area.

Possibly, the puzzles are simply that the Stamford Canal was an early attempt by the English to build an ambitious, 12-lock canal at the start of a crop-killing, people-killing Little Ice Age, just as John Dee and colleagues discover science, maths and navigation and Britain's elites begin colonising the world.

Possibly, the canal was an existing mudflooded canal that was partially dug out, in which case the delays might have been due to post-flood shortages of any kind of human labour. Or shortages of the skills required to repair and/or build 12 canal locks. Or both.

Regardless, once finished, Stamford's new canal joined the River Welland a mile west of Market Deeping. Most of what remains today is dry except for the last mile or so before it joins the River Welland. Maps mark its remains as 'River Welland', though it is obviously a cut-off canal - its course is straighter and its waters are visibly slower flowing than the Welland's.

That's where another puzzle emerges. For about half a mile before reaching the two bridges that cross the two watercourses, northbound drivers on the A15 Market Deeping bypass get the impression they are driving uphill. Checked on a topographical map, it turns out they are correct. They are driving uphill towards a canal and a river.

It's reasonable for a canal's course to follow higher ground. It is not reasonable for a natural river's course to follow higher ground. The video below shows the two Wellands' routes over high ground (lighter blue), skirting lower ground (deeper blue verging on purple) to their right. The Stamford Canal and the River Welland emerge at bottom left and flow diagonally up and to the right (north east) before turning right (east) and meeting up just inside the A15 bypass.

View attachment 11765​

Mouse cursor 'taps' show the height above sea level in each location (in feet).

The most reasonable explanation is that the River Welland was also canalised and forced to join the Stamford Canal rather than take its natural course across the low ground to east-south-east. That would suggest an effort to create a well-watered 'river' port on higher ground at Market Deeping.

Perhaps the canal's missing documentation would explain the River Welland's seemingly artificial course. But it would be a breakthrough if its documentation were found because the River Welland isn't the only Lincolnshire river with an 'enigmatic' course. In fact, the Welland is one of the few Lincolnshire rivers whose enigmatic course has not already been puzzled over in some geographer's academic paper.

Market Deeping also boasts a few puzzles of its own. It's eastern extension - upmarket Deeping St James - has a former market cross with the remains of a small gaol (jail) built into its base. With:

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Remains of Deeping St James' cross, circa 1965. Source​

Jail? Or a market day pen for small, sentient produce and slaves?

View attachment 11821
It really is in your face. Circa earlier. Source​

Market Deeping's central market cross is one of 10,000 (out of around 12,000) crosses that were destroyed by alleged 'iconoclasts' in the 16th and 17th centuries (Source).

Just like nearby Stamford, Market Deeping seems remarkably well-connected to English royalty. From the same source as the above image:



Condensing other parts of that page:


And - again from the same source - what provoked Elizabeth I to order a survey of her lands in East Deeping in 1538?

But that page may also hold a clue to the missing Stamford Canal documentation, the gravity-defying course of the River Welland and the possibility that Market Deeping was created around an artificially created river port:


You really should be concerned at finding another reference to a Norman 'garden of pleasure', but at least we now have a provisional explanation for the apparent canalisation of the River Welland. And a competing build date for the Stamford Canal, not to mention Market Deeping itself: during the first two decades of the 12th Century.

Now that is counter-narrative!

Another mystery is how some of Market Deeping's old stone houses acquired their cute, but unfeasibly low, front doors. The image shows one of a handful of Deeping doors that are about 5 ft, one inch high. The striped pole in the image is 2 m (6 ft, 6 in) long - more or less the same height as a standard modern door.

View attachment 11782
Church Street, Market Deeping (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)
​

Deeping is well-known for its low front doors. It is not well-known for its tall front doors. That's because their original height has been hidden.

A couple of houses up the street from the cute-doored house above is the White Horse pub. Its doorway has been shortened with a crude stone infill:

View attachment 11783
White Horse, Church Street, Market Deeping (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)​

What would we find if we removed the grandiose triangular portico affair above the infill? Would we find the original doorway was even higher than the top edge of the visible infill?

Before we explore a possible answer to that question, let's note that shrinking front doors are common all over eastern England. Usually these front doorways are arched. In poorer buildings - those whose front door opens directly on to the street - their original height has been reduced by a plywood cover-board nailed to a poorly-fitting wood frame. In posher buildings - meaning: buildings with front gardens - the door height has usually been reduced with well-fitting glass 'fanlights'.

From Glemsford, Suffolk:

View attachment 11784
The Rectory, Glemsford, Suffolk (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)​

Some have been reduced with a brick infill. An example from Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk:

View attachment 11785
Build an arch, lay bricks beneath it ​

If you get bored of English doors, try Doors for Giants (Russian), (English translation). But if you aren't bored, let's go back to Market Deeping and see if we can find any clues about what was might have been hidden behind the White Horse's portico.

About 250 yards south of the White Horse is this building. An inscription in the wooden lintel about window dates it to "Anno Domini 1640":

View attachment 11786
Looks like being 9ft tall went out of fashion (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)
​

The striped pole shows this doorway is 3m (10 ft) high. A stable door perhaps? The average stable door is 2.085m (6 ft, 10 in) high. The shorter door at the far end of the stone building is part of a later extension or rebuild. The even shorter blue door (in the white building at the left of the image) is modern standard door height.

Once you develop an eye for how door heights have been discretely reduced, you find them everywhere, at least in eastern England. Like English churches, they are a ubiquitous feature of the built environment. And like almost all English churches - their construction history is missing.

A bit like the Stamford Canal.

England's built environment is like a stage-set, a stage-set hastily adapted for people our size. Why is it like this? Is something being hidden?

Given that flood events are also missing from English history but somewhat present in Belgian, Dutch and German history, and given that the Dutch flood accounts often report floods as having been worse in England, is it possible that England's floods involved realities that have also been hidden?

The same flood years - and later on, fire years - come up time and time again. The same mysterious gaps in documentation and the same explanations come up time and time again. Summarising what the clues left at the scene say about climate and chronology, they seem to say: sea levels rose from 1285 onwards, until a 1540 flood event. That event was a cold, wet start to a multi-year process that seems to have culminated in the late 18th century with fire and fighting. And perhaps these processes led to our current level of 'freedom'.

View attachment 11760​

Animal Farm by George Orwell. First paragraph

Key entities in Animal Farm:

• Jones = Géants = Giants
• Snowball = ? One possibility: Другая история Земли. Часть 1а. (Russian), (English translation). Perhaps 'Snowball' is a euphemism for that 1540 cold, wet start?
• Napoleon = Unconvincing historical figure(s), but perhaps a euphemism for the fire and fighting at the end of these processes?
• Manor Farm = ? Let's see...
  • Chicken farm = A farm for chickens
  • Sheep farm = A farm for sheep
  • Cattle farm = A farm for cattle
  • Deer farm - A farm for deer
  • Fish farm = A farm for fish
  • Oyster farm = A farm for oysters

lots of writing by this "Cullin" guy.

Could that be a nod to events where they're "cullin' " humans?

 

[Razumov]

The founder of Russian Hominidology and head of the Snowman commision Boris Porshnev wrote his final masterwork at the end of his life. In it he theorized that the ancient Troglodytes kept humans as food.

Russian Wikipedia entry through Google translate

The book develops a hypothesis about how further interaction of the newly emerged ancient man and troglodytes in a single environment led to an increase in the mechanisms of inhibition and prohibition - the humans and Neanderthals coexisted within the same community, and individuals of the human species served as the main food of troglodytes. Subsequently, this led to the consolidation in human culture of sacrifices and initiation rites that mimic death.

 

[huskofahuman]

This dude thinks that they didn't create us, they just merely modified us. I really like how he thinks, he has a lot of good videos. Check him out.


View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mcgfN7ZTVdU/

 

[solarbard]

There was a cannibal giant named Tartaro (Tartarian?) in Basque legends. Just throwing that out there.

 

[Oracle]

The whole Clown thing I find particularly creepy!

I recently was drawn into the history of Alchemy as part of my research. In the book Fulcanelli master alchemist, he largely hints at the fact that part of the process of creating the Philosopher's Stone in one method was the putrification of freshly killed infants, and the use of the resulting mess in the formula, for the harvesting of the human soul or living waters. There is an old sketch which I think may have on my laptop which was referenced. Now since all the secrets of Alchemy are hidden in code and allegories, it may well not exactly be the drawing out of the human Soul in this manner he was refering to, but it sure seemed to be. His apparent disgust made him only briefly mention it and he specifically said that was different to the usual method which he was describing.
I'll see if I can find more on this tonight when on my laptop.

 

[usselo]

DanFromMN said:

Could that be a nod to events where they're "cullin' " humans?

Could be. Cullen is very suspicious of Covid-vaccine marketing and post-vaccination death rates. See Medicine – MalagaBay

Razumov said:

he theorized that the ancient Troglodytes kept humans as food.

Thanks for that fascinating link. I wish GCHQ would translate this stuff into English instead of pissing time and money away on domestic foreign surveillance.

But then, who knows, perhaps they are forging it - along with much of the material we examine.

huskofahuman said:

Check him out.

Will do.

solarbard said:

There was a cannibal giant named Tartaro (Tartarian?) in Basque legends.

Thanks, I would like to see native-language Basque speakers tell us more about legends like these and their contexts.

Oracle said:

one method was the putrification of freshly killed infants, and the use of the resulting mess, for the harvesting of the human soul

Harvesting putrefaction products could be the goal of the practices mentioned here, here, as well as the post above. It seems to me modern airships lift less weight for a given balloon volume than early 20th century airships did. So I wonder if there is an unpublicised lighter-than-air component in putrefaction gases. But that's an experiment for another day.

Controlled putrefaction would have been important to entities eating humans. We touched on our owners lacto-fermenting newborn human babies over at The Nephilim Looked Like Clowns (conspiracy-r-us). And on the problems around Britain's 'Roman' baby remains in push4more's post:

Isn't one of the main cannibalistic traces being scratched and sliced "bone". Are there significant archeological digs? Where

and in the subsequent post.

We also have archaeologists turning up dead Roman-era newborns interred in odd places and - in a couple of cases - bearing hard-to-explain cut marks. Archaeologists have not agreed an explanation.

I think we can untangle enough of the puzzles to at least suggest a testable hypothesis about what was going on. We should bear in mind that the baby remains mentioned below may well be at least 1,000 years younger than we're told. Perhaps around 400-500 years old max. That's just my view, based on evidence that the first millennium AD was made up, that the Romans are the Normans are the Crusaders are... whatever else. Also, I'm not sure my later digression into the true nature of fine art really helps this post but for the moment I've left it in.

Let's take archaeologists' own data as a starting point and pay attention to their struggles as they try to match the forensic data to even their 'best-fit' theory.

The below summary lists are extracted from the following infanticide papers, with an emphasis on the first in the list:

• An Infant Femur Bearing Cut Marks from Roman Hambleden England - S. Mays et al
• Infant and Child Burial Rites in Roman Britain - A Study from East Yorkshire - Martin Millett and Rebecca Gowland
• Infanticide in Roman Britain - A Critical Review of the Osteological Evidence - Laura Bonsall
• Infanticide in Roman Britain - Simon Mays
• Unpicking a Myth - The Infanticide of Female and Disabled Infants in Antiquity - Author Eleanor Scott

From these papers, we can summarise the situation archaeologists are in.

Summary of the puzzle:

• Baby bone finds don't match archaeologists' theories about how they died.
• Baby bone finds don't match archaeologists' theories about why they were killed.
• Almost none are premature births.
• Almost none are disabled/deformed.
• Most baby remains are full-term newborns (38-41 week-old foetuses).
• But they aren't buried in cemeteries with adults and kids.
• Their bones are usually found in pots...
• 'Buried' inside houses...
• And outbuildings...
• Often near stoves.

Summarising where newborn baby bones tend to be found:

• Around Roman 'baths'
• In sewers
• In houses and outbuildings.

Summarising archaeologists' "They killed them because..." theories:

• They killed disabled babies... However, newborn baby bones rarely show evidence of disability.
• They killed ugly babies... You just have to make your own call on that one. I'll just point out that, if so, the full claim would have to be: "they killed ugly babies, stuffed them in pots, and buried them inside their houses by the walls." If you've ever killed an ugly baby, you'll know this is nonsense. You want that thing out of the house.
• Disgrace-fearing single mothers stashed them in holes scratched in the floor, presumably when no-one was looking... I guess the archaeologists' envision that you'd hide your last three months of 'expansion', then practice 'induce and inter' at a convenient moment when no-one was looking.
• A variant of the above - presumably - is that everyone knew you were a single mother and made you live with your shame by forcing you to bury your newly-killed disgrace under your floor. A sort of educational device... But even archaeologists point out this kind of thinking is more suited to minds stained by Victorian moral norms than Roman norms.
• It was population control... You know how that goes.
• They killed girls... But, in as much as sex can be determined, the majority of newborn bones are male.

Summarising archaeologists' "They killed them in this way..." theories:

• One theory is that unwanted babies were left out on hillsides (exposure death). This theory attempts to explain why Roman cemeteries contain so few newborn's bones. So, claims the theory, that's why the only surviving bones are those found in former buildings.
• The primary kill theory explored in Mays' paper is that some babies died and/or were killed during birth even if wanted. During obstructed deliveries, both mother and baby were at risk and likely to die of complications. So, if complications did arise the best option was to focus on saving the mother, kill the baby if necessary and dispose of it.

These deliveries required no exposure of the baby and so their bones should show up in cemeteries or somewhere.

However, the whole "Roman childbirth was a desperate affair" meme falls apart when corpses are examined. For example, in the parts of three so-far excavated Roman cemeteries in Winchester - the fifth biggest Roman town in Britain - only one female skeleton was found with baby bones inside. Another female skeleton was found with newborn baby remains close by but that find does not mean the mother and child died at childbirth.

In other words, there is little evidence of difficult births in Roman times.

If you read these papers, you see the evidence fits no known theory and the theories are a poor fit for the evidence. In fact, the evidence contradicts the theories. One archaeologist claims infanticide theories have been constructed around historians' opinions - with little reference to physical evidence found by archaeologists.

To avoid laboriously going through each paper, take it from me that many newborns' bones are found in pots in houses and outbuildings, usually by walls, often near ovens. If you can't take it from me, by all means read the papers (if you have access) and take it from their authors instead.

Interior 'internment' locations. Source​

The blobs shown within the lines are 'internments'. Very regularly spaced 'internments'. This isn't a one accident-prone mum.

Let's zoom in on the cut marks described in Mays, S., Robson-Brown, K., Vincent, S., Eyers, J., King, H., and Roberts, A. 2012: ‘An infant femur bearing cut marks from Roman Hambleden, England’, International Journal of Osteoarchaeology 24, 111–15:

Cut marks on right femur of newborn infant, Hambledon Roman villa, UK
Source​

Quoting from the paper:

possibility is that the cut marks were formed during an obstetric operation... embryotomy (the extraction of undeliverable live or dead newborn).

Although the cut marks seen in burial 38 do not extend to the proximal extremity of the foetal femur, they could represent adventitious cuts as the surgeon attempted to locate the hip joint of the breech-presenting foetus to disarticulate the legs and ease delivery

Technically, I think that might be a foetotomy, but it doesn't matter in the context of our examination.

We should note here that Mays mentions another example of similar marks from a hundred miles or so west at Poundbury Camp, Dorset. There are papers on the Poundbury Camp baby cut-marks but I don't have access to them. The only detail I have is Mays' comment that its cut marks were found on the same part of the femur.

Returning to Mays...

In most of these historical descriptions of embryotomy, it is the arms, not the legs, that are seen as causing most difficulty in extracting the body and that need to be removed.

Putting that quote in layman's terms:

• Hands and arms are not a useful part of failed deliveries and can be cut off to ease extraction of the rest of the body, head, etc.
• Feet and legs are a useful part of failed deliveries - dead or living - because they can be roped with a rag and used to pull the body out.

From the same paper:

[cuts were] ...created around the time of death of the infant (or at least when the bone was still fresh enough to retain its slight elasticity)

unlikely to be immediately related to the cause of death... unlikely that they were inflicted with the intent of killing the infant; there are no major blood vessels in this region.

Evidence of the practice of defleshing has been established in other Romano-British skeletal remains

lack of any convincing cut marks elsewhere on the skeleton makes it improbable that the marks on the femur were part of a systematic defleshing process

Mays is correct that this wasn't about de-fleshing the baby. Nevertheless, the cut marks are also on the wrong limb and in the wrong place on the wrong limb for this to be a typical embyotomy. I'm not saying Mays is wrong to claim this bone evidences embryotomy. I am claiming that the explanation is a stretch because the evidence does not match common embryotomy practice.

Mays' paper fails to consider the possibility that:

• The infant was butchered (for immediate eating or for preparation as a lacto-ferment). And that:
• Butchers and tanners could be expected to de-fat and skin the carcass prior to fermenting or curing it.

Dealing with the meat-preservation aspect first. Today, we generally lacto-ferment in pots. In lacto-fermentation, the product has to be kept completely below the surface of the salty liquid in which it ferments. Product exposed to the air above the liquid will putrefy. Usually, it is kept fully immersed by keeping it pressed down under a flat, weighted plate.

But not all baby bones are 'buried' in pots. A few are found 'buried' under broken tiles. A few are 'casually interred'. A location analysis of baby remains and, in particular, baby and soil remains found under tiles would help us a lot. The tiles suggest bones and meat were being weighed down, but there are no reports of the surrounding pot that would have contained the ferment. To get to the bottom of this, we need a better understanding of the find circumstances for those bones found under tiles but not in pots.

Some preservation techniques require the product to be wrapped in something porous, then allowed to drip dry. We do something similar with cheese and many salami style sausages. The casual baby remains found may have been preserved using similar techniques.

Salt-curing should also not be dismissed. Salt-curing would provide one source of demand for the astonishing extent of salt-harvesting in eastern England a few hundred years ago.

Another scenario, used in the past and in our time, is to string carcasses and hang them from walls and ceilings so they cure on the bone. Refer to the 'meathook merchandise' photograph in this post. Usually you'd leave more space for air flow than is shown in that image. However we don't know the real history of the two bodies shown. They may have been re-hung by the kindly monks credited with placing them in their current positions. There are many clues that English churches were involved in human meat preservation. The strange resemblance of louvered church belfries to drying sheds and smokehouses, the references to hooks built into in the walls of church and castle towers 'for prisoners', the widespread destruction of churches and particularly church towers by 1830, the destruction of most village market crosses.

We're left with another puzzle: if they were being preserved for table, why would human meat products be buried?

It's probably already clear but I don't think there is sufficient evidence that these babies were deliberately buried. Instead, it seems likely that at least one flood or mudflood went through skulleries and meat-sheds. They left potted and cured human remains below ground and easily mistaken or deliberate burials. With this scenario in mind, imagine mudflood hitting an outbuilding or skullery stocked with cured babies. It's a scenario that makes sense of diagrams like the above.

We can attack this problem from the opposite direction: if we accept mudflood has swamped the ground floors of many stone and brick buildings, why would we think mudflood had not buried potted products stacked on floors and air-curing products hanging from ceilings?

Once we think of these sites as butchers' sheds and skulleries we can see why some products would be carefully removed and processed separately. Human skin products have very different uses and very different preparation requirements. SH.net has covered aspects of this before, in this post and in Zlax's posts on the book trade's use of human skin at Anthropodermic bibliopegy.

We also need to consider tanning processes.

Why is an urn shown in the picture below?

The Four Rivers of Paradise, Rubens. Repurposed tanner's advert. Source​

You see another fake out of Antwerp. I see a tanner's advert re-purposed as high art. Its original marketing message was something like:

Our tanning promise guarantees you'll never feel under-dressed again!

Our patented urine-process tans:​

• Thickest crocodile skin into tough, flexible work-wear.​
• Thinnest infant skin into delicate, see-through fabric. The perfect cheeky gift for that special someone.​
• Fur pelts into warm, luxurious fashion-wear. Never feel those chilly Little Ice Age nights again!​

Guaranteed urine-tanned in our custom-built urns!​

From: Urine Tanned Salmon Leather

Why urine? When our bodies and the bodies of all mammals break down amino acids as a part of normal metabolism, we produce ammonia... an amazing basic solvent that can break down fats and oils, clean surfaces and stop decay
...
You should have enough liquid to stir the skin and have it float freely.
...
This solution in the tanning world is also called a pickle

Yep, where it isn't fake, a lot of 'classical' art is just re-purposed advertising. That's why it comes with unbelievable storage and discovery stories. That's why its content often promotes run-of-the-mill activities such as:

• Club 18-30-style holidays, complete with horn vuvuzela. See the video in this post, or at least consider its initial image:

Roman Club 18-30 advert. Source​

About Club 18-30 holidays:​

an advertising campaign promoted attractions of people who were sexually active and could enjoy themselves in uninhibited, alcohol-fuelled ways​

• Or it features meat and veg. From item 9 at Cannibalism in humans, Great Apes, Prion diseases, and mRNA therapy:

Although, to be fair, this last one could be promoting leather tints made from natural plant dyes.

Once we reject ill-fitting theories and stick rigorously to theories that match the evidence and the logic of the situation, we find cut marks are better explained as evidence of flensing (fat-removal) and de-skinning. Flensing and de-skinning leave fewer knife traces than de-fleshing, satisfying Mays' observation that the Hambledon baby bones were not a straightforward case of baby-meat butchery.

Once we adopt this different model of events, we can investigate other details to see if they fit. In this scenario, the odd choice of limb and the (seemingly) oddly-located scratch marks immediately make sense. They are positioned far enough along the femur to tell us that enough skin was left to seal it with a knot, as demonstrated here:

"Nice bag!" "Thanks - tanned it myself. In its own urine!" Source: long forgotten​

Or, more likely, to tack a hem to strengthen the opening and even take elastic. Because, as archaeologists are told - if they would only pay attention - it is highly likely the semi-translucence and natural elasticity of infant hide made it a steady seller in the high-end lingerie market:

Download Video​

Many a true word spoken in jest. Source: Not Only... but Also (BBC2 1965)

Edited for readability and reduced yuck factor.

 

[usselo]

Russian Youtube channel "Pi's Story" weaves together this and the cannibalism thread's evidence that European and English elites used humans as food, medicine and material resources. He's added some interesting bits from elsewhere:

The Farm: The Unpleasant History of Mankind
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For example, another example of a horned lady:

Download Video​

Image is unsourced. Modern impression of a medieval building site or genuine?

Compare and contrast with this image from The Nephilim Looked Like Clowns (conspiracy-r-us)

Options:

• High fashion?
• Medieval equivalent of the hard hat? (a medieval must-have for ladies visiting building sites)
• Thinly-veiled horns?
• Or simply fashionable copying of the elites of that time?

Makes me wonder if big-skirted gowns came in because some of those girls had furry haunches to hide.

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to warm the seats and even pleasantly

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bubbling water underfoot. Just an

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idyllic picture confuses me true a

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few tiny moments. In the first place,

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how do historians know about the real

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purpose of these premises?

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Italian archaeologist Giacomo Bani

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only in 1913, in his report, he

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suggested that the leaky bench could

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be part of a complex mechanism

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designed to supply water to the

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upper rooms of the palace and this is a very

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important fact, which means that until 1913

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no one knew anything at all about the purpose of

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such premises. Today though, historians

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talk about these places in great

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detail. Entrance fees, intimate

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conversations of patricians on the feat of how to

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use a reusable sponge. I

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wonder where the historian knows this all from. The

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second interesting point is the

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material from which it is made. Lena from

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the restroom bench, According to historians, people

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sat on a stone for hours discussing

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political news. It seems that everything would be

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fine - in summer in Rome and other cities of the

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Mediterranean Sea it is

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hot and it would be very comfortable to sit on a pebble of shade.

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But after all, Rome not only has hot summers...

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it is also quite cool in winter, when the

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temperature can drop to three

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degrees. Now imagine patricians come

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to a public toilet in winter,

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sit down on a chilly marble

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bench and start a leisurely conversation about

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politics and sports.

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If a man older than 40 sits at least

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several times on cold stones, then

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he inevitably develops a rather

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painful inflammation called

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prostatitis So there is nothing

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surprising in the fact that ancient Rome

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disappeared. Ancient rome ruined public

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toilets with prostatitis and reusable sponges. Of

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course you can argue here because

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historians have told us about specially

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trained slaves who warmed up the

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marble seat in anticipation of a client.

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It’s just that I don’t... I can't imagine how a

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person can warm up a marble slab weighing

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several hundred kilograms with his bum.

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Three. An interesting

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aspect... public toilets

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were located not only in big

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cities but also in small villages of

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several hundred people. If, in big

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cities, a lot of people gathered in

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a club of interests,

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then who went to these places in villages?

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Villages where mainly slaves and hired workers lived,

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and the middle class was represented by a

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dozen people who had

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their own villas with all amenities.

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And this is what I am leading to - historians do not know the exact

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purpose of these premises. They do not know

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who, when, and why they were built. An interesting

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version I found here in this blog. There's a

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link in the description. In his opinion, these

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places were used as to slaughter. A

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man was placed on his knees, lowered

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his head into the hole.

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A sword-swipe and the blood flowed down

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special grooves, sponges on sticks

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collected the remnants of

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the blood bath.

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This version is, of course, controversial but you yourself

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read it

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there presented very specific

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pictures from this version are also consistent,

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but this fresco, according to historians, the

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Roman goddess fortune protected the

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toilet visitors from danger. The

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big sword confuses me and the strange cup in

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her hands hints at her

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that. Now let's go back to the

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Middle Ages and let's see how society as a

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whole treated human remains.

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This issue is well dealt with in the book

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nabla "Medicinal Cannibalism in

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English literature and culture of modern

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times,

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as well as the book by Richard Saga is before

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the university of rome england

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called mummies cannibals and vampires

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History of Cadaveric Medicine from the

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Renaissance to the

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Victorian Era. These books

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tell that for several hundred

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years, reaching its peak in the 16-17th Centuries,

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many Europeans, including members of the

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royal family, priests and scientists,

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took medicines containing

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human bones, blood and fat

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as a medicine for everything from

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major pains to epilepsy. Mummy for

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medicines were recovered from Egyptian tombs.

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Egyptian mummies were finely crushed and

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added to a tincture

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for internal bleeding. Thomas came out -

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a 17th century brain science pioneer - mixed a

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powdered human skull and

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chocolate and thus received a

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cure for apoplexy and bleeding.

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King of England Charles II took

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his drops. A personal tincture

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containing a human skull in alcohol

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was considered a very valuable powder of moss,

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which simply on human turtles

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was believed to heal

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nosebleeds and possibly epilepsy.

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The moss could begin to

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sprout

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on the skull under certain conditions. Most often

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this happened when the body was not

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buried. Second, a person must have

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died a violent death and

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Ireland in the 17th century was a

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country strewn with heaps of dead bodies.

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One summer the father of chemistry Robert Boyle

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suffered badly from nosebleeds.

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During a particularly tough incident the

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great man decided to use the

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skull moss that was sent to

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his sister by a great man as a

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gift from Ireland. The usual method

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was to inject the snuff usually

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in powder directly into the nostrils.

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But Boyle discovered that he could completely

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stop bleeding simply by holding a skull

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in his hand.

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In 1694 Pierre Pomet, chief pharmacist to

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Louis the Fourteenth, commented on

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how English pharmacists, especially

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London ones, sell the head or skulls of the

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dead on which there is a small

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greenish mould. England received such

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skulls from Ireland. Pomet also described

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English imports moss

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covered skulls from foreign

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countries, especially in Germany, where they were

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used as an ointment for wounds and

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also to stop bleeding bruises.

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He says English pharmacists

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usually bring these heads from Ireland,

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this country has been wonderful for them since the

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days of Irish life.

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Skulls drenched in moss were of high

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value in the time of Charles II. One

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skull

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could cost 11 shillings. During the

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reign of George I, skulls became an

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international export item.

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They were even specially designated in the list of

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customs duties. In 1725, the duty on

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one skull was one shilling.

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Human fat was used as an

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external ointment. Rubbing fat into the skin

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was considered an effective remedy for

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gout.

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German Swiss doctor Paracelsus

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believed that human blood

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was good for drinking. Poor people who could

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not buy

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processed blood in pharmacies came

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to public executions and collected

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blood with handkerchiefs. Fat also. In German countries the

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executioner was considered a great healer and from

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him for a small amount you could

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buy a bowl of blood. Powders made from mummies

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were sold in German pharmacies

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until the beginning of the 20th century. In Germany,

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in 1908, the last

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known attempt to swallow blood on the

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scaffold was made. As you can see, until the beginning of the 20th

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century, Europe was very loyal.

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The consumption of medicines prepared from

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humans seems to be nothing

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unusual. Even today some

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medicines are made from the same

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ingredients, so it is. But medicines

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are only the top of the pyramid.

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Look at this engraving here...

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Europeans exchange meat for indigenous

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jewelry. What kind of meat is I think

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unnecessary to explain and what is important to emphasize

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is that a European acts as the shopowner.

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This is just a piece of the engraving. The complete

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engraving can be viewed at the link in the

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description. All the details are there

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so that the people of the Middle Ages very freely

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handled the human body... Could

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use it as a basis for the

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preparation of medicines. And were

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not embarrassed to use it as meat.

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Now we will digress a little from

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their gloomy stories and look at

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such a beautiful thing as English

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bone china.

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This is an elegant product and the words "bone china"

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do not mean more durable or

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anything else. Simple

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bone china is a mixture of bone meal with

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ceramic material. The

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bone meal gives the porcelain a warm

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soft color and transparency. Bone meal

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can be up to 45 percent of the

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product. They say that they used to

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use the bones of cows,

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but that's strange, as I said

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before, many churches in England are very similar

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to a crematorium. We do not have medieval cemeteries,

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but we have a structure that is similar to crematorium.

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So very often churches are built according to a

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very simple scheme. There is an altar part...

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adjacent to it a refectory man of a

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refectory adjoins a bell tower with something

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similar to a chimney. I was always confused by the

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names of such a large room as a

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refectory. From the refectory immediately the exit of the

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bell tower looks like a stove and so and

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if the bodies were burned in a furnace, after all, bones are

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very difficult to burn without a residue and

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therefore this scheme lacks four rooms for

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processing. And which place is still

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notorious in the

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villages? Correct, the mill.

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It is the mill in fairy tales which is often

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associated with evil spirits.

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Although this is illogical; on the contrary, the mill

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should symbolize holidays, the nickname of the harvest and

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satiety, but no, they often say about the mill

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that this is a damned place and that is what is

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interesting. In Great Britain, at the beginning of the 19th

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century, there was a specialized

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bone mill located in the

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village of Narborough. There

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was more than one of these mills.


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In 1820, almost every port on the east

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coast

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had access to one or several donated by the

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abundant mills at the mill in the set they

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processed the mouths into fine

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crushed bone meal which, as

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fertilizer was applied to the fields. They claim they

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mainly processed the whalebone.

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We read further: the villagers

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brought some bones

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to grind the bones the same way they did.

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From northern Germany ships brought

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bones taken from the graves with

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static, no one bothered, but they

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just said: "one ton of German

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bone dust saves the import of 10 tons of

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German corn".

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I'm wondering what was happening on the

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territory of Germany in 1820.

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There was no German state of its own, so why was

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there a huge flow of

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bodies from these territories? We will move on to the last

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part of our story, let's call it

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"underground mystical", we all heard from childhood

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about the underground passages that are often

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located under church buildings.

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Smuggling

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merchants

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find a lot of ways for moving goods.

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But almost no one studies them,

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or rather, almost no one. One enthusiast from the

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Stolen History forum analyzed

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228 legends of tunnels from eastern England.

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So 122 tunnels

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end in church name places, such as

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'abbey'

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'cathedral', 'chapel', 'church', 'monastery'.

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A lot of tunnels connect

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seemingly contradictory places. For example, taverns and pubs are

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connected with a nunnery or

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church; churches also had underground

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passages to the local market and it is strange that

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these tunnels were almost always

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found by chance; there is no mention of their construction.

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They are not just in the city but in non-church

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choirs,

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and it’s as if some people built the tunnels

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and built houses and churches over the tunnels

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completely different. It's like in the H. G. Wells

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novel The Time Machine. On the surface

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live happy people who go about

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their business and

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enjoy the sun but right under the feet of

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these happy people hid another

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eerie world of brick tunnels where

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Morlocks live. Morlocks rise at night from

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their brick tunnels and eats

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happy Elois. It seems that these are all the

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fantasies of crazy science fiction writers, but in Europe the

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cult of fairy tales is very common and the

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eater of

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small children in Bern even has a monument to

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one eater. All these

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stories seem to hint to us about some kind of power

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that uses people as food, but it's

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all mysticism. Let's move on to interesting

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facts of the

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political history of England and events

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that are associated with attacks by peasants

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on churches and, more interestingly, on the

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meat market (like Smithfields). In England,

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skewers

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for long pigs are often found in kitchensi. English

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nouns

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for various religious structures are

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surprisingly similar to English nouns

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that

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are associated with the meat trade and meat

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processing. In England there were many

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pubs called the Jolly Friar.

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In many underground tunnels of England

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hooks for meat hang from

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the walls. Special cups for human fat have been preserved.

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;

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Stamford, where 40 nuns live, they

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discovered vaulted rooms three

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meters high.

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For some reason, at the site of

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convents and orphanages, they still

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find mass graves of children and

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babies. In Ireland at the site of the excavation of

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the former home of mothers and children in

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County Galway.

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divided into 20 chambers containing a

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significant number of human

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remains, a total of 800 people

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aged 35 weeks to three years. This

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orphanage was ran by a Catholic order of

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nuns.

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Also in Lincoln, England, the clergy

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collected the blood of infants and

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young children until 1535 to treat

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diseases such as leprosy.

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All this speaks of some strange

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connection between English churches and monasteries with

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local markets,

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then faithful and hospitals for the treatment of

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lepers of mankind. Already before the 14th century,

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according to official history, mankind experienced a network of

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catastrophic events as a result of

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which the great famine of 1315 arose,

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and after this famine appeared a

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huge number Catholic churches

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with a refectory.

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Women's monasteries appeared where

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they brought up small children

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and, by a strange coincidence, the

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churches and monasteries of England were very often

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connected by underground passages with local

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markets. Of course, this could be just a

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coincidence, but by a strange

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coincidence at the beginning of the 19th century, when the

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world economy recovered and in

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almost all countries the food problem was solved,

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in England,

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a lot of small workers appeared at all enterprises.

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That is, teenagers,

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adolescents, worked in all areas

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from cotton mills to coal mines. At the

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end of the 19th century, a concept arose in the USA

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such that orphan

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trains carried teenagers around the American continent by trains

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and gave them to everyone. It was

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not the adoption of teenagers; they were delivered

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as free labor. And the

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conclusion is: that the system

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that used children as a product

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outlived its usefulness in the 18th century, but there

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were a lot of children in monasteries in order to somehow

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use them, they began to be given up for

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production.

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This is, of course, a very controversial theory, but all the

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facts say that the history of the Middle

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Ages

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does not look as beautiful as it is painted in

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romantic engravings. There was a hunger, eating

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...

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parchment medicines of their own kind

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from human bodies and even great

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campaigns armies of many thousands are no longer

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surprising because the main question is what the

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army feeds on in a campaign that lasts for

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years, this is what it feeds on the

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history of mankind of the Middle Ages

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can convey this symbol.

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[music]

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on this all see my channel

If any Russian-speakers want to fill in the small gaps in the .srt file, that would be helpful.

The video is briefly discussed at: Ферма. Неприятня история человечества. (Russian), (Google English translation). Pi's Story has other Russian-language alt history videos at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-EPqVgGmilMJtqKa3kzZNg (Russian), (Google English translation).

Pi's Story helpfully provided YT viewers with a link to Stolen History's version of this material. They should update the link in their YT notes to this index post. Then their readers could more easily navigate through the two Stolen History threads.

I think he did a better job of wrapping it all up than I have. We could take step back and look at the big picture: our situation. Starting with ourselves and the implications of Eugene McCarthy's claims about the origins of human DNA.

In the Westworld clip at the bottom of this post, two guests discuss the Westworld park. They know they are in a pleasure garden and they plan what they could do. They talk about host Freddy sitting outside the door:

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"We can use him for target practice." Source: Westworld S01, Ep01

Freddy can probably hear them. Their conversation should tip him off there is something wrong with his understanding of 'his' world. But if he does think about what they are saying, he doesn't react. He wouldn't hurt a fly.

By the way, the mirror in that clip is being used for a film-maker's trick. It comments about the nature of the viewer. You see mirrors used this way in various films, especially Kubrick's. Also in What Lies Beneath and two minutes into V for Vendetta.

In the clip below, another host - Dolores Abernathy - is tipped off that something is wrong with her understanding of 'her' world:

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Out of the mouths of babes... Source: Westworld S01, Ep01

An hour or two later, her father Peter Abernathy is also tipped off:

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Peter Abernathy finds a colour photograph of modern New York. Source Westworld S01, Ep01

Later, Peter and Dolores discuss their day. He shows her the photograph:

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It doesn't look like anything to me." Source: Westworld, S01, Ep01

For Peter, Revelation has begun. For Dolores, Revelation loses this round to her loyalty loop. For Teddy, it's as if nothing has happened.

Same for each of us. Are you thinking about the implications? Or are you one of the guests here?

 

[huskofahuman]

The European Elite, really aren't European Elite.

Russian Youtube channel "Pi's Story" weaves together this and the cannibalism thread's evidence that European and English elites used humans as food, medicine and material resources. Plus some interesting bits from elsewhere:

The Farm: The Unpleasant History of Mankind​

Auto-translated English subtitle file attached to this post. If any Russian-speakers want to fill in the small gaps in the .srt file, that would be helpful.

I found the video at: Ферма. Неприятня история человечества. (Russian), (Google English translation). Pi's Story has other Russian-language alt history videos at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-EPqVgGmilMJtqKa3kzZNg (Russian), (Google English translation).

I posted these videos here once long ago, since they are probably lost, I will post them again. We are indeed food for the elite, of every country.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H73zcTb_-Q



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mILA45Ot7eE



View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/eIKsq0gPqAjK/



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6tG-5OlUgA

 

[usselo]

The European Elite, really aren't European Elite.

There's some really interesting clips in there. These two stood out for me:

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Dale wakes up amid banqueting room portraits. Source: Tales from the Crypt. Mournin' Mess

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Bill learns he's from the wrong class. Source: Society, 1989

I see a Simpsons episode and clips from Midnight on the Meat Train. I'd like to know where the other clips came from, particularly the boy testing a dimensional doorway.

 

[huskofahuman]

There's some really interesting clips in there. These two stood out for me:

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Dale wakes up amid banqueting room portraits. Source: Tales from the Crypt. Mournin' Mess

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Bill learns he's from the wrong class. Source: Society, 1989

I see a Simpsons episode and clips from Midnight on the Meat Train. I'd like to know where the other clips came from, particularly the boy testing a dimensional doorway.

I think the dimensional doorway came froma movie I watched a long time ago, called 'Gate'. They also had something similar in the Phantasm movies if you've ever seen them, the two pillar bar things as usual opening a gate to elsewhere.

 

[usselo]

I think the dimensional doorway came froma movie I watched a long time ago, called 'Gate'. They also had something similar in the Phantasm movies if you've ever seen them, the two pillar bar things as usual opening a gate to elsewhere.

Dropping a credit and a link here to EAFU's earlier thread about Society and the excellent posts in that thread.

I found The Gate, 1987, but that seems to be a different film from whatever this clip was taken from:

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British TV occasionally puts the idea of small dimensional doorways in front of children. Eg Timeslip, 1970:

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Source

And recently in the TV series His Dark Materials, 2019. Probably others. And then there are the big budget Stargate type doorways...

We could go into why our mind-managers drop hints - seemingly expensively produced film hints - but that's a different post. Instead, do they tell us about something real?

The thread about the mystery of windroses and rhumb-lines on old maps could give us a clue. So might pro-vladimir's series of articles: 'Transport Systems of the Past'. The auto-translation from Russian, the exploratory style, and the now-missing images are hard going but if you are interested in evidence of dimensional doorways in the past, read them while there is something left.

Elites eating amid portraits crop up in Rev. George Oliver's A History of the Holy Trinity Guild Church at Sleaford, an 1846 history of the high heath between Lincoln and Sleaford. It seemed important to Oliver to detail how Sir Francis "Hellfire Club" Dashwood's successor Sir John King Dashwood added a large room to Dunston Pillar pleasure gardens (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) to "accommodate" its customers. (page 11)

And that Thomas Chaplin built the Green Man Inn banqueting room (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) just down the road. Lining it with plaster portraits of the elite customers who ate and drank (apparently heavily) there. And how some busts had been removed and others defaced. (page 13)

And - significantly - Oliver tells us that Temple Bruer's preceptor ate, drank and lived among the feudal predecessors of these entities. Oliver tells us that in addition to the preceptor's three homes, he owned a nearby warrener's house (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) or here (Google Maps), (Google Streetview). This, we're told, had a vault underneath. Oliver tells us that only a willow tree grows there now (1846). But that the locals say it: 'grows from the prior's oven.' (page 33)

This is odd because orthodox history says Temple Bruer's officials were arrested in the Templar dissolution of 1312. And that in 1540 Henry VIII sold the property - by then theoretically just a farm - to Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk. How could a Knights Templar preceptor be supping with - and apparently supplying food and services to - 17th century elite?

Unless orthodox history is wrong and the Templars were "dissolved" a lot later than we are told. Like the Romans. In a catastrophe now described as Oliver Cromwell's physical destruction of Temple Bruer in approx 1643.

Also odd is Oliver's pointed reference to the priors' oven beneath the preceptor-owned house. Priors' ovens seem to have been very problematic in earlier times. Although Oliver doesn't explain why, British folklore does. It says ecclesiasts bought children for slaughter and baked their blood into special celebratory bread. That's what is being referred to in from minute 9:07 in huskofahuman's second YT video.

What Oliver does say is that many stone crosses in the area had been reduced to stumps - "stump crosses":

when the injunction of Bishop Horne was promulgated at his visitation in 1571 ; that "all Images of the Trinity in glass windows or other places of the church be put out and extinguished, together with *the Stone Cross in the church-yards*."

Why would a Bishop order the destruction of stone crosses, do you think? Oliver doesn't say, but he continues in weirdly excessive detail to describe how the now-damaged crosses were originally built. Oliver is seemingly obsessed with describing the remaining bases of these crosses. He tells us "marketplace" crosses were singled out for the most damage. And that these were usually sited at crossroads between "religious" houses. Describing two crosses south of the Green Man Inn, Oliver says:

One stood ... on the west side of the turnpike leading to Sleaford, opposite to the Roxham-lane... This was called the Butter Cross, having been formerly used by the vendors of that article in the market. ... The other, called the Bakers' Cross, was situated on a hill where four roads met north of the village.

These two sites are on the main road to:

• Temple Bruer (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) - where Oliver found a room filled with pure lime (page 30), and skeletons of all ages were found burned in a crypt beneath the Knights Templar 'temple' (page 28 or see end of post)
• Dunston Pillar "pleasure gardens". (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)
• The Green Man Inn dining room.
• The above-mentioned house with an unexplained underground vault.

Elsewhere in Chapter I, Oliver switches to Latin to comment on the irony of a destroyed cross whose base has been converted into stocks.

Why?

Oliver is telling readers that the crosses were tethering places for children being sold to the Knights Templars and the elites. It's a cheaper, more manageable method of restraining human livestock during market day inspection and sale than is building a jail at every marketplace.

That is the real reason 10,000 of England's 12,000 market crosses were destroyed by 1650. Shortly after Pompeii was really destroyed.

And we can see why Oliver recorded the locations of the remaining bases of crosses: all of them marked bad memories that required managing.Some of them marked the locations of lockups. Three publicly-known examples still exist, though orthodox historians don't acknowledge their original purpose:

• Royston Cave (Google Maps), (Google Streetview), which was found under Roysia's Cross (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) - site of a "butter market".
• Fowlmere tunnel and cross war memorial. (Google Maps), (Google Streetview).
• Deeping St James lockup and cross (Google Maps), (Google Streetview), (imagery and notes in this post).

Why did some crosses mark the sites of "Butter Markets" and why were they sometimes called "Butter Crosses"?

From huskofahuman's Society clip above:

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You say 'Lard', I say 'Butter'. Source: Society: 1989

Together with the loss of a furry cover, human skin acquired a hypodermal fatty layer (panniculus adiposus) which is considerably thicker than that found in other primates, or mammals for that matter.

William Montagna, The Evolution of Human Skin, Journal of Human Evolution, 1985, 14, 14. Source

Humans are among the fattest mammals at birth reflecting a rapid fat deposition during the third trimester of pregnancy. For most mammals, roughly 2-3% of birth weight is fat. A newborn human baby is made up of 16% fat, whereas a new-born chimpanzee averages 3% of birth weight as body fat

Source

Perhaps the nutritional and utility value of human babies - partially explored in this post above and in this post - as the result of product design decisions now becomes clearer.

And from Joseph Beldam's 1859 "explanation" of Royston Cave:

A Butter Market existed in late medieval times at The Cross... It may even have incorporated a small prison cell as part of a first floor structure. In 1742, nearly a century after the commissioners had drawn up their survey, workers doing some minor building work in the butter market found a mill stone in the floor. Dropping a line down the central hole seemed to suggest the stone was concealing a very deep hole beneath it and this was confirmed when the stone was dragged away revealing a narrow vertical shaft descending into the chalk.

This 1742 discovery of Royston Cave may well have kicked off frantic sponsorship of Britain's antiquarian movement. Records of their itineraries (Ie, surveying tours), their attraction to ploughmen's finds and their detailing of seemingly trivial aspects of old structures may indeed have reflected an autistic curiousity. But just as likely, it reflected their sponsors' fear that builders would find new "Royston Caves" beneath England's former market crosses. And that ploughboys would keep finding vaults beneath the stones they were clearing out of England's mudflooded fields.

Dunston Pillar "pleasure gardens" is the reason I included (in this post and at the bottom of this post) the Westworld clip where an experienced guest tells a new guest:

You ride out of town... that's when the real demented shit begins.

It's a reference to "pleasure gardens" like the Nocton Hall/Dunston Pillar complex (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) some ten miles south of Lincoln - where humans were offered on the table and as targets in the neighbouring wood. Denials and inconsistencis in accounts of Sir "Hellfire Club" Francis Dashwood's ownership of this "Hunger Games" complex is a major clue that the history of this location is being covered up.

Lincoln Heath is not the only place where archaeologists have simply avoided trying to explain away oddities. At Knobb's Farm in Cambridgeshire, logic tells us that the bizarrely executed adult slave skeletons were not killed - as archaeologists claim - by "extreme discipline" or "extreme justice". They were killed during weapons training, perhaps for skills development with the weapons involved. How do we know? The victims were killed while held, while kneeling and, apparently while running away. 13 of them lay face down, suggesting they were left where they fell. Many appear to have been cut up:

Drunk executioners? Or a weapons test? Source​

Several were slashed multiple times with precise cuts from a weapon's edge or tip. Try this description of the remains of a woman who was repeatedly slashed, taken from: Extreme Justice, Decapitations and Prone Burials in Three Late-Roman Cemetaries at Knobbs Farm, Cambridgeshire:

There are no cut marks or associated trauma directly relating to decapitation and no evidence to explain the fragmentation of the jaw. There are, however, numerous other cuts marks on the skeleton ...

Two cut marks on the right side of the mandible appear to have targeted the temporomandibular ligament which attaches the mandible to the cranium.

Additionally, the right ear appears to have been partially chopped off with a glancing blow, likely retained by a flap of soft tissue; this is evidenced by two loose, sharp-bordered bone fragments from immediately behind and in front of the ear, as well as a chop mark into the top of the mandible. The profile of the cut marks suggests a sharp, heavy blade directed from above and behind.

There is a third, fine vertical cut mark, 4.5 mm long, on the lower lingual inside of the mandible, aligned approximately with the left canine.

Elsewhere on the body, there are: two fine cut marks (c. 1.2 mm long) to the left clavicle, specifically across the long axis of the superior and posterior borders; multiple fine cut marks, 5–40 mm long, angled across the posterior of the left and right humeri, which would have severed the triceps muscle; a total of six cut marks 1–2 mm long to the posterior side of the radii (four to the right, two to the left), which would have cut through the superior part of the extensor muscle group; multiple fine cut marks across the back of the left femur, presumably severing the tendons of the adductor muscle group, although these cuts would probably have missed the major arteries and veins of the leg. That these fine marks were mostly parallel and orientated in the same direction suggests a human cause rather than a natural one. Together with the cut marks on the mandible, they might indicate butchery or de-fleshing. A lack of healing suggests this occurred around the time of death, but it is not possible to distinguish whether they were made immediately before death (resulting from, for example, torture or flaying) or after death (for example, from corpse mutilation, post-mortem punishment or ritual de-fleshing

Not my idea of 'judicial killing'. Source​

It's not clear but if the small arrows in this diagram point to cuts through the bones, then you are looking at three limbs that were apparently sliced up one section after another.

Altogether, they look like the remains of weapons training or a weapons test. The biggest mystery is what the weapon really was.

Elite eating houses also feature in many English urban tunnel legends. Typically these structures are:

• The Assembly Rooms
• The Guildhall, or
• The Corn Exchange
• Pubs, taverns, inns and hotels

With these ideas in mind, Wikipedia's page on Assembly Rooms is worth reading carefully. So is the page on Newark-upon-Trent's Ossington Coffee Palace. The Assembly Rooms in Stamford (England) still has large vaults beneath it, extending beneath the former ballroom next door. The vaults are rumoured to have been connected to the town's extensive tunnel network. Why would that connection have been necessary?

The Corn Exchange (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) in Hertford (England) is labelled as former jail (gaol).

Hertford Corn Exchange. 2m stick, 4m door​

It's not just the door - it's the visibly large cellars. Its official address as number 42 Fore Street is said to be the centre of Hertford's vast underground tunnel network. See also here. And always pay attention when someone claims absence of official confirmation is proof of non-existence.

Tollbooths - the Scottish version of Guildhalls - frequently contained lockups. Guildhalls and tollbooths were where ordinary folks paid taxes. What form did their taxes take? Their first born? That would certainly require lockable cages.

Rev George Oliver lived, preached and taught in quite a few places around England. He was a mason, a school teacher, a headmaster and a clergyman who set up schools, Sunday Schools, re-established church congregations, and had a substantial hand in writing masonic teachings.

So, Oliver was in the education game but he was establishing education in a wider sense, seemingly implementing four 'levels' of knowledge-management:

• Ubiquitous basic education: "The Three 'Rs'".
• Education for the professional classes (masonry) to propagate management techniques into the future.
• 'Spiritual' education. Really obedience-building, ie Christianity, rebuilding shattered churches (former meat processing centres) as convenient central structures for training loyalty and obedience.
• Clean up of memories and tales of what had gone on before.

In this he was 'sponsored' by the Tennyson family (as in Alfred Lord Tennyson) - who were themselves likely acting in their own interests but on behalf of others. The reason I think this is that we know Oliver was not alone in devising how to attract the (remaining) ordinary population into England's at that time dilapidated churches.

Lincoln Cathedral's management - for one - seem to have been grateful. A large monument of Alfred Lord Tennyson stands in their grounds. Ironically - or perhaps not - it overlooks the excavated remains a few yards away of one of Lincoln's 'Roman' gates - still standing three metres below today's ground level (Google Maps), (Google Streetview).

Did Oliver's sponsors read his surveys of butcher-shop England's embarrassing remains of market crosses? Did they decide to explain away the memories of them with an invented crucifixion story? Perhaps as the core story of their newly-created religion?

Around 1790, the Hon. John Byng wrote up his tours visiting dilapidated churches, stately homes and (allegedly) fake ruins around eastern England. He was part of a group who frequently split up to explore different areas before regrouping. Just like Oliver, Byng was noting local lore, records, legends and remains. And his expenses. But only rarely does he record in his diary what he heard and found. So, on page 99 of his Torrington Diaries, while waiting for his colleagues he notes:

In the meantime, must write down, or remember, "Each trivial Law, each petty fond [found] Record."

And further down the same page:

Upon an opposite Hill is a large Farm House, call'd Canon-Park Manor House; which has been of good account.

On page 122 Byng describes a partially rebuilt and only partially used Peterborough Cathedral. On page 139 he again says no-one goes to church anymore and suggests a cheap way for the local rich to rebuild a congregation: encourage the local population's children to sing in churches on Sundays.

put forth a little Chorus of Children

Mum, Dad and granny were bound to come listen, even join in.

Is Byng revealing that church choirs originated as a marketing gimmick? Is he also revealing that English Christianity is a Pay-As-You-Obey money and obedience mechanism invented by England's post-catastrophe elites? Or is he revealing both?

Telling also, are Byng's visits to east England's stately homes. He describes being shown around buildings and grounds in varying states of disarray. They are more or less empty. He describes big Lincolnshire stately homes Grimesthorpe Castle (Google Maps), (Google Streetview), (Torrington Diaries, page 127) and Belvoir Castle (Google Maps), (Google Streetview), (Torrington Diaries, page 133) as being semi ruinous, with virtually no furniture, no facilities and almost no staff. Belvoir, he says, is stacked with the owner's newly acquired paintings waiting to be hung and little else.

Here Belvoir-Castle rises to the View, in awful State. In our way we passed by the ruin'd Church of Woolsthorp... We then walk'd up The Hill Belvoir-Castle, where every thing is in neglect, and Ruin, and in such a state it has long been... In this Condition was the House found by the late duke...

30 years later Oliver reported he also found large east England mansions had gone empty. Eg "the fine mansion" of Culverthorpe Hall (Google Maps), (Google Streetview):

The last male descendant of the Newtons died here in 1803 ; and the house remaining 20 years without a tenant, became the residence of its present occupier, Henry Handley, Esq., M. P.

The Historic England version of this period, per CULVERTHORPE HALL, Culverthorpe and Kelby - 1000974 | Historic England is:

for much of the time Culverthorpe was let.

These descriptions suggest that:

• Before 1790, east England had been largely depopulated, particularly of its previous elite. And:
• Today's official sources are not inclined to admit this.

In Itinerarium Curiosum, Second Edition, 1776, p29, antiquarian William Stukeley comments about Burgh (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) near the mid-Lincolnshire coast:

In the yards and gardens about the town they frequently dig up bodies.

On page 31, near Horncastle (Google Maps), (Google Streetview), a bit more than ten miles further inland:

Near the walls upon digging cellars they sometimes find bodies buried.

Elsewhere, Stukeley writes of finding timber in "Roman" ruins that is still burnable.

Byng mentions his young adult companion who is also travelling by horse but does not know it needs shoes (Torrington Diaries, page 138). That's like a modern 20 year old car owner not knowing that car wheels need tyres. Or what a farrier or smith did for a living. 'Smith' is the most common last name in England. This is bizarre if travel in those times was as horse-centred as we are taught it was.

Byng also refers to his own efforts to teach himself to drive a light horse carriage in a west London street - and breaking its shaft. You would think an adult 'gentleman' would have learned how to drive a carriage in a more formal, dignity-maintaining, private environment. In John Wheale's London Exhibited 1852, there are similar accounts of elites learning to drive the novel carriages in London's Hyde Park.

Both Wheale and Byng read as though a new elite had just acquired horses and were learning how to drive them when hitched to carriages. As if carriages were new toys and there was no previous experience to draw upon.

Chronologically, these clues point to a series of events seem to have happened, perhaps centred on the 17th Century (beginning before and developing after the year marked as '1651'). Events that freed their human survivors from being animals farmed by the entities that built these these transport systems, these banqueting rooms and their vaults.

There seems to have been a century or two of human freedom - for the small pool of humans that survived those events - followed by another suppression beginning just prior to the 19th Century. That suppression seems to have revolved around the idea of re-establishing humans as slaves but this time as slaves-who-don't-know-it. Our Pay-As-You-Obey class. The great exhibitions seem to be a review of those remnant technologies that humans had managed to understand. Followed by the commercialisation of some and the hiding away of others.

You could wonder if high tech weapons and dimensional doorways ever featured in some roped-off backroom at one of those great exhibitions.

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Excerpt from Rev George Oliver's description of skeletons he found under Temple Bruer:

Another skeleton of an aged man was found in these dungeons, with only one tooth in his head. His body seems to have been thrown down without order or decency, for he lay doubled up ; and in the fore part of his skull were two holes, which had evidently been produced by violence. In a corner of one of these vaults, many plain indications of burning exists. The wall stones have assumed the colour of brick, and great quantities of cinders mixed with human skulls and bones ; all of which had been submitted to the operation of fire, and some of them perfectly calcined. This horrible cavern had also been closed up with masonry. Underneath the cloisters, between the church and the tower, many human bones were discovered, which appear to have been thrown together in the utmost confusion, and laying in different strata, some deep and some very near the surface ; amongst which were the skeleton of a very young child, and the skull of an adult, with a round hole in the upper part, into which the end of a little finger might be inserted, and which was probably the cause of death. Near these interments was a vast mass of burnt matter of various descriptions ; and the fire had been so fierce, that the external surface of a massive cylindrical column, which was discovered near, is completely cinerated. Several large square stones were taken up with iron rings attached ; and altogether, the ruins exhibit woeful symptons of crime and unfair dealing. We can scarcely forbear entertaining the opinion that these are the crumbling remains of unhappy persons, who had been confined in the dungeons of the preceptory ; for the Templars and their successors were always in feud with their neighbours

 

[Gypsum Fantastic]

At Knobb's Farm in Cambridgeshire the executed adult slave skeletons were not killed by "extreme discipline" or "extreme justice".

"33 per cent" of them it says

 

[huskofahuman]

Dropping a credit and a link here to EAFU's earlier thread about Society and the excellent posts in that thread.

I found The Gate, 1987, but that seems to be a different film from whatever this clip was taken from:

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British TV occasionally puts the idea of small dimensional doorways in front of children. Eg Timeslip, 1970, and recently in the TV series His Dark Materials, 2019. Probably others. And then there are the big budget Stargate type doorways...

We could go into why our mind-managers drop hints - seemingly expensively produced film hints - but that's a different post. Do they tell us about something real?

The thread about the mystery of windroses and rhumb-lines on old maps could give us a clue. So might pro-vladimir's series of articles: 'Transport Systems of the Past'. The auto-translation from Russian, the exploratory style, and the now-missing images make the articles hard going but if you are interested in evidence for dimensional doorways of the past, it is worth reading while there is any of it left.

Elites eating amid portraits from the past crops up in odd ways in Rev George Oliver's histories of the high heath between Lincoln
(Google Maps), (Google Streetview) and Sleaford (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) in England. Odd in that it seems to him very important to mention that Baron X built a banqueting room by his Dunstan Pillar pleasure gardens (Google Maps), (Google Streetview), and that Baron Y built a dining room at the nearby Green Man Inn. Then lined it with busts of the elite entities that ate there. And that, by Oliver's time, certain busts have been removed and others defaced... And that a certain clergyman had at the time lived in a now-ruined house nearby - which had a vault underneath it. From which only a willow tree now grows. A willow tree that locals say: 'grows from the prior's oven.'

Oliver's description of the activities of The Lincoln Club around the Green Man Inn banqueting room can be found in Chapter I of Oliver's A History of the Holy Trinity Guild Church at Sleaford. They end with the unexplained reference to the prior's oven.

Priors' ovens seem to have carried a problematic reputation in earlier times. Although Oliver doesn't explain why, British folklore does. It says ecclesiasts bought children for slaughter and baked their blood into special celebratory bread.

What Oliver does go on to say is that many stone crosses in the area had been reduced to stumps - "stump crosses":


Why would a Bishop order the destruction of stone crosses, do you think? Oliver doesn't say, but in an unnecessarily detailed description of how the now-damaged crosses were originally built - Oliver is seemingly obsessed with the bases of crosses - he tells us that marketplace crosses were singled out for most destruction. He tells us they were usually sited where roads between "religious" houses crossed. Describing two crosses south of the Green Man Inn, Oliver says:



These two sites are on the main road to:

• Temple Bruer (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) - where skeletons of all ages were found burned in a crypt beneath a Knights Templar 'temple' (see end of post)
• Dunston Pillar "pleasure gardens". (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)
• The Green Man Inn dining room.
• The above-mentioned house with an unexplained underground vault.

Elsewhere in Chapter I, Oliver switches to Latin to comment on the irony of a cross whose base has been converted into stocks.

Oliver is telling readers that the crosses were used as tethers for children being sold to the Knights Templars and the post-Templar elites. It's a cheaper, more manageable method of restraining human product during inspection and sale than building a jail at every crossroads market. And we can see why he was noting details of the cross bases: some crosses marked the locations of lockups. Three publicly-known examples of the latter do exist, though their original purpose remains unacknowledged:

• Royston Cave - previously topped by Roysia's Cross (site of a "butter" market) (Google Maps), (Google Streetview)
• Fowlmere tunnel and war memorial
• Deeping St James lockup and cross (and this post)

but they are dismissed as mysteries.

That is the real reason 10,000 of England's 12,000 market crosses were destroyed by 1650. Shortly after Pompeii was really destroyed. They're the remnants of a vast destruction.

Why the association of some crosses with "Butter Markets" and - sometimes - "Butter Crosses"?

From huskofahuman's Society clip above:

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You say 'Lard', I say 'Butter'. Source: Society: 1989

And from the Royston Cave (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) link above:



This 1742 discovery of Royston Cave may well have kicked off Britain's antiquarian movement. Records of their itineraries (Ie, surveying tours), their attraction to ploughmen's finds and their detailing of seemingly trivial aspects of old structures may have reflected austistic levels of curiousity. Or it may have reflected their sponsors' fear that builders would keep finding new "Royston Caves" beneath England's former market crosses.

Dunston Pillar "pleasure gardens" is the reason I included in this post and at the bottom of this post the Westworld clip where an experienced guest tells a new guest:



It's a reference to "pleasure gardens" like the Nocton Hall/Dunston Pillar complex some ten miles south of Lincoln - where humans were offered on the table and in the woods around as targets. Denials and inconsistencis in accounts of Sir "Hellfire Club" Francis Dashwood's ownership of this "Hunger Games" complex is a major clue that the history of this location is being covered up.

Nor was Lincoln Heath the only place where archaeologists struggle to explain away oddities. At Knobb's Farm in Cambridgeshire, logic tells us that the executed adult slave skeletons were not killed by "extreme discipline" or "extreme justice". They were killed during weapons training, perhaps for skills development with the weapons involved. How do we know? The victims were killed while held, while kneeling and, apparently while running away. 13 of them lay face down, suggesting they were left where they fell. Many appear to have been cut up:

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Drunk executioners? Or a weapons test? Source​

Several were slashed multiple times with what seem to have been very precise cuts from the weapon edge or tip. Read this description of the remains of a woman who was repeatedly slashed. From: Extreme Justice, Decapitations and Prone Burials in Three Late-Roman Cemetaries at Knobbs Farm, Cambridgeshire:

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Not my idea of 'judicial killing'. Source​

It's not clear but if the small arrows in this diagram point to cuts through the bones, then you are looking at three limbs that were apparently sliced up.

Altogether, they look like the remains of weapons training or a weapons test. The biggest mystery is what the weapon really was.

Elite eating houses also feature in many English urban tunnel legends. Typically these structures are:

• The Assembly Rooms
• The Guildhall, or
• The Corn Exchange
• Pubs, taverns, inns and hotels

With these ideas in mind, Wikipedia's page on Assembly Rooms is worth reading carefully. So is the page on Newark-upon-Trent's Ossington Coffee Palace. The Assembly Rooms in Stamford (England) still has large vaults beneath it, extending beneath the former ballroom next door. The vaults are rumoured to have been connected to the town's extensive tunnel network. Why would that connection have been necessary?

The Corn Exchange (Google Maps), (Google Streetview) in Hertford (England) is labelled as former jail (gaol).

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Hertford Corn Exchange. 2m stick, 4m door​

It's not just the door - it's the visibly large cellars. Its official address as number 42 Fore Street is said to be the centre of Hertford's vast underground tunnel network. See also here. And always pay attention when someone claims absence of official confirmation is proof of non-existence.

Tollbooths - the Scottish version of Guildhalls - frequently contained lockups. Guildhalls and tollbooths were where ordinary folks paid taxes. What form did their taxes take? Their first born? That would certainly require lockable cages.

Rev George Oliver lived, preached and taught in quite a few places around England. He was a mason, a school teacher, a headmaster and a clergyman who set up schools, Sunday Schools, re-established church congregations, and had a substantial hand in writing masonic teachings.

So, Oliver was in the education game but he was establishing education in a wider sense, seemingly implementing four 'levels' of knowledge-management:

• Ubiquitous basic education: "The Three 'Rs'".
• Education for the professional classes (masonry) to propagate management techniques into the future.
• 'Spiritual' education. Really obedience-building, ie Christianity, rebuilding shattered churches (former meat processing centres) as convenient central structures for training loyalty and obedience.
• Clean up of memories and tales of what had gone on before.

In this he was 'sponsored' by the Tennyson family (as in Alfred Lord Tennyson) - who were themselves likely acting in their own interests but on behalf of others. The reason I think this is that we know Oliver was not alone in devising how to attract the (remaining) ordinary population into England's at that time dilapidated churches.

Lincoln Cathedral's management - for one - seem to have been grateful. A large monument of Alfred Lord Tennyson stands in their grounds. Ironically - or perhaps not - it looks towards the excavated remains of one of Lincoln's 'Roman' gates still standing three metres below today's ground level.

Did Oliver's sponsors read his surveys of butcher-shop England's embarrassing market crosses remains and decide to explain their the memories away with an invented crucifixion story? Perhaps as the core story of their newly-created religion?

Around 1790, the Hon. John Byng wrote up his tours visiting dilapidated churches, stately homes and (allegedly) fake ruins around eastern England. He was part of a group who frequently split up to explore different areas before regrouping. Just like Oliver, Byng was noting local lore, records, legends and remains. And his expenses. But only rarely does he record in his diary what he heard and found. So, on page 99 of his Torrington Diaries, while waiting for his colleagues he notes:



And further down the same page:



On page 122 he describes a partially rebuilt and only partially used Peterborough Cathedral. On page 139 he again says no-one goes to church anymore and suggests a cheap way for the local rich to rebuild a congregation: encourage the local population's children to sing in churches on Sundays.



Mum, Dad and granny were bound to come listen, even join in.

Is Byng revealing that church choirs originated as a marketing gimmick? Or is he also revealing that English Christianity is a Pay-As-You-Obey money and obedience mechanism invented by England's post-catastrophe elites?

Telling also, are Byng's visits to east England's stately homes. He describes being shown around buildings and grounds in varying states of disarray. They are more or less empty. He describes big Lincolnshire stately homes Grimesthorpe Castle (Google Maps), (Google Streetview), (Torrington Diaries, page 127) and Belvoir Castle (Google Maps), (Google Streetview), (Torrington Diaries, page 133) as being semi ruinous, with virtually no furniture, no facilities and almost no staff. Belvoir, he says, is stacked with the owner's newly acquired paintings waiting to be hung and little else.



30 years later Oliver reported he also found large east England mansions had gone empty. Eg "the fine mansion" of Culverthorpe Hall (Google Maps), (Google Streetview):



The Historic England version of this period, per CULVERTHORPE HALL, Culverthorpe and Kelby - 1000974 | Historic England is:



These descriptions suggest that:

• Before 1790, east England had been largely depopulated, espeically of its previous elite. And
• Today's official sources are not inclined to admit this.

Byng mentions his young adult companion who is also travelling by horse but does not know it needs shoes (Torrington Diaries, page 138). That's like a modern 20 year old car owner not knowing a car's wheels need tyres. This is bizarre if travel in those times was as horse-centred as we are taught it was.

Byng also refers to his own efforts to teach himself to drive a light horse carriage in west London - and breaking its shaft. You would think an adult 'gentleman' would be taught how to drive a carriage in a more formal, dignity-maintaining, private environment. In John Wheale's London Exhibited 1852, there are similar accounts of elites learning to deal with the novelty of carriages from London's Hyde Park.

Wheale and Byng read as though a new elite had just acquired horses and were learning how to hitch them to carriages. As if carriages were new toys. Then they were learning how to use them in public.

Chronologically, these clues point to a series of events seem to have happened, perhaps centred on the 17th Century (beginning before and developing after the year marked as '1651'). Events that freed their human survivors from being animals farmed by the entities that built these these transport systems, these banqueting rooms and their vaults.

There seems to have been a century or two of human freedom - for the small pool of humans that survived those events - followed by another suppression beginning just prior to the 19th Century. That suppression seems to have revolved around the idea of re-establishing humans as slaves but this time as slaves-who-don't-know-it. Our Pay-As-You-Obey class. The great exhibitions seem to be a review of those remnant technologies that humans had managed to understand. Followed by the commercialisation of some and the hiding away of others.

You could wonder if high tech weapons and dimensional doorways ever featured in some roped-off backroom at one of those great exhibitions.

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Excerpt from Rev George Oliver's description of skeletons he found under Temple Bruer:

Aye, the first video you posted up there is from Phantasm, you've probably seen one at one time or another. It has the tall man in it, a Mortician that throws these balls at people that have protruding spikes. He also has an army of some kind of goblin creatures that help him which look like Jawas.

 

[usselo]

"33 per cent" of them it says

Yes. It helps remind you that nothing you read - and do not directly see for yourself - should be taken as true.

huskofahuman said:

Aye, the first video you posted up there is from Phantasm, you've probably seen one at one time or another. It has the tall man in it, a Mortician that throws these balls at people that have protruding spikes. He also has an army of some kind of goblin creatures that help him which look like Jawas.

Thanks, found them. I have a post in mind just for clips of media tells. If I could get some clips from films showing North Sea floods (provisionally, years: 1285-1287, 1530-1540, and perhaps 1710-1712), they could all be released as a "English History: The Truth" video.

I'd also include these:

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Eloi bred like cattle. Source: The Time Machine, 1960

For evidence of real-life Eloi, see this post.

'Elloi' was also a place:

Elloi, Lincolnshire, UK. Source​

It still is. Now it's called 'South Holland':

South Holland, Lincolnshire, UK. Source​

South Holland is noted for missing historical documents, an oddly well-funded historical society, a still standing "prior's oven" and Lincolnshire pork sausages.

South Holland prides itself on its thriving butchers scene

Source

Human bone processor Narborough bone mill is just a few miles away:

Narborough Bone Mill. Source​

A world without adults also shows up in Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials - in Cittàgazze:

The city is plagued by ghostly beings called Spectres. Spectres are invisible to pre-adolescents, but once individuals are old enough to see them, the Spectres eat away their dæmons, leaving them zombie-like and lifeless. Hence, the city is entirely devoid of adults, and populated only by small gangs of children. Spectres cluster around children approaching adolescence and consume them as soon as they come of age.

Source

Perhaps that's how it looks when you live on a farm and older stock disappear.

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Church equipment as cargo cult, Humans as fatted cattle. Source: The Time Machine, 1960

For evidence of real life church equipment as cargo cult, see this post and this post. And these.

For another clip showing slaughterhouse ritual disguised as religious ritual, see the clip at the top of this post.

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Believing church explanations for ossuaries is another cargo cult. Source: The Time Machine, 1960

For evidence of real life versions of ossuaries as bone warehouses, see this post, this post, this post, this post, this post, this post. or see various Stolen History posts.

 

[feralimal]

What a thing to conceive - the idea that the Eloi were real!

And once again it is more plausible than it may first appear, given that it is HG Wells that is the author of 'the Time Machine'. HG Wells was plainly a very well connected insider - on his wiki he is referenced as the "Shakespeare of science fiction" no less. He also wrote numerous books about education, predicted the internet, the start of WW2 (ahead of others), etc, etc.

H. G. Wells - Wikipedia

Re the Time Machine, I find it interesting that Wells projects the Eloi and cannibalist Morlocks into the future.

I also enjoyed reading the wiki page on this book:
The Time Machine - Wikipedia

Here are some quotes from that page's wiki that I especially liked or found relevant to this thread:

The Time Traveller stops in A.D. 802,701, where he meets the Eloi, a society of small, elegant, childlike adults. They live in small communities within large and futuristic yet slowly deteriorating buildings, and adhere to a fruit-based diet. His efforts to communicate with them are hampered by their lack of curiosity or discipline. They appear happy and carefree but fear the dark, and particularly moonless nights.

- at a pinch, are we a bit like this? Ie hampered by our lack of curiousity, childlike? (people in general I mean, not those on SH.net)

Returning to the site where he arrived, the Time Traveller is shocked to find his time machine missing and eventually concludes that it has been dragged by some unknown party into a nearby structure with heavy doors, locked from the inside, which resembles a Sphinx. Luckily, he had removed the machine's levers before leaving it (the time machine being unable to travel through time without them). Later in the dark, he is approached menacingly by the Morlocks, ape-like troglodytes who live in darkness underground and surface only at night. Exploring one of many "wells" that lead to the Morlocks' dwellings, he discovers the machinery and industry that makes the above-ground paradise of the Eloi possible. He alters his theory, speculating that the human race has evolved into two species: the leisured classes have become the ineffectual Eloi, and the downtrodden working classes have become the brutal light-fearing Morlocks.

Deducing that the Morlocks have taken his time machine, he explores the Morlock tunnels, learning that due to a lack of any other means of sustenance, they feed on the Eloi. His revised analysis is that their relationship is not one of lords and servants but of livestock and ranchers.

- the above (esp the last line) speaks for itself!

There's also an explanation of the names Eloi and Morlock:

The name Eloi is the Hebrew plural for Elohim, or lesser gods, in the Old Testament.

Wells's source for the name Morlock is less clear. It may refer to the Canaanite god Moloch associated with child sacrifice. The name Morlock may also be a play on mollocks – what miners might call themselves – or a Scots word for rubbish, or a reference to the Morlacchi community in Dalmatia.

- this also fits in with some conspiracy thinking - that there are some that worship Moloch and Baal.

 

[JohnNada]

Recently read about the Jewish ritual of Pidyon Ha-ben. In this particular ritual, the first born son is placed on a silver platter, then their redemption is purchased from the high priest for 5 shekels. I just found it interesting that the child is presented the same way that a roasted goose would be displayed at a feast, and the parents are given the option of keeping the baby or the 5 shekels. In light of the findings on this thread, it's very interesting that the child is already ready to be "served" if the parents choose the shekels.

 

[Citezenship]

Recently read about the Jewish ritual of Pidyon Ha-ben. In this particular ritual, the first born son is placed on a silver platter, then their redemption is purchased from the high priest for 5 shekels. I just found it interesting that the child is presented the same way that a roasted goose would be displayed at a feast, and the parents are given the option of keeping the baby or the 5 shekels. In light of the findings on this thread, it's very interesting that the child is already ready to be "served" if the parents choose the shekels.

I don't know why but on reading that, my mind thinks that it still happens today, although the physical body is not offered anymore, the soul is sold for the price of a certificate, a bond if you will, mostly unknowingly.

 

[JohnNada]

I don't know why but on reading that, my mind thinks that it still happens today, although the physical body is not offered anymore, the soul is sold for the price of a certificate, a bond if you will, mostly unknowingly.

Funny thing is I stumbled on this practice due to this article.

 

[Citezenship]

Funny thing is I stumbled on this practice due to this article.

Oh dear, what good timing, cough, cough.